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October 03, 2023, 01:52:13 AM
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After that devastating loss to Tank Davis, Ryan Garcia will be back in action tentatively on December 2 against Oscar Duarte.

The fight will be @140lbs, so i think Garcia is comfortable at this weight and hoping he will bounce back strong.

Oscar Duarte has an impressive record of 26-1-1, with 21 of his opponents got KOed so i think he is a live opponent for Garcia.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-oscar-duarte-set-december-2-san-antonio--178184

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October 03, 2023, 09:59:59 AM
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I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).

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October 03, 2023, 11:04:12 AM
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Ok, so this is his opponent, I read from last week that they will have a new opponent for him but I must admit that his name doesn't sound anything to me. Maybe he had as good record of sort and climbing in the ranks. But I guess this is just a tune up for Ryan, just to get his mind going and forget about his lost to Tank Davis.

Just remember though that he is under Derrick James and he has back to back loses from big fights, Spence and Charlo.

Perhaps this could be redemption time for Ryan and for his trainer/coach as well.

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October 03, 2023, 11:17:34 AM
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Another tough fight for Ryan Garcia.
Oscar Duarte is a power puncher too. His last 11 fights are either KO or TKO. I think Ryan will need a big preparation before he battles this man.
34 years old against 25 years old, a large gap in age but I don't think it will matter for the older boxer because he had been putting his opponents down in the mat.

But if Ryan Garcia can win this, he will get his name back on track.
It's true, I think this is the weight that he is more confident in and the perfect one for him. 140 lbs. Defeating Duarte might shoot his rank up and give him a chance for a title match in his next few fights. But he needs to win again.

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October 03, 2023, 11:23:47 AM
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Ok, so this is his opponent, I read from last week that they will have a new opponent for him but I must admit that his name doesn't sound anything to me. Maybe he had as good record of sort and climbing in the ranks. But I guess this is just a tune up for Ryan, just to get his mind going and forget about his lost to Tank Davis.

Just remember though that he is under Derrick James and he has back to back loses from big fights, Spence and Charlo.

Perhaps this could be redemption time for Ryan and for his trainer/coach as well.

Ryan Garcia needs to redeem himself and this could be the fight that will put him back in the spotlight fighting a boxer with a good record even though an unknown one, I've checked his highlights and record 10 straight knockouts, although his opponents are all unknown if you're a decent fighter with a decent power its easy to inflate your records fighting so so boxers, unfortunately for Duarte, this could be an end to achieving knockouts as Ryan is a hungry fighter now and a more experience now, Ryan needs an impressive win short of a knockout so he can continue his journey, a loss could be the end of his journey.

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October 03, 2023, 11:32:25 AM
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The fight will be @140lbs, so i think Garcia is comfortable at this weight
He probably is since it's less weight cut unlike his previous fight with Tank. Is there a stipulation that would physically affect fighters like the rehydration clause? I hope not so both of them could be at their potential best come fight night.

It would be nice to get in as soon as possible as I think Garcia would open up a slight favorite but that could quickly change making Duarte a huge underdog.
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October 03, 2023, 12:16:04 PM
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Oscar Duarte has an impressive record of 26-1-1, with 21 of his opponents got KOed so i think he is a live opponent for Garcia.

Pretty good record but not convincing enough to challenge Ryan's power and speed, Duarte was never challenged because he has fought patsies who just stand there to get hit but still the kind of guy Ryan needs for a good come back his current trainer Derrick James has a 0-2 big fights just this year, I hope he will not carry Garcia down.

Garcia needs to impress the boxing community and he needs a knockout to get him back on track there are too many good prospects in the 140, Prograis. Romero and Lopez are fighters who can give a good fight he needs to win this before he can dare these fighters to face him, of course, you need something to brag about before challenging champions.

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October 03, 2023, 12:38:51 PM
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The fight will be @140lbs, so i think Garcia is comfortable at this weight
He probably is since it's less weight cut unlike his previous fight with Tank. Is there a stipulation that would physically affect fighters like the rehydration clause? I hope not so both of them could be at their potential best come fight night.

It would be nice to get in as soon as possible as I think Garcia would open up a slight favorite but that could quickly change making Duarte a huge underdog.
I don't think that there is such stipulation in this fight. Ryan Garcia is the A-side here, if there is one that will put this kind of ridiculous clause it will be him. But I doubt that he will do that because he doesn't want the boxing community that he won because of this rehydration clause.

So it's a straight up 140 lbs limit and then they can rehydrate both to maybe as high as 150 lbs during the fight night and nothing will change. But I do agree that it's a tough fight for him. But Ryan should take care of Duarte here, and hopefully the experience he got from the Davis fight is good enough for him to overcome adversaries if there will be one in this fight.

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October 03, 2023, 01:20:36 PM
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Finally, a fighter who matches the style of Ryan Garcia. When Garcia fought Tank Davis, he showed his limitations to the public. With his opponent Oscar Duarte, I think he'll be able to match up well, and most likely, he will dominate again.

I hope to see him bounce back, as it was reported before his fight with Tank Davis that he had faced a mental problem. Maybe that problem came back when he was defeated via KO by Tank Davis. So, this upcoming fight of his is really interesting, as we will find out if he is still the same guy.

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October 03, 2023, 01:40:10 PM
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Honestly, this looks like a hard fight for Ryan Garcia because, after his loss to Davis, he really needs to train even more and go into intensive training so that next time he won't have any problem taking huge power punches from his opponent. especially when you need to fight someone with this record and with that knockout percentage, surely he will take some knockout punches and he surely needs to tank a couple of those, or else he will suffer the same fate as he suffered on Davis before.

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October 03, 2023, 01:58:55 PM
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It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.

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October 03, 2023, 08:51:29 PM
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I'm not too familiar with Duarte but his record looks good. He's fought decent opponents and has a high knockout percentage. He is coming off a knockout loss so I don't consider this a cherry pick. They could have chosen someone with more losses and less power. This is the kind of test that Ryan Garcia needs before he can fight another champion. There's no doubt Garcia will be the favorite but if the odds are too lopsided that it isn't very profitable to bet on him then it becomes really tempting to pick the underdog.

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October 03, 2023, 09:01:17 PM
Last edit: October 03, 2023, 09:15:48 PM by AmoreJaz
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It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.


garcia should not take this fight for granted even if it seems cherry-picked. he needs to finish the fight as soon as possible. even if the name of duarte is not that popular, but it seems that his record is a good one. if upset will happen on this one, garcia would have hard time finding the next good fight for him. duarte has high percentage of KO wins as well. so for me, this is no easy fight for garcia.

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October 03, 2023, 09:29:26 PM
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I went through the record of his opponent, and I find it very impressive.

After his first loss in 2019 against Adrian Estrella, he was already on a winning streak until May 2023. I find this impressive because all of his wins did not go to the judges' scorecards, meaning this boxer has power, which I think would really match Ryan Garcia.

Judging by his record and Ryan's, I expect that this fight is going to be a war, a toe-to-toe battle where only one man is left standing in the end. A KO is likely to happen, and as for who would win, I don't know, but most likely it's Ryan (hopefully).
Wow, that's an impressive record to be honest, he may not be known but likely he wants to be known and that's his job if he can take down Garcia. I know Garcia will be the favorite here but it's a tough job for Garcia as well in my opinion considering his lost to Davis would still have that effect on how he fights now. Well, I think Garcia may need to bounce back but I guess I'll favor with Duarte in this fight.
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For those who said that Oscar Duarte's record is impressive, yes it is. But you have to take a look at the quality of his opponents. His fights are mostly in Mexico, and most of his opponents have worst win-lost records. So obviously what he face in Mexico is what other boxing pundits call "cab drivers". They are pitted against Duarte to pad his record and to look like he is really have that kind of power. So for me, this is win-win situation for Ryan, in paper his opponents looks like a knockout artist, but I'm seeing that Ryan will win here by an impressive knockout and bring back his confidence again in the ring. This seems to be just a tune up and cherry pick fight, obviously, after that devastating lost to Tank Davis, he will have to start from scratch and restore his self-esteem again to be called "King" Ry.

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With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

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October 04, 2023, 02:51:39 AM
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With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

That is true, although the pressure if not that high if he is facing a fighter like the caliber of Oscar Duarte. No offense to Oscar, his record is very impressive at 26-1-1 with 21 coming via knockout. But I do agree with the observation of others, this is a cherry pick fight and hopefully it will not turn bad to Ryan Garcia otherwise it might take years to recover if he losses to someone like a B-fighter in Duarte. And who knows, maybe if he losses here then he could go on another depression and mental struggles and perhaps this time it will be hard for him to overcome it. I'm seeing another Campbell fight for Ryan, he might struggle a bit but once he found his range he could score a lightning fast knockout, maybe rounds 5-8. And I'm seeing here Ryan to be the outstanding favorite regardless of what record Oscar Duarte has.

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With all the hype surrounding Ryan Garcia and his last embarrassing loss to Tank Davis, the pressure is definitely on him to rebound and get himself a big win. Two losses in a row for a guy that everyone was claiming was going to be the next great thing would be pretty bad for his career. Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.

He may have been marketed as the next big thing but most fans are well aware of his limitations. The hype surrounding him is based more on his popularity than his talent. Golden Boy is going to match him carefully until they can cash out on him right before his contract expires. It'll be interesting to see if he can win impressively and remain a PPV attraction or if he will get exposed by one of these fringe contenders like Duarte before he is even able to challenge another champion.

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The complete name is Oscar Duarte Jurado. I think it's Jurado and not Duarte that's his family name.

I like the new opponent of Ryan Garcia. Even though he is not really one of the stars at 140, he has a good record. Garcia is definitely his biggest fight but it looks like he's well prepared for it. He has been doing good in his professional career. His only loss was even just a split decision. It could be given to him. So he's almost undefeated.

But I'm surprised when I checked the early odds at oddschecker. Garcia is 1.17 favorite and Jurado is 5.0 underdog. I might risk my money with Jurado.
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It's a cherry-picked fight, Ryan's promotion is good in picking the right opponent, and a good record but is beatable by Garcia, they need to get Ryan on top again he holds the best record in PPV, and he is still a crowd drawer even though he has no legitimate title in his name.

Ryan has everything the social media king, a crowd drawer but his team failed to convert his success in boxing, I have doubts about Derrick James' as a trainer two successive losses in a big fight are not good in Ryan's campaign.

I'm sure he will beat Duarte but he needs to show something different, we need a hungry and obsessive Ryan and hopefully we'll see it in this fight.

Right, Ryan Garcia is a social media darling and a PPV drawer so an opponent with a record like that of Duarte is what they need to at least draw some hype on his next fight.

But mind you, this Duarte is not a pushover compared to some of Ryan Garcia's opponent and i think they would evaluate Duarte furthermore to see if he is a right opponent for Garcia's comeback fight and if there assessment he is a risk then they would cancel this plan, they have done this a few times already and i would not be surprised if one day Team Garcia would announce that he has having this mental issues once again thus cancelling the fight hehe.

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