Do we truly need cbdc when bitcoin already exist?

[slapper]

Bitcoin acts as a competitor to CBDC, so the green light that the state hypocritically gives to bitcoin now could change to a red light at any moment. I personally never trust the state

Bitcoin exist first, the government just made CBDC in the last few years. So, CBDC seems to act as the competitor of Bitcoin. But it will never has the ability to compete Bitcoin because it has no value as well as Bitcoin. For me CBDC is a digital form of government currency it has no difference with fiats.

Regarding the red light for Bitcoin, it already happens many times. We must remember that there are some countries that ever ban Bitcoin and other crypto coins. Now, they may not ban Bitcoin and other crypto coins, but they can announce to ban again at any time. It depends on what the advantage get by the government from legalizing or banning crypto.

Bitcoin, the cryptocurrency pioneer, was a pioneer, right? Whether CBDCs can compete with Bitcoin is intriguing. CBDCs are digital fiat currencies, but they lack Bitcoin's decentralization. Does decentralization determine value?

Bitcoin has had its red lights, no doubt. Cryptocurrencies have been accepted and banned by governments, creating a legal rollercoaster. What motivates these choices? Is it government advantage or a more complex financial control and economic stability network? Governments' changing views on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are fascinating. Will decentralized and centralized digital currencies coexist? The scales tip, and we anxiously await their next landing.

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[kro55]

I would put the question another way. Does the state need bitcoin if the state has CBDC? The likely answer to that is doubtful. Bitcoin acts as a competitor to CBDC, so the green light that the state hypocritically gives to bitcoin now could change to a red light at any moment. I personally never trust the state

I was also thinking of this. Although there are already some countries that legally acknowledge Bitcoin and some that are fine with it despite not having a formal legal policy or acknowledgement regarding it (like here in the country where I live in where even politicians and public figures are loud about holding and trading Bitcoin but no news or updates regarding Bitcoin being banned or legalize is happening) I think once CBDC gets adopted by many countries Bitcoin will be tagged as a red flag for the government. We can think of CBDC as the government's way to advocate and offer digital currency but not by way of Bitcoin but through their own system-one that they can control.

Why is bitcoin red flagged if CBDCs become popular when most countries only accept and legalize bitcoin as an asset and not a currency? Bitcoin is an asset, CBDC is still the main currency of the economy, so is there any competition between the two for the government to ban it again? Both are not created to compete with each other, they both have different use cases so it cannot be said that governments will seek to ban bitcoin once CBDCs become popular.

[Cryptmuster]

Why is bitcoin red flagged if CBDCs become popular when most countries only accept and legalize bitcoin as an asset and not a currency? Bitcoin is an asset, CBDC is still the main currency of the economy, so is there any competition between the two for the government to ban it again? Both are not created to compete with each other, they both have different use cases so it cannot be said that governments will seek to ban bitcoin once CBDCs become popular.

CBDC will perform the same function that fiat money currently performs, nothing will change for the consumer, but at the same time, governments will try to convince how much better CBDC is than Bitcoin. They will take some advantages, such as transaction speed, and perhaps fees, as a basis and will convince them that Bitcoin is already the past, and digital currencies are the future. Although the advantages of Bitcoin will be obvious to anyone who studies it.

[Pejoh Asu]

CBDC (central bank digital currency) are digital representation of a country's official currency managed and regulated by a central bank. The idea is to provide an alternative to digital cash allowing faster transactions and increasing financial accessibility.

Its centralized nature allows the government to directly issue currency to citizens at the whim of central banks

This obviously means that they can not offer the same level of autonomy or censorship resistance that bitcoin offers

The fact that its implementation can lead to potential surveillance and increase government control over finance is something to be worried about.

Considering the fact that bitcoin has earned an high level of trust, security and borderlessness from it user with an inherent monitory policy brings the big question;

Do we really need cbdc now?

The thing that the government is afraid of is bitcoin and decentralization is becoming increasingly massive, CBDC is of course something that the government can offer to make it easy for the government to control financial circulation, of course we can't think that CBDC is a bad thing because finances must be able to be controlled so that people continue to trust increase.

[kro55]

Why is bitcoin red flagged if CBDCs become popular when most countries only accept and legalize bitcoin as an asset and not a currency? Bitcoin is an asset, CBDC is still the main currency of the economy, so is there any competition between the two for the government to ban it again? Both are not created to compete with each other, they both have different use cases so it cannot be said that governments will seek to ban bitcoin once CBDCs become popular.

CBDC will perform the same function that fiat money currently performs, nothing will change for the consumer, but at the same time, governments will try to convince how much better CBDC is than Bitcoin. They will take some advantages, such as transaction speed, and perhaps fees, as a basis and will convince them that Bitcoin is already the past, and digital currencies are the future. Although the advantages of Bitcoin will be obvious to anyone who studies it.

As I said, bitcoin is an asset, not a payment method or currency, so comparing fees and transaction speeds would be meaningless. Furthermore, if they intentionally compare the two, it will only show their stupidity because even if they compare and explain, everyone will know that bitcoin is decentralized. That feature alone would be enough for bitcoin to beat a government CBDC, so I don't think the government would compare the two. As you said, CBCD is just a digital version of fiat, so let it continue the role of fiat money.

[GuruMarketing]

CBDC concept isn't new and already in the circulation even in countries like China but do you really see CBDC as a threat to bitcoin?

Nah, it doesn't even has the ability to take down the paper money..,

[CryptoBuds]

CBDC (central bank digital currency) are digital representation of a country's official currency managed and regulated by a central bank. The idea is to provide an alternative to digital cash allowing faster transactions and increasing financial accessibility.

Its centralized nature allows the government to directly issue currency to citizens at the whim of central banks

This obviously means that they can not offer the same level of autonomy or censorship resistance that bitcoin offers

The fact that its implementation can lead to potential surveillance and increase government control over finance is something to be worried about.

Considering the fact that bitcoin has earned an high level of trust, security and borderlessness from it user with an inherent monitory policy brings the big question;

Do we really need cbdc now?

The thing that the government is afraid of is bitcoin and decentralization is becoming increasingly massive, CBDC is of course something that the government can offer to make it easy for the government to control financial circulation, of course we can't think that CBDC is a bad thing because finances must be able to be controlled so that people continue to trust increase.

CBDC is another bad thing that the government is using to control us more and they have no good intentions at all. Bitcoin was created to help us reduce the control the government has over us, so it would be naive to think that CBDCs were created to help increase people's trust. With fiat, cash, we can still have some privacy but with CBDC, our privacy will end. The government can control your entire life, even the smallest things. So don't be happy when they release CBCD.

[Silberman]

CBDC is another bad thing that the government is using to control us more and they have no good intentions at all. Bitcoin was created to help us reduce the control the government has over us, so it would be naive to think that CBDCs were created to help increase people's trust. With fiat, cash, we can still have some privacy but with CBDC, our privacy will end. The government can control your entire life, even the smallest things. So don't be happy when they release CBCD.

And that is the danger CBDCs represent, for decades governments have waged a war against cash with the excuse they are trying to reduce the crime rate, but their real goal is to eliminate cash so they can track everything you do with your money, and now they are trying to twist cryptocurrencies, which were supposed to be a tool for individual freedom, into a tool to control us even further, will they succeed? I hope not, but for that we will need people not only to adopt bitcoin but to do so while understanding its real goal.

[mehmetosman89]

CBDC concept isn't new and already in the circulation even in countries like China but do you really see CBDC as a threat to bitcoin?

Nah, it doesn't even has the ability to take down the paper money..,

From my thinking CBDC will not be that serious a threat to Bitcoin, because Bitcoin has stood so firmly in the crypto space and also in all markets that it will be difficult for anything to compete with. Everyone can see how the presence of many altcoins in the crypto space has entered the market to compete with Bitcoin, but all of them cannot fight Bitcoin and in fact Bitcoin can continue to grow with an increasing number of users every year.

So the presence of the CBDC concept will not be a threat at all to Bitcoin because the change is only in the usage model from physical money to digital money in a social environment where the value remains the same, while Bitcoin will continue to run as usual with the development of more and more users.

[fuguebtc]

CBDC is another bad thing that the government is using to control us more and they have no good intentions at all. Bitcoin was created to help us reduce the control the government has over us, so it would be naive to think that CBDCs were created to help increase people's trust. With fiat, cash, we can still have some privacy but with CBDC, our privacy will end. The government can control your entire life, even the smallest things. So don't be happy when they release CBCD.

And that is the danger CBDCs represent, for decades governments have waged a war against cash with the excuse they are trying to reduce the crime rate, but their real goal is to eliminate cash so they can track everything you do with your money, and now they are trying to twist cryptocurrencies, which were supposed to be a tool for individual freedom, into a tool to control us even further, will they succeed? I hope not, but for that we will need people not only to adopt bitcoin but to do so while understanding its real goal.

As long as governments still control this world, CBDCs and fiat currencies will remain the main currencies in commodity exchange. Even as bitcoin becomes more popular, it will be difficult for us to escape their control, what we can do is rely on bitcoin to reduce their surveillance.

I think CBDC is something we cannot avoid whether we like it or not, so it is inevitable that we will be controlled more. I'm thinking the worst when cash disappears and all our transactions are done using CBDC. Our smallest transactions will be controlled by them.

[doomloop]

CBDC is not related to bitcoin, I'm not sure if they have anything n common, if you have said stablecoins now and CBDC, then there are some similarities.

Bitcoin is a decentralized digital currency, by decentralization they don't have any middle man that control it's operation. The performance is based on peer-to-peer people around it's ecosystem, the network security is also dependent of the people around it.

 CBDC is a stable digital currency that central banks like to issue, it is going to be control and manage by the central bank, it's affairs are not restricted by commercial banks, anyone can use it any where and anytime but they are regulated in a such a way that you can be restricted if you violate any rules of the CBDC, this is Hy it's not good to use it in the first place because it's not your key or your coins.

Stablecoin work in this manner. The difference between CBDC and stablecoins is that one is control by central banks and the other is controlled by group of people that form a company.

We that are not new here already know that but if there is any thing they have in common, that would be; CBDC also operates under the blockchain so we can still call it as a cryptocurrency.

However it's true that stable coins are not far from CBDC. For Christ sake they shouldn't bother on creating CBDC anymore. This is only an added waste like a meme coin/shitcoin. Nice comparison though between CBDC and stable coins. Many are for sure can learn with it. BTW, another difference of CBDC and stable coins is that there are also some stable coins who are decentralized. DAI is one popular decentralized stable coin that I know.