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September 28, 2023, 12:31:52 AM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!

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September 28, 2023, 12:35:13 AM
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It is only the person that gave you the negative trust that can remove it. Only lovesmayfamilis can remove it. People are against the use of AI on this forum.

This thread does not belong to meta. Meta is about what is about this forum. This thread is not about this forum and it is not about what is about this forum, it is about you. Move it to reputation board.

To move it to reputation board, you will see move topic at the low left side of this thread.

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September 28, 2023, 12:48:24 AM
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You were given red trust because you never took the first warning seriously. The user who red-tagged you dropped a neutral tag on you, first warning you and the general public of your involvement in using CHATBOT to generate text and replies for you.

Instead of using your brain, you allowed the bot to do the work for you, trying to prove to yourself that you are lazy. You can restrain from what made you get those red tags and see if the user's judgement can change in the future, but I doubt if your type will even want to make a correction.

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September 28, 2023, 12:52:22 AM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!
Transfer your topic on Reputation section.

Reputation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=129.0

Why are you getting Red trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456516.msg62673468#msg62673468

You have been warned about AI before but you have not heeded that warning and you have been penalized with negative trust.
You must refrain from using ChatGPT/AI when writing posts on Bitcoin forums, even though you have once received a warning and again used AI on the forum, which you absolutely should not have done.

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September 28, 2023, 01:03:37 AM
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Bitcointalk is the forum to discuss own idea, copying from other source or using other tools to create post doesn't make sense here. copying from other sources is strictly prohibited and will result in permanent banned while there is no specific rules made for AI but it's still considered spam.

You were given chance in form of neutrel tag with reference. You should learn that time but after continue use of AI you deserve negative. You can check below link for you answer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456516.msg62673468#msg62673468


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September 28, 2023, 04:06:30 AM
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In addition to blatantly using ChatGPT to further your shitposting habits (and all your posts are shitposts), you appear to be part of a larger account farm:



The earliest 3 transactions are all one minute apart... You're gonna tell me you were simply selling a microscopic amount of BNB to this address and just happened to make your transaction between two other sellers that are one minute apart?

6. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program
immediately and all your accounts will be banned permanently. Brand new accounts are not allowed to join.

#Proof of registration
Forum Username: Promise33
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3369470
Telegram Username: @PromiseKhan33
Participate Campaign: Twitter, Telegram, Article, Translator
BSC Wallet Address: 0xc43E5f082632df27D93177D72014D989C14BaDAb

##PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION##
Bitcointalk Username: Jk Sing
Bitcointalk Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3271033
Telegram Username: @Jksing3
Participate Campaign: Twitter, Telegram, Video, Translation
Wallet Address: 0x0c009BCC796c29d5817A0f92fE9363bF5aadc882

#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Starrc84
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2867790
Telegram Username: @Starrc84
Participated Campaigns: Twitter & Telegram
BSC Wallet Address: 0x8A895D9220F2072d025B55cACDFf61BEb6AF266c

#PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION#
Forum Username: tokyohd
Forum Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3334640
Telegram Username: @Tokyohd3
Participate Campaign: Twitter & Telegram
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You appear to have several more alts, as well. I can go find them and connect them if you'd like.

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September 28, 2023, 04:53:16 AM
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I trust lovesmayfamilis although in this case I think the red tag is unnecessary. There is no trading risk and it adds nothing to the neutral tag. Nobody is going to hire OP for a signature campaign if he just copypaste from ChatGPT. What happens is that, as it happens most of the time in these cases, this habit is just the tip of the iceberg and nutildah has already discovered that the OP is most likely part of an account farm.

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September 28, 2023, 05:24:30 AM
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I trust lovesmayfamilis although in this case I think the red tag is unnecessary. There is no trading risk and it adds nothing to the neutral tag. Nobody is going to hire OP for a signature campaign if he just copypaste from ChatGPT. What happens is that, as it happens most of the time in these cases, this habit is just the tip of the iceberg and nutildah has already discovered that the OP is most likely part of an account farm.

You're right. I put a neutral tag, but this user did not react to it. In addition to the fact that I showed his posts on the topic of the use of AI, I regularly sent reports to the moderators.
Recently I came across his account again and saw that he was still rewriting texts on the forum that did not belong to him. If you do not react to such behavior, then you tacitly agree that AI is allowed here. If his posts with AI were isolated cases, perhaps one could turn a blind eye, but this is not the case.
All deleted posts from this user are the most common plagiarism from AI.
Well, in addition, I received a completely unfriendly letter from him, after which, alas, it will be impossible to remove the negative label from him.





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September 28, 2023, 05:49:11 AM
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I trust lovesmayfamilis although in this case I think the red tag is unnecessary. There is no trading risk and it adds nothing to the neutral tag.

I agree with you -- actmyname set the precedent for dealing with spammers using neutral trust only and its been fairly effective. I daresay it is the neutral trust most often taken into consideration by bounty managers, but don't really know. Ideally moderation should remove spam when reported; a lot of the time it is.

Nobody is going to hire OP for a signature campaign if he just copypaste from ChatGPT. What happens is that, as it happens most of the time in these cases, this habit is just the tip of the iceberg and nutildah has already discovered that the OP is most likely part of an account farm.

He worked hard to get those 18 merits so he really doesn't want to lose this account.

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September 28, 2023, 08:15:07 AM
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Sometimes just don't understand why most people keep using tools or copy and paste content from elsewhere in order to impress people in the forum for being a creative and quality poster, why not they just keep replying post and reading topics in the forum to gain more knowledge maybe from their knowledge gain here they can put them together to start creating topics. But all of the sudden you could see a low rank member or a beginner today would come to copy post and create topic to start teaching people how the forum works, I am like is this for real? Instead of learning from people here they turned to teach people while they still have long ways to go.

All deleted posts from this user are the most common plagiarism from AI.
Well, in addition, I received a completely unfriendly letter from him, after which, alas, it will be impossible to remove the negative label from him.

Does op actually thinks of his reputation?
Because from what I saw on the profile he seems not to care after your several warning even as that he didn't stops from doing that meaning he doesn't care about his profile being tag or not.

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September 28, 2023, 08:28:28 AM
Last edit: September 28, 2023, 08:39:51 AM by lovesmayfamilis
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I trust lovesmayfamilis although in this case I think the red tag is unnecessary. There is no trading risk and it adds nothing to the neutral tag.

I agree with you -- actmyname set the precedent for dealing with spammers using neutral trust only and its been fairly effective. I daresay it is the neutral trust most often taken into consideration by bounty managers, but don't really know. Ideally moderation should remove spam when reported; a lot of the time it is.

He worked hard to get those 18 merits so he really doesn't want to lose this account.

I decided to learn more about this account. And why am I not surprised that now the owner of this profile is a person from the Bengal local board?
But I am more than sure that he is not the real owner of the account. Check out his posts. It varies greatly. The first owner speaks fluent English and is Japanese. What does his nickname actually say.

I'm from Japan and i speak English if the job available let me know.

I can't access from Japan.  
Before I used to access and had account there
So what to do now ?

But on September 9, 2021, at 2:19:34 AM, the password was changed, and we already see registration for the bounty.
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=tokyohd
#PROOF OF AUTHENTICATION#
Forum Username: tokyohd
Forum Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3334640
Telegram Username: @tokyohd
Participate Campaign: Signature & Telegram
ERC 20 Wallet Address: 0xb390c1480746060E5A0a540ef5Fc47599aB637a5

Although the previous owner had nothing like this with the bounty, Moreover, there is a change in language.

নতুন ইউজার হিসেবে আপনাকে এই ফোরামে স্বাগতম। আসলে ক্রিপ্টোতে এগিয়ে যেতে হলে আপনাকে অবশ্যই ক্রিপ্টো সম্পর্কে আরো ভালো জানার চেষ্টা করতে হবে। আর এই ফোরামে অনেক প্রশ্ন - উত্তর এবং সিনিয়র ভাইদের অনেক ভালো শিক্ষামূলক পোস্ট রয়েছে।
তাই আমি মনে করছি, আপনার এই ফোরামে প্রচুর পরিমান সময় দেওয়া উচিত তাহলেই ক্রিপ্টো সম্পর্কে জানতে পারবেন। আর এটা বন্ধুন্তপূর্ণ ফোরাম হেল্প চাইলেও পাবেন কোন সমস্যা নেই।  

He begins to actively participate in the Bengali section and even visits another locale to borrow some money.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357357.msg57821942#msg57821942

After he is asked whether this is legal, he rather harshly rejects the questioner.

একজন মেম্বার কি দুইটা লোকাল বোর্ডে পোস্ট করতে পারবেন? এ বিষয়ে কেউ জানলে একটু শেয়ার করবেন। আমাদের একজন ভাই @tokyohd দুইটা লোকাল বোর্ডে পোস্ট করেছেন বাংলাদেশ এবং আরবি। এটা কি ঠিক হয়েছে?
পোস্ট লিংক https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357357.msg57821942#msg57821942

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ধন্যবাদ ভাই, ফোরামের রুলস সম্পর্কে সতর্ক করার জন্য। কিন্তু আমার মনে হচ্ছে আমাকে নিয়ে আপনি একটু বেশিই চিন্তিত। আরে ভাই সবাই সব বিষয়ে অভিজ্ঞ নয়। সিনিয়র দের যে ভুল হবে না এমন তো নয়। কারো ভুল হলে সেটা নিয়ে উপহাস না করে বুঝিয়ে দেওয়ার চেষ্টা করুন, তাতেই ফোরামের পরিবেষ সুন্দর থাকবে। অভিজ্ঞ বলে নিজেকে অহংকারী করে তোলা উচিত নয়। আর আমি যতটা জেনেছি, আপনি ভাষা জানলে যে কোন লোকাল বোর্ডেই আলোচনা করতে পারেন। এটি সবার জন্য উন্মুক্ত।  

Further, having alternative accounts in his arsenal, he mixes up the submission of the report, and we see his involvement in another account.


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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5468365.msg62912682#msg62912682
 I didn't have the strength to read his posts further, but I think that everything that has accumulated for this account rightly suggests that he cannot be trusted.

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September 28, 2023, 09:50:03 AM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!

You did something wrong and got a neutral tag from one person. You continued the same and got a negative tag. You could say that you've learned a lesson, then apologize and ask lovesmayfamilis how you can deserve removing your red tag. But you decided to highlight what you've done by this topic and got additional tag from nutildah for using alt accounts. Well, I think one more tag for AI usage will be good. And maybe you'll get even more tags when others will dig deeper in your case.

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September 28, 2023, 12:57:05 PM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!
You have such a limited vocabulary when it doesn't come from a chat spam bot! You should have been banned for plagiarism a long time ago.

All deleted posts from this user are the most common plagiarism from AI.
I don't get why Mods don't ban this shitposter. Plagiarism isn't allowed, and all his posts are "low effort".

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September 28, 2023, 01:50:33 PM
Last edit: September 28, 2023, 02:57:32 PM by BabyBandit
 #14

To be honest, you got a second chance by lovesmayfamilis to change your behavior (neutral trust), many users don't even get a second chance, but you did. So you should be thankful and change your behavior instead of continue to break the rules. This is actually a excellent example of how the trust system should be used in a good way, at least what I think.

Good job lovesmayfamilis.

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September 28, 2023, 03:08:50 PM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!

Maybe you should first considers the reason why you were given the tag than fighting for removal, you cannot be red tagged without a cause i hope you know that, whenever you do something that is not right, you have the benefits of doubt and it receives a neutral tag but when you show a careless attitude or persits then it may turn to negative, especially when it has to do with reputation or scam that you violated the norms, but to my own surprise, i see that you already had about 3 more neutral tags which call for more observation about you and not the tags or who dish them to you.

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September 28, 2023, 03:40:02 PM
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Why red trust me!  Please withdraw my red trust!

Honestly speaking, consider how much effort you put into posting on this forum, the only answer you deserve is the following one (generated by ChapGpt)  Wink

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I don't have access to information about specific trust ratings or actions taken on trust within any particular platform or community. Trust ratings and actions like these are typically managed by specific websites, forums, or online communities, and I don't have the ability to directly interact with those systems.

If you have a concern or issue related to a trust rating on a specific platform, I would recommend reaching out to the moderators or administrators of that platform for assistance. They should be able to provide guidance on how to address your request to withdraw or modify a trust rating.


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Well, I'm starting to get a little bit fed up, and after a while of moderation and reflection on my supposed aggressiveness when tagging, and in light of what has been exposed in this thread, I have also left a negative tag for the OP.

It's just that we have already seen this story more times in this section: someone opens a thread complaining about a tag, sometimes even a neutral one, and we end up discovering that he bought the account and/or is part of a farm and/or plagiarized and/or exchanged merits with his alts, etc.

I decided to learn more about this account. And why am I not surprised that now the owner of this profile is a person from the Bengal local board?
But I am more than sure that he is not the real owner of the account. Check out his posts. It varies greatly. The first owner speaks fluent English and is Japanese...

Now I hope that the OP does not come out saying that the account was given to him by his brother who lives in Japan, we have already seen that story, and I also hope that we do not reopen a debate about whether people should be tagged for having an account that they did not create, we have also seen that story in the section. I mean, I don't mind the talk about it, but I hope that if the debate is reopened it's not because the OP is now telling us a sobbing story that contains his brother living in Japan and giving him the account.

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September 28, 2023, 08:00:06 PM
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I don't get why Mods don't ban this shitposter. Plagiarism isn't allowed, and all his posts are "low effort".

For a Plagiarism ban, mods need a text book copy & paste and since this guy is not copy-pasting anything but using a modern way of Plagiarism, that is writing posts with the help of Artificial Intelligence.

You appear to have several more alts, as well. I can go find them and connect them if you'd like.

He may not respond now as he would not like further investigations  Cool
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OP before you start crying and asking why the red tag have you ever asked yourself if what you're doing is even nice to start with? Like you're messing up and expect other members to be on your side, no way and know one thing, before you open a thread asking for support or what ever just know that you still have to come out clean and to even defend yourself.
Being an account farmer and also copying and pasting is something you know very well is not tolerated in this Forum and you know the penalty, upon that you didn't make any effort to even come out to defend yourself which means all accusations are true.


In addition to blatantly using ChatGPT to further your shitposting habits (and all your posts are shitposts), you appear to be part of a larger account farm:



The earliest 3 transactions are all one minute apart... You're gonna tell me you were simply selling a microscopic amount of BNB to this address and just happened to make your transaction between two other sellers that are one minute apart?

6. Using multiple accounts, cheating and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program
immediately and all your accounts will be banned permanently. Brand new accounts are not allowed to join.

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You appear to have several more alts, as well. I can go find them and connect them if you'd like.

OP you really have so many alts, @nutildah got all those alts that they're all related to you so you still have time to defend yourself if you think @nutildah falsely accused you, come on and say something at least that's why you opened this thread, to let we all know you're innocent.











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September 28, 2023, 10:57:02 PM
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You were given red trust because you never took the first warning seriously. The user who red-tagged you dropped a neutral tag on you, first warning you and the general public of your involvement in using CHATBOT to generate text and replies for you.
Wow, I think this is the first time I've seen red trust handed out for the use of AI to create whatever it is OP created.  

And I have to say: Well done to the members who tagged this unwanted, spamming, cheating shitbag.  While the use of red trust for such a purpose reminds me of a time prior to the merit system when shitposters were getting doses of paint that made their whole wretched families squirm and eventually became frowned upon, you'll never see me complaining about it.

Really, what other way is there to deal with the likes of OP?  If Theymos doesn't raise a stink I say keep at it!  Now I'll have to click on some links to figure out what actually happened.  I knew AI was going to hit this forum hard, but I'm glad there are some members here on the lookout for the shady shit that's obviously already going full-force.

Edit: Ah, I see nutildah summarized it quite nicely above.  Reading is fundamental, kids.

I trust lovesmayfamilis although in this case I think the red tag is unnecessary. There is no trading risk and it adds nothing to the neutral tag.
Going to have to disagree with you there (which I already did with my above post).  Sometimes you have to use the only effective tools available to combat crap like this, and if our boss doesn't like it he can come up with a more creative solution.  Like I said, it's just like we're back in 2015-17.

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