[Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2)

[lionheart78]

Another not so good message thrown by Oscar is that Ryan might not be in a good mental state again with his recent statements and reactions to Bernard. Duarte after this weigh in is now 4:1 underdog.

I watched Duarte's highlight fights and I see his performance is quite good, I like how he keeps up his defensive stance even when throwing punches his mannerism of having his hand right back on guard after the punches may be the key for this fight to keep him going. unless Ryan Garcia timed him well and hit him on the bucket.  If I had the fund I would go with Duarte on this one, who knows, upset happens and the 4:1 odds is really tempting. 

Btw, Duarte loss is from a split decision so this guy had never been KO'ed in his career.  So we might say that the guy is tough and this toughness will be tested in this coming fight against Ryan Garcia.

[Yaunfitda]

Another not so good message thrown by Oscar is that Ryan might not be in a good mental state again with his recent statements and reactions to Bernard. Duarte after this weigh in is now 4:1 underdog.

I watched Duarte's highlight fights and I see his performance is quite good, I like how he keeps up his defensive stance even when throwing punches his mannerism of having his hand right back on guard after the punches may be the key for this fight to keep him going. unless Ryan Garcia timed him well and hit him on the bucket.  If I had the fund I would go with Duarte on this one, who knows, upset happens and the 4:1 odds is really tempting. 

Btw, Duarte loss is from a split decision so this guy had never been KO'ed in his career.  So we might say that the guy is tough and this toughness will be tested in this coming fight against Ryan Garcia.

Yes, when I see the odds and the face-off, I want to think that Duarte might have a chance against Ryan. I mean the dude is also big, and they have almost the same height and it seems that Ryan Garcia is really pissed with GBP and so this might have to play in his mind in this fight.

But let's see, I haven't put any bet yet, as you have said it's very appealing for bettors who love to go with the undercard.

Duarte possessed a knockout power and who knows, maybe just one big punch will do it for him and put Garcia on the matt never to stand up.

[inthelongrun]

Ryan Garcia talking about wanting to become a world champion yet here is another issue with him not making the 140 limit. Luckily this is not a title fight and he is cherry-picking a 135 fighter. Duarte looked bigger than Ryan but let's not get misled that this guy is not used to fighting in this weight. So Duarte might be slower and at the same time not used to getting hit by opponents at this weight. No wonder the odds are nearing x4 already on Duarte. I'm just hoping Duarte can take Ryan's power punches so he can go near and unleash his power punches.

[btc_angela]

Ryan Garcia talking about wanting to become a world champion yet here is another issue with him not making the 140 limit. Luckily this is not a title fight and he is cherry-picking a 135 fighter. Duarte looked bigger than Ryan but let's not get misled that this guy is not used to fighting in this weight. So Duarte might be slower and at the same time not used to getting hit by opponents at this weight. No wonder the odds are nearing x4 already on Duarte. I'm just hoping Duarte can take Ryan's power punches so he can go near and unleash his power punches.

Yes, we will have to see both sides, Ryan's fighter carrying to 140 lbs or not or if he can take the power of Duarte. And this is Ryan supposedly first fight at 140 lbs although both are over the weight class limit. Duarte is huge no doubt about it, but we will question if he can used that power and if Ryan chin can hold with that power.

The odds though, Duarte being a huge underdog, personally, I might skip this one and probably just watch it for fun.

As for Ryan vs his boss, it's understood by now, once that contract is up, he will go and shop for other promoter, I reckon it could be just Match Room or Premier Boxing Champions of, how you call him? Al Hymen? 

[Kemarit]

Ryan Garcia talking about wanting to become a world champion yet here is another issue with him not making the 140 limit. Luckily this is not a title fight and he is cherry-picking a 135 fighter. Duarte looked bigger than Ryan but let's not get misled that this guy is not used to fighting in this weight. So Duarte might be slower and at the same time not used to getting hit by opponents at this weight. No wonder the odds are nearing x4 already on Duarte. I'm just hoping Duarte can take Ryan's power punches so he can go near and unleash his power punches.

I'm thinking that both of this 2 fighters doesn't have the intention to make that 140 lbs weight limit. I do agree that Duarte is somewhat the bigger fighter based on their physical body as he looks more dense that Ryan Garcia.

I was surprised that the bookmakers put Duarte at 4:1 underdog against Ryan. For sure they know something after the weight-in. So obviously, this is a cherry pick for Ryan just to be comfortable at 140 lbs. But still very interesting how Ryan chin will react. As I think that Duarte will go head hunting from the very first round to really put pressure on Ryan and test if he is ready from those power bombs.

[Maslate]

I was surprised that the bookmakers put Duarte at 4:1 underdog against Ryan. For sure they know something after the weight-in. So obviously, this is a cherry pick for Ryan just to be comfortable at 140 lbs. But still very interesting how Ryan chin will react. As I think that Duarte will go head hunting from the very first round to really put pressure on Ryan and test if he is ready from those power bombs.

That odds hasn't change from the start I guess. Well, personally I'm not surprise with the odds as Ryan Garcia is still considered as a superstar in boxing while Duarte hasn't created a name yet in boxing, maybe after he'll beat Garcia, but that would be a tough job for him, but let's see.

It's a great challenge for Garcia, proving to the fans that he's back and he is still mentally healthy after losing a big fight, so just like most of us here, I'm excited to withness this fight and I'm rooting for King Ry to win via KO.

[inthelongrun]

Ryan Garcia talking about wanting to become a world champion yet here is another issue with him not making the 140 limit. Luckily this is not a title fight and he is cherry-picking a 135 fighter. Duarte looked bigger than Ryan but let's not get misled that this guy is not used to fighting in this weight. So Duarte might be slower and at the same time not used to getting hit by opponents at this weight. No wonder the odds are nearing x4 already on Duarte. I'm just hoping Duarte can take Ryan's power punches so he can go near and unleash his power punches.

Yes, we will have to see both sides, Ryan's fighter carrying to 140 lbs or not or if he can take the power of Duarte. And this is Ryan supposedly first fight at 140 lbs although both are over the weight class limit. Duarte is huge no doubt about it, but we will question if he can used that power and if Ryan chin can hold with that power.

The odds though, Duarte being a huge underdog, personally, I might skip this one and probably just watch it for fun.

As for Ryan vs his boss, it's understood by now, once that contract is up, he will go and shop for other promoter, I reckon it could be just Match Room or Premier Boxing Champions of, how you call him? Al Hymen? 

This is supposedly Ryan's 3rd fight in the division. He moved up in weight probably after suffering his first career knockdown against Luke Campbell. So it's a valid reason for moving up in weight to make him stronger and more comfortable.

I think Duarte has real power even if he only came from 135. The only question however is if he can manage to pin Ryan and corner him in the ropes. Ryan is more comfortable in this weight so he will be faster. And it will only bring disaster on Duarte if he becomes very slow at this 143 catchweight.

Yeah, Al Hymen will try to take Ryan in the PBC umbrella. But if Ryan is all about money then I guess he'll be in Matchroom because it has the deepest budget in boxing and a chance for the WBC belt which is held by Prograis. Al Hymen however can tempt Ryan by assuring him a fight against the undeserving and weakest champion in the division, Rolly Romero. I still see Top Rank as having the best talents in the division but Ryan may not like it as it will only bring disaster to his career.

I'm thinking that both of this 2 fighters doesn't have the intention to make that 140 lbs weight limit. I do agree that Duarte is somewhat the bigger fighter based on their physical body as he looks more dense that Ryan Garcia.

I was surprised that the bookmakers put Duarte at 4:1 underdog against Ryan. For sure they know something after the weight-in. So obviously, this is a cherry pick for Ryan just to be comfortable at 140 lbs. But still very interesting how Ryan chin will react. As I think that Duarte will go head hunting from the very first round to really put pressure on Ryan and test if he is ready from those power bombs.

Yeah, I think Duarte is a little underrated with that odds here. But maybe it's the bettors' money that moved the odds. Ryan has a huge fan base so it's possible.

Although it happened at 135, it's still possible that Ryan can be dropped when hit hard in the chin and the body. So Duarte has to go to the body more often than just headhunting. But before that, Duarte has to show at least decent speed or he can corner Ryan, then use his strength and turn the fight into a brawl. Ryan is trained by James so I expect him to become more faster and will try to box in the outside.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I was surprised that the bookmakers put Duarte at 4:1 underdog against Ryan. For sure they know something after the weight-in. So obviously, this is a cherry pick for Ryan just to be comfortable at 140 lbs. But still very interesting how Ryan chin will react. As I think that Duarte will go head hunting from the very first round to really put pressure on Ryan and test if he is ready from those power bombs.

That odds hasn't change from the start I guess. Well, personally I'm not surprise with the odds as Ryan Garcia is still considered as a superstar in boxing while Duarte hasn't created a name yet in boxing, maybe after he'll beat Garcia, but that would be a tough job for him, but let's see.

It's a great challenge for Garcia, proving to the fans that he's back and he is still mentally healthy after losing a big fight, so just like most of us here, I'm excited to withness this fight and I'm rooting for King Ry to win via KO.

I think the odds started 5:1 Duarte underdog, now it's 4:1. But I'm looking at the over and under rounds, I think this will be a good and 'safe' bet. I'm look at Duarte's win and although he has the power, I see some vulnerabilities and that is he is open for the left hook.

And we know that Ryan's best weapons is his left hook. So I don't think that this fight is going to distance. It will be under 8.5 in my opinion and Ryan winning by stoppage or by a brutal left hook.

[coin-investor]

And we know that Ryan's best weapons is his left hook. So I don't think that this fight is going to distance. It will be under 8.5 in my opinion and Ryan winning by stoppage or by a brutal left hook.

Ryan lives and dies with his left hook we have seen it in all his past fights, It is just unfortunate that Gervonta does not want to open for that left hook he is fully aware that the left hook will unload anytime because that was Ryan Garcia's best weapon.

Now if Duarte did his assignment and was fully prepared to counter that left hook then we have a fight and Ryan needs to improvise or change his plan, that has been Ryan's weakness he has no alternate plan when his left hook cannot deliver he has no other course of action.

Another of Ryan's weaknesses is his poor defense, the counter can easily get in, but anyway, Duarte is not Gervonta who is a veteran of tough fights and a thinking fighter, something that cannot be said of Duarte.

[AmoreJaz]

And we know that Ryan's best weapons is his left hook. So I don't think that this fight is going to distance. It will be under 8.5 in my opinion and Ryan winning by stoppage or by a brutal left hook.

Ryan lives and dies with his left hook we have seen it in all his past fights, It is just unfortunate that Gervonta does not want to open for that left hook he is fully aware that the left hook will unload anytime because that was Ryan Garcia's best weapon.

Now if Duarte did his assignment and was fully prepared to counter that left hook then we have a fight and Ryan needs to improvise or change his plan, that has been Ryan's weakness he has no alternate plan when his left hook cannot deliver he has no other course of action.

Another of Ryan's weaknesses is his poor defense, the counter can easily get in, but anyway, Duarte is not Gervonta who is a veteran of tough fights and a thinking fighter, something that cannot be said of Duarte.

with duarte's record, ryan should have alternative plans other than throwing his left hook because for sure duarte's camp will do their research. they won't go inside the ring without checking his past history and look for his weaknesses.
garcia's name may be more familiar over duarte but am not totally convinced about the odds given to duarte. an upset may possibly happen on this match.

[cabron]

And we know that Ryan's best weapons is his left hook. So I don't think that this fight is going to distance. It will be under 8.5 in my opinion and Ryan winning by stoppage or by a brutal left hook.

Ryan lives and dies with his left hook we have seen it in all his past fights, It is just unfortunate that Gervonta does not want to open for that left hook he is fully aware that the left hook will unload anytime because that was Ryan Garcia's best weapon.

Now if Duarte did his assignment and was fully prepared to counter that left hook then we have a fight and Ryan needs to improvise or change his plan, that has been Ryan's weakness he has no alternate plan when his left hook cannot deliver he has no other course of action.

Another of Ryan's weaknesses is his poor defense, the counter can easily get in, but anyway, Duarte is not Gervonta who is a veteran of tough fights and a thinking fighter, something that cannot be said of Duarte.

with duarte's record, ryan should have alternative plans other than throwing his left hook because for sure duarte's camp will do their research. they won't go inside the ring without checking his past history and look for his weaknesses.
garcia's name may be more familiar over duarte but am not totally convinced about the odds given to duarte. an upset may possibly happen on this match.

Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.

[Johnyz]

Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.

Ryan have to bounce back here and make his name known again in the field of boxing, his first loss was a huge shock to many but that’s ok as long as he rise and bounce back again, I’m sure he can have a good promotions again. Few more hours and we will witness this two great boxer fighting for the belt, I’m rooting for Garcia here and he should be more confident this time and be more wise in throwing punches because Duarte is not an easy opponent for sure.

[Jating]

Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.

Ryan have to bounce back here and make his name known again in the field of boxing, his first loss was a huge shock to many but that’s ok as long as he rise and bounce back again, I’m sure he can have a good promotions again. Few more hours and we will witness this two great boxer fighting for the belt, I’m rooting for Garcia here and he should be more confident this time and be more wise in throwing punches because Duarte is not an easy opponent for sure.

I wouldn't say that it's a huge shock to many, Ryan was the underdog that time, what's shock us is the manner on how he lost that time. His offense was not there, and there is nothing that he can do against Tank Davis. But later on we heard that the was a rehydration clause and it looks like Ryan wasn't able to rehydrate obviously.

But this time with no weight issues, he even goes above the 140 lbs here. So we shouldn't here any excuse after the fight if ever he lost that he was weight drain. Of course, I think majority of us here will be rooting for him. Maybe we are fans or just wanted to see this kid grow and become a world champion. So if he wins here, we wanted him to see against Teo Lopez or Haney.

[cabron]

Oscar said it would end in a KO, whoever it will be we yet have to see https://twitter.com/DAZNBoxing/status/1730664888219861265
Ryan in Spence training camp I think will make him better though so I think he can make it.

Ryan after the loss against Tank somehow woke up and learned GB doesn't care about their star but just cash grab out of them. But now he is also on crazier ground, his promotion disrespects him despite him being the only popular fighter in GB.

Ryan have to bounce back here and make his name known again in the field of boxing, his first loss was a huge shock to many but that’s ok as long as he rise and bounce back again, I’m sure he can have a good promotions again. Few more hours and we will witness this two great boxer fighting for the belt, I’m rooting for Garcia here and he should be more confident this time and be more wise in throwing punches because Duarte is not an easy opponent for sure.

I wouldn't say that it's a huge shock to many, Ryan was the underdog that time, what's shock us is the manner on how he lost that time. His offense was not there, and there is nothing that he can do against Tank Davis. But later on we heard that the was a rehydration clause and it looks like Ryan wasn't able to rehydrate obviously.

But this time with no weight issues, he even goes above the 140 lbs here. So we shouldn't here any excuse after the fight if ever he lost that he was weight drain. Of course, I think majority of us here will be rooting for him. Maybe we are fans or just wanted to see this kid grow and become a world champion. So if he wins here, we wanted him to see against Teo Lopez or Haney.

He said he felt his team abandoned him that time when he was to fight with Davis. Maybe it's true but I think he should have stayed with Canelo.
Ryan by the way claimed he made $30M in Davis fight, it must be worth it but if he only wants money he could haave agreed to fight with Manny Pacquiao when De la Hoya was trying to hyped it. I think this is where the relationship started to sour.

Ryan could come up as winning against Duarte. Hoping this will not be as controversial UD.

[FinneysTrueVision]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

[robelneo]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

[lionheart78]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

Yeah I watched the replay, Duarte could have continued but he chose to get up at 9 and a half sec making him late to beat the 10 counts.  It is also surprising that there are lots of angle where Duarte is at an advantage but fails to take the opportunity.

Anyway, I feel that this fight is made for Ryan to win but who knows,  that shot on the temple/near back on the top of the ear made Duarte lose his balance and eventually failed to beat the 10th count.  I hope this win will give Ryan Garcia a huge boost in his career.  I am a bit surprised on the KO though since I see Duarte defending but still Ryan's shots went through the defense and Duarte is all fine on his knee waiting for the count and eventually missed beating it. Looks like a deliberate loss though... (just my thought)

[Slow death]

I didn't watch the fight live but I was able to watch a replay of the entire fight, I confess that during the replay of the fight I couldn't understand how there was so much change in the final result of the fight, and that for me Duarte was doing well throughout the fight, he had more counterattack initiatives, in some cases he was even successful and in others he had to retreat because the opponent retreated to the ropes and that no longer gave Duarte space to counterattack, meanwhile Ryan Garcia really looked like he had learned He learned the lesson from his previous fight very well and he started not to make the same mistakes, he avoided getting too close to Duerte and didn't attack in the first place at the beginning of the fight.

This must be because he realized his mistake in the last fight in which he lost, so the guy started to protect his stomach well and kept running all the time to make Duerte chase him and consequently Duerte would get dizzy and tired, soon that would be enough. some strong punches to knock out Duerte, it was a very good strategy that Ryan used and this type of way of fighting can work very well against opponents who are good at knockouts and who have little resistance in fights that go until the last round, because they become more exhausted in the last rounds due to the fact that they want to end the fights early. We'll see what Ryan Garcia's next fight will be and congratulations on his victory

[Saisher]

Yeah I watched the replay, Duarte could have continued but he chose to get up at 9 and a half sec making him late to beat the 10 counts.  It is also surprising that there are lots of angle where Duarte is at an advantage but fails to take the opportunity.

Anyway, I feel that this fight is made for Ryan to win but who knows,  that shot on the temple/near back on the top of the ear made Duarte lose his balance and eventually failed to beat the 10th count.  I hope this win will give Ryan Garcia a huge boost in his career.  I am a bit surprised on the KO though since I see Duarte defending but still Ryan's shots went through the defense and Duarte is all fine on his knee waiting for the count and eventually missed beating it. Looks like a deliberate loss though... (just my thought)

It looks that way but I don't want to take anything away from Ryan, Duarte has a lot to gain if he upsets Garcia so I doubt its deliberate, and Duarte admit it in the interview, it's obvious he is not yet ready to take hits like that because what I've seen on many of Duarte's fight is he is always the one giving the beating but its good that Garcia takes the win, he cannot afford another loss, he is eyeing a match against Teofimo but I hope he can renegotiate against because Rolly looks an easy fight than Teofimo.

[TimeTeller]

Yeah I watched the replay, Duarte could have continued but he chose to get up at 9 and a half sec making him late to beat the 10 counts.  It is also surprising that there are lots of angle where Duarte is at an advantage but fails to take the opportunity.

Anyway, I feel that this fight is made for Ryan to win but who knows,  that shot on the temple/near back on the top of the ear made Duarte lose his balance and eventually failed to beat the 10th count.  I hope this win will give Ryan Garcia a huge boost in his career.  I am a bit surprised on the KO though since I see Duarte defending but still Ryan's shots went through the defense and Duarte is all fine on his knee waiting for the count and eventually missed beating it. Looks like a deliberate loss though... (just my thought)

It looks that way but I don't want to take anything away from Ryan, Duarte has a lot to gain if he upsets Garcia so I doubt its deliberate, and Duarte admit it in the interview, it's obvious he is not yet ready to take hits like that because what I've seen on many of Duarte's fight is he is always the one giving the beating but its good that Garcia takes the win, he cannot afford another loss, he is eyeing a match against Teofimo but I hope he can renegotiate against because Rolly looks an easy fight than Teofimo.

That is true, another loss for Garcia may give him so much mental stress. So yes, this will be a good motivation for him to fight next.
Bookies got it right as they heavily favored Garcia on this one. But not an easy fight for Garcia.
If Duarte was really prepared for this fight, upset was on the corner, easy. However, Garcia got it this time. Lucky for him though.