ICC World Cup 2023 - India discussion

[elevates]

Not much of the World Cup would be left for Shreyas Iyer if he is unable to deliver in the next match against Srilanka. Two more guys are eyeing for the 4th batting spot in the team. They are Ishan Kishan and SKY, after Hardik Pandya returns either one of them would replace Iyer if he performs in the same manner in his last 6 games in the World Cup. Found the news on mainstream media and thought of sharing it with you guys.

World Cup, India vs Sri Lanka: Shreyas Iyer put on 'short' notice

He has only one half century from 6 matches in the tournament. He is struggling with his form otherwise he is one of the most agressive batter after Rishabh Panth. I won't be surprised if he is dropped after the match against Srilanka. SKY has a better chance to bat at number 4 when Hardik comes bat. He is a batter who can easily increase the run rate with his ability to hit the ball 360 degree. In the last match we did saw some of his hits.

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[Bureau]

Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

• India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
• South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
• New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
• Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

[Bitcoin Smith]

Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

• India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
• South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
• New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
• Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

AFAIK, 12 points is enough to secure the top 4 spot and India as well as SA reached it so both teams will be fighting for top 1 and 2 positions while the remaining teams have to perform well as well rely on other's result to get qualified.

As of now NZ dropped to 4th position after the huge defeat against SA today which will make the NZ to win remaining 2 out of 2 to secure their spot or if 1 out of 2 then their qualification will be based on NRR.

Tomorrow we have India vs SL and with current form of India its impossible for SL to beat India but the fact its going to be the repeat of 2011 final since its going to happen at Wankhede. I hope India will make the right change now which is replace Iyer with Ishan and let the SKY continue at his current spot so that we still have the stability if Hardik might ruled out of the tournament at knockout stages.

[pakhitheboss]

Semifinals Qualification Scenario

The top 4 teams according to current point tables are India, South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. How many wins do each of them need to confirm their semifinal spot.

• India needs only 1 win out of their 3 matches.
• South Africa need two wins to guarantee their spot out of three matches.
• New Zealand need to win all the three matches to confirm their spot.
• Australia too has to win all the three matches to confirm their spot. If they lose any game then they will have to rely on other results and NRR.

I can confirm that India will be able to secure their spot in the next game, which is against Srilanka. Which three will be the next to confirm their spot? Any guesses?

India will win today against the weaker Srilanka side to confirm their semifinal. The Kiwis after their lost yesterday would now depend on NRR and have to win all thier matches.

Let me add the qualification scenario of Pakistan. They have to win all thier games. The do need to work on the NRR for that they have win thier next match by a margin of minimum 83 runs and within 35 overs depending whether they bat first or bowl first. Not an easy task for them but knowing Pakistan they might be able to sneak into the semifinals.

[Bureau]

Only two are still playing out of the 10 names mentioned on the list. It is irony that none of the teams playing in this year's World Cup have players that are capable like Rohit and Virat. I hope to see new names coming  up in the next World Cup. Some new Indian names might get added to that list.
The Playing 11 remain the same


As expected no changes made by the Indian team management. They don't want to rest senior players or give opportunities to those who are warming the seats. I was expecting Ishan and Ashwin to be part of the squad.

[Bitcoin Smith]

As expected no changes made by the Indian team management. They don't want to rest senior players or give opportunities to those who are warming the seats. I was expecting Ishan and Ashwin to be part of the squad.

Team India backing up Iyer too much even though it is good for the team environment, still it is kind of discouraging to the talents who are waiting for their opportunities even after having records in their few appearances.

Gill and Kohli made good partnership but two of them fell short of their centuries, I was waiting for 49th ton today which came too close but again soft dismissal. Even after two wickets, India is maintaining the good phase, and it looks like we can reach 360 or more.

250/3 at 39th over. 50 partnership between Iyer and KL Rahul.

[Bureau]

Team India backing up Iyer too much even though it is good for the team environment, still it is kind of discouraging to the talents who are waiting for their opportunities even after having records in their few appearances.

Gill and Kohli made good partnership but two of them fell short of their centuries, I was waiting for 49th ton today which came too close but again soft dismissal. Even after two wickets, India is maintaining the good phase, and it looks like we can reach 360 or more.

250/3 at 39th over. 50 partnership between Iyer and KL Rahul.

An interesting competition was happening when both SKY and Iyer were batting together. We all know they both and Ishan Kishan are competing to get into the 4th position and for now, Iyer is winning as SKY got out while trying a pull shot. That is why a batter like SKY needs to understand the difference between a T20 format and an ODI format. Playing careless shots does work in T20, but not in ODI or Test cricket. While batting in the T20 format a batter's objective is to score as many runs as they can in 20 overs whereas in a 50-over match, you would need to have patience and the ability to find an odd ball to hit a boundary.

[pakhitheboss]

An interesting competition was happening when both SKY and Iyer were batting together. We all know they both and Ishan Kishan are competing to get into the 4th position and for now, Iyer is winning as SKY got out while trying a pull shot. That is why a batter like SKY needs to understand the difference between a T20 format and an ODI format. Playing careless shots does work in T20, but not in ODI or Test cricket. While batting in the T20 format a batter's objective is to score as many runs as they can in 20 overs whereas in a 50-over match, you would need to have patience and the ability to find an odd ball to hit a boundary.

Yes, it was good to see both these guys competing against each other. In the end Iyer did a good job, hoping he continues to do the same in the semifinals.

Another match which is one sided, India won't have any issues in winning the game today. Some stupid quoted my reply on the thread moderated by elevates. They said India alreat has 12 points they have already secured thier semifinal position. The problem here is too much information but a mule mind to deduce it. If they know what calculation means they would understand pointing towards some illeterates.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Yes, it was good to see both these guys competing against each other. In the end Iyer did a good job, hoping he continues to do the same in the semifinals.

I would still prefer SKY over Iyer and I will tell you why, he clearly has weakness against the short ball and today SL bowlers didn't attempted it however imagine match against SA where Rabada, Jansen, Coetzee will use the short ball as go to ball against him where he will fail for sure in my opinion.

There are some unofficial reports says that Hardik will join back to the team in the final league match against Netherlands and continue from there.


Congratulations team India for such commanding victory and kudos to the lethal bowling attack from all the three pacers.

[pakhitheboss]

These three are the best Indian bowlers that have been produced to date. Srilanka again lost against India and scored 55 runs because of these three guys. Mohammad Shami is again getting a fifer in three matches he has taken 14 wickets, if he continues in the same manner then he might be the most successful bowler and highest wicket-taker in the World Cup.

Kohli missed out on his 49th century again, he again got out playing a loose shot. Shubhman Gill gained his form back and would have scored his first century in the World Cup but an excellent ball by Madhushanka got him out. With another game and another win by team India, they remain undefeated in the tournament. They are now a team that would be hard to defeat in the World Cup, in a way they are now invincible.

[Cointikka]

Saw the match between Afghanistan an the Netherlands. It surely made me realise as to how Afghanistan came up so good in the world cup. They were supposed to be at the bottom that is what everyone expected.

You guys might have seen them wearing AMUL logo on their jersey. They were wearing the same logo in 2019, it was the first time AMUL had sponsored them. Afghanistan ended up last in the 2019 point table. Still, AMUL never left them. If ypu can search Google they were the sponsor when Afghanistan played in the T20 world cup.

The point of my analysis is simple never leave your coins before you could fall for the greed. Every coin has something unique and if you have invested in it then remember it has something special as you are who made the choice. Never repent with your choice as you would always regret it.

[pakhitheboss]

Another big game early in the morning between Pakistan and Newzealand. Both teams need to win in order to stay in the World Cup. Newzealand are already on the fourth spot on the poin table if they lose they will lose their spot. Pakistan again in the same situation like they were in the T20 WC. They need to win all their games in order for them to get in the semis.
Bad news for India! Hardik Pandya is out of the World Cup due to his injury.

[libert19]

^ and Pandya has been replaced with Prasidh Krishna, he'll probably stay on bench since India has enough bowlers. Ashwin might be proper replacement in playing 11 in place of Pandya as he can also bat.

[Bitcoin Smith]

Bad news for India! Hardik Pandya is out of the World Cup due to his injury.

That is terrible news

He is current world's best all-rounder in ODI format and even though team India is performing really well without his presence it can be a problem in knockout games because Indian batting unit has got long tail and if they want to replace him with Ashwin who can give us the batting depth then who is it going to be, cause 3 pacers- 2 spinners formula worked well for us.

^ and Pandya has been replaced with Prasidh Krishna, he'll probably stay on bench since India has enough bowlers. Ashwin might be proper replacement in playing 11 in place of Pandya as he can also bat.

As I said above who will be left out if R.Ashwin come in. They have to compromise kuldeep Yadav or Siraj if they really need to deepen the batting, but I don't think India will take that risk.

[libert19]

^ and Pandya has been replaced with Prasidh Krishna, he'll probably stay on bench since India has enough bowlers. Ashwin might be proper replacement in playing 11 in place of Pandya as he can also bat.

As I said above who will be left out if R.Ashwin come in. They have to compromise kuldeep Yadav or Siraj if they really need to deepen the batting, but I don't think India will take that risk.

You are right, this is why I don't think we'll see any change in playing 11 today, but he could be added in place of Yadav if India wants some batting strength. I have no idea who is better spinner of two.

Also, Surya and Shreyas won't have to fight for position anymore 

[pakhitheboss]

^ and Pandya has been replaced with Prasidh Krishna, he'll probably stay on bench since India has enough bowlers. Ashwin might be proper replacement in playing 11 in place of Pandya as he can also bat.

As I said above who will be left out if R.Ashwin come in. They have to compromise kuldeep Yadav or Siraj if they really need to deepen the batting, but I don't think India will take that risk.

You are right, this is why I don't think we'll see any change in playing 11 today, but he could be added in place of Yadav if India wants some batting strength. I have no idea who is better spinner of two.

Also, Surya and Shreyas won't have to fight for position anymore 

Yes, both SKY and Iyer would now be part of the playing 11. With Hardik out they have secured that position till the end of the World Cup. Without Hardik the team is doing well currently. I am expecting a few changes in the team today as both South Africa and India have already qualified for the semifinals. I think some senior players might be rested today. KL Rahul is now the new vice captain, so he might be played as Captain today and Rohit and Virat can be rested. This is my assumption and I might be wrong.

[Bitcoin Smith]

I think some senior players might be rested today. KL Rahul is now the new vice captain, so he might be played as Captain today and Rohit and Virat can be rested. This is my assumption and I might be wrong.

Different perspective but I don't think no one want to be rested now because they are now in the glorious form so all of them just wants to continue their good winning combination. Don't forget this match is also important to secure the top spot of the table so if we end up there then we might get to play with slightly weaker team at the semi final.

The man to watch out for today is Virat and today is his 35th Birthday, so let's wish all our blessings on him and hope he will match the record today.

[libert19]

The man to watch out for today is Virat and today is his 35th Birthday, so let's wish all our blessings on him and hope he will match the record today.

...and he makes it. Shreyas could have made his too but he got out trying to hit each ball. These two were slow in start of their innings but eventually recouped well.

[HelliumZ]

Today was King Kohli's birthday and celebrated his 49th ODI century in a different way. It would be an understatement to celebrate his birthday with just a 49th ODI century. King Virat Kohli has achieved the distinction of scoring the most century in one-day internationals in the cricket world with his 49th ODI century. It is a cricket record on one hand and an important achievement of Virat Kohli's personal career on the other hand. Congratulations to Virat Kohli on his birthday.

[pakhitheboss]

The Indian team continues to remain unbeaten and this might be the first time that in a big tournament they are not getting an opponent worthy of defeating them. As expected  Pakistan teams luck prevails and they are sure shot to get into the semifinals. That is what my intuition states, they would meet the Indian team and they might win against India.

If that happens then again Australia would lift up the trophy. If Pakistan doesn't qualify then India will win the World Cup considering the amount of wins they have got in the league matches.