[Boxing] Ryan Garcia vs Oscar Duarte (December 2)

[Baofeng]

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

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[bisdak40]

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

That shoulder roll looks awkward for me but if he can improve that aspect of his defense then provably Ryan Garcia will be hard to hit as he also have that power punch to counter whenever his opponent missed. That win was really a morale booster for him, though not so impressive but a win is still a win and for me he need two or more tune-up fight before facing the big boys of this division.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

True, this division will be second to the heavyweight division as there are a lot of sellable names that could face each other. After Prograis vs Haney, and if the latter wins, who knows that Lopez vs Haney will materialize, that fight will be an acid test to Haney's career.

[TravelMug]

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

That shoulder roll looks awkward for me but if he can improve that aspect of his defense then provably Ryan Garcia will be hard to hit as he also have that power punch to counter whenever his opponent missed. That win was really a morale booster for him, though not so impressive but a win is still a win and for me he need two or more tune-up fight before facing the big boys of this division.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

True, this division will be second to the heavyweight division as there are a lot of sellable names that could face each other. After Prograis vs Haney, and if the latter wins, who knows that Lopez vs Haney will materialize, that fight will be an acid test to Haney's career.

Don't forget Matias as well, he might be unknown for some boxing fans, but last weekend he shows that he is a tough champion in this division. And maybe he was overlook right now because of the big names that we have in the current weight class, Lopez, Romero and the winner of Prograis vs Haney. Hopefully, Matias should also be in the mix or if either of the champions wanted to test him and get his IBF belt for next year. Ryan is targeting Rolly Romero so that is a good fight as well and hopefully it could be rescheduled by GBP. And with that shoulder roll, maybe James will teach Garcia the proper way next time so that it won't be as awkward as f**k watching Ryan doing it.

[Kemarit]

And just like the rest of us here commenting on the shoulder roll of Ryan, this is what Devin Haney has to say,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZTl0eqT4yJY

The title though is a bit misleading, he didn't clown Ryan Garcia, he just shares his opinion with that stance of Garcia and again, majority of us see it as horrible and it seems that Ryan is learning that defense though.

[AmoreJaz]

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

i don't think it was a cherry pick for garcia. because if duarte was really prepared on this fight, i honestly believe garcia would have hard time  inside the ring. i guess it was his lucky day and at least giving a boost morale to himself for his career.
now he can focus on his upcoming fights. and good thing for him as he will be heading to positive direction. because if he lost this one, he may suffer another mental breakdown. so the results of this fight will help him to dedicate himself to improving because he has bigger fights to look forward to.

[inthelongrun]

And just like the rest of us here commenting on the shoulder roll of Ryan, this is what Devin Haney has to say,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZTl0eqT4yJY

The title though is a bit misleading, he didn't clown Ryan Garcia, he just shares his opinion with that stance of Garcia and again, majority of us see it as horrible and it seems that Ryan is learning that defense though.

I'm surprised Haney did not laugh or bash Ryan. But probably because he wants Ryan not to get offended so he can take him after Prograis. If Haney wins impressively over Prograis this weekend, I don't know who's next since I cannot think of any fighters in the division that are popular aside from Ryan. If I remember correctly, someone here mentioned Ryan still has a fight remaining under GBP.

Oscar also clarified he never offered Teofimo $1.8M to fight Ryan. So if Teofimo was not lying then Ryan and his team may be the ones making the laughable offer probably just to hype that they are ready for the champions.

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

i don't think it was a cherry pick for garcia. because if duarte was really prepared on this fight, i honestly believe garcia would have hard time  inside the ring. i guess it was his lucky day and at least giving a boost morale to himself for his career.
now he can focus on his upcoming fights. and good thing for him as he will be heading to positive direction. because if he lost this one, he may suffer another mental breakdown. so the results of this fight will help him to dedicate himself to improving because he has bigger fights to look forward to.

It's an obvious cherry-pick. Otherwise, why choose someone from 135 when you're fighting at 140? And then later on changed the catchweight to 143. So that was already 2 divisions north of Duarte's usual weight.

Also, I doubt James and even Ryan himself do the awkward Phelly Shell experiment if they did not pick someone slow and will get even slower when moving up 2 divisions.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

^^ And that's why we said that this is a tune up or cherry pick fight for Ryan Garcia as we all know that Duarte can't last full 12 rounds against him. So very good choice for Oscar, to boost Ryan Garcia's confidence with this "great win" from him. And that's what really happen here, Duarte charging as that what his style and Ryan with his improved movement is just waiting to counter him all night.

Although he admit that he did worst impression of the shoulder roll and Derrick James didn't train him to do that. It just come to him maybe from watching other boxers from James stable doing that, hehehe.

Next year will be this division will be one of the hottest I believed, specially on the outcome of the Regis Prograis vs Devin Haney fight. As we might see money fights here with Haney, Lopez and Garcia potentially.

i don't think it was a cherry pick for garcia. because if duarte was really prepared on this fight, i honestly believe garcia would have hard time  inside the ring. i guess it was his lucky day and at least giving a boost morale to himself for his career.
now he can focus on his upcoming fights. and good thing for him as he will be heading to positive direction. because if he lost this one, he may suffer another mental breakdown. so the results of this fight will help him to dedicate himself to improving because he has bigger fights to look forward to.

For sure no boxer is not going into the ring un-prepared specially against Garcia, you can even here what he says in the pre fight that he is ready and that he will bring Garcia with a knockout. And with that there's hype on this fight as others said, in paper he really looks scary with that knockout ratio.

But Garcia is well prepared in this fight and that's why sport bookies knows what the rounds are it's over/under at 8.5 round (you can look at my previous comment).

So yeah, it's no surprised if you see Duarte's previous fight and how he will be open for Ryan's left or his power. So I disagree with that being a "lucky" win for him. It was not like a one punch that knockdown Duarte, it was a barrage of punches and Duarte's leg was not there and referee stopping it was the right decision.

[TravelMug]

And just like the rest of us here commenting on the shoulder roll of Ryan, this is what Devin Haney has to say,

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZTl0eqT4yJY

The title though is a bit misleading, he didn't clown Ryan Garcia, he just shares his opinion with that stance of Garcia and again, majority of us see it as horrible and it seems that Ryan is learning that defense though.

I'm surprised Haney did not laugh or bash Ryan. But probably because he wants Ryan not to get offended so he can take him after Prograis. If Haney wins impressively over Prograis this weekend, I don't know who's next since I cannot think of any fighters in the division that are popular aside from Ryan. If I remember correctly, someone here mentioned Ryan still has a fight remaining under GBP.

Oscar also clarified he never offered Teofimo $1.8M to fight Ryan. So if Teofimo was not lying then Ryan and his team may be the ones making the laughable offer probably just to hype that they are ready for the champions.

Yeah, I think it's good on his part not to attack or criticize Ryan and just see him good winning his fight against a bloated 135 lbs in Duarte. Maybe Haney's focus right now since this is what we call fight week in with Regis Prograis and the interviewer trying to put words in the mouth of Haney, but he dodge that question intelligently. I also read that as well, Dela Hoya says that it is not true, that they didn't low ball or even offer a fight to the Lopez's. Maybe this is just way for Teo and his father to be sending the signal to GBP and see what Oscar's reaction with that numbers in the line. But let's see if GBP and Ryan Garcia will continue with their partnership as there are serious strain between the camp of Ryan and Oscar and BHop.

[lionheart78]

For sure no boxer is not going into the ring un-prepared specially against Garcia, you can even here what he says in the pre fight that he is ready and that he will bring Garcia with a knockout. And with that there's hype on this fight as others said, in paper he really looks scary with that knockout ratio.

But the increase in weight took a toll on Duarte. From 135 lbs to 143 lbs, that is too much for a boxer IMO.

... and referee stopping it was the right decision.

It is really the right decision if the boxer is counted out   or else there will be a huge controversy if the referee continues the fight after Duarte was counted 10 on his knees.  Ryan Garcia's punch is too much to take for a much lighter boxer expecially when the fight is brought to almost two divisions higher.  The situation is favorable to Ryan Garcia and I wonder why Duarte's camp agreed on this.

[bisdak40]

For sure no boxer is not going into the ring un-prepared specially against Garcia, you can even here what he says in the pre fight that he is ready and that he will bring Garcia with a knockout. And with that there's hype on this fight as others said, in paper he really looks scary with that knockout ratio.

But the increase in weight took a toll on Duarte. From 135 lbs to 143 lbs, that is too much for a boxer IMO.

That's the biggest advantage Ryan Garcia had on Duarte, i think it was the first time that the latter fights at that division which for me he need a tune-up fight, i mean fight boxers whose talent is south of his before taking big names in that division but it was done and that fight was for Garcia to look good on the ring and Oscar was successful of that. Definitely, his next fight would not be against Tank Davis.

Locking the thread now guys and thanks for your usual support.