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September 30, 2023, 05:52:16 AM |
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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online GamblersThe general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc. The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
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September 30, 2023, 06:09:35 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? They are making online gambling there properly regulated which is good for me. I know that most fiat online gambling sites already ask for KYC directly through the registration page which is why I don't know what will be the setup for this since according to the article, and from what I understand, it would be a different KYC from the gambling site and for the government. It might totally eliminate underage gambling but at least, it should minimize one of the problems of gambling there. Although everyone doesn't like the idea of KYC, there is no choice but to comply. Generally, only in Australia.
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September 30, 2023, 06:13:32 AM |
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I can’t imagine a physical casino not doing KYC on their customers. Don’t they do that already? If so, what’s the purpose of this new law? I believe they make lots of money from gambling in Australia. If they make it harder for the players, then the Australian government will lose lots of money. That means less health care, less infrastructure, less security etc…
I think they are trying to ban gambling without directly banning it because they don’t have the balls to do it. The sheeple are not sheep enough.
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September 30, 2023, 06:14:09 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
I think we have talked something similar to this last year. If not last year, it would be early this year or so. The ban of credit card will discourage gambling, there is nothing it has to do with underage. It is even easy for underage to go to betting shops, especially those that are 16 or 17 years old that will look like they are 18 years already. The second link which is about gambler digital ID can be more linked to an effective way not to allow underage gambling, but this is another step to make privacy to becoming the thing of the past.
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Johnyz
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September 30, 2023, 06:17:02 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
Gamblers can always find a way, but of course if you don't want to be in trouble then better to follow the regulations. The ID verification might not totally reduced the volume of underage gambler, its up to the adults now if they really want to help those young people to get involve in gambling. Australian government sees something that is important to address, and its for the better in general. In my country, we still have no strict regulation but I hope they are working into this so they can eliminate fake sites and fake agents.
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September 30, 2023, 06:28:29 AM |
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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online GamblersThe general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc. The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? The Australian economy was good,but this moves from the Australia was the unexpected by the gamblers in Australia.Because nearly half of the Australian population involve in the gambling.Australia never try to ban the gambling using the credit cards,they want to reduce the miss use of the credit cards by the children of the gamblers.Their was many issue happened in the Australia like kids of the gamblers had miss use of credit cards and play the gambling without the knowledge of their parents.The kids also loss the big money in the gambling causes the Australian government to such law on gambling.
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Oasisman
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September 30, 2023, 06:37:22 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
Obviously they are trying to achieve a better resolution to the most common gambling issues like what every country has. It does look like they are very alarmed by these issues that they have put an extra effort to impose another step to eliminate irresponsible gambling. However, minor gamblers may be a little harder to eradicate especially online, because there are several ways to bypass it plus the other casinos might be a little loose with their KYC compliance and lastly, the underground online casinos.
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September 30, 2023, 06:39:41 AM |
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I guess the main motive of the Australian government is to regulate the gambling business that is done throughout the nation. They will keep a track on each and every movement of all the gamblers and will regulate them. They will impose tax on gambling winnings too, and are planning to make good amount of money. This is the reason for which they asking for id verification, and once they find this person wins a certain amount through gambling, they will take some taxes from it.
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September 30, 2023, 06:49:50 AM |
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Regulations that may also be followed by other countries but I am quite sure are not to reduce their citizens from gambling but to prevent gamblers under the specified age, because at least this is the only way the government can do to prevent its citizens who are underage from gambling, while adults are allowed because they have considerations such as having their own income and being responsible enough for everything they do, while offline casinos certainly don't need it because the casino staff can already guess the age of their customers or when they attend they just need to show ID, but I don't know for sure about this because never play at an offline casino.
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September 30, 2023, 07:03:28 AM |
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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online GamblersThe general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc. The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? They cannot stop that what you said is really happening there. Maybe they should pass a law penalize those adult individual help those minors to gamble. Maybe with this they can really reduce the cases of minors doing such activities. If they didn't put some penalty maybe the case became different since for sure with having this no adults will help young people for that situation since they are the one will get chased by authorities if they found out such activities exist on their homes. Casino KYC implementation is doing good to combat any illegal activities and for sure for knowing that exist on a casino this abusers or minors will think twice if they continue their illegal act there or just avoid and seek for another casino.
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September 30, 2023, 07:42:03 AM |
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There's nothing significant in the new rules being introduced. It's just a minor requirement, an ID system, come on. If a gambling site could require that and we would comply, there should be no problem with that. Of course, it will reduce the number of gamblers if what was happening before the new rule was introduced is that minors were allowed to gamble. It will just definitely correct what is wrong.
Now, everyone submits an ID before gambling, making it easier for the government to track their gambling activities, as gambling sites are also regulated by the same government that requires the ID.
Nothing is anonymous now; with government intervention, it becomes known to them already. But don't worry, they promise to keep that information secret, as there's a privacy law. Only you, the government, and the gambling site would know, no one else, unless someone leaks that info.
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September 30, 2023, 07:45:16 AM |
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From what I have seen and read in their articles, I have not noticed anything wrong with their policy that they want to implement for their gamblers or regular customers when gambling online. In fact, I am even impressed with the step taken by their government in the country of Australia—that they really care about minors.
And as far as I can see, they also teach their gamblers to be responsible when they play in the online casinos they have. So for me, it's a good job they are showing, to be honest.
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September 30, 2023, 07:48:02 AM |
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I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
Could just be compliance to let people know that they're strict and whoever sees to gamble should expect that they're going to be subject into this. When a government prohibits and then starts to turn that decision and asks for some compliance, they just can't ignore the fact that there's much money from it if they take it for granted.
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September 30, 2023, 07:58:20 AM |
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This just proved that the Australian government cannot stop their people from playing online casinos so they introduced a more stricter measures these are not only to stop minors from playing but also set deposit limits for their players. Cantwell also noted that the verification process will help companies advertise their safer gambling tools by prompting them to set a deposit limit when they register. Raising awareness of the player protection tools available to consumers has been considered an important step to achieving a safer gambling market where betting is enjoyed responsibly. The government of Australia is very serious about its enforcement, they do not want to see the very high figures that they saw their people losing on online casinos the government of Australia will monitor the development of their measures to ensure success, the players cannot so anything but to comply, or they cannot longer play in their favorite online casinos.
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September 30, 2023, 08:06:20 AM |
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Should this requirements really be able to eliminate underage gambling? what changes compared to before? ok there is one more document....and now? What happen? In Italy many years ago they introduced the "fan card". This ID was ... a credit card, the only tool with which you can buy tickets for a football match.... randomly with commissions that go to banks. I hope this Australian ID is not exploited to introduce electronic payments.... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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September 30, 2023, 08:34:38 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father).
The KYC problem is actually not that complicated. For example, playing at a large casino like Stake at level 1 only fills in information data without having to provide identity for level 2 verification, of course minors will not go for level 2 verification, because as we know money what they hold is not as big as big gamblers, at most only small gamblers with small bets because minors will not have a lot of money. So they only carry out level 1 verification, which is more than enough to be able to withdraw money and make deposits, unless they are big gamblers, but even so, I sometimes see minors doing things like that, giving their identity in the name of their uncle, usually their uncle is also a gambler, so there is cooperation between them, it is rare for minors to gamble using their father's identity because it will create new problems for them with their parents.
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Helena Yu
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September 30, 2023, 08:40:18 AM |
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They can't really stop it, but they're making the minors become harder to get into gambling.
Any government will try to make them looks good for caring minors or something like that, they're not really protect all of their citizen. I have a friend who studying in Australia, the fact they're have "fake university" where you're not learn anything and there's no way to finish your college.
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September 30, 2023, 10:18:11 AM |
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If the main aim of this is to try to reduce gambling addiction(although not stated), underage gambling and some other health risks issue in gambling, then it would be great but if they have other motives like adding taxes to gambling. Because if they should introduce this, they’ll be able to monitor bettors and also see the see their total spending, wins and loses that way they can allocate the amount they are to pay for tax.
The fact still remains that, even if they introduce this Id requirement before gambling minors will still be able to figure out a way to bypass the system and pretend as if they are of age so the government should keep that at the back of their mind.
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September 30, 2023, 11:01:30 AM |
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What are the key changes in this new regulation? Will Australia's new ID rules mean that bettors have to provide their ID cards before they can start playing? Considering that ID (KYC) verification is already a mandatory requirement, why not implement it right during the registration process rather than waiting until after a withdrawal attempt? It seems like a fair approach.
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