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October 03, 2023, 07:32:34 AM
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I wish gamblers were more honest when it's their fault.
Unfortunately, it's the opposite since gamblers would do almost anything to get their money back even though they lost it fair and square.
It's hard to find honest gamblers and casinos, both of whom may want what they want, namely money, so as long as the case includes screenshot evidence, it will definitely be enough to prove that the accused is guilty and the guilty must also provide strong evidence to dispel the accusation. the accuser, as long as everyone has evidence everyone will definitely side with one of them.

I personally don't really take sides with anyone unless the two of them are met with the evidence they include, maybe I will side with the one that is strongest, but in reality what we get is that no one is truly honest and open and has the same interest in getting money. The gambler will of course try as hard as possible to get his money, while the casino, apart from wanting the gambler's money, also on average cannot prove proof because of security. mostly it is the casino's reputation that deters honest gamblers  Grin

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October 03, 2023, 08:10:04 AM
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but I think some of the gamblers' opinions could be right, I mean the casinos feel they are strong and the words of an unclear gambler will not be listened to by other people.
unless the player who comes is a rich person who has the effect and power to say that.
I'll tell you one thing, if you are RIGHT but you don't have relationships and power then you can easily be said to be WRONG by those who have these things.

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October 03, 2023, 08:33:39 AM
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You're on the Internet, people are quick to judge here but that don't mean that people are invested too much on which side they think is bad or good, they just simply look at the surface and decide then and there which is not wrong but at the same time a bad practice. Now if there are evidence that can help the accuse solidify their claims, I don't think that it needs a lot of thinking power to choose which side plus anyone should be capable of critical thinking so don't be too overthinking that people taking sides for the heck of it.
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October 03, 2023, 08:45:12 AM
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For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.
Back to the original rule that the casino House will never lose. Even though there are claims from gamblers who say they win too often, it is clear that this is just nonsense. Even local casinos never say so to prohibit gamblers from winning, but does that really happen?
Casinos with well-known reputations take advantage of people like this with their influence and there is compensation that can be achieved by both parties. It doesn't matter if his followers gain or lose, because everything he gets comes from other people's losses.

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October 03, 2023, 11:37:45 AM
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We will not know whether the story is original or fake but it is clear, we only know that the casino as the business owner will not like it if there is a gambler who managed to win a lot of money. Casinos might not give them anything because the gambler can win it easily because of his luck. And that is normal because the casino wants to protect its business and avoid great losses. Besides, we can't do anything if the casino finally decides like that and only the rules. Indeed, the casino still allows us to play but we already feel uncomfortable playing gambling in Kasinon. And if that has happened, we can move to other casinos that can provide comfort in playing gambling.

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October 03, 2023, 02:13:57 PM
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Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.


I totally agree on this!
There are always different sides in every story. Before we make assumptions and accusations about something, let's try first to know every sides of the story because only taking one side will make you bias about your judgements. As far as I know, casinos are only banning gamblers who are winning constantly if by means of any cheating or fraudulent activities that is against their rules and regulations.
And yes, casinos can ask you to leave anytime because they have that power, but of course they will not order you to leave if you didn't do anything wrong. So the bottom line here is, casinos won't banned you without any reasons. Considering that every casinos have their own terms and regulations, and maybe you had violate something that you are not aware of.



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October 03, 2023, 03:05:09 PM
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For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.
As long as it does not significantly affect their business, they should not take any action against a gambler. However, if they believe that gambling is affecting their profits, banning may not be the solution; instead, it's only them limiting a certain gambler.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

It's hard to take a side in this story, as it can never be transparent. Gaining public sympathy, most likely, people will side with the gambler. I'm emphasizing transparency because we, the public who would judge, may not be able to verify if the statement of a casino banning a gambler is true.

For example, what if they say a gambler broke the rules? Can they be transparent about what rules the gambler broke, and would they provide all the necessary evidence without putting their reputation at risk for violating customer's privacy?

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October 03, 2023, 06:18:48 PM
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For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.


I won't deny it, but maybe there are some casinos that do it. So far, we have only listened to the story and even discussed it several times. in my experience playing on various casino platforms, it is rare for big casinos to do things like that. What I said refers to my experience in various casinos, both land-based, fiat casinos and even crypto casinos which are our choice for now.

As for cases that have occurred, it is worth questioning the casino's reputation. and for the most part, only casinos that do not have a rating often commit fraudulent acts as in most cases experienced by members. Not only for big wins, there have even been several cases of casinos not paying their customers for their winnings, even on a small winning scale. That is why, it will be very important to determine our choice of playing at a trusted casino. has a high rating, is licensed, and has credibility that can be trusted, especially in terms of service when we make a complaint. That's why, I have a favorite casino that I trust and gives us comfort in terms of playing as well as withdrawing winning funds.

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October 03, 2023, 06:26:24 PM
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We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.
This is basically the major experience here in the forum because I have seen so many gamblers who often complain timelessly how they were banned or restricted of their winning and one of the Casino that have always fall victim of such complaints would be bc.game, the amount of complaints only that the company have received will let alone think that such complaints are actually real but a majority of these complaints are actually customer fault and they have failed to meet up with the rules of the company making them get punished one way or the other.

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October 03, 2023, 06:50:42 PM
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We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.
Lots of issues that had been thrown out lately and this one is included on which they do really have been experiencing those kind of restrictions because they are winning which we cant really be able to tell if its true or not.
Unless if these people or person would really be mentioning out the platform name then we could really be able to judge whether they are dealing with a legit or reputable site or not because one of the factors that would really be telling us that the situation might be true basing up on the platform on which they are playing because we know that not all things would really be blamed out to those people who do suffer some issues or bad experiences because there are actually platforms which does have that kind of shady act. If someone do really points out on a site which had been known to be that reputable or known for long time then it is likely
that those accusations might really be that ignored or would really be just simply be that rejected out by the community and assuming that complainant did really make out some violation which its true that it is really
that impossible that they would really be making out actions without having those possible reasons because they do know that one false move then it would really be costing up their reputation and this is something
that they wont really be easily on making up decisions unless if it was really truly proven.

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October 03, 2023, 07:40:14 PM
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We should hear both sides of the stories before take sides. But let's be honest here, gamblers will definitely take sides with their fellow gamblers and the casinos have no other option than to protect themselves whichever way they can.

Some gamblers behave quite unruly when they are at the casino and getting them banned is the safest and easiest way for them protect themselves just as you would to your business should someone try to act foolishly around your business premises.

I think those gamblers who get banned and come out to share their stories are those who know that they didn't break any of the casino rules. But those who are banned and can't say it because they know they were caught cheating or doing something against the casinos. They can't face the public because they know that they will be criticized heavily.

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October 03, 2023, 08:18:06 PM
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but I think some of the gamblers' opinions could be right, I mean the casinos feel they are strong and the words of an unclear gambler will not be listened to by other people.
unless the player who comes is a rich person who has the effect and power to say that.
I'll tell you one thing, if you are RIGHT but you don't have relationships and power then you can easily be said to be WRONG by those who have these things.
It depends on the level of the evidence present by the gambler to make their words right and validate and true accusations against the casino, that is why is very important to keep evidence of your activities at the casino at all times since the casino will definitely lock the account out once the hard a case against them.

That is why gamblers are expected to be proactive in their approach to things as they deal with the casino,  it is fair enough to keep screenshots and other possible evidence in case of rainy days like this so that the gambler can have evidence to fall back to in pursuing their case with casinos.
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October 03, 2023, 08:25:20 PM
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We should hear both sides of the stories before take sides. But let's be honest here, gamblers will definitely take sides with their fellow gamblers and the casinos have no other option than to protect themselves whichever way they can.

Some gamblers behave quite unruly when they are at the casino and getting them banned is the safest and easiest way for them protect themselves just as you would to your business should someone try to act foolishly around your business premises.

I think those gamblers who get banned and come out to share their stories are those who know that they didn't break any of the casino rules. But those who are banned and can't say it because they know they were caught cheating or doing something against the casinos. They can't face the public because they know that they will be criticized heavily.
Some are just throwing accuse and some are just being ignorant of the issues. There are also times both are wrong such that if the player has violated something and the platform did not bother explaining it to the player. If both are showing proofs and are explaining oneself then it should be better to not take any side and let things be put into its place; communicate. A platform if it gives importance to its reputation will not simply allow it to be ruined by a single player hence they should make an action. A player on the other hand won’t stay quiet if the platform suddenly hold his/her funds without any warning or clarification. Taking side in this instance will just make the issue bigger as well as delay the solution.

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October 03, 2023, 08:31:23 PM
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We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

I’ll tell you more: casinos are interested in having players who win a lot out of nothing. This does not change their average income in any way, but serves as the most effective advertising - after all, everyone will know about such cases. No one is interested when some millionaire wins a couple of millions making huge bets, but when an ordinary person hits the jackpot, it attracts attention.

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October 03, 2023, 11:12:22 PM
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It's a bit of a funny thing to me because, common, no one gets permanently banned for winning too much, very unethical behavior, which is nearly impossible for a reputable casino. Unless there's a casino that doesn't require you to pass KYC before gambling and you've probably won a huge amount, they could just ask for KYC before withdrawal, but to permanently ban the person when the rules are broken, it's rare to see such an act. It could be common with only casinos that were built with the intent to scam gamblers. Some gamblers just go along and use some non-popular casinos that end up locking them out of their accounts and don't even have quality customer support.

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October 03, 2023, 11:19:57 PM
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I see where you're coming from and honestly, I would've stood by your argument if not for the fact that more often than not, people who complain about a casino's practices/actions are most often right about it too.

As someone who knew customer service by heart, it's always imperative that you take the side of the complainant from the get-go. After all, these people won't call you everyday for the rest of their lives just to mess with you, they have a real issue that is needed to be addressed if not solved. After that, hear them out, check against the records if whether what they say is true or not. Check the documents your company provided you with for bylaws and ordinances they may have overlooked. Only by then will you have to inform them or recompense them.

This is the reason why I always advocate for casinos with stellar customer service. It's not about taking sides or whatnot, it's about letting them know that they are heard, they are understood, and that you are eager to help them or inform them of what's going on.

As for your case, sure. Believe them away still, it's the best way for them to spill the beans on their strategy anyway, which you can then tip off to the casino so they can issue fixes and patches that doesn't necessarily equate to the user getting banned.

Thing is, no one ever changes their minds after you call them a cocksucker, be nice and be sincere, it's the best way to get around people.

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October 03, 2023, 11:27:12 PM
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Well it's usually because of ToS or something that they get banned. Their being banned due to "winning too much" is probably either A, a misunderstanding, or B, just them wanting to brag but they know the real reason why they got banned. I myself have never experienced such issues/problems after all, so I reckon it's all on them instead of anything else in reality. There might be some casinos that do that though but without any real prior proof or the casino themselves (or an insider) being transparent about it, innocent till proven guilty.

You'd honestly find it hard to look for, not just gamblers but anyone who has received negative experiences to be completely honest about what they did. I mean look, even people lie to emergency medical staff to keep their pride, what more to random people on the internet.

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October 03, 2023, 11:45:29 PM
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As long as one of the parties provides efficient proof and valid arguments, I'll go side with that.

Sometimes, complaints lack evidence, so how come we can side with the gambler in that case?

Aside from that, reputable casinos won't just ruin their reputation without providing their side of the issue. If they were able to provide a solid stand against those complaints and issues, they would be the winner here. On the other hand, if the gambler able to provide several proofs about their complaints on the site, the community might backed the gambler up.

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October 03, 2023, 11:46:03 PM
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You can't also ignore the fact that there are casinos who are trying to do the best they can to prevent people from winning too much. That's also a fact that is hard to deny. Though you are right, there are people who are trying to cheat the system to beat the casino, and they don't go unpunished especially if the time comes that they won so much that the casino can now take action to restrict their accounts.

It's always good to exercise fair judgment by seeing the facts first. So far, I think no one here jumps on the casinos on the first chance they get. They wait for evidences first before giving their inputs against the platform.
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I agree with you that no one should believe in stories that they hear from someone if it's just one-sided and there isn't strong evidence to back the statements being made. However, I'm not ready to believe that things like these don't happen and even if a casino is reputable or has a lot of trust in the community, they will still at least take some action if they see that a gambler is winning way more than they should and it might be affecting them.

So, casinos are not really that decent when it comes to giving away profits to gamblers because they might be losing money themselves and that isn't good for their business. That being said, you are right that one shouldn't take sides for a one-sided story and should ask for some evidence when someone blames a casino.

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