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October 03, 2023, 08:15:29 PM
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Not sure if "reliable" is the right word for this. You still see inaccurate information from time to time especially from those with bad activity:merit ratios. What's great is just the fact that if someone would provide inaccurate information, someone could immediately correct said inaccurate information.
One of the main things on why this forum to be great is that when it comes on validating such information, there's always those people that will verify things whethers its
real or not and because of those thing then you could really be able to assess whether you should avoid it or not. When it comes to information then there's
no doubt that this forum does almost have it all, just be careful though with fake information and scams which arent moderated on this forum
on which it is really just that right on being that careful.

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October 03, 2023, 08:22:39 PM
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I would love to know if there is any other Bitcoin related forum where can spend more useful time than here. Because in my knowledge there is none. But if there is then it will be a big favor from you. thanks in advance.
Hugeblack recommended https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/ as a more reliable source of information.

I've used it and while there are great pieces of information to be gotten from there and the forum is designed to show the best replies at the top, I will still pick this forum over it.
Bitcointalk has the discussion feel that many other forums are lacking and it still has one of the greatest resource for Bitcoin related knowledge and it's an extra bonus that Satoshi created it.

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October 03, 2023, 09:16:22 PM
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Tech Geeks
BitcoinTalk has some tech geeks who exclusively write their posts to help people in every other way. Of course, Bitcointalk also has average users like me. Since this forum is one of the oldest on the internet, thousands of articles were written almost decades ago,

This is not accurate. There are forums[1] in which you can obtain more detailed information and better answers, but this forum remains a place to share your ideas, no matter how stupid they are, and to obtain information with some degree of validity. For example, if you ask a question in some local boards or altcoins board, you may not get a correct answer


Why are you unlikely to be publicly scammed?
I consider Bitcointalk as one of the safest forums on the internet. The internet is full of scammers, and Bitcointalk is not without scammers. There are scammers, but you are unlikely to get scammed if you talk in public.

This is related to the economy of signature campaigns. I will not scam you for $500 because my account can generate an income of $800 per month, but whenever the signature campaigns stop, you will find legendary members scamming for $200, and the truest example of this is @yogg[2] Cold Keys scam[3]

[1] https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827
[3] My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!



This is very true. I have been offered 1 and or 2 btc for this account more than once.

About 5,000 to 35,000 usd when the offers were made.

I am fortunate that I have no need or want to sell this account. But I am sure some legends have done so.

They may have got into a bind gambling or whatever else and decided to sell the account or do a scam.

Most of us humans  won’t steal if we have a good thing going.
Some of us humans will steal if we are in a bad financial spot.

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October 03, 2023, 09:19:00 PM
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The Bitcointalk forum and every platform have newbies, spammers and shitposters. Now, I want to say that if you compare Bitcointalk with other available platforms, surely Bitcointalk is more reliable. On most platforms, someone posts and leaves. They rarely come back and follow their previous comment.
I really agree with you if you compare bitcointalk with other bitcoin discussion forum that are its competitors. I don't remember how many minutes I have spent browsing altcointalk forum or other bitcoin discussion forum - but I can say some of my time has been spent on bitcointalk since I was a beginner.

Of course bitcointalk is more reliable - but not all the information provided by the author of the post can be considered correct if you do not equip yourself with knowledge. Some information can sometimes be misleading - so you should know how to verify its correctness.

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October 03, 2023, 11:21:51 PM
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Feel free to add why you think Bitcointalk is a reliable source!

Yeah you are right and I agree with you to some extent but yeah bitcoin talk is a reliable source of information and now I am adding some more to your topic. As we all know bitcoin is a large active community that has approximately 3 million users so the information that is shared here is reliable and well explained, Most people are here knowledgeable and experienced and they are willing to guide others also this community has a stronger system of modration whose works to protect the community from scammers and removing any wrong information shared by any users. But If we look to the other side there are thousands of shitposters and spammers here who question the reliability of this forūm.  If you take my opinion then I suggest that you just take the information from the persons who have a large number of + trusts these people are well knowledgeable and have more experienced and you can easily trust their information but remember no knowledge/information is perfect so you have to check it with your selves.
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October 04, 2023, 11:53:01 AM
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This is related to the economy of signature campaigns. I will not scam you for $500 because my account can generate an income of $800 per month, but whenever the signature campaigns stop, you will find legendary members scamming for $200, and the truest example of this is @yogg[2] Cold Keys scam[3]

This is true. Now we know some positive sides of the signature campaigns as well. People usually have a bad idea of the signature campaign because it generates spam all over the forum. When someone scams others for $200, they do not care about their reputation anymore because they know they cannot make money with this account anymore.

If we talk about the forum you mentioned, I have checked it, and it does not look good. I don't know why. Most questions had one answer, and some others had no answers. I guess it's not that much crowded.

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October 04, 2023, 07:31:54 PM
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This is related to the economy of signature campaigns. I will not scam you for $500 because my account can generate an income of $800 per month, but whenever the signature campaigns stop, you will find legendary members scamming for $200, and the truest example of this is @yogg[2] Cold Keys scam[3]

This is true. Now we know some positive sides of the signature campaigns as well. People usually have a bad idea of the signature campaign because it generates spam all over the forum. When someone scams others for $200, they do not care about their reputation anymore because they know they cannot make money with this account anymore.

If we talk about the forum you mentioned, I have checked it, and it does not look good. I don't know why. Most questions had one answer, and some others had no answers. I guess it's not that much crowded.

THAT may be the best post in the entire thread. The idea that if your account has a value you won't be as likely to scam is true and simple but accurate.

Here is a guy that tried to scam today

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469209.msg62945083#msg62945083

the op is a 0 merit 1 post newbie with nothing to lose if he pulls his scam off.

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October 04, 2023, 10:40:14 PM
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I guess this is your first forum, I mean you're not quite active or spend more time to explore on the other forums e.g. reddit, quora, etc. The reason why many users aren't a scammer is they risking something which is signature campaign, if the forum has no signature campaign, I expect it's nothing different with other forums.

I disagree. Signature campaigns has its advantages but I don’t think it’s the reason why users aren’t scamming. It’s like saying there are no decent jobs out there and that’s why scammers do what they do. In my opinion Bitcointalk has a low level of scam because the forum has a structure based on rank and trust ratings, in order to pull a scam successfully in this forum you would need to have a good rank and reputation. Those two do not come easy. It’s x10 harder to scam on btt than on reddit or other platforms.

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October 04, 2023, 11:55:37 PM
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Why are you unlikely to be publicly scammed?
I consider Bitcointalk as one of the safest forums on the internet. The internet is full of scammers, and Bitcointalk is not without scammers. There are scammers, but you are unlikely to get scammed if you talk in public.

This is related to the economy of signature campaigns. I will not scam you for $500 because my account can generate an income of $800 per month, but whenever the signature campaigns stop, you will find legendary members scamming for $200, and the truest example of this is @yogg[2] Cold Keys scam[3]

[1] https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827
[3] My Cold Keys Just Got Swiped! All Cold Kuntz!
@yogg is an example of a bad guy who committed organized fraud through Cold Key distribution.
He even made tens of thousands of dollars in profit from his scam and threw away his Legendary account which could have made him $800 per month.

People tagged him as a scammer and this will prevent others from being scammed again.
But the impact it had on many people's finances was disruptive.

The forum exposed all of his crimes, even though those who seemed very trustworthy turned out to be professional scammers. 


 
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October 05, 2023, 09:56:29 AM
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I disagree. Signature campaigns has its advantages but I don’t think it’s the reason why users aren’t scamming. It’s like saying there are no decent jobs out there and that’s why scammers do what they do. In my opinion Bitcointalk has a low level of scam because the forum has a structure based on rank and trust ratings, in order to pull a scam successfully in this forum you would need to have a good rank and reputation. Those two do not come easy. It’s x10 harder to scam on btt than on reddit or other platforms.

Scammers will scam people even right before the end of this world. Even if they know that everything is going to be destroyed, they will scam others if they get a chance. I do agree that the signature campaign has an advantage, and it is one of the reasons why some potential scammers still did not scam anyone. You will see loan defaulters here from time to time. One of the lenders is "shasan" who got scammed by a bunch of high ranked scammers. It's because they were kicked out of the signature campaign and they were unable to make money from this forum anymore. Since they were unable to make money, they think the account does not have value anymore therefore they decided to scam him.

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October 05, 2023, 10:13:39 PM
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I guess this is your first forum, I mean you're not quite active or spend more time to explore on the other forums e.g. reddit, quora, etc. The reason why many users aren't a scammer is they risking something which is signature campaign, if the forum has no signature campaign, I expect it's nothing different with other forums.

Why some are already disagreeing with you, I have to agree with you from your perspective of reasoning. The major reason people are not scamming is because of signature campaigns of the forum. I wanted to hastly disagree with you, but on a second thought I decided to agree with you.
I have seen where a member of the forum who was in Royse777 campaign with a snr member account defaulted shaan loan of about 120 dollars and the account was tagged. People greatly blamed the loan defaulter that if he was patient, he could pay the loan with 2weeks campaign pay and still not have his account ruined. If there was no signature campaigns, scam would have been much here in the forum.

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October 05, 2023, 11:25:31 PM
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I'd agree if you say we've got tech geeks in here, buh that's also another motivation - it's either gonna create some kinda exposure to peeps and could possibly make them develop interest in programming/coding, or it'd help the enhancement of the forum's website domain....doesn't mean it'll guide against meagre scams..
The supposed impartial forum has tolerated so many projects without proper scrutiny... I think that's Also a great factor to oppose your motion.

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October 06, 2023, 03:30:01 PM
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Why are you unlikely to be publicly scammed?
I consider Bitcointalk as one of the safest forums on the internet. The internet is full of scammers, and Bitcointalk is not without scammers. There are scammers, but you are unlikely to get scammed if you talk in public. Remember, scams are not moderated in this forum. Bitcointalk members are unlikely to scam a random person publicly because others will immediately try to save you from fraud (if they notice).
Forum members are constantly looking out for each other, and newbies are always advised to be careful of the kind of private messages they respond to especially after creating topics asking for some sort of help or assistance.

Help is usually offered publicly in this forum, so that it helps another person as it helps you.

Why it's reliable?
Many users on the forum possess vast knowledge and experience, and have no linking or relationship asides this forum that has become a meet place for everyone. If many users give the same answer to a question you ask, you can trust the information as reliable and correct.

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October 07, 2023, 05:06:13 AM
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I agree with the majority opinion that here you can get complete knowledge and more accurate information. Knowing how easy it is nowadays to create websites and write on them whatever the owner likes without proving his level of knowledge, trusting other sources is sometimes very problematic. I don’t trust Google Search because I consider it very corrupt and aimed only at money, but I think getting information from the forum is the correct thing to do. In addition, after spending a long time on the forum, the nicknames of many users are so familiar that trusting the posts of people you read every day is safer for me than reading information from strangers on the Internet.

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October 07, 2023, 05:59:54 AM
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One of the reasons is reputation. Bitcointalk has designed the reputation system very well. The users build their reputation over time by helping others, writing helpful topics/posts, and trading with others.

I am yet to see rep given for topics/helping others, almost all comes solely from trading with others, that's why some don't have any just because they don't trade. Feel free to show me rep given for former examples so I come out of my ignorance.

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October 07, 2023, 07:09:14 AM
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I wouldn't go so far as say that, if you talk about being a source of news, it's as reliable as the links that they've got to share the news to the forum. If you're talking about experiences, it isn't a reliable source because experience per person varies and if you're talking about information, you have to sift through all the opinions and information that the other people share regarding a specific topic so in a way, picking out what's correct and wrong just to get an information, I don't think that you can call that a reliable source. But one thing that I can say to you is that BCT is a reliable forum when you want to expand your knowledge and sharpen your critical thinking skills.



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October 07, 2023, 10:11:40 AM
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after spending a long time on the forum, the nicknames of many users are so familiar that trusting the posts of people you read every day is safer for me than reading information from strangers on the Internet.

Yes, this is exactly why I mentioned the option reputation. Some of you guys have been around and contributed to this forum for a long time. Those forum members are unlikely to give incorrect information unless it's an honest mistake or misunderstanding. I have followed a lot of YouTube videos before and ended up messing up my system. The very recent incident happened last night. I was trying to set up Fedora workstation 38 with Windows dual boot. I ended up corrupting my Windows files, and I had to format my drives. I have lost my PGP key backups and many other important files. I was lucky that I had stored my electrum keys offline. Otherwise, I could have lost thousands of dollars.

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October 07, 2023, 10:37:10 AM
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.Bitcointalk users want to build up their reputation in every possible way. So, most of their intention to help is genuine.
Eish! I so wanna agree you with you on this line but nah, I can't. Not everyone is all about rep here and it helps that this a forum where everyone is anonymous so I can scam and get away with it without you calling the cops on me, right? I mean, whats the biggest punishment one can get for being a scammer? A couple of red tags? Gee, the user could get tired of having that many red colors on his profile and decide to get another one.


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October 07, 2023, 10:48:30 AM
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Bitcoin is actually trusted forum on the internet where no information goes to the public very easily.Bitcoin is not Cryptocurrency trust system no doubt but 100% maybe for Bitcoin not a reliable source as there are many members here who have not come here with faith, but the information here is not saved.Yes, it is true that there is a less chance of overt cheating.This forum is trusted since its inception, otherwise no one would be able to say it is a trusted place until later because that capability is what created the forum.
The bottom line is that nothing is permanently trusted, but many things are partially trusted one of them is Bitcoin, but action is the actual thing by doing you will build trust and people will see.But we can consider Bitcoin as a reliable source.
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October 07, 2023, 11:21:23 AM
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You are making things up extremely man.

Bitcointalk is a great forum with many Bitcoin developers and technical experts but in this forum, there are newbies, spammers, shitposters and trollers too. Everyone who visit as a guest or use this forum as a member must verify information they read.

They can not assume and believe all information they read here is reliable and correct.

This is why Bitcointalk stands out from the rest of other social media platforms. Every media has all these set of people as well but the unique nature of Forum makes it possible for one to identify each category of users with the help of trust system. By checking the trust summary, one could see shitposter, spammer or troller as the case may be in the majority of profiles capable of doing that. Other medias do not have that feature.

In any social setting, bad people can not be completely flush out and Forum is not excluded from this menace but Forum is trying to limit and minimize this by having moderators in almost all the section of the forum to check mate the activities going on and get rid of perceived suspicious activities.

Yes, the information you get here is strictly on each individual perspective and some are likely to be inaccurate. It's left for the reader to chose the one to hold onto as it apply to their problem.

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