[Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2)

[bisdak40]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs was not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Garcia did the job but for me that wasn't impressive, he was caught with that left hook of Duarte a couple of times, luckily it was not so lethal that he still stood despite all of that.

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[Japinat]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs was not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Garcia did the job but for me that wasn't impressive, he was caught with that left hook of Duarte a couple of times, luckily it was not so lethal that he still stood despite all of that.

I think that wasn't really the style of Garcia, he was probably feeling some injury on the rib that he was protecting it to be the target of Duarte. The win wasn't impressive, he failed our expectations but at least he was able to win the fight via KO. I don't know what's next for him, i think he needs more tune up fights like this and see if he can bring his old self, the one that isn't afraid to fight toe to toe, and wins via KO.

Who won here with their prediction Garcia win by KO in the 8th round, or the range for founds 7-10?

[coin-investor]

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs were not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

You are right I replayed that moment when he was being counted his legs were not there and when he got up his legs were shaking, there were 11 seconds to go before the bell, and in those 11 seconds left Garcia could seriously hurt him, so its right that the referee stop the fight even though he barely made it

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on the brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

[stadus]

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on the brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

Maybe we can blame the fans for chanting the name of Duarte, that was probably the reason why Duarte got so aggressive and forgot to pay attention to his defense, disrespecting the power of Ryan Garcia. What Ryan Garcia showed was something new, I never thought he'd be so fast that Duarte could not catch him despite the latter was the one who keeps attacking.

[Distinctin]

Garcia did the job but for me that wasn't impressive, he was caught with that left hook of Duarte a couple of times, luckily it was not so lethal that he still stood despite all of that.

Yeah, if he were to face a champion or even a fighter with a good rank, he would probably suffer another knockout. It appears that he was truly exposed, not the same guy as when he lost to Tank Davis. I wouldn't be surprised if his camp finds it challenging to secure a championship match due to his recent performance.

I guess he's done for this year; we can't expect to see him in another fight. Hopefully, next year, even in the second half, we will witness him in a championship match again. While Tank Davis is enjoying his champion status as one of the best now, Ryan Garcia is in the process of rebuilding his career, climbing the ladder once more. I now understand why boxers with undefeated records may be hesitant to risk fighting against a champion who has a real chance of beating them.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

I was surprised that the bookmakers put Duarte at 4:1 underdog against Ryan. For sure they know something after the weight-in. So obviously, this is a cherry pick for Ryan just to be comfortable at 140 lbs. But still very interesting how Ryan chin will react. As I think that Duarte will go head hunting from the very first round to really put pressure on Ryan and test if he is ready from those power bombs.

That odds hasn't change from the start I guess. Well, personally I'm not surprise with the odds as Ryan Garcia is still considered as a superstar in boxing while Duarte hasn't created a name yet in boxing, maybe after he'll beat Garcia, but that would be a tough job for him, but let's see.

It's a great challenge for Garcia, proving to the fans that he's back and he is still mentally healthy after losing a big fight, so just like most of us here, I'm excited to withness this fight and I'm rooting for King Ry to win via KO.

I think the odds started 5:1 Duarte underdog, now it's 4:1. But I'm looking at the over and under rounds, I think this will be a good and 'safe' bet. I'm look at Duarte's win and although he has the power, I see some vulnerabilities and that is he is open for the left hook.

And we know that Ryan's best weapons is his left hook. So I don't think that this fight is going to distance. It will be under 8.5 in my opinion and Ryan winning by stoppage or by a brutal left hook.

As I have said in my prediction, this is going to happened in this fight, under 8.5 round and Ryan by stoppage.


And I do like what Ryan did here, it seems there's some improvement when he jump trainer and move to Derrick James. We've seen movement, and not just relying to his power and his chin is more tuck although there are instance that he is almost going or showing his back against Duarte.

Not sure though his relationships with Oscar and GBP promotions. I think it has been damage already.

Teo Lopez or Rolly Romero should be next for Ryan to win a belt here.

[Kemarit]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs was not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Garcia did the job but for me that wasn't impressive, he was caught with that left hook of Duarte a couple of times, luckily it was not so lethal that he still stood despite all of that.

It seems that Duarte took a dive in this fight, or maybe he was really hit so hard that he felt dizzy and cant' get up. We can see though that his legs was not there once Ryan touches him with those barrage of punches. So we must say that he still has that power, although there's a lot of loopholes on him.

He has the feet already, but ne needs more, still looks very flat footed to me. In any case, still a win for Ryan, so the hype continues for this kid and Golden Boy should get him another good fighter in his next fight to boost his confidence. Yes a Rolly Romero will be a great test for him, and I think he can beat Rolly. He just need to be smart and cover his chin and again uses more feet and movement.

[goaldigger]

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on the brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

Maybe we can blame the fans for chanting the name of Duarte, that was probably the reason why Duarte got so aggressive and forgot to pay attention to his defense, disrespecting the power of Ryan Garcia. What Ryan Garcia showed was something new, I never thought he'd be so fast that Duarte could not catch him despite the latter was the one who keeps attacking.

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

[AmoreJaz]

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on the brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

Maybe we can blame the fans for chanting the name of Duarte, that was probably the reason why Duarte got so aggressive and forgot to pay attention to his defense, disrespecting the power of Ryan Garcia. What Ryan Garcia showed was something new, I never thought he'd be so fast that Duarte could not catch him despite the latter was the one who keeps attacking.

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

at least his winning via KO won't raise so many doubts but if it was split decision, i guess he will be booed up until the end or up until they announced the decision. duarte on the other hand, put a good fight. if he was more careful, he can really upset garcia by the looks of it. don't know if duarte's camp would like to get their re-match. but more then likely, garcia's camp is already looking for bigger name for his next fight.
and the running strategy? hope he won't practice that more often in his upcoming fights. else, he will be the next mayweather in the making here.. just thinking on the technical side and not what boxing fans want inside the ring. a toe-to-toe fight.

[Baofeng]

Yeah, many people inside the arena seem to not like the new style of Ryan Garcia, for me he seems afraid on the brawl type of fight, had he not connected that left hook, that booing would have continued until the 12th round.

Yes and if Garcia won by decision fans would not like it, because he just keeps on running and refuses to engage, not the Garcia that people used to see.
This is not surprising since he has a new trainer and his trainer has mapped out a plan for Ryan, he wants Romero next but he doesn't want the money being offered to him by The Golden Boy promotion, let's see who will Garcia fight next I like to see him get a rematch against Gervonta.

Maybe we can blame the fans for chanting the name of Duarte, that was probably the reason why Duarte got so aggressive and forgot to pay attention to his defense, disrespecting the power of Ryan Garcia. What Ryan Garcia showed was something new, I never thought he'd be so fast that Duarte could not catch him despite the latter was the one who keeps attacking.

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

at least his winning via KO won't raise so many doubts but if it was split decision, i guess he will be booed up until the end or up until they announced the decision. duarte on the other hand, put a good fight. if he was more careful, he can really upset garcia by the looks of it. don't know if duarte's camp would like to get their re-match. but more then likely, garcia's camp is already looking for bigger name for his next fight.
and the running strategy? hope he won't practice that more often in his upcoming fights. else, he will be the next mayweather in the making here.. just thinking on the technical side and not what boxing fans want inside the ring. a toe-to-toe fight.

There were times in the fight that fans boo them, it's because there's not much action between the boxers and then Ryan doing those roll with his chin tuck, but Duarte was able to get some shots inside, so he hasn't perfected it by maybe this new trainer teaches him that defense. And I will also says that there's some improvement at least. Ryan is not that plodding, there is some feet movement.

Yes, their next target is Rolly Romero, he is a WBA champion, however he was supposed to full fill his mandatory until he got injured. So I think if the organization wanted to set up the fight, they can by pass it as what others governing body is doing right now.

At least as they are  going to benefit, the mandatories can wait. However, still depends on the timetable for Rolly as he is injured. Let's wait for him to heal first, for sure he would like to fight Ryan and both have big mouths too, so there will be good to promote this side. And we will see who will do good numbers, Romero vs Davis (reportedly 250,000 PPV buys), or Romero vs Garcia.

[Dave1]

Ryan gets the win by KO. There was nothing too remarkable about his performance but he was able to execute his game plan effectively. Duarte was at a disadvantage because of the 143 lb catchweight. His style was very basic and Ryan had no problems landing shots. After this tuneup it seems like Rolly Romero might be next for Ryan. Both fighters are at a similar level so it should be an intriguing matchup where we will see if either of them is ready to step up to the elite level once again.

Duarte could have gone up but he chose to get up when the count is over, there's a lot of boos going on because Ryan is running to much I think that's the improvement in Ryan's game, a good defensive stance to run too often and not very eager to engage, a deviation from what he did against Gervonta, not a great performance but a win is still a win I guess The Golden Boy will finally get him a title shot after this win.
I'm waiting for the press conference so we'll know where Garcia is heading now after this win, in his interview in the ring he wants Rolly so lets see if he will get Rolly.

I also don't understand why Duarte didn't get up on time, maybe his legs was not still there so he didn't bother to beat the referee's count.

If you look at the replay, his legs where gone after the first or second hit that he got from Ryan. And then he goes down and take a knee. The referee was right there in front of him and counting loud and he wasn't responded when he hear the 8 count and chooses to go up at 9 wherein it was obvious that he wants to take some more time to recover.

Ryan got the W is that's what important for him. You can see that his trainer if very happy. I mean we have seen James losing his best so now he is 2 out of 4.

Garcia winning and then last week Charlo winning against Benavidez Jr.

[Japinat]

At least as they are  going to benefit, the mandatories can wait. However, still depends on the timetable for Rolly as he is injured. Let's wait for him to heal first, for sure he would like to fight Ryan and both have big mouths too, so there will be good to promote this side. And we will see who will do good numbers, Romero vs Davis (reportedly 250,000 PPV buys), or Romero vs Garcia.

We will patiently wait for this fight, Garcia deserves to be in a championship fight again, and knowing Rolly, he has some talent and also good in selling fights, so it's expected to generate lots of PPV subs but for sure not going to surpass what Davis vs Garcia has earned in the past.

I don't know if the ranking here https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings... is already updated, but as of now, Ryan is ranked at number 4, so I like to ask, can he be a mandatory fighter to the champ if he's not on the number 1?

[TravelMug]

At least as they are  going to benefit, the mandatories can wait. However, still depends on the timetable for Rolly as he is injured. Let's wait for him to heal first, for sure he would like to fight Ryan and both have big mouths too, so there will be good to promote this side. And we will see who will do good numbers, Romero vs Davis (reportedly 250,000 PPV buys), or Romero vs Garcia.

We will patiently wait for this fight, Garcia deserves to be in a championship fight again, and knowing Rolly, he has some talent and also good in selling fights, so it's expected to generate lots of PPV subs but for sure not going to surpass what Davis vs Garcia has earned in the past.

I don't know if the ranking here https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings... is already updated, but as of now, Ryan is ranked at number 4, so I like to ask, can he be a mandatory fighter to the champ if he's not on the number 1?

I think they can, if the governing body (because of corruption and the huge money that it will generated), so we will see. But what about Ryan's doing the shoulder roll though? I mean it looks very bad and I see interview of Teo Lopez, mocking him with that kind of defense. Did Derrick James really taught him to roll like that? But he goes to the extreme that he is somewhat exposing his back already. But the media is 60/40 I would say, mostly favorable results for Garcia and winning by TKO and see some footwork and then the uppercut. While others thinks that he is still a diva and this fight is tailor made for him to look great and now calling champions like Rolly Romero.

[aioc]

I don't know if the ranking here https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings... is already updated, but as of now, Ryan is ranked at number 4, so I like to ask, can he be a mandatory fighter to the champ if he's not on the number 1?

I don't think it has already been updated Matias already beats Shohjahon Ergashev but he is still in the number 3 rank while Garcia is in number 7 even though he has an impressive win, but it's not about being mandatory its more on what the boxing community wants and where will the promoters are likely to make money.
Until now whoever Garcia fought has been sold out, he is still a crowd drawer, I'm sure promoters will push Garcia to have a title fight, either with Teofimo Lopez or Rolly Romero.

[Hirose UK]

At least as they are  going to benefit, the mandatories can wait. However, still depends on the timetable for Rolly as he is injured. Let's wait for him to heal first, for sure he would like to fight Ryan and both have big mouths too, so there will be good to promote this side. And we will see who will do good numbers, Romero vs Davis (reportedly 250,000 PPV buys), or Romero vs Garcia.

We will patiently wait for this fight, Garcia deserves to be in a championship fight again, and knowing Rolly, he has some talent and also good in selling fights, so it's expected to generate lots of PPV subs but for sure not going to surpass what Davis vs Garcia has earned in the past.

I don't know if the ranking here https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings... is already updated, but as of now, Ryan is ranked at number 4, so I like to ask, can he be a mandatory fighter to the champ if he's not on the number 1?

Oscar Duarte lost humiliatingly because he was warned several times by the referee for throwing prohibited blows and in the 5th, 6th and 7th rounds, Garcia seemed to have little difficulty facing Duarte until he seemed to run out of energy.
However, after that, Garcia was able to throw several punches and in the 8th round he threw left hook which made Duarte fall and couldn't stop the referee count and was declared knockout defeat to Garcia.
As I previously predicted, if Garcia wins it will be KO victory, but if he reaches the full round , Duarte has the chance to win on points.
With this victory, Garcia regained his name and can still be one of the best boxers in his class.

Now Ryan Garcia has the opportunity to challenge Davis again in the future to maintain what he has so far.
Garcia was previously one of the most undefeated boxers with multiple championships under his belt, but with the loss to Davis, he had the pressure weighing on him.

[yazher]

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

It was a great achievement and a great win to be back in the ring and now he gonna be once again a major threat in their weight division with some intense training, he could improve his stamina and won't look worn out in the 8 rounds just like he was in this fight. I wonder who would be the next boxer to challenge him because he is now fully confident that he can beat anyone as long as they have the same weight. Congratulations to Ryan Garcia and welcome back to him, it's nice to see him doing his thing again, knocking out opponents with his signature super fast punches.

[mirakal]

It was a great achievement and a great win to be back in the ring and now he gonna be once again a major threat in their weight division with some intense training, he could improve his stamina and won't look worn out in the 8 rounds just like he was in this fight.

I don't know about that, what i know is that I'm not impressed with his performance despite winning via KO. His style was too boring, I mean when did he learn how to run? Ryan Garcia suppose to be a killer in the ring, he goes directly think of knocking out his opponent, and that against a non caliber fighter, it took him 8 rounds to KO and he wasn't even dominating, so have doubts if he ever be a champion again.

[Yaunfitda]

Duarte might got overwhelmed from the chants of the fans and I didn’t expect that he will lose via KO.
What Ryan did is a great statement that he is still a good boxer and lucky to those who bet with Ryan via KO. His running strategy works and loading a heavy punches landed him into a huge victory, there’s no doubt that he can still fight and I’m sure bigger fights are coming for Garcia.

It was a great achievement and a great win to be back in the ring and now he gonna be once again a major threat in their weight division with some intense training, he could improve his stamina and won't look worn out in the 8 rounds just like he was in this fight. I wonder who would be the next boxer to challenge him because he is now fully confident that he can beat anyone as long as they have the same weight. Congratulations to Ryan Garcia and welcome back to him, it's nice to see him doing his thing again, knocking out opponents with his signature super fast punches.

Yes, good to see Ryan Garcia back in the limelight at the 140 lbs division. He still has that power and speed, but it looks like there are several flaws that needed to be corrected. But with a good trainer behind him, for sure we will see another improvement, like more of this footwork and movement as others have seen from him in this fight.

Not that just standing in front of his opponent and trying to exchange and trade blows. He needs to be a thinking boxing now as he is maturing and obviously he needs to be a champion here at this division to get more money and at least get a true belt. Bigger fights for him is Teofimo Lopez and the winner of Haney and Prograis. Or he if wanted a quick belt then Romero is the best option.

[Natalim]

Not that just standing in front of his opponent and trying to exchange and trade blows. He needs to be a thinking boxing now as he is maturing and obviously he needs to be a champion here at this division to get more money and at least get a true belt. Bigger fights for him is Teofimo Lopez and the winner of Haney and Prograis. Or he if wanted a quick belt then Romero is the best option.

Big improvement as he was able to improve his defense but the same time he slowly try to join the boring boxer to watch. But anyway, a win is a win for him, actually a big comeback win and I'm sure soon enough he'll get closer to be in a championship fight.

As for Rolly, it would be entertain to see him fight Garcia, but I choose the latter to win as I believe Garcia is a more smarter fighter.

However, if he would fight the winner of (Haney vs Prograis) fight which I think Haney would win, I doubt Garcia has a chance as Haney is probably bigger and the quicker fighter, his undefeated record is pretty much convincing that he's a tough opponent to be with in the ring.

[btc_angela]

According to Oscar Duarte, he was just caught by Ryan

“His speed didn’t surprise me. He just caught me good on the chin,” Duarte insisted during the post-fight press conference. “I felt like I acclimated to his power but he caught me with a good shot in the end. That was it.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/duarte-ryan-garcias-speed-surprise-me-he-just-caught-me-good-on-chin--179761

Yeah and that's what we are trying to avoid, if you face a powerful puncher like Ryan, if you get caught then you don't know what will be your reactions to it. And so in his case, his chin didn't hold. We thought that Duarte has a better chin at least, but it's not and so it was over for him and still Ryan supporters are very happy for that big win he got and so silencing his detractors again.