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April 06, 2024, 07:25:31 PM
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I compared income from my main job and from the gambling. The result told me that the job brings me more money for the same time. But the same time my profit from the gambling was higher than medium salary in my country, so it can be the main income.
Today i bet when i have free time, sometimes for emotions, mostly for some profit and have enough time for family and all my hobbies.

Well, reaching that Balance is worthy of admiration, the truth is I'm very happy and I hope it continues like this always and Profits , when you have confidence like that I think it's when you say that you can earn money while doing what you like the most, and that It is something that makes you Happy as a person, I would also like to reach that level, but as I see the Experience and the tricks , Everything also as luck influences a lot, they Could say that to reach that level a lot would have to happen time, what happens is that sometimes the responsibilities, the expenses, all of that exposes anyone to limiting themselves from doing things, always at every moment we are people who can do what we set out to do, but it is difficult, knowing that Casinos are very Complicated.
Of course there is some luck. Without it i could got win rate 100%. But it is sports and no one can guarantee you that one team win. I think that no one could supposed that Bayern could lost today, or that Man United could got 2 goals against them after 10 added minutes. But my win rate allows me to get profit.
PS. Today was nice day, i`ve catched 2 matches. Čukarički U19 with odd 3.2 and Chiangmai United with the odd 9(catched when the score was 0-1). I`ve lost 3 bets, but the result really nice.


I never said that it is easy. It is really difficult to get nice profit from gambling. And it is like a job. You mustn`t have emotions, you must wake up several times per night, you must be ready to bet every moment of your life. Several times i went to buy bread with a notebook. And only in such a way you can become successful.
I`m good specialist, so my salary is high enough, that`s why i made such choice. But if someone don`t get big money from the job, he can try to get it from gambling. The main problem is that the main part of gamblers think that it is easy money - look at the match and win. No! It doesn`t works so. It is the way to lose all your money and think that you isn`t lucky enough.
Gambling was never meant to be getting money or profits with it in the first place because once you do have this kind of approach then you are just that basically putting up yourself into such situation that you would really be that desperate
on which we know that this is really that something very wrong approach to have towards it. Making money no matter what method or path you would be taking is never been simple.Yes, it could really be acquired through work or through gamble or through investment but you would really be needing to work at least but in speaking about leisure and entertainment thing then it is really still included and really that having the probability.
It is really just that there are people who are really that too desperate when it comes to those kind of treating up on things.

As for business whether gambling or other industries then of course its a money game for those owners. They do really take advantage into those people who are really that seeking for fun and entertainment
or even into those brokers or platforms that offers services on which snipping out money on the service that they do gave to people but well business is business on which generation of revenue
would really be their outmost responsibility on which it is really that a common approach thing.
I only can repeat. If you can`t do something - it doesn`t means that it is impossible. I don`t cares for what purposes gambling was created. I get money from it. I don`t think that Instagram was created for marketing and promotions, but today it is an industry with huge money.





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April 07, 2024, 11:44:55 PM
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I compared income from my main job and from the gambling. The result told me that the job brings me more money for the same time. But the same time my profit from the gambling was higher than medium salary in my country, so it can be the main income.
Today i bet when i have free time, sometimes for emotions, mostly for some profit and have enough time for family and all my hobbies.
And you think it would be easy to solely depend on casinos for a living? It is always good and deceptive in our thoughts, especially when the person has a primary job, but the moment the person stops that job for gambling, the issue starts and it's going to be a serious problem with time. The psychology at which you are gambling when you are still falling back at your primary job as the main source of income is not the same as you would be gambling when it is no more, that's why it is not the smartest decision to be gambling for a living without having anything to fall back at. This is especially true when you are a family man and someone who has extended dependents. It will be a whole lot of headaches at that time when there are pressing financial needs where gambling will be your last resort. Depending on gambling in such a situation will only cause desperation and frustration and you will likely lose your money.

Besides, Bravo! You are doing well in gambling. For someone to be earning so hugely in gambling to the extent that the mean earning of the country is still lower than it, that is convenient. But I will never advise anyone towards it. I also read your post a while ago that you reduced your gambling pace just because of your job. That is a very good idea, the job that pays you more and gives you the rest of mind as the reward of your work is best to be taken seriously. Just continue to bet in your free time the way you do it, it is the best and shows you are wise. Don't be tempted because if you can gamble with higher amounts and your gambling results are as good as you claimed, then you may still earn more than your present status. But don't just think it.
I never said that it is easy. It is really difficult to get nice profit from gambling. And it is like a job. You mustn`t have emotions, you must wake up several times per night, you must be ready to bet every moment of your life. Several times i went to buy bread with a notebook. And only in such a way you can become successful.
I`m good specialist, so my salary is high enough, that`s why i made such choice. But if someone don`t get big money from the job, he can try to get it from gambling. The main problem is that the main part of gamblers think that it is easy money - look at the match and win. No! It doesn`t works so. It is the way to lose all your money and think that you isn`t lucky enough.
Let's be honest is there a certain field or profession in this world where people will make an end means easily?
I don't think there's any, even in the cryptocurrency that is filled with diverse opportunities you have to dedicate some hours of your sleep to research, reading, or skill improvement if you want to be at the edge of your game.
Although, online crypto casinos have made things easy but I consider gambling to be more difficult than a job cause we're talking about something that has made some people millionaires and has easily ruined the lives of some people.

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April 08, 2024, 09:00:19 AM
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I never said that it is easy. It is really difficult to get nice profit from gambling. And it is like a job. You mustn`t have emotions, you must wake up several times per night, you must be ready to bet every moment of your life. Several times i went to buy bread with a notebook. And only in such a way you can become successful.
I`m good specialist, so my salary is high enough, that`s why i made such choice. But if someone don`t get big money from the job, he can try to get it from gambling. The main problem is that the main part of gamblers think that it is easy money - look at the match and win. No! It doesn`t works so. It is the way to lose all your money and think that you isn`t lucky enough.
I quite understand you, but what I still do not get is how gambling is like a job as I boldened above in your reply. "Emotion" aside, I would like you to elaborate on that because I view them differently, as gambling is a mere activity of betting that should be for the extra daily activity either for the fun or for the money. And even if gambling should be engaged for the money, it should still be for the passive income and not for the main income, this is to avoid financial issues. Relying on gambling alone is even more dangerous, which is a strong call for emotion and will in turn ruin the gambler.

But for you to call it something synonymous with a job and make us believe that if your main job is not paying so high, you would have opted for gambling is what I still do not understand, and perhaps, will not agree to that as well. Gambling is not easy my friend, it is not what I will ever agree to for anyone to do and believe it will feed himself, the family members and the dependents easily. This will only cut the expectation of the person short and cause desperation, and this will lead to frustration over time and also grow to depression if care is not taken. It is easier to say than practice, and I hope you will not try this ever.

By the way, which aspect of gambling are you playing that gives you the high winning rates that encourage you this much?
It is sport betting. Low leagues mostly, mostly live. You don`t watch the match, you don`t cares the result, you just analyze matches and searching nice odds. Sometimes if you don`t sure - look statistics or translation to understand how they plays. You calculate your bets, profits and loses. Every week you calculate the result and decide to increase or decrease bet. All bets are the same - the same sums for every match. Every month you calculate your money and decide what sum to withdraw. Permanently search new bookies, compare odds to get the best result, search matches.


I compared income from my main job and from the gambling. The result told me that the job brings me more money for the same time. But the same time my profit from the gambling was higher than medium salary in my country, so it can be the main income.
Today i bet when i have free time, sometimes for emotions, mostly for some profit and have enough time for family and all my hobbies.
Gambling can indeed pay us much more than we usually earn from our day jobs, but this does not mean that gambling is more reliable than our day jobs, because when it comes to making money from gambling, there is absolutely no guarantee, and the truth actually is that, you may sometimes, find yourself losing money when you least expect it, and if money being lost to gambling is one you weren't prepared to lose, then that actually becomes the beginning of some like of problem.

Day jobs may pay less than we usually win from gambling, but day jobs are still more reliable than gambling, for he who is working have a guarantee that by the end of the month, he or she is gonna get paid his or her salary for that month, this mindset creates some kind of financial security, for when you know that you are getting some funds as a certain period in time, you don't panic but just wait for the time.
But in gambling, there are no guarantees, a gambler can luckily win let's say, $10,000 today, and it will take years of gambling daily for him or her to win such amount of money again, while the reverse may also be the case.

In conclusion, gambling is perfect as a side activity, but never should we leave our day job or business to focus on gambling as our main source of income.
In such a way we wouldn`t see any businessmen - it is to dangerous and you don`t know will you win or lose. The best way is to get some stable salary. It is ok, but there are other ways to get money. For me - gambling is one of them. Possible, when i`ll be old enough, i`ll be only in gambling, without any other kinds of job.


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April 08, 2024, 09:27:48 AM
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Let's be honest is there a certain field or profession in this world where people will make an end means easily?
I don't think there's any, even in the cryptocurrency that is filled with diverse opportunities you have to dedicate some hours of your sleep to research, reading, or skill improvement if you want to be at the edge of your game.
Although, online crypto casinos have made things easy but I consider gambling to be more difficult than a job cause we're talking about something that has made some people millionaires and has easily ruined the lives of some people.

Indeed, if you want to earn money it's better to resort to some highly paid job than to try to earn it through gambling. I wouldn't say that gambling is "more difficult", bur more risky that's for sure. As for the crypto trading, it's more like gambling to me, to be honest. Despite many hours spent on researching you still have a good chance of losing it all.

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April 08, 2024, 09:39:08 AM
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You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?

Of course brokers are making money on every trade you make. That’s their business. If they were gambling on trades to make money, then it would be safe to assume that at some point they would lose big possibly effecting the balances of their customers. It’s easier to take a small piece of all the action then to try and gamble for a bigger piece. That benefits nobody.
Yeah definitely, 
Brokers make their  profit from our market executions and its  fine to me I don't  dispute it as they need to keep their company running  and get some profits but truly they take it far sometimes instead of making  it minimal  so I wouldn't support  them either
 
Well, I would just say that business is business, and you never can know what it takes, how hard it is to maintain a high level of reputation and professionalism as a broker until you become you, how about the expenses involved, like the tax to the government and renewal of operating licenses, plus other cost of keeping the market running well and highly secure from attacks and hackers, and also you think about payment of salaries to the workers who work day and night or make sure the company is processing nicely, all of this plus other miscellaneous expenses are huge, and 100 percent of the money for all of this must come from the company's revenue, and how do they generate enough revenue to cover for all of this expenses if they don't make sure they are making the maximum profit from their users?

This is just normal thing with every businesses ans or service in every part of the world and in the business world, companies and or business/services that cost way more to run and maintain will always charge their customers more in fees, to enable them make enough profit to keep the business/service running, while those that do not cost as much to run and maintain will charge their customers lesser in fees and so on.

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April 08, 2024, 09:42:16 AM
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I compared income from my main job and from the gambling. The result told me that the job brings me more money for the same time. But the same time my profit from the gambling was higher than medium salary in my country, so it can be the main income.
Today i bet when i have free time, sometimes for emotions, mostly for some profit and have enough time for family and all my hobbies.
And you think it would be easy to solely depend on casinos for a living? It is always good and deceptive in our thoughts, especially when the person has a primary job, but the moment the person stops that job for gambling, the issue starts and it's going to be a serious problem with time. The psychology at which you are gambling when you are still falling back at your primary job as the main source of income is not the same as you would be gambling when it is no more, that's why it is not the smartest decision to be gambling for a living without having anything to fall back at. This is especially true when you are a family man and someone who has extended dependents. It will be a whole lot of headaches at that time when there are pressing financial needs where gambling will be your last resort. Depending on gambling in such a situation will only cause desperation and frustration and you will likely lose your money.

Besides, Bravo! You are doing well in gambling. For someone to be earning so hugely in gambling to the extent that the mean earning of the country is still lower than it, that is convenient. But I will never advise anyone towards it. I also read your post a while ago that you reduced your gambling pace just because of your job. That is a very good idea, the job that pays you more and gives you the rest of mind as the reward of your work is best to be taken seriously. Just continue to bet in your free time the way you do it, it is the best and shows you are wise. Don't be tempted because if you can gamble with higher amounts and your gambling results are as good as you claimed, then you may still earn more than your present status. But don't just think it.
I never said that it is easy. It is really difficult to get nice profit from gambling. And it is like a job. You mustn`t have emotions, you must wake up several times per night, you must be ready to bet every moment of your life. Several times i went to buy bread with a notebook. And only in such a way you can become successful.
I`m good specialist, so my salary is high enough, that`s why i made such choice. But if someone don`t get big money from the job, he can try to get it from gambling. The main problem is that the main part of gamblers think that it is easy money - look at the match and win. No! It doesn`t works so. It is the way to lose all your money and think that you isn`t lucky enough.
Let's be honest is there a certain field or profession in this world where people will make an end means easily?
I don't think there's any, even in the cryptocurrency that is filled with diverse opportunities you have to dedicate some hours of your sleep to research, reading, or skill improvement if you want to be at the edge of your game.
Although, online crypto casinos have made things easy but I consider gambling to be more difficult than a job cause we're talking about something that has made some people millionaires and has easily ruined the lives of some people.
I continue to be neutral here so that I don't become too wise in my own understanding. This is partly because I want @mak013 to furnish me with that gambling option and style used that is so precious to the point that one could rely solely on it. I know that there is no way there will not be career gamblers, but still, they will have so many challenges to face as well that will make them get discouraged at times to the point of dissuading people from relying on gambling. If not, a lot of people would be relying on it now with trackable success records, but the truth is that it is never easy and will never be easy no matter how advanced we could be, the house is not foolish, they will always have that edge to keep the business running.

Fine, there could be better ways, but I believe it can't be as good as it is being propagated because we all know gambling, it is very risky with no specific approach to certainly win it. Even the lucky ones today may be unlucky for the next many weeks, if not months, so it can't be what we should be comfortable with calling our sole earning means. If we do not care about ourselves to have decided on that, we should care about those who are depending on us for daily bread.

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April 08, 2024, 09:49:24 AM
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Well, I would just say that business is business, and you never can know what it takes, how hard it is to maintain a high level of reputation and professionalism as a broker until you become you, how about the expenses involved, like the tax to the government and renewal of operating licenses, plus other cost of keeping the market running well and highly secure from attacks and hackers, and also you think about payment of salaries to the workers who work day and night or make sure the company is processing nicely, all of this plus other miscellaneous expenses are huge, and 100 percent of the money for all of this must come from the company's revenue, and how do they generate enough revenue to cover for all of this expenses if they don't make sure they are making the maximum profit from their users?

This is just normal thing with every businesses ans or service in every part of the world and in the business world, companies and or business/services that cost way more to run and maintain will always charge their customers more in fees, to enable them make enough profit to keep the business/service running, while those that do not cost as much to run and maintain will charge their customers lesser in fees and so on.

Well as I've  said in my previous  post, I know they have to key their company running  so they need to get enough profit but that's  does not not mean exploiting  from almost every features , even to deposit  we pay  some percentage  if its crypto which is even higher sometimes  than the fee being  paid for making  transactions from individual  wallets.
They make profit almost on everything  leaving  the traders with little to trade with , although not all brokers are into these.
Some even take it to the extent of scamming traders by an unexpected  shutdown  of their compering  , leaving with all traders money into the dark without question.

Every company pays bills on the course of running their company while some are being  faithful  and  earning profits, some still exploits their  customers



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Let's be honest is there a certain field or profession in this world where people will make an end means easily?
I don't think there's any, even in the cryptocurrency that is filled with diverse opportunities you have to dedicate some hours of your sleep to research, reading, or skill improvement if you want to be at the edge of your game.
Although, online crypto casinos have made things easy but I consider gambling to be more difficult than a job cause we're talking about something that has made some people millionaires and has easily ruined the lives of some people.

Indeed, if you want to earn money it's better to resort to some highly paid job than to try to earn it through gambling. I wouldn't say that gambling is "more difficult", bur more risky that's for sure. As for the crypto trading, it's more like gambling to me, to be honest. Despite many hours spent on researching you still have a good chance of losing it all.
Gambling was never meant for making income or having that a replacement for a job for you to earn money. It is really just that for the sake of entertainment and there's no way that it would really be able to
for someone to make it as a sustainable source. Instead of earning, you would really be rather be losing money and this is why it would really be better that you do have that kind of realistic approach
rather than on making yourself that delusional because gambling doesnt really fit out into this criteria. Instead on making yourself that be desperate on doing up some things, it would be best
that you should be able to know about their differentiation between two.

As speaking about being a business then it would really be just that normal that they would really be catering out services on different market. In return then they would really be
having those deductions or commisions simply on which they do make money or simply makes income.

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Let's be honest is there a certain field or profession in this world where people will make an end means easily?
I don't think there's any, even in the cryptocurrency that is filled with diverse opportunities you have to dedicate some hours of your sleep to research, reading, or skill improvement if you want to be at the edge of your game.
Although, online crypto casinos have made things easy but I consider gambling to be more difficult than a job cause we're talking about something that has made some people millionaires and has easily ruined the lives of some people.
The fact that gambling outcome is unpredicted make gambling to be a tough job and so no one should make the mistake of taking gambling to mean way to get quick money because that is not going to happen unless you are really lucky to win a jackpot.

But forever trading in the other hand can be call a profession since if the trader make proper research and calculated analysis they will easily make the right gambling decisions.

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I never liked brokers, especially the ones from forex. Most of their ideas and the way the business is built relies on the fact that it might look easy and you can trade with very little money. Also, forex traders use leverage all the time because currencies aren't really volatile and you don't want to be making 1% because what's 1% of %1k? That's just a few bucks and then there's fees , what are you going to buy with $10 a week? So they make you trade with leverage and that's gambling and brokers make money regardless of whether you win or lose, just like a casino.
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I compared income from my main job and from the gambling. The result told me that the job brings me more money for the same time. But the same time my profit from the gambling was higher than medium salary in my country, so it can be the main income.
Today i bet when i have free time, sometimes for emotions, mostly for some profit and have enough time for family and all my hobbies.

Well, reaching that Balance is worthy of admiration, the truth is I'm very happy and I hope it continues like this always and Profits , when you have confidence like that I think it's when you say that you can earn money while doing what you like the most, and that It is something that makes you Happy as a person, I would also like to reach that level, but as I see the Experience and the tricks , Everything also as luck influences a lot, they Could say that to reach that level a lot would have to happen time, what happens is that sometimes the responsibilities, the expenses, all of that exposes anyone to limiting themselves from doing things, always at every moment we are people who can do what we set out to do, but it is difficult, knowing that Casinos are very Complicated.
Of course there is some luck. Without it i could got win rate 100%. But it is sports and no one can guarantee you that one team win. I think that no one could supposed that Bayern could lost today, or that Man United could got 2 goals against them after 10 added minutes. But my win rate allows me to get profit.
PS. Today was nice day, i`ve catched 2 matches. Čukarički U19 with odd 3.2 and Chiangmai United with the odd 9(catched when the score was 0-1). I`ve lost 3 bets, but the result really nice.



Well, the truth is I thought that Liverpool was going to overtake a MU where they are basically very bad, in fact I read somewhere that they were going to no longer have the services of a Ten Hag because the only thing they have achieved are many failures I also lost that bet, because my bet was that Liverpool would win at least 3-0, but this time I was wrong, at the beginning everything was fine, I don't know what happened to Klopp in his good analysis and strategy, but they are things that fail, it is really not luck, they are events that we cannot control, for me Liverpool is a candidate team to win the PL, in fact for me it is the winner, we have to Wait , well I think that many lost the bets That day.


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We may not have to compare all these together because some of them are not the same with each other, gambling most especially is a different form of getting entertained with fun and others are more about making an investment or business while the brokers are the intermediaries between brokers,
Gambling is the only thing on those options that we can gain enjoyment while trying ourluck
because in stocks and brokerage you must b completely serious in all aspects before gaining that
amount.
What you've just said in this simple way is a pure fact and one of the ways people should know that gambling and trading are not just the same thing. When you are a trader, you are in for the serious business unless you are not serious yourself.
actually i Think you missed my point because what you are saying here is almost
the same as what i have said that in stocks and brokerage we need to be serious and
also same as trading(though I missed posting the word TRADING LOL)

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I've known how to trade for a while and survived many years through trading. This can't be easy with gambling no matter what, and I know that people cannot say that they are trading for the fun, that's heretic, but such is being done in gambling to further prove the difference in them. When you are trading too, you should know that you are actually buying and selling depending on what you are trading, it could be currencies, energies, commodities etc. When you buy them, you own them until you sell them, but when you gamble, you own nothing but just commit your money to the risk and be at the mercy of luck at that time, which makes them different in almost all ramifications but for the "risk" involvement in the two of them which is making people think that they are the same thing, but are certain not. As an experienced trader and a gambler, naturally, I say know the feelings of the two, I can't even think of them the same. I know the models in them and how their activity, management and future hopes and pride feel about them. They are not just the same thing.
gambling is not as easy as well mate, but in gambling it is our willingness that made
us loser not like in trading and those other aspect that we need focus and dig deeper before
putting our money.

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April 09, 2024, 05:52:45 PM
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Of course there is some luck. Without it i could got win rate 100%. But it is sports and no one can guarantee you that one team win. I think that no one could supposed that Bayern could lost today, or that Man United could got 2 goals against them after 10 added minutes. But my win rate allows me to get profit.
PS. Today was nice day, i`ve catched 2 matches. Čukarički U19 with odd 3.2 and Chiangmai United with the odd 9(catched when the score was 0-1). I`ve lost 3 bets, but the result really nice.
Well, the truth is I thought that Liverpool was going to overtake a MU where they are basically very bad, in fact I read somewhere that they were going to no longer have the services of a Ten Hag because the only thing they have achieved are many failures I also lost that bet, because my bet was that Liverpool would win at least 3-0, but this time I was wrong, at the beginning everything was fine, I don't know what happened to Klopp in his good analysis and strategy, but they are things that fail, it is really not luck, they are events that we cannot control, for me Liverpool is a candidate team to win the PL, in fact for me it is the winner, we have to Wait , well I think that many lost the bets That day.
Yep. But i marked these matches to show what is "luck". No one waited such results in such game i think. But for me it doesn`t matter will i win 8/10 or 6/10 - anyway i`ll get a profit. But it is difficult. I didn`t bet for 2 days - there are no interesting odd for me, this week i still waiting for the match.


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April 09, 2024, 06:36:49 PM
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If newbies have the mindset of working out a process for themselves, I'm sure they will be better of than playing randomly and learning the hard way.


This is one of the things that one sometimes does as a beginner, developing certain techniques and certain tricks to win in a casino, what we don't know is that this is sometimes just luck, so our search for better things like winning for sure , that doesn't exist, the most likely thing is that if you don't want to lose then just play, that's what Guarantees us not losing money , the Challenge is still a risk, the things that have to be done for us to Emerge carry a great risk and this can produce investment, do many things like being aware of each strategy, and being clear about that is what makes us different, but every novice has many Insecurities that they do not yet know, self-control, risk management, money to lose They don't know much about all those things, and that's why they lose money.

Gambling will always depend on luck no matter what strategy we use. Although different people use gambling for different purposes, gambling behaves the same for everyone  However, if you enjoy gambling in a relaxed manner without getting excited, besides getting a lot of fun from gambling, you can suddenly win something big from here. so gambling should be used only casually and not seriously. then gambling will not bring any serious harm to anyone.

The truth is that to help beginners I have seen in many threads some tips that are very good, it would be interesting if the forum did something in addition to the rules, some tips for players, those tips that have to do with some of the things What some users say here In the forum, I have come Across people who are very expert at playing and those people teach a lot with what they publish, so when we look for a way to generate more things for the most novices, I think there could be a wide range of advice, personally, according to my experience, I would tell a novice that the main thing is to take care of your money and that when you are going to play the most important thing is to put money that you are totally willing to lose, but money that does not affect your life , I believe that with this many problems will be avoided in the future if this condition is always Followed.

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April 09, 2024, 07:54:49 PM
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You know how casinos lay it all out, they're taking a gamble just like us? But get this, brokers might just be outdoing them in their own sly way. I’m saying brokers might actually be worse. Why? They’ve got this neat, little setup where they rake in their shares through bid-offer spreads and commissions, all while carrying zero market risk. It’s like having their cake and eating it too, but in secret. We’re all out here rolling the dice, while brokers are the house, cashing in risk-free. What’s your take? Are brokers just silently stacking the deck, snagging a surefire win with every trade we make?

Brokers make money through commissions and spreads, no doubt but it will also interest you to know that, brokers now have zero spread account, also commissions are normally taken based on over night trade, its wrong for you to think this way as a trader about  brokers, we know they are manipulative in some way, so is casino.

They provide you with the service you need, you trade out of choice and decision with a broker, they are the medium between you and the market. You're also making money off them, so it's a draw game for me you profit they also profit.

Financially brokers don't benefit from your loss or profits, it just you losing probably because you don't understand the logic of the market. 
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We may not have to compare all these together because some of them are not the same with each other, gambling most especially is a different form of getting entertained with fun and others are more about making an investment or business while the brokers are the intermediaries between brokers,
Gambling is the only thing on those options that we can gain enjoyment while trying ourluck
because in stocks and brokerage you must b completely serious in all aspects before gaining that
amount.
What you've just said in this simple way is a pure fact and one of the ways people should know that gambling and trading are not just the same thing. When you are a trader, you are in for the serious business unless you are not serious yourself.
actually i Think you missed my point because what you are saying here is almost
the same as what i have said that in stocks and brokerage we need to be serious and
also same as trading(though I missed posting the word TRADING LOL)
I missed your point? Honestly, it still surprises me because I never replied to any of your posts. But mind you, being serious doesn't mean success, it is all about how you take it. Some traders may be serious about the wrong approach, so let it capture the whole aspect of trading that involves you and it, which includes the learning and training, planning and its coordination, the whole trading system and its actualization which will also entail discipline. These are serious issues if one wants success in trading, and the more you take trading as a business, the more you get the best out of it. It is not such that one can mistaken for the way of gambling, no, the moment you do that, it means that you might not be ready for it, or not just serious about yourself in relation to it. So it is not a mere talking about the seriousness, but also taking trading as what it truly is.

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Of course there is some luck. Without it i could got win rate 100%. But it is sports and no one can guarantee you that one team win. I think that no one could supposed that Bayern could lost today, or that Man United could got 2 goals against them after 10 added minutes. But my win rate allows me to get profit.
PS. Today was nice day, i`ve catched 2 matches. Čukarički U19 with odd 3.2 and Chiangmai United with the odd 9(catched when the score was 0-1). I`ve lost 3 bets, but the result really nice.
Well, the truth is I thought that Liverpool was going to overtake a MU where they are basically very bad, in fact I read somewhere that they were going to no longer have the services of a Ten Hag because the only thing they have achieved are many failures I also lost that bet, because my bet was that Liverpool would win at least 3-0, but this time I was wrong, at the beginning everything was fine, I don't know what happened to Klopp in his good analysis and strategy, but they are things that fail, it is really not luck, they are events that we cannot control, for me Liverpool is a candidate team to win the PL, in fact for me it is the winner, we have to Wait , well I think that many lost the bets That day.
Yep. But i marked these matches to show what is "luck". No one waited such results in such game i think. But for me it doesn`t matter will i win 8/10 or 6/10 - anyway i`ll get a profit. But it is difficult. I didn`t bet for 2 days - there are no interesting odd for me, this week i still waiting for the match.
Wow, good luck, for City and now for Madrid, I will bet on Madrid, I see that they have a better lineup, apart from that I see that things are very different and I think it could be favorable for Madrid to play at home, at the Bernabeu, and it may be that things can happen in your favor, regardless of your bet, I wish you the best brother.

Many are thinking that City can do harm, so this can give as a reference that many Barcelona fans support City without thinking, this time I don't think there will be a draw, whether Madrid wins or loses, but I see that there is. many expectations, now City is going all out, it is impressive how the expectations are for this match in Spain, in fact I have been thinking about this match for a long time.

And in an impressive way they were tied, I hope you have won.

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April 11, 2024, 05:47:53 AM
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I never said that it is easy. It is really difficult to get nice profit from gambling. And it is like a job. You mustn`t have emotions, you must wake up several times per night, you must be ready to bet every moment of your life. Several times i went to buy bread with a notebook. And only in such a way you can become successful.
I`m good specialist, so my salary is high enough, that`s why i made such choice. But if someone don`t get big money from the job, he can try to get it from gambling. The main problem is that the main part of gamblers think that it is easy money - look at the match and win. No! It doesn`t works so. It is the way to lose all your money and think that you isn`t lucky enough.
I quite understand you, but what I still do not get is how gambling is like a job as I boldened above in your reply. "Emotion" aside, I would like you to elaborate on that because I view them differently, as gambling is a mere activity of betting that should be for the extra daily activity either for the fun or for the money. And even if gambling should be engaged for the money, it should still be for the passive income and not for the main income, this is to avoid financial issues. Relying on gambling alone is even more dangerous, which is a strong call for emotion and will in turn ruin the gambler.

But for you to call it something synonymous with a job and make us believe that if your main job is not paying so high, you would have opted for gambling is what I still do not understand, and perhaps, will not agree to that as well. Gambling is not easy my friend, it is not what I will ever agree to for anyone to do and believe it will feed himself, the family members and the dependents easily. This will only cut the expectation of the person short and cause desperation, and this will lead to frustration over time and also grow to depression if care is not taken. It is easier to say than practice, and I hope you will not try this ever.

By the way, which aspect of gambling are you playing that gives you the high winning rates that encourage you this much?
It is sport betting. Low leagues mostly, mostly live. You don`t watch the match, you don`t cares the result, you just analyze matches and searching nice odds. Sometimes if you don`t sure - look statistics or translation to understand how they plays. You calculate your bets, profits and loses. Every week you calculate the result and decide to increase or decrease bet. All bets are the same - the same sums for every match. Every month you calculate your money and decide what sum to withdraw. Permanently search new bookies, compare odds to get the best result, search matches.
I must have skipped this reply of yours, I was expecting it. Oh, nice, sports betting is the best option in gambling as far as I know and it is such that the house does not have any advantage over it. If you predict well, you earn well, and if you can take higher risks, you earn more. One thing that is best about this is that no sportsbook can change the result of any game, which makes it fair in all ramifications. We should only try to be a better predictor, which is the only way that will increase our chance of winning. Luck is also important here, but first, sports betting is the betting aspect I know that luck is not so required but how best the gambler is fully informed and uses what he knows to bet right.

Notwithstanding, it is not as easy and convenient as you made it look. I am also a good forecasted when it comes to sports betting and I have earned a decent income in it. I am good to the extent that I could risk it for a living but I will never do that because it may cause unforeseen financial issues through the desperation that can result from total dependence. It is better we are betting and also working, after all, if we are good, it will only be a passive income for us. We should never forget that sports betting has its own challenges too and we should not neglect that for any reason. And when the challenge comes, you will ever wish you never quit the job for it.

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April 11, 2024, 03:46:37 PM
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Yep. But i marked these matches to show what is "luck". No one waited such results in such game i think. But for me it doesn`t matter will i win 8/10 or 6/10 - anyway i`ll get a profit. But it is difficult. I didn`t bet for 2 days - there are no interesting odd for me, this week i still waiting for the match.
Wow, good luck, for City and now for Madrid, I will bet on Madrid, I see that they have a better lineup, apart from that I see that things are very different and I think it could be favorable for Madrid to play at home, at the Bernabeu, and it may be that things can happen in your favor, regardless of your bet, I wish you the best brother.

Many are thinking that City can do harm, so this can give as a reference that many Barcelona fans support City without thinking, this time I don't think there will be a draw, whether Madrid wins or loses, but I see that there is. many expectations, now City is going all out, it is impressive how the expectations are for this match in Spain, in fact I have been thinking about this match for a long time.

And in an impressive way they were tied, I hope you have won.
I don`t bet such matches. The bookie knows that it will be lots of bets and analyze it attentively, so i can`t get interesting odd. Only if it will be some luck.
PS. I`m MU fan, so i with Madrid Smiley


It is sport betting. Low leagues mostly, mostly live. You don`t watch the match, you don`t cares the result, you just analyze matches and searching nice odds. Sometimes if you don`t sure - look statistics or translation to understand how they plays. You calculate your bets, profits and loses. Every week you calculate the result and decide to increase or decrease bet. All bets are the same - the same sums for every match. Every month you calculate your money and decide what sum to withdraw. Permanently search new bookies, compare odds to get the best result, search matches.
I must have skipped this reply of yours, I was expecting it. Oh, nice, sports betting is the best option in gambling as far as I know and it is such that the house does not have any advantage over it. If you predict well, you earn well, and if you can take higher risks, you earn more. One thing that is best about this is that no sportsbook can change the result of any game, which makes it fair in all ramifications. We should only try to be a better predictor, which is the only way that will increase our chance of winning. Luck is also important here, but first, sports betting is the betting aspect I know that luck is not so required but how best the gambler is fully informed and uses what he knows to bet right.

Notwithstanding, it is not as easy and convenient as you made it look. I am also a good forecasted when it comes to sports betting and I have earned a decent income in it. I am good to the extent that I could risk it for a living but I will never do that because it may cause unforeseen financial issues through the desperation that can result from total dependence. It is better we are betting and also working, after all, if we are good, it will only be a passive income for us. We should never forget that sports betting has its own challenges too and we should not neglect that for any reason. And when the challenge comes, you will ever wish you never quit the job for it.
I calculate risks. And i never bet all in. The same bet for every match i like. After some time i`ve got "bank" for 1 month of loses. After i ended the experiment i withdraw a part of money and decreased the bet size. Today i withdraw some money, mostly once per month, and don`t increase "bank" or bet.


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April 12, 2024, 12:15:11 PM
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As speaking about being a business then it would really be just that normal that they would really be catering out services on different market. In return then they would really be
having those deductions or commisions simply on which they do make money or simply makes income.

Yes, and yet if we compare casino to Stoc,Forex&Crypto Broker in terms of earning money, I think they are almost the same. In any of those other options luck still pays a big role. Is it harder to earn money there than in casino? I wouldn't say so. But, in my opinion, they are at the same ball park.

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