New ID requirements for Gamblers in Australia

[danherbias07]

Scare the kids who are gambling using the identities of their elder relatives or friends.
Putting it on the news will rattle them a bit and it could reduce the number of kids that are gambling without the knowledge of their parents and their government. They may be hiding it for that kind of reason but it's a good move if they are really planning to minimize the number of Australian gamblers.
Scare them off, let them know that they are serious about it, and make them feel that every transaction will be tracked by the government.
It's wrong for gamblers who like their privacy intact but for the government's plan to be successful then it must be done. This kind of action might actually help to gradually reduce the number of gamblers in the long run especially if you are the kind of person who doesn't like the government sniffing around your bank account or other financial accounts.

[maydna]

Perhaps that could be a solution to tackle underage gambling, but it still doesn't seem feasible because children may have known the casino for a long time. They may not use the casino again if there are more requirements that the casino will set. They will also move and look for another casino that is not too strict in implementing its rules.

However, children may still be able to use their parents' (older brother's or father's or uncle's) IDs to verify their accounts. So we'll see how it will be implemented and what percentage of success it will be. But hopefully, this can really reduce the number of children addicted to gambling.

[Yogee]

Perhaps that could be a solution to tackle underage gambling, but it still doesn't seem feasible because children may have known the casino for a long time. They may not use the casino again if there are more requirements that the casino will set. They will also move and look for another casino that is not too strict in implementing its rules.

It's a step in the right direction if the goal is to prevent kids from gambling. Yes they can find some workaround or use other online casinos but for how long? There may be new ones that comes out every now and then but how reputable are they? These underage can continue to "run" until such time they encounter a scam casino or when their funds are seized because of casino's sudden change in KYC policy.

[Poker Player]

It won't be very popular with cryptocurrency casinos, where there is still some privacy compared to fiat casinos, but I agree. There is an eternal debate between freedom (or lack of privacy) and security; and in this case of casinos I am fine with such measures being taken to prevent underage gambling.

Yes they can find some workaround or use other online casinos but for how long? There may be new ones that comes out every now and then but how reputable are they? These underage can continue to "run" until such time they encounter a scam casino or when their funds are seized because of casino's sudden change in KYC policy.

If more and more measures like this are implemented, the percentage of minors who are able to find workarounds will continue to drop. There is another thing that can be done very easily too: force that in every deposit to a casino, apart from putting your card details, you have to confirm with your cell phone, via the app of your bank or otherwise, so that the underage will need not only the card, but also the cell phone to deposit and this reduces the chances too.

[davis196]

It's strange that Australia hasn't already required ID verification from the online casinos.
I can think of countless ways to bypass this new requirement, but I'm not sure how effective they will be.
Many Australian gamblers might start using residential proxies(they are better than VPNs) in order to change their location and signup to foreign online casinos(where KYC isn't mandatory). Proxy providers like IPRoyal were offering static residential proxies for an affordable price.

yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father).

The people, who let their son or little brother gamble online by using their personal data should be punished. The problem is that it's almost impossible to find such people and to prove their quilt.

[Outhue]

How about those who are living in Australia who will signup on a casino as U.S citizens? The government doesn't understand how desperate gamblers can be, they are able to monitor gamblers in that country because they are using credit card, now that crypto is popular, they can easily abandoned every casinos that only accept Fiat through Credit Card payment.

After reading through the website, this do got me

By asking for ID before allowing consumers to play, companies will effectively prevent efforts to circumvent their social responsibility protocols. As a result, operators will be able to identify underage individuals or self-excluded players, stopping them from placing bets.

Like it seems that they want to stop their people from all gambling activities, what do they mean by self-excluded players? Anyways I doubt it's ever going to work, there some badass proxies and premium VPNs that people can use to create accounts on online casinos right from the heart of Australia.

[BitcoinTurk]

Australia, especially recently has started to offer very serious specifications in order to minimize gambling habits. In addition to restricting the money that individuals can spend on gambling with many regulations, many new regulations have begun to be created in order to minimize the rate of gambling with various actions. In fact, although the main aim is to reduce the rate of gambling with many decisions taken and many regulations implemented, it is a very good thing that casinos are also subject to strict inspections with government control. These regulations, in addition to controlling both individuals and casinos also enable casinos to provide services within the framework of a certain responsibility towards their users.

Especially considering physical casinos I think that the KYC procedure is mandatory for all users before this decision. Although this may seem like a newly announced decision it was actually a long-standing rule that should be implemented by every casino.

[Mauser]

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

I had no idea that Australia has a such a large problems with minors gambling online. The need for new IDs to visit online casino is going to make process of creating new accounts a bit longer, but shouldn't be an issue for any adult. If you really want to gamble then showing your ID online is not going to stop you. This will only be a problem for people who don't have an ID yet or who don't meet the age requirements. Migrants who arrived newly in Australia or minors seem to be the target here. What I wonder is how all these kids are able to use their parents money for gambling without them knowing it. It one thing to streal the ID of your dad for 20 minutes to make a new casino account and something completely different to steal money regularly to gamble online. Maybe it would be better to make an information campaign for the parents to check mote after their kids. If someone really wants to gamble they will find ways to get around or break the system, better to involve the parents to get control of the kids again.

[lienfaye]

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

To prevent the minors to gamble online. This is a good initiative to get rid (or if not), to minimize the minors playing even they're still underage since online casinos are accessible and anyone can lie about their real age.

Although this might discourage the gamblers who don't want to expose their identity and still wants to have a privacy, they can't do anything about it but to comply. Otherwise, you can't enjoy playing online because of this new requirement.

[retreat]

The regulations on online gambling platforms carried out by the Australian government are very good considering that currently access to online gambling platforms is very easy and with regulations that require people to verify their identity it will reduce underage people from gambling or various other problems.
Even though children can get around this by uploading their parents' or other people's IDs, the Australian government has certainly thought about this problem and has a solution for it.

[Crypt0Gore]

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

Gamblers can always find a way, but of course if you don't want to be in trouble then better to follow the regulations.
The ID verification might not totally reduced the volume of underage gambler, its up to the adults now if they really want to help those young people to get involve in gambling.
Australian government sees something that is important to address, and it's for the better in general. In my country, we still have no strict regulation but I hope they are working into this so they can eliminate fake sites and fake agents.

Is this all about eliminating fake sites and fake agents? Because I can't read anywhere about this point of yours, this post is about how people are ruining their lives with the help of credit cards on online casinos, and also it looks more like they plan to end gambling the easy way.

People aren't falling into scam casinos in Australia, people are losing their lives and savings to gambling and the government gets to know about it, too much debt that may never get paid and it's disastrous for the people living in Australia.

I doubt that this approach will stop some gamers from gambling but we are not all the same so I expect that some people will probably give up on gambling because of this strict restriction, especially the underage who pretend to be old enough.

[TopTort777]

First I though this news have connections with credit card ban, turns out Australia are simply crazy about gambling While credit card bans are stupid, KYC system to limit underaged gamblers might help Australia. However, no one has cancelled shady ID market usage. But, after reading an article from first post, I did not find anything new towards ID requirements. Ok, they gonna ask for identification to see if gambler is 18+ or 21+, before he places a bet. But I see nothing new here. What were their requirements to gamble offline and online before that? Like welcoming everyone from baby in cradle to deeply aged people with dementia to gamble? Any Australian representative here ?

[Beparanf]

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

Australia do their part to help their citizen minimize gambling as much as possible. The problem should be blamed to the guardians in case a minor age can gamble using their ID since KYC verification requires selfie holding ID which can’t be done without the ID owner attention.

It onky means they allowed the verification process on gambling since their country is already announcing tons of restrictions to gambling yet they don’t even care to check what the heck their children doing on their ID.

[KTChampions]

A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online Gamblers

The general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc.

The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

If I remember correctly, during Covid, Australia was one of those countries where quarantine took extremely totalitarian forms. It seems that since then the authorities have only aimed at banning/regulating everything that can be banned/regulated. Parasite officials are once again creating problems in order to “solve” them later; if voters do not deal with these parasites, then it will only get worse.

[Hispo]

Australia has a long story on regulating content on the internet and also in their entertainment markets. It is one of the countries with most censure on videogames, for example. So the fact they now want to further restrict gambling is no surprise to me. I even recall reading a WikiLeaks article on how allegedly the Australian government censored internet webpages in a massive way, unbeknownst to their citizens and residents.

Sure, minors are supposed to stay away from casinos and gambling webs, but making the KYC process too complicated for everyone could negatively impact in the volume of casinos.

I don't even know who they plan to help preventing addiction through government restrictions.

[dezoel]

They say that their country is losing billions of dollars in gambling every year and this is probably a try to reduce that amount and they are doing all these things to reduce gambling itself and not just reduce the things like minor gambling or anything. One more reason for extra verifications might be because they want to regulate online gambling so that they can tax players who manage to get big wins from gambling, they must have taxes on that, I guess.

All in all, they are eventually going to ban online gambling within the country after doing all these things, and then the only way for people from Australia to gamble will be land-based casinos and they are easily regulated by the authorities so there won't be any problems for them to collect taxes from them.

[TopTort777]

They say that their country is losing billions of dollars in gambling every year and this is probably a try to reduce that amount and they are doing all these things to reduce gambling itself and not just reduce the things like minor gambling or anything. One more reason for extra verifications might be because they want to regulate online gambling so that they can tax players who manage to get big wins from gambling, they must have taxes on that, I guess.

All in all, they are eventually going to ban online gambling within the country after doing all these things, and then the only way for people from Australia to gamble will be land-based casinos and they are easily regulated by the authorities so there won't be any problems for them to collect taxes from them.

Or, Australians might get offended on their government and instead gamble abroad, feeding their money to someone else economy. We have example of such totalitarianism - China. Where gambling is allowed only in Macau. That is why when being abroad, I see that casinos are always filled with significant amount of Asian looking gamblers. But the economy of China is different to Australian. While China can allow to survive without those extra budget income, Australia might (not claiming, but supposing) get some shortage.

[Cryptomultiplier]

The Australian government is just every other government we have, that do initiate an engaging idea to benefit itself and not the large scale citizens, and can easily regulate and ban and restrict with the slightest ease.

Unless the citizens do not have a national identity card or work i.d cards to identify themselves in real life with, this new I.d requirement for gamblers all in the guise to specify the gamblers ages, or restrict gamblers is but a waste of budget and time.
Australia is way too urban to make gambling life difficult, mostly as it is surrounded by natural wonders, wide-open spaces, beaches, deserts, "The Bush", "The Outback". It's like a dream destination for many of us in other continents like myself. I do hope to gamble someday in Sydney but it would be bad if gambling is as restricted and limited as they are making it be.

[jrrsparkles]

A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online Gamblers

The general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc.

The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

So before this, there is no ID requirements for people who want to gamble in Australia?

It is probably a political play to mitigate attention from their previous announcement about banning credit cards from gambling.

For the other party gamblers, it can become fatal if they are not following whatever requirements because the casinos can hold the winning amount if the gambler fails to comply with the verification after the wins.

[Synchronice]

A few days ago i shared a news where Australia will ban Gambling through credit cards, now it seems that they are moving another step ahead in this and now Australia Introduces New ID Requirements for Online Gamblers

The general purpose for this is to reduce gambling in Australia but they will make excuses that this is done to overcome underage gambling etc.

The measure would mitigate certain problems such as underage gambling or gambling harm, Responsible Wagering Australia says

Wow, Australia is doing exceptionally well. I like this attitude, know your customers before they deposit money instead of asking your customers for KYC documents when they win large amounts of money.
Their attitude truly shows that they care about the gambling addiction of their citizens because it's not only about age control, they also want to integrate cashless gaming to let people still get that gambling experience but without possible financial loss.

Although most casinos ask for KYC, yet minors still gamble on their elders ' IDs (Elder brother or father). I wonder by introducing this ID verification what special Australia is looking to achieve from it?  

Didn't you read the article that you posted here? It's pretty obvious they want to solve the gambling addiction problem, lower the number of gamblers and reduce the availability of casinos among teens, as much as possible and their method will obviously work, unless someone has an adult that intentionally lets teen to gamble by verifying his/her account every time teen gambles.