Before you take sides

[lionheart78]

A reader should be neutral in his feelings when taking sides.  One should take both facts without any kind of bias feeling and see through the evidences objectively.  If one become subjective then taking sides will become biased and may lead us to support the one who is doing the wrong and illegal activity.

If we are biased inclined to one party, then any evidence provided by the other party will be worthless because we alredy have decided who to take side with even before we saw the presented evidence of the case.

I always believe that in every situation, there’s always two sides of the story. And if the gambler has accuse the casino, that’s when I start thinking that there’s also something wrong with this gambler why the casino has banned him or restricted his account that he won’t be able to bet again. I don’t consider the gambler’s side, nor the casino’s side. But one thing is certain, the casino won’t easily end up with its final decision if the gambler has never commit a mistake or has never break a rule in the first place.

True that, this is the reason why have the need to listen to the other side of the story since most people that tells their story in a dispute only reveal the information that is favorable to them, they might even twist some fact to justify their claim.

[Accardo]

Op you are at right track because for a gambling platform to block someone account that means that person most have broken the rules and regulations of the gambling platform, because I know very well that gambling platform have to do with instructions especially casinos, like some people do not like verify their account before depositing or withdrawing a platform of casino as it is being instructed by the platform, so this is one of the issues that may cause issues for a casino platform to block an account of their patronize, let us try to admit to gamble rules and regulations because the site is owned by someone.

Indeed, if a person fails to verify their account, while wagering money on a casino. Definitely, to reduce money laundering, they'll be asked for KYC, during withdrawal. It's always important to read their TOS and endeavor not to break any. Gambling platforms are not decentralized and most times the owner can get tricky on players too. What if the owner is breaking the TOS he made? as it seems that they make the rules to break it on big winners. The complaints we read about the actions of gambling admins to big players doesn't sit well. Breaking a rule out of many, doesn't guarantee treating a player like he's not a customer outside the platform. Despite being banned he has the privilege to be attended to properly regarding why he's been banned.  Especially, when he just won big amount. Yes, it's boldly written on their tos, about the implication of breaking rules. Yet a player can appeal to get paid by the casino. There are multiple questionable reasons why a person can be banned from any casino. But the player, whose account got removed, while feeling cheated needs some explanation and most crucially their funds. You see how the issue escalate. Many big rollers have lost hundreds of thousands in gambling, due to ban. Is it how casinos make extra income? Some jackpots when paid can run down the casino. New casinos, if they pay a player the huge amount worth their winning, can easily go bankrupt. The owner of the casino would say hell no, and find faults. A casino who doesn't want to go bankrupt, doesn't care about whatever the player does to get back to them. Which originates the ill treatment transferred to the player. By ignoring them. The player on his end desperately needs the money. Who amongst them will you side? I'm going for or with the player. Additionally, these TOS are too large to read and we may not notice, when a quick change appears on the rules. Casino owners can be shady. To some extent playing with aged casinos is being advised. Because new casinos, can fail their player to save the business. It all gets complicated as it goes.

[gunhell16]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

In the gambling industry, we know that it is not talked about that we have to be smart to win big money in the casino or whatever. Because there is probably no casino, they will build a gambling business without knowing what they are getting into. All its owners can be said to be smart and not allow players who gamble on their platform to defeat them.

Now, if there are other players who file a complaint because their account is banned, there are only two reasons: first, the gamblers don't know all the policies, and second, the gambling platform just doesn't want to do what the complaining gambler wants to happen.

[Westinhome]

In the gambling industry, we know that it is not talked about that we have to be smart to win big money in the casino or whatever. Because there is probably no casino, they will build a gambling business without knowing what they are getting into. All its owners can be said to be smart and not allow players who gamble on their platform to defeat them.

Now, if there are other players who file a complaint because their account is banned, there are only two reasons: first, the gamblers don't know all the policies, and second, the gambling platform just doesn't want to do what the complaining gambler wants to happen.

The gambling industry had the big win to their gambler in one day,but the gambler should ready to face the small losses in the game till the big win.It doesn't mean,the people who get continuous loss in the gambling will made their big win one day.The fact is anyone can win the gambling big win by their good luck in the gambling.The gambler who report of ban of account is mostly due to the mistake made by the gambler.So the gambler can’t say the ban by the gambling site because of the big win on the gambling site until he prove to us.

[Heartilly]

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

If it's properly explained by the casino, then they can slap the face of those who complaint against them.

If it's properly explained by the gambler, then the community will side to them and will wait for the casino response.

Of course, we don't want to take side right away without knowing both parties side.

[alegotardo]

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Yes, I agree with you.
I myself have read several posts about this and even commented on some of them, but I have never taken sides on a position in favor of the player or the site.
What I did in all the discussions I participated in was to express my opinion on some problems that really exist in casinos with a low reputation or otherwise unknown, as well as presenting possible solutions to resolve the problem in casinos that have a reputation.
Many casinos we respect have an exclusive topic here on bitcointalk, nothing better than exposing the problem publicly, so that the site itself can also present its contrary evidence, if the accusation is untrue.
Someone will probably leave with their reputation damaged.

[ethereumhunter]

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

If it's properly explained by the casino, then they can slap the face of those who complaint against them.

If it's properly explained by the gambler, then the community will side to them and will wait for the casino response.

Of course, we don't want to take side right away without knowing both parties side.

But we also must remember that no business owner likes one person to win more often than another. Business owners may issue new rules for those who often win a lot of money and replace them with old rules. And the casino can get the data easily because the gamblers gamble at the casino, where the casino can always find out who can win a lot of money and more often than other gamblers. We will never know unless we experience it ourselves. Then we can decide what to do. And in this case, someone was right to move to another casino because he felt the casino's service had let him down.

[STT]

Should also look to do the opposite, its a common phenomena on the internet that people are very vocal about any negatives but fail or forget to praise the common positive experience with any casino.  Especially long term, people take it for granted when a site is solid and reliable etc.  which is definitely worth praise. 
  The good sites will make a profit off just operating a long term gambling site, gambling is a profitable enterprise so a good reputation is important and regular traffic because that definitely leads to profits with that body of regular users.   It should be outside the norm for players not to be respected who are wanting to play normally.

[redsun114]

Should also look to do the opposite, its a common phenomena on the internet that people are very vocal about any negatives but fail or forget to praise the common positive experience with any casino.  Especially long term, people take it for granted when a site is solid and reliable etc.  which is definitely worth praise. 
  The good sites will make a profit off just operating a long term gambling site, gambling is a profitable enterprise so a good reputation is important and regular traffic because that definitely leads to profits with that body of regular users.   It should be outside the norm for players not to be respected who are wanting to play normally.

For those people who have a limited thought, yes. There are also people who experience the negatives only or mostly the negatives during the time they play gambling so they curse gambling just like that. We shouldn't feel bad yet because there are also people who are the exact opposite of them.

It's like they are biased and say that gambling is beneficial when the truth is they also lose a lot and sometimes get addicted on it. Gambling is about losing and winning so the view of the people should be balanced only. That will show that their mental state is still healthy and there is no need to worry about their gambling activities.

[summonerrk]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

This whole situation is aggravated by the fact that we are in the world of cryptocurrencies, and this world is inextricably linked with anonymity. We have already seen a lot of scam: profiles of non-real people on the web, which were created in order for everything to be put there in their projects, and then they disappeared. Unfortunately, this is the dark side of freedom in the world of cryptocurrencies.
Therefore, I prefer not to believe everything I read, both here on the forum, and especially in the news of influencers.

[Weawant]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Most gamblers who get banned resulting from their misconducts but probably have a history of good wins in serial oder most likely tell the story that they got banned because they won too much and of course as rightly stated by you(OP) the other side of the story which have to do with violation of the set rules and guidelines is kept back so as to gain public attention that they were unjustly banned.

But then we we get stories like this it's right we wait to get the full details of what actually happened and know were the person making the report went wrong before taking sides and passing judgements, because even the casinos and betting site know that if they should bann a client on such basis which can not be justified then they will be faced with heat from the public which is not good for business.

So Gamblers should be cautious and careful enough to read instructions if possible in-between lines so as not to violate the rules and when been punished they result to gathering public pity, most gambling sites are been regulated in their jurisdiction so they wouldn't want to be reported for such, only that most gamblers wait till they get a win and when they have issues with withdrawal they then go back to the rules which they were supposed to read earlier and think the site is a bad one, this occurs mostly with wagered bonuses.

[TheUltraElite]

This whole situation is aggravated by the fact that we are in the world of cryptocurrencies, and this world is inextricably linked with anonymity. We have already seen a lot of scam: profiles of non-real people on the web, which were created in order for everything to be put there in their projects, and then they disappeared. Unfortunately, this is the dark side of freedom in the world of cryptocurrencies.
Therefore, I prefer not to believe everything I read, both here on the forum, and especially in the news of influencers.

Casinos who have gone scam have been scam from the beginning, they got caught eventually and then the sufferers are the ones who were playing on it. Thing is that you should stick to well-repuated and old casinos before jumping into new ones. With so many of them coming up who is going to certify something as genuine or not? The forum cryptographers who are tech-savvy and are well versed with provably fair systems can help you decide in this regard.

Genuine casinos will ban users who try to exploit or cheat the system. There is nothing wrong in this and all such cases the casino gets public support.

The news of influencers should never be taken at face value, heck anything that you see or hear should be questioned and observed before accepting.

[Z390]

You are correct, I support this point to the core, people come out in the open to say things about online casinos and I have been into gambling for months now, so far I have no single issue and I am like where are this people getting all their complains from and why? I was doing some live treaming with my friends some weeks back and a friend wasn't online for like two weeks and when he came online he used a new identity, meaning he created a new account, we asked him what went wrong he said his account was block.

Later I asked him what really happened he said he didn't know and I checked his phone out and detected that he broke some rules himself, he tried to crack the companies software, and I was shocked, not until I caught him that's when he decided to tell the truth, he finally admitted that he did something wrong for them to blocked his account.

As in, be careful who you decide to back up, or you both will be blame at last, not all what people say are truth and I haven't seen where online casinos fight back when they are wrongly accused, it's always the victim, I am not saying all casinos are pure and reliable, but most people are just playing victim, they are mad for getting caught and dealt with so they decide to ruin the casinos reputation, be careful who you fight for, this is reality.

[stadus]

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

It's pretty easy to figure out if a user is telling the truth or not. Just take a good look at the reputation of the casino. If a casino has a solid reputation, we'd naturally lean towards believing them over a gambler making negative claims about the casino. Of course, this changes if the gambler can actually provide some solid proof of their accusations.

Casinos that have already built a strong reputation have a lot to lose, so they're more likely to be credible compared to someone throwing negative stories at them. Now, if you start hearing the same story from multiple gamblers, well, that's when things get a bit alarming. But until that happens, casinos keep their reputation intact.

[Oilacris]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Doesnt matter whether we do believe or not, it would really be just becoming a big issue on the time that there are really solid proofs that had been presented on the said complainant but if there's none and its just pure verbal then the community wont really be just making out some conclusions on the said casino to be shady or having that kind of doing.Its true that businesses something like this wont really be just that easily to believe on.Its true that businesses like this wont really be just making those kind of banning or blocking someone without having those valid reasons which most likely it would really be that talking about violation unless if you are dealing with known scam sites then its not shocking anymore.

The community wont really be that dumb on not to know on whats the truth but people on here dont really easily believe into those issues been thrown unless if there would really be
proofs that been provided but if there's not then the community wont really be taking it seriously and would really be just that be treated as baseless accusation.
We cant really just easily believe on what these people would be telling.

[AbuBhakar]

It's pretty easy to figure out if a user is telling the truth or not. Just take a good look at the reputation of the casino. If a casino has a solid reputation, we'd naturally lean towards believing them over a gambler making negative claims about the casino. Of course, this changes if the gambler can actually provide some solid proof of their accusations.

Casinos that have already built a strong reputation have a lot to lose, so they're more likely to be credible compared to someone throwing negative stories at them. Now, if you start hearing the same story from multiple gamblers, well, that's when things get a bit alarming. But until that happens, casinos keep their reputation intact.

Agree on your statement. Most of the casino that scamming using are just new or recently just established and later on decided to turn into scam like what happened to betnomi before. Proof on scam accusation board is very rare to become valid in every scam accusation in there since most of the scammer manipulate the evidence just to look like it’s a legit concern.

Casino earn a lot of profit by just having tons of players on the casino. Scamming few user with minimal amount doesn’t make sense for them since they can recover it easily on other losing players money.

[Blitzboy]

This whole situation is aggravated by the fact that we are in the world of cryptocurrencies, and this world is inextricably linked with anonymity. We have already seen a lot of scam: profiles of non-real people on the web, which were created in order for everything to be put there in their projects, and then they disappeared. Unfortunately, this is the dark side of freedom in the world of cryptocurrencies.
Therefore, I prefer not to believe everything I read, both here on the forum, and especially in the news of influencers.

Casinos who have gone scam have been scam from the beginning, they got caught eventually and then the sufferers are the ones who were playing on it. Thing is that you should stick to well-repuated and old casinos before jumping into new ones. With so many of them coming up who is going to certify something as genuine or not? The forum cryptographers who are tech-savvy and are well versed with provably fair systems can help you decide in this regard.

Genuine casinos will ban users who try to exploit or cheat the system. There is nothing wrong in this and all such cases the casino gets public support.

The news of influencers should never be taken at face value, heck anything that you see or hear should be questioned and observed before accepting.

You told the harsh truth there. Casinos that have lied to you? They've probably been sketchy from the start. Its like a time bomb thats just waiting for the right moment to go off. Now you said to stick to casinos with good names, and I totally agree. Its hard to find your way around with all these new casinos opening all the time. And who is our safety net in this mess? They are the tech-savvy cryptographers. But isnt it a bit of a problem to depend so much on a small group of people?

Whats the point of real casinos not letting exploiters in? Right on! They're just making sure that their method stays safe. Thats right, the web of social media is full of leaders! Always question things and never completely trust them. Like a game that never ends, every move needs to be carefully thought out. After all, being able to tell the difference becomes important in a world full of noise.

[bettercrypto]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

In my years in the crypto space, I have never seen a reputable casino in the crypto business that banned their users for no reason, not because they didn't want to give away the big winnings. Maybe that's even possible for casinos that haven't been in this business industry for a long time.

Because of the casinos that have a solid reputation, like Stakes, Duelbits, Rollbit, and others, I have never seen them do something that would damage them. If anyone has complained about the above, their accusations have not been proven here. That means, as you mentioned, it is impossible for them not to see cheating gamblers being exploited on their gambling platform. So far, the ones I mentioned can stand by their rules and policies.

[Docnaster]

We all know how people used to be protective when trying to explain how someone treated them badly, they always want to be the winner and if you are not smart you can fight the wrong war for them, later you will find out that they are the problem.

Gamblers are telling stories about how they got banned because they are winning too much, I will like to tell you not to believe everything people tell you, these stories typically have another side of the story, there is a high probability that these gamblers have broken some rules along the way.

For reputable casinos, banning players that have won a lot of money legally is bad for their business, the casinos knows that the word of the mouth spreads faster than anything, so I believe that a reputable casino do their strong research before they use their ban hammer.

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

In my years in the crypto space, I have never seen a reputable casino in the crypto business that banned their users for no reason, not because they didn't want to give away the big winnings. Maybe that's even possible for casinos that haven't been in this business industry for a long time.

Because of the casinos that have a solid reputation, like Stakes, Duelbits, Rollbit, and others, I have never seen them do something that would damage them. If anyone has complained about the above, their accusations have not been proven here. That means, as you mentioned, it is impossible for them not to see cheating gamblers being exploited on their gambling platform. So far, the ones I mentioned can stand by their rules and policies.

I've come to notice something that many of us have been ignorant of when it comes to gamblers and some of the fairytale stories they tell about some Casino companies.
Some of them who does come up with the stories of Casino companies banning them after huge winnings aren't factual with those stories. They lie to people around them in attempt to cover up after losing a lot of their money. They tell these lies in other not for people to see them as senseless people who's lost all their money in casinos. So before you think ill of any casino company they told you banned them, try to find out if their claims are true.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Before you take sides with gamblers claiming they get banned for winning too much, remember that casinos are good at monitoring and preventing fraudulent behaviors, you break some rules you are out, and no cheater want to admit that they cheat.

Many gamblers have the experience of getting banned and the next thing that comes to their mind was the injustice from the gambling platform, they wouldn't want to pay attention to the areas where they are also missing out, all the wrong steps they have also taken and the rate of what they have done in violation of their rules, all they will be shouting is for being banned, the casino is scam and they go ahead to report for scam accusation without mentioning their own side at fault.