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September 30, 2023, 11:44:51 AM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
The only way to reduce and limits people from using their elderly ID's to verify their account is to set a facial recognition by so doing if the identity details doesn't corelate with the face recognition then such account should be halted for cheating. However this regulations and the new ID, does the ID control the limits your wager could be or when this new identity is being used it only sets a kind of restrictions account during finding? There must be something that could connects with the new ID, but have they also thought that one can deposit without using their credit card, gamblers can easily used bitcoin to gamble (to withdrawal and deposit).
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September 30, 2023, 12:04:19 PM |
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A new ID requirement is a good idea I think, it will reduce under-age gamblers for sure. It will also ensure that those who hid their gambling activities from their family will now stop gambling or accept that they are gamblers. What I think will happen now with this new law is that onsite illegal gambling dens will flourish, and it will now help non-KYC crypto casinos gain more users. The use of VPN & TOR will increase for hiding their identity. The final result would be very bad for Australia and ultimately they would rethink these new laws. In the past there have been many instances when a country tried to shadow-ban gambling, the end result was that they had come up with new ideas.
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September 30, 2023, 12:19:55 PM |
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The Australian government is taking a new step to reduce underage gambling. But as we know, if it is an online casino, they can use the ID of their parents, older brothers/sisters, or even their father's/mother's siblings. And they can do it without adults knowing. They can also use online crypto casinos that do not ask them to do KYC at the start of their play. And as long as they don't make too large a deposit, they can still gamble at the casino. Of course, the Australian government wants to reduce underage gambling and they also want to collect data on the number of people who gamble. Maybe in the future a tax will be imposed on gamblers as a source of income for the state.
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September 30, 2023, 12:47:27 PM |
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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online GamblersThe general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc. The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? But how would that work? Would there be additional measures to these "new" requirements that they would do? And in addition, wouldn't users just go to a casino without these strict requirements? Like crypto casinos for example. I hardly doubt they'd tell casinos to implement geoblocking for international ones, though if it was officially a law then it should work. Unless they're able to provide a method where they can detect if the user is different from the id provided, I highly doubt they'd be able to prevent this. Even that method of having your face beside your ID selfie method isn't enough if there's some asses of a parents (or whoever is the real owner of the id) who just allows it.
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September 30, 2023, 12:56:22 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
Australia is changing gambling laws I'm so as to reduce underage gaming and gambling disorder. Although these laws might affect the freedom to gamble in the country, yet I appreciate any change that will prevent children from becoming involved in gambling. Underaged gamblers are highly prone to gambling disorders. Although these laws might have some consequences that should be looked into. I don't know how they intend to handle the rise of unregistered or illegal casinos that will see these restrictive laws as an opportunity to access the Australian gambling market. With these restrictions, VPNs and other privacy website will be used to invade these verifications. But this ID verification is a move at the right direction and we hope to see the impact very soon.
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Wiwo
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September 30, 2023, 10:35:16 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
Obviously they are trying to achieve a better resolution to the most common gambling issues like what every country has. It does look like they are very alarmed by these issues that they have put an extra effort to impose another step to eliminate irresponsible gambling. However, minor gamblers may be a little harder to eradicate especially online, because there are several ways to bypass it plus the other casinos might be a little loose with their KYC compliance and lastly, the underground online casinos. I have come across a casino that demand ID verification before deposits, and I had to submit my ID for verification before being able to play on the casino but then also again I agree that for the fact that rules are rule and casinos already stated it in their t&C make is right for them to demand for such verification requirement of an ID documents. Although we have casinos like Stake and the rest of the other reputable popular casinos that require just minor level one verification on accounts, just know that when it comes to KYC, every casino with they own unique rules.
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September 30, 2023, 10:49:07 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
The only way to reduce and limits people from using their elderly ID's to verify their account is to set a facial recognition by so doing if the identity details doesn't corelate with the face recognition then such account should be halted for cheating. However this regulations and the new ID, does the ID control the limits your wager could be or when this new identity is being used it only sets a kind of restrictions account during finding? There must be something that could connects with the new ID, but have they also thought that one can deposit without using their credit card, gamblers can easily used bitcoin to gamble (to withdrawal and deposit). I think the ID requirement for gamblers in Australia is a very good approach to stop children from online gambling and should be adopted by most countries of the world in other to stop the increasing number if children who's been gambling online. Children who wants to gamble will definitely be spotted through the ID requirement and stopped from engaging in gambling
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September 30, 2023, 10:57:21 PM |
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Does this mean a gambler needs to comply with the KYC of the online gambling site while at the same time, also complying with the governments own KYC in gambling?
Sounds a hassle to me but maybe online gambling sites there will just verified if the gambler already pass the government KYC. The method is not mentioned in the article.
It seems that Australia is really active in making gambling activity there fully regulated.
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September 30, 2023, 11:27:48 PM |
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A new ID requirement is a good idea I think, it will reduce under-age gamblers for sure. It will also ensure that those who hid their gambling activities from their family will now stop gambling or accept that they are gamblers. What I think will happen now with this new law is that onsite illegal gambling dens will flourish, and it will now help non-KYC crypto casinos gain more users. The use of VPN & TOR will increase for hiding their identity. The final result would be very bad for Australia and ultimately they would rethink these new laws. In the past there have been many instances when a country tried to shadow-ban gambling, the end result was that they had come up with new ideas.
You made a great point there because through the ID the age of the gambler will be revealed and if underage he will be denied access to register an account, I believe this is one of the reasons why some of the licensed casinos are mandated to request for ID for their KYC verification m, and this should be coming from the government a d in the fight against underage gambling. I don't want to dive into the discussion on the decentralized casinos that allows for all access without kyc, but have hard their own challenges also., so it is better to have a verified account don a reputable casino then trying to hide under the wrong IP to play.
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A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online GamblersThe general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc. The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? This seems like the government in Australia is making action regarding with the gambling habits of the people right there's because they didn't make any action take if the number of cases regarding with that is just limited, and due to the increase of transactions the use of the credit cards that cant pay with their debts they implement this kind of rules. Those transactions with the banks with the use of cards are detected with the checking on the system so I guess its a ride move with the additional KYC requirements of the users capability to make pay with those debts.
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October 01, 2023, 12:02:33 PM |
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If their purpose of introducing such measures is to actually reduce or eliminate the rate of underage gambling among some kid citizens, then I consider it to be a good approach. The issue is that there will always be a way out, and so many of those smart kids can still find a way out. Just like you said, they will still have the IDs of their elder siblings or parents; they could also get them from some mutual uncles or aunts that can do anything for them; they could just convince them to have such IDs for them. There's a saying that in every difficult situation, there is always a way out, and I feel they can still find a way out to continue doing their thing despite the laws.
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October 01, 2023, 12:14:01 PM |
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Those transactions with the banks with the use of cards are detected with the checking on the system so I guess its a ride move with the additional KYC requirements of the users capability to make pay with those debts.
I'm not sure why the capability to pay is still mentioned here. It's not the government that evaluates your capacity to pay, but rather the credit card companies themselves. When you are granted a credit card, it means you are deemed capable of paying your credit, and as individuals, we each have different credit limits. What the government is trying to do here is to ensure that credit cards are not used for gambling. This is aimed at reducing gambling addiction, possibly based on their evaluation through data provided by the credit card companies, which may indicate a significant amount of credit being used for gambling purposes. In short, they are trying to promote responsible gambling.
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October 01, 2023, 09:33:18 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
The only way to reduce and limits people from using their elderly ID's to verify their account is to set a facial recognition by so doing if the identity details doesn't corelate with the face recognition then such account should be halted for cheating. However this regulations and the new ID, does the ID control the limits your wager could be or when this new identity is being used it only sets a kind of restrictions account during finding? There must be something that could connects with the new ID, but have they also thought that one can deposit without using their credit card, gamblers can easily used bitcoin to gamble (to withdrawal and deposit). I think the ID requirement for gamblers in Australia is a very good approach to stop children from online gambling and should be adopted by most countries of the world in other to stop the increasing number if children who's been gambling online. Children who wants to gamble will definitely be spotted through the ID requirement and stopped from engaging in gambling Did you think there could be a compromise? When the ID is being introduced within some specific period of time and they noticed some kinds of restrictions that involves in gambling or that relates with funds deposit and limitations they could source for a way to compromise the whole system, maybe most of them could still their parents account to start gambling if the new ID restrictions is not applicable to the older people then you would find the underage kids using their parents details. So in my own opinion and suggestions this restrictions to should sets to all citizens including old and young if this is the best way to control and reduce the risk associated with how much they could gamble with.
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October 01, 2023, 09:53:49 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?
The only way to reduce and limits people from using their elderly ID's to verify their account is to set a facial recognition by so doing if the identity details doesn't corelate with the face recognition then such account should be halted for cheating. However this regulations and the new ID, does the ID control the limits your wager could be or when this new identity is being used it only sets a kind of restrictions account during finding? There must be something that could connects with the new ID, but have they also thought that one can deposit without using their credit card, gamblers can easily used bitcoin to gamble (to withdrawal and deposit). I think the ID requirement for gamblers in Australia is a very good approach to stop children from online gambling and should be adopted by most countries of the world in other to stop the increasing number if children who's been gambling online. Children who wants to gamble will definitely be spotted through the ID requirement and stopped from engaging in gambling Did you think there could be a compromise? When the ID is being introduced within some specific period of time and they noticed some kinds of restrictions that involves in gambling or that relates with funds deposit and limitations they could source for a way to compromise the whole system, maybe most of them could still their parents account to start gambling if the new ID restrictions is not applicable to the older people then you would find the underage kids using their parents details. So in my own opinion and suggestions this restrictions to should sets to all citizens including old and young if this is the best way to control and reduce the risk associated with how much they could gamble with. If they would really be that tending to have that ban then it would really be definitely be affecting that taxation that they could get on gambling industry and this is why this kind of suggestion whether it would really be that implemented or would really be just sticking into that ID identification rather than on having that no exemption or whatever terms that they would be setting in. If they do really have those plans on controlling from young people to engage on with gambling then it is really that somewhat pointless or something that could really be easily be bypassed which we know that ID and other information could really be easily be that pass by those youngsters who are really that wise on trying to make things turn around and make them believed that it was a legit adult did make out such deposit. Each country does have their own regulations and set of rules in speaking about gambling.Some do mind about having that control and some doesnt really care at all as long they would really be able to take advantage if we do speak about taxation then this what matter most fo them and dont mine other probabilities or things that could happen.
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October 01, 2023, 10:16:52 PM |
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So this new rule : By asking for ID before allowing consumers to play Or this one which was used before : system where bettors had a 72-hour window to prove their identity. Where’s exactly the modification on the requirements if you only decide to do a verification before playing or after? How this measures will prevent underage or fraudulent gamblers from verifying their accounts if they could do after 72 hours? Is me who didn’t understand this well or it’s really so silly? There are many better options to prevent fraud or any criminal activities with casinos, real effective methods such as confirming accounts or special withdrawal orders of significant sums of money by a manual video call. Verifying the names in lists that government will provide of the most known money laundering organizations for example. In order to really find an effective way to fight such activities, the casino should invest in workers and systems. I must say that any 16 yo child can bypass these measures and can edit and create a fake ID or even use his own relatives ID.
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October 01, 2023, 10:22:08 PM |
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Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it? Firstly, Australia is wanting to clear its name, as in recent months gambling in this country has become a worldwide known problem and this is not good for the country. See that this affects not only online games or the local population, but Australia's relationships with other countries. Secondly, I believe they are trying to disincentivize gambling throughout society, not just by banning underage gambling, but by making it so difficult for business that no local casino will want to continue doing it. But, with so many online games based in other countries and easily accessible in Australia, online games will continue to exist there, so I believe that all these measures will not bring many benefits to the country.
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October 01, 2023, 10:31:37 PM |
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I can’t imagine a physical casino not doing KYC on their customers. Don’t they do that already? If so, what’s the purpose of this new law? I believe they make lots of money from gambling in Australia. If they make it harder for the players, then the Australian government will lose lots of money. That means less health care, less infrastructure, less security etc…
I think they are trying to ban gambling without directly banning it because they don’t have the balls to do it. The sheeple are not sheep enough.
But I don't think banning gambling completely will be possible. That's why if they can tighten the requirements even in online gambling, they will bound to do it so that minor gamblers will not be allowed to gamble anymore because gambling will only make their lives miserable in the future. And parents should be responsible as well to not tolerate their minors steal their IDs as they can also be blamed for that if these minors will get addicted to gambling. I can see that Australia is just trying to prevent their citizens not to fall deeply in gambling addiction. And they find online gambling could make a good start.
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October 01, 2023, 10:48:25 PM |
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Australia is indeed a country with huge gambling communities and societies. A great number of them are addicts, the government is unsure of what decision to choose. Whether to ban gambling in the country or moderate it. The benefits of gambling money to the country is not balancing with the disaster it causes to her citizens. In such a condition, new ideas, techniques and processes would be needed in the country. Which helps to decrease the rate of addiction to a minimal amount. From other responses I've read, members said its purpose is to get hold of the young generation. As it'll be difficult to control a country where people are not restricted from gambling. It's like a treat to them, expect more security measures from the Australian government. I support it. Young people deserve better. Like you said, it gets beyond control everyday, it'll be hard to fully restrict young people. That's why they try different methods, especially in this online gambling era. Multiple loopholes, where they can boycott the rules. It's a torn to their flesh. Government money go into gambling from numerous loans and debts of addicts. Are there tired of gambling money? because it doesn't seem like a publicity trick. The bad side of gambling has affected a lot of communities. Tarnishing the future of the addicted players. Their restricting method is not quite efficient to put the problem to a halt. They need perfect techniques.
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October 01, 2023, 11:08:11 PM |
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This is one way to prevent the youth from bypassing the ID system of Australia for gambling. I have nothing against it, and I don't see anything wrong in getting it passed as I believe it does more good than harm. Aussies might need to exert a little more effort if they really want to gamble. It's not too much of an effort and lots of information involved, but it does repel teenagers in accessing gambling platforms.
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October 01, 2023, 11:32:06 PM Last edit: October 02, 2023, 07:02:05 AM by Westinhome |
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This is one way to prevent the youth from bypassing the ID system of Australia for gambling. I have nothing against it, and I don't see anything wrong in getting it passed as I believe it does more good than harm. Aussies might need to exert a little more effort if they really want to gamble. It's not too much of an effort and lots of information involved, but it does repel teenagers in accessing gambling platforms.
The Kyc to the gambling site was the welcome one,because the website which asking for the kyc will not get involve in the scam mostly.The Australia now was regulating the gambling sites and doesn’t ban the gambling site.Some people think in the wrong way of the Australia in gambling sites.Australia was not against the gambling sites,because the Australia is the biggest economy.The economy of the Australia is not the poor like the other country to ban the gambling in their country.
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