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October 03, 2023, 08:02:36 PM
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I saw the images and noticed the transactions, but what exactly does it prove? Couples of some junky bounty hunters may be victims of this without realising it
How can they be victims without realising? Someone took control of their wallets and sent tokens to the exact same address?

the most important thing is to determine whether these accounts also share social media links and whether they are abusing bounty job.
Use of the same social media links is irrelevant here since there is blockchain evidence, and it was already proved by OP that accounts in question applied for the same bounty campaign.

At this point I am not sure if you are trolling me or just ignorant how these things work, but I will assume the latter and give it one more try.

These transactions (as seen in the screenshot in my previous post) show that its most likely the same person behind all those accounts (or you think that its the coincidence that 3 different accounts send tokens to the same address in a matter of 3 minutes)  as that's what they do, gather tokens they get via bounty campaign and then send it to the main wallet, from which then they send it further, usually to an exchange. In this case, this farmer sent the money he made to Binance.

If the OP wants to be taken seriously, he should put in some effort and present something that the mod can work with.
Mods don't deal with altcoin bounty abuse as for now that's what we are talking about here. Unless someone provides proof of ban evading as well. But I do agree that those who report these kind of stuff should put some effort into it, so others don't have to dig for proper evidence.

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October 03, 2023, 08:47:21 PM
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I saw the images and noticed the transactions, but what exactly does it prove? Couples of some junky bounty hunters may be victims of this without realising it
How can they be victims without realising? Someone took control of their wallets and sent tokens to the exact same address?

Just because I sent some bitcoin to your wallet does not imply that we are connected. It happens all the time on the gaming board with our side bets.

the most important thing is to determine whether these accounts also share social media links and whether they are abusing bounty job.
Use of the same social media links is irrelevant here since there is blockchain evidence, and it was already proved by OP that accounts in question applied for the same bounty campaign.

At this point I am not sure if you are trolling me or just ignorant how these things work, but I will assume the latter and give it one more try.

These transactions (as seen in the screenshot in my previous post) show that its most likely the same person behind all those accounts (or you think that its the coincidence that 3 different accounts send tokens to the same address in a matter of 3 minutes)  as that's what they do, gather tokens they get via bounty campaign and then send it to the main wallet, from which then they send it further, usually to an exchange. In this case, this farmer sent the money he made to Binance.

For your information, there are Bounty whales who buy these shitty tokens from bounty hunters for God knows what and this scenerior you just described happens all the time, which is why you always need to back it up with social media links to ensure it's more than just a Blockchain transaction. Believe it or not.

This conversation is leading nowhere- my last post here.

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October 04, 2023, 03:15:51 AM
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why not member does not take newbie report seriosly. Why allow newbie to register. banned all newbie so you big member free, check below and bann all account
It's not that it wasn't taken seriously, I'm sure all the members who were active in the thread also saw the post. Even the Op in the thread gave it a chance and didn't delete the post. that's something different because usually when something like that happens the Op has already deleted it.

In fact, there is nothing that prohibits beginners from creating or starting an investigation. but in that thread, there are restrictions with a purpose that we understand is for the good. no discrimination.
if you or the account in the post you share want to be seen by many people. find the bigger one, then you will get everyone's attention for your findings.

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October 04, 2023, 06:50:24 AM
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Just because I sent some bitcoin to your wallet does not imply that we are connected. It happens all the time on the gaming board with our side bets.
So you are comparing publically discused side bets between known members of gambling board who even leave neutral feedbacks about it, with bunch of Newbie accounts that spam bounty campaigns and nothing else and are notorious for having alt farms? GG.


For your information, there are Bounty whales who buy these shitty tokens from bounty hunters for God knows what and this scenerior you just described happens all the time
I am well aware of bounty whales, but that address has 69 transactions in the last 6 months, meaning not really looking like someone who is buying out shitcoins en masse. On top of that, all those members keep sending tokens between themselves.


Another proof that there is something dodgy going on, previously tagged bounty abuser @shanto sending BNB between some familar names, and also to previously mentioned main address. Another coinkydink?




which is why you always need to back it up with social media links to ensure it's more than just a Blockchain transaction. Believe it or not.
No you don't always need to back it up with social media links, believe it or not. Take for example this report made by a very experienced member (way more than you or me) when it comes to busting alts. He busted 7 accounts only by proving that they all sent tokens to the same address, and you can find many more similar reports by other members.


This conversation is leading nowhere
Well that's something that we can agree on.

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October 05, 2023, 02:11:27 AM
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I appreciate Rikafip research, good work. continue your job. you are best man in Bitcointalk. All others are just junk and burden on this forum.
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October 05, 2023, 08:44:53 PM
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I appreciate Rikafip research, good work. continue your job. you are best man in Bitcointalk. All others are just junk and burden on this forum.

You are a new member and you have no expertise in your work and before you praise someone for any work, think once if you have expertise in that work and how much you understand, try to talk and reply and never belittle anyone.
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October 08, 2023, 11:50:55 PM
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That your case isn’t handled as expected doesn’t make the forum picky on a side. As far as I can tell, a well detailed report with factual presentation of proofs and reports that goes against forum rules are not taken likely. It doesn’t matter if you’re a newbie or a legendary. If you take a trip to meta to look at the unban request, you would as well notice that those aren’t newbie accounts but, well established accounts in the forum.

Lashing out like that on rank users isn’t going to make your reports taken any seriously at OP. Perhaps you ain’t getting everything right in your report format and it ain’t satisfactory enough to result in drastic measures. You could as well learn how it’s done from those that are getting results and emulate them.

I haven’t really taken to these paths so I have nothing really to offer as per means to digging out flaws but then, you could learn a thing or two from the bulk of established users that dominate the reputation board rather than blast them.

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October 09, 2023, 04:40:22 AM
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Just because I sent some bitcoin to your wallet does not imply that we are connected. It happens all the time on the gaming board with our side bets.

There are certain patterns in transactions that make it apparent alt accounts are sending coins/tokens to themselves. Usually they have to do with the spacing of the transactions, the address type, and transaction amounts.

For example, if a bunch of accounts are all sending tokens to the same exchange deposit address within 1-5 minutes of each other, this nearly certainly means one person is flipping through metamask addresses that are all in one wallet that belongs to them.

Also, accounts that send entire coin balances (BNB and ETH, mainly) back and forth to each other often are likely to be alts just adding gas to their wallets to make token transactions (this can be seen in Rikafip's screenshot above).

With bounty cheaters, the speed and coordination of the transaction timings occur in a way that renders it highly unlikely these accounts are just selling their tokens / coins to a 3rd party. This is hard to replicate in transactions between two distinct, legit parties.

It is of course ideal to substantiate connection evidence with social media proofs, but there are problems that can arise from that as well (bounty hunters copying the details of other hunters, for instance). That's why every connection should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and presented in a manner so the majority of people who look into it can come to the same conclusion.

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I appreciate Rikafip research, good work. continue your job. you are best man in Bitcointalk. All others are just junk and burden on this forum.
Here we go again  Roll Eyes. Op, your aim of creating this thread was to bring to the forum's notice thst reports made by newbies are not taken serious, right? Well don't blame them for that because with what you've presented, it doesn't give enough reason for them to pay attention. Except you are operating with your alt, I don't see how a newbie should bother about reporting when they've not read and understood some of the forum rules?

 And again, it looks to me you are desperate for some form of cheap recognition that you went ahead to create this thread. Like others have supplied, report claims give by newbies are taken into consideration after the reporter must have supplied enough evidence to deem the account worthy of a proper check.
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Can you kindly point me to where it was stated so? Maybe I must have missed it. Embarrassed

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October 11, 2023, 09:12:17 PM
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Just because I sent some bitcoin to your wallet does not imply that we are connected. It happens all the time on the gaming board with our side bets.

This is a separate case and its not something you does regular than those of bounty hunters, whenever you notices a regular in and out of gas between addresses severally you should be able to detects that its a connected account. Although sometimes it could be is not one person controlling all those account but we need to be very careful whenever we are transacting and based on the forum drama we need to avoid sharing gas or btc between address to be free from this drama. There were other better ways to detects if the account belongs to one single user maybe constantly using same telegram id, facebook or twitter profile across both account then we can bold say such person are the owner of the both accounts and can be tag for cheating.  

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