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September 26, 2023, 12:31:57 AM
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Ok I know, surely you will comment that, this is not fb or twitter so there is no need for a like button. Yes yes yes... I know that, so please don't comment like that. Ok?

Firstly, I don't know why many members like to leave discussions when the discussion is not finished.

Second, most discussions do not end in shared understanding

Third, I don't like it when the person I'm talking to doesn't return to discussion during a discussion.

Fourth, blaa.. blaa...blaa...blaa...

I think if someone wants to leave the discussion, let the other person know. Unfortunately here there is no way to indicate that someone has read a reply to a comment but is not interested in continuing the discussion, one way that exists is to send merit but merit is not effective for that.

Is it possible that there is a tag (some kind of like button or some kind of merit but not limited) to tell the discussion partner that I have read the reply and am not interested in continuing the discussion. Is that possible?


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September 26, 2023, 12:52:00 AM
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Is it possible that there is a tag (some kind of like button or some kind of merit but not limited) to tell the discussion partner that I have read the reply and am not interested in continuing the discussion. Is that possible?

As you can see there is no button for that if you already read the discussion or the reply and don't want to continue the discussion why not just leave and ignore it instead?

But if you own a thread then you can lock the thread so that no one be able to post in your own thread. You can find this "lock topic" at the bottom left of your own thread.

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September 26, 2023, 12:59:23 AM
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Ok I know, surely you will comment that, this is not fb or twitter so there is no need for a like button. Yes yes yes... I know that, so please don't comment like that. Ok?

Firstly, I don't know why many members like to leave discussions when the discussion is not finished.

Second, most discussions do not end in shared understanding

Merit is the closest thing  to like. Much better imo.

If someone leave there discussion before the end, it is a person who is not worth discussing,  or a topic which is not worth discussion

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September 26, 2023, 01:12:28 AM
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As you can see there is no button for that if you already read the discussion or the reply and don't want to continue the discussion why not just leave and ignore it instead?

Because the discussion gets stuck, and if someone doesn't reply again I don't know if they agree, don't care or haven't read my reply. This is annoying for me, especially when it involves important things. At least if he gives a tag that he read but does not reply it can be concluded that the discussion is over (with or without agreement)

Merit is the closest thing  to like. Much better imo.

Agreed, but numbers are limited and merit has another purpose. Maybe if there was something else (other than merit) it would be good and it could be sent to the post as a tag that the discussion partner has read the reply

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September 26, 2023, 01:56:57 AM
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Ok I know, surely you will comment that, this is not fb or twitter so there is no need for a like button. Yes yes yes... I know that, so please don't comment like that. Ok?

Is it possible that there is a tag (some kind of like button or some kind of merit but not limited) to tell the discussion partner that I have read the reply and am not interested in continuing the discussion. Is that possible?
It is Merit button that is similar to a Like button with many forum members.

Merit system is designed to merit quality posts but it is not used like how it was designed. You can use it as a Like button and liking a post can be because you see it is a good, quality post or just like it (how it is funny, but I don't actually support this liking, meriting way).

My past discussion on it Sendable merit, how to use it? Send it when agree/ disagree with posts?

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September 26, 2023, 02:15:41 AM
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Ok I know, surely you will comment that, this is not fb or twitter so there is no need for a like button. Yes yes yes... I know that, so please don't comment like that. Ok?

Is it possible that there is a tag (some kind of like button or some kind of merit but not limited) to tell the discussion partner that I have read the reply and am not interested in continuing the discussion. Is that possible?
It is Merit button that is similar to a Like button with many forum members.

Merit system is designed to merit quality posts but it is not used like how it was designed. You can use it as a Like button and liking a post can be because you see it is a good, quality post or just like it (how it is funny, but I don't actually support this liking, meriting way).

My past discussion on it Sendable merit, how to use it? Send it when agree/ disagree with posts?

In general I agree with the concept of merit, but merit has a limited number so it cannot be used as a tag that I have read my discussion partner's reply. If there is another one that is similar to merit but has no effect on rank and the number is unlimited, maybe that would be good to signal that I have read the reply and don't want to continue the discussion

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September 26, 2023, 03:33:52 AM
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"I am done talking will check back on this thread in a day or two."

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Button.

Maybe make a design contest.


While I like the op idea in principle you kind of need the:


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button for clarity.


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September 26, 2023, 03:35:29 AM
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It sounds to me like this is not the first time I've seen a discussion about this on the forum. As has been said, merits are sometimes used as likes even though they shouldn't be, and the fact that they are limited I think makes them more valuable. I think it is unlikely that the forum will be encouraged to implement a like button because of what has been said and because it makes us different from so many social networks that do have it.

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I see that's the main point isn't asking for like button, but it's about the end of discussion matter.

Because the discussion gets stuck, and if someone doesn't reply again I don't know if they agree, don't care or haven't read my reply. This is annoying for me, especially when it involves important things. At least if he gives a tag that he read but does not reply it can be concluded that the discussion is over (with or without agreement)
Show me few examples where you think it's important and the user need to reply your post.


No one owe you anything, it's up to the user still want to continue the discussion or not. Even the user is using telegram bot and you keep mention his username, he don't have to reply your post.

Sending a private message isn't a good choice, he can report your message as unsolicited message and you risk a chance to get temporary banned.

Just assume the user have read your post and move on.
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September 26, 2023, 03:48:53 AM
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Well op, it doesn't seem to be a bad idea. But first, not all members would love to use such buttons or neither would they have time to inform you that they are about leaving your discussion. I might no longer want to comment or reply a thread and just exist or ignore that thread.

 There are so many things you sometimes wish it was designed on the forum, but some members prefer the forum, the way it has been design simple and anonymous. Every has a choice. For instance, you might have asked your self why you cannot see the usernames of members who had read your post. It only indicates the total no of persons who viewed it.

What I'm saying is that if these many features were added it still won't change a thing some members won't use them. I really think the merit system is fair and the best for your request. And I will advice you to lock your thread if possible to avoid unessesary replies from other members because you might also not like them.

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September 26, 2023, 03:53:03 AM
Last edit: September 26, 2023, 04:05:06 AM by PytagoraZ
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It sounds to me like this is not the first time I've seen a discussion about this on the forum. As has been said, merits are sometimes used as likes even though they shouldn't be, and the fact that they are limited I think makes them more valuable. I think it is unlikely that the forum will be encouraged to implement a like button because of what has been said and because it makes us different from so many social networks that do have it.

Can you show me a thread that discusses something like this? Actually not a button, maybe something like a merit that is sent but has no effect on rank, maybe something like "karma"


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Like this discussion, someone seems to be accusing me of having certain intentions, but he doesn't want to clear up the discussion. He just disappeared.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457879.msg62874604#msg62874604


Well op, it doesn't seem to be a bad idea. But first, not all members would love to use such buttons or neither would they have time to inform you that they are about leaving your discussion. I might no longer want to comment or reply a thread and just exist or ignore that thread.

Yes, because most discussions are carried out not because of interests and hobbies of discussion but because of campaigns so they don't feel important about replies from other people

And I will advice you to lock your thread if possible to avoid unessesary replies from other members because you might also not like them.

Suggestions are rejected unless you have a strong argument as to why I should lock this thread

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Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. I'm not a native English speaker

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September 26, 2023, 04:14:02 AM
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It sounds to me like this is not the first time I've seen a discussion about this on the forum. As has been said, merits are sometimes used as likes even though they shouldn't be, and the fact that they are limited I think makes them more valuable. I think it is unlikely that the forum will be encouraged to implement a like button because of what has been said and because it makes us different from so many social networks that do have it.

Can you show me a thread that discusses something like this? Actually not a button, maybe something like a merit that is sent but has no effect on rank, maybe something like "karma"


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Like this discussion, someone seems to be accusing me of having certain intentions, but he doesn't want to clear up the discussion. He just disappeared.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457879.msg62874604#msg62874604


Well op, it doesn't seem to be a bad idea. But first, not all members would love to use such buttons or neither would they have time to inform you that they are about leaving your discussion. I might no longer want to comment or reply a thread and just exist or ignore that thread.

Yes, because most discussions are carried out not because of interests and hobbies of discussion but because of campaigns so they don't feel important about replies from other people

And I will advice you to lock your thread if possible to avoid unessesary replies from other members because you might also not like them.

Suggestions are rejected unless you have a strong argument as to why I should lock this thread

~snip~

Sorry I don't understand what you are saying. I'm not a native English speaker


Okay a like button does not cover that you like the thread and are finished with it for now.
A merit button does move cover that you like the thread and you are finished with it for now.

A button that read  ( "I am done talking will check back on this thread in a day or two." )

works much better.



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The problems listed above are not related to like (or heart) button deficiencies but a side effect of campaigns and because people posting in this dont always follow up the replies and even if sometimes they try to, they rarely get a reply. Like If I think of a good reply and write it, after a couple of days I would come back to see what others may have opined, that is very less in discussion sections.

Merit is something that bridges this but getting a post to be seen by a merit source is a matter of luck and we dont want the forum to become a social media much like what today telegram and whatsapp have also become.

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Can you show me a thread that discusses something like this? Actually not a button, maybe something like a merit that is sent but has no effect on rank, maybe something like "karma"
This one Why are "Likes" turned off in this forum?

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Like this discussion, someone seems to be accusing me of having certain intentions, but he doesn't want to clear up the discussion. He just disappeared.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457879.msg62874604#msg62874604
I'm not really in depth to understand about this case.

According to other people posts, it seems he lack of evidence. My assumption he currently lose an argument.

The good thing is most people think you're not wrong, what I mean is even someone wrongly accused you, but majority of people stand with you, you don't have to think about it anymore because you're safe.
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September 26, 2023, 04:23:19 AM
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Okay a like button does not cover that you like the thread and are finished with it for now.
A merit button does move cover that you like the thread and you are finished with it for now.

A button that read  ( "I am done talking will check back on this thread in a day or two." )

works much better.


The initials would be

I.a.d.t.w.c.b.o.t.t.i.a.d.o.t


We have some artists that could make it look nice.

Yes, I agree. But with the tag, I know that the person I'm talking to has read it. If he doesn't reply it means he really wants that, if he comes back after a few days (but I'm not sure many do this) it's better than no further discussion

Yes, maybe your idea is good... but few people use that method, and there are too many words " I.a.d.t.w.c.b.o.t.t.i.a.d.o.t" would probably make it look like spam

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It seems like the discussion in the thread didn't go well because the OP didn't reply to other members' comments

I don't want to discuss that. But that's one example that some discussions require feedback or at least I know that the person I'm talking to has read my argument

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Yes, most of the time I use merit to leave the discussion, but if I don't like the discussion, I simply ignore it.

Yes, I would also prefer to have a button to express emotions similar to Facebook, why not, this is a forum for exchanging opinions, dialogue, and interaction are required and there is nothing wrong with that having expressive buttons that shorten a lot of talk. But I expect that it is difficult with the current version of the forum. I do not know if this system can be added with the current version, so we may need to develop the entire forum to add this button.

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September 26, 2023, 04:51:44 AM
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Firstly, I don't know why many members like to leave discussions when the discussion is not finished.
- Different time zones. Someone quoting your reply (just posted) may have been following the topic for a long time, while you are just starting out.
- There are no restrictions on login duration, people are free to stay or leave the discussion as they wish.

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Second, most discussions do not end in shared understanding
Someone usually posts according to their own understanding in the first reply, if it turns out to be out of their understanding then they won't come back. From this point on, you have to stop expecting other replies from the same people so that the discussion doesn't go out of context. And this is actually better.

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Third, I don't like it when the person I'm talking to doesn't return to discussion during a discussion.
Ignore them henceforth.

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September 26, 2023, 05:39:58 AM
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If someone doesn't reply to a duscussion that requires one from them after reading it, they will likely not use a face, or karma or like button to indicate that they've read it. You should not expect that finality in discussions from other members as it wasn't factored in to the initial forum design.
The default notifications system is non existent with majority of members not checking their email to know who quoted them, for this reason we have telegram created by community members to help with the flow of communication.

Your suggestion is not a bad one at all and will help a little in offering closure to those who participated in discussions, but as with many suggestions here, will likely not get implemented. I'm not even sure if it's possible of SMF.

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September 26, 2023, 07:06:18 AM
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Because the discussion gets stuck, and if someone doesn't reply again I don't know if they agree, don't care or haven't read my reply. This is annoying for me, especially when it involves important things. At least if he gives a tag that he read but does not reply it can be concluded that the discussion is over (with or without agreement)

If the person does this it is because they really want to ignore the other user of that discussion.

That's why I sometimes wonder how some users get into debates, to the point of getting irritated with each other, when all they had to do was stop posting 3 or 4 posts ago. There is usually a point in the debate where it is clear that opinions will not change on both sides. A person knew, knows when it arises, and must leave. By doing this, you will be able to stay calm, stay on good terms with everyone and avoid arguments that leave you looking bad to other readers (whether you are right or not).

Remember this is an online forum. 99.9% of the people we talk to, we will never meet in person. Why create drama!?

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September 26, 2023, 09:07:32 AM
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First this can only be applicable to those who uses telegram notification bot, if they involved themselves in a serious discussion and they are being quoted the bots easily notify them and they comes back to the discussion although they might read and not reply to the discussion is either their suggestion is not valuable or they have given out their points and never wanted to continue spamming the thread so they give up without any further noticed. Some could reply maybe when they feels exhausted with the said topic or discussion they won't like to respond again, while those who created topic and never goes back to follow up their post is either not using bots and they don't know if people are actually following up his or her topic.

Watch the numbers of people quickly responding to specific topic are using bots meaning whenever a topic is being created or are being mentioned they got notified for that and they are always active on the board. For a "like" button well i doubt if that will be possible because all platform has there way of builts so you won't expects this platform to looks like other popular platform where you are more familiar with and actually merits has already replaced the "like" options so i don't think if that could be possibly to be achieved or goes into implementation. So, the forum gives you free access to reply to any post or not but if attention is needed on that specific topic or thread then such person has to come back to clear the air of their attentions.

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