Stop discouraging Newbies from Bitcoin...

[peter0425]

I also hate seeing many people here discouraging newbies to either Learn first or Never invest if you are not ready , because for me if we are talking about bitcoin ? the only knowledge the person should know is that the readiness to wait and risk.
buy now and wait for the bull run.
that is the only essence I believe matter in Bitcoin.
those other advises are for Altcoin or shitcoin investors because they are mostly the one that will fall into wrong decisioning and wrong buying.
but since this is bitcoin section and discussion , then why a need to big knowledge?
just learn your plans and capacity , but just only invest the amount you can carry to lose if ever there is a wrong turn in time.

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[Russlenat]

You see them saying things like “Bitcoin trading is not for newbies”

 Those comments are often from newcomers who may not yet see the full potential of trading. It's best to ignore them and not let their negativity affect your belief in the financial success that investing can bring.

In a diverse forum like this, you'll encounter people with various intentions - some genuinely willing to help, and others who seem intent on crushing dreams. Don't let it get to you. If you believe in your path, follow it. Words are just words, but what truly matters is the knowledge you gain on how to trade successfully.

And here's a good point to consider: all those successful traders out there, didn't they start as newbies too?  Keep learning, and you're bound to find the right strategy and information, as it's proven that anyone can become profitable in trading.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

That's a warning isn't it limiting beginners from getting involved in trading, you have to separate advice from limiting beginners' interest? They try to say something that happened according to reality that beginners are not advised to get involved in trading when they have not mastered technical or other basic things. There is nothing wrong with that reminder and for me reminding each other is an effort to maintain a level of sanity because we cannot live alone without listening to the advice of other people who are more experienced.

No one is born as a professional trader and that is why reminding each other is an effort to look after each other. Make criticism an effort for us to become more developed and in this online forum we must have thicker skin to respond to every person's criticism. If a person is not ready to accept criticism then this place is not suitable for him and I don't think there is anything wrong with such criticism.

[Out of mind]

I have noticed something about some people in this forum...

Why is it that everytime a newbie shows his or her interest in trading Bitcoin, some people will always try to discourage the newbie?  You see them saying things like “Bitcoin trading is not for newbies”

None of us here was born a professional trader, fact is that we all had to start from somewhere. We were all once a newbie, until we started learning and putting in the work.

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

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Thanks.

Mr. OP, I've never seen a single person discourage learning about newbies. When this newbie came to the forum and was interested in learning about Bitcoin, everyone helped him learn. Also, some people said that trading is not for newbies it is right that actually newbies don't have good idea and don't understand about trading this is said. And the purpose of saying this is so that a new person can learn about trading well and later he can profit. And if a newbie starts trading without knowing about trading, he will definitely lose money and take risk, that's why people agree to trading for newbies. You were also once a newbie and had no knowledge about Bitcoin and trading, but you gradually gained knowledge about them while gaining that experience. So if the newbies invest money there before they learn trading, they will definitely lose their money, that's why people advise the newbies to refrain from trading. Beginners should learn first and trade later, only then they can succeed, this logic should be kept in mind.

[Nheer]

Why is it that everytime a newbie shows his or her interest in trading Bitcoin, some people will always try to discourage the newbie?  You see them saying things like “Bitcoin trading is not for newbies”

None of us here was born a professional trader, fact is that we all had to start from somewhere. We were all once a newbie, until we started learning and putting in the work.

It’s not discouragement it’s and advice. This forum is a place where the members look out for one another and also they give you the best advice that will help you most especially in the long run. Most of the members have gone through dismissal situations and have made mistakes in the past so they are only advising newbies so they don’t make the same mistakes they did.

I have never seen or read something like trading is not for newbies rather they only advise them not to jump into trading and make sure to have knowledge about it first because most newbies will think trading is easy and doesn’t involve any risk and since people are making profits they would also make the same profits. Nobody was born as an expert true, but we seek knowledge first before we become an expert. Even with all the advice in the end they still need to decide on their own.

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

With the risk involved in trading they should not just rush into trading because it will not end well for them, they will end up losing a lot of money. Trading requires knowledge and even experts can not safely say they are going to make profit even with all the knowledge they acquired.

[Japinat]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It was not just learning from someone's mistake but our personal mistakes. And it is not just we learn but have to do something to avoid such events. Most newbies come to invest with empty knowledge about it and no wonder why they will lose. We often give advice to DYOR, spend time learning to trade, don't rush- and all we did are a sort of investment warnings but too unfortunate that many we're tend not to listen but instead make their own way.

If they only just know how risky Bitcoin investment is, I could imagine that only a few people could take it. But it is not what we see, more and more newbies come because of this - "instant profit" which is circulated on the internet.

[Lorence.xD]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It was not just learning from someone's mistake but our personal mistakes. And it is not just we learn but have to do something to avoid such events. Most newbies come to invest with empty knowledge about it and no wonder why they will lose. We often give advice to DYOR, spend time learning to trade, don't rush- and all we did are a sort of investment warnings but too unfortunate that many we're tend not to listen but instead make their own way.

If they only just know how risky Bitcoin investment is, I could imagine that only a few people could take it. But it is not what we see, more and more newbies come because of this - "instant profit" which is circulated on the internet.

I strongly agree, you don't rely your decisions and calls on someone's experience. I think some newbies rely too much into someone they consider expert but if they started to study Bitcoin and attain knowledge, they would realize that it's just the basics. It's not wise to risk your money at investment when the investor itself doesn't have any background info. The best thing to do is to explore it to yourself so you can be familiarize to the system without the help of anyone. To be honest, it would just doubt your own decision making when you ask for someone's experience. Just note to newbies that you can start small, if you lose that's fine, if you profit then that's actually good. It's a win-win situation if you do it on your own.

[Texac]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It was not just learning from someone's mistake but our personal mistakes. And it is not just we learn but have to do something to avoid such events. Most newbies come to invest with empty knowledge about it and no wonder why they will lose. We often give advice to DYOR, spend time learning to trade, don't rush- and all we did are a sort of investment warnings but too unfortunate that many we're tend not to listen but instead make their own way.

If they only just know how risky Bitcoin investment is, I could imagine that only a few people could take it. But it is not what we see, more and more newbies come because of this - "instant profit" which is circulated on the internet.

That's why I don't often and don't give too much advice to newbies.  to me, there is no more useful advice than letting them experience the market and learn their own lessons.  free advice and lessons are often looked down upon and only when they pay with their own money will they appreciate what they learn.  there is no better teacher than personal experience, so let beginners do what they think is right, newbies will be very stubborn so let the market teach them.

[Botnake]

If they only just know how risky Bitcoin investment is, I could imagine that only a few people could take it. But it is not what we see, more and more newbies come because of this - "instant profit" which is circulated on the internet.

It's unfortunate that many new investors are drawn in by the promise of quick profits and fall into the traps set by scammers. Some newbies even believe in unrealistically high monthly returns, like 10%, which often leads them into Ponzi schemes that capitalize on the popularity of Bitcoin.

Now, when it comes to genuine Bitcoin enthusiasts, it can be frustrating to see some newbies not conducting basic research before asking questions. These questions can often be easily answered through a quick Google search. As a Hero member, I believe that newbies should learn the ropes the hard way instead of being spoon-fed, as this is a valuable tool to help them avoid falling victim to scams in the risky world of cryptocurrency.

[Kasabus]

I can't deny that there are types of users who reply with words that are a little harsher than usual which might make beginners a little uncomfortable.
But believe me there are more friendly people here. Even though sometimes their delivery method is a little unfriendly, believe me it is for the good of the beginner. And it would indeed be better if the way of conveying information, whether in the form of criticism or suggestions, could be in language that was smoother but easier to understand.

But in discussion forums things like this are commonplace. And I actually enjoy the diversity of characters and characteristics of the users on this forum. Because this diversity makes everything more lively and not boring.

But I agree that we all start as beginners. And yes I understand how it felt when I was also a beginner. But what I do is continue to think positively and take lessons from everything I have gone through and encountered. Likewise on this forum. And after I felt how I was treated when I was a beginner, I also learned to treat them as best as I could.
So keep learning and stay enthusiastic. Because remember, sometimes a teacher who is strict with his students actually makes the students smarter. as long as the student continues to think positively about his teacher.

So keep positif thinking

We can't expect everyone to be always at their kind words on giving suggestions and criticisms, because we all know that everyone here has its own way of teaching and sharing their knowledge and experiences on the persons that needs their thoughts and advices. But rest assured that everyone here really aims for the best most especially when it comes to teaching newbies. However, my point is if you can't deal with those harsh words in the forum, then how would you expect to deal with the risks in trading when it's even more risky and dangerous for newbies? So the people here are just motivating those newbies to stay strong and positive minded despite of the high risks in trading, even if it means not using soft words that will encourage the newbies to learn trading.

[Twentyonepaylots]

I also hate seeing many people here discouraging newbies to either Learn first or Never invest if you are not ready , because for me if we are talking about bitcoin ? the only knowledge the person should know is that the readiness to wait and risk.

Hmm it is a bit of an accusation really. I think our community is healthy enough to tell newbies to learn first, read first, or explore first rather than 'Just buy and forget it, open it in 5 years'. The sentence "Never invest if you are not ready" isn't that harsh at all, this just means that you need to be ready if you want to invest and don't expect too much. I guess people only discourage someone if they know, from impression that the person who is asking isn't really into crypto or does not read first at all and began asking stuff about crypto, I won't discourage that kind of person, I'll just ignore it and let the my silence talk.

buy now and wait for the bull run.

When you said "readiness to wait" I'm not sure what you really mean by this.

[Rockstarguy]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It is not that bitcoin trading is not for newbies, the thing is that newbies should not rush into trading because of how complex and complicated bitcoin trading can be for newbies. If newbies wants to go into trading it is better for them to take their time and learn to understand it and never to rush to trade with huge amount.  I think newbies starting with a small fraction of capital will be better because this will be an experience that will help them as they proceed in trading . The truth is that  as trading is concerned everyone needs experience,  so it is needful for newbies to learn learn first and not to rush starting with a big capital to trade,  small capital will be better that one can afford to lose.

[Blitzboy]

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

That's a warning isn't it limiting beginners from getting involved in trading, you have to separate advice from limiting beginners' interest? They try to say something that happened according to reality that beginners are not advised to get involved in trading when they have not mastered technical or other basic things. There is nothing wrong with that reminder and for me reminding each other is an effort to maintain a level of sanity because we cannot live alone without listening to the advice of other people who are more experienced.

No one is born as a professional trader and that is why reminding each other is an effort to look after each other. Make criticism an effort for us to become more developed and in this online forum we must have thicker skin to respond to every person's criticism. If a person is not ready to accept criticism then this place is not suitable for him and I don't think there is anything wrong with such criticism.

Really now? We drag beginners back with "well-intentioned" advice every time they start Bitcoin? We know its risky and fickle. Isnt that the point of trading? If a newbie shouldnt trade without technical knowledge, how will they learn? Learning involves experience, mistakes, and losses. Bitcoin is a passion and future for many.

But this annoying issue continues recurring. Genuine advice is sometimes misinterpreted as discouragement. As you indicated, this site may not suit those who can't take criticism. Let's distinguish criticism from overprotection. The world of Bitcoin is huge, intriguing, and occasionally scary. But lets stop treating newcomers like fragile and let them experience Bitcoin trading's roller coaster.

[Spaceman1000$]

I have noticed something about some people in this forum...

Why is it that everytime a newbie shows his or her interest in trading Bitcoin, some people will always try to discourage the newbie?  You see them saying things like “Bitcoin trading is not for newbies”

None of us here was born a professional trader, fact is that we all had to start from somewhere. We were all once a newbie, until we started learning and putting in the work.

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

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Thanks.

I believe most persons try to make those discouraging remarks maybe because of their experience in trading. trading is not something you will just wake up and want to do as a newbie, considering how volatile the market is.
 you need to have a mentor or somebody you are under his tutelage to guide you on how to navigate the market. So don't really see it as a discouraging remark, just see it some sort of advise as against you going into what you're not well groomed on.
As a newbie without proper knowledge of the bitcoin market, trust me you will blow your account.

[dothebeats]

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

That's a warning isn't it limiting beginners from getting involved in trading, you have to separate advice from limiting beginners' interest? They try to say something that happened according to reality that beginners are not advised to get involved in trading when they have not mastered technical or other basic things. There is nothing wrong with that reminder and for me reminding each other is an effort to maintain a level of sanity because we cannot live alone without listening to the advice of other people who are more experienced.

No one is born as a professional trader and that is why reminding each other is an effort to look after each other. Make criticism an effort for us to become more developed and in this online forum we must have thicker skin to respond to every person's criticism. If a person is not ready to accept criticism then this place is not suitable for him and I don't think there is anything wrong with such criticism.

Really now? We drag beginners back with "well-intentioned" advice every time they start Bitcoin? We know its risky and fickle. Isnt that the point of trading? If a newbie shouldnt trade without technical knowledge, how will they learn? Learning involves experience, mistakes, and losses. Bitcoin is a passion and future for many.

But this annoying issue continues recurring. Genuine advice is sometimes misinterpreted as discouragement. As you indicated, this site may not suit those who can't take criticism. Let's distinguish criticism from overprotection. The world of Bitcoin is huge, intriguing, and occasionally scary. But lets stop treating newcomers like fragile and let them experience Bitcoin trading's roller coaster.

But then again those are just advice and our own take, the final decision is still in their hands. If they are really determine to invest or hold then they will continue to do so no matter what we say. It's not that we are treating newbies like they're fragile individuals, it's more like we're just being honest based on what we know and our experiences that answers their inquiries and questions, if they take that as a discouragement and take it to heart so much so that it pushes them to stop their Bitcoin journey then that's on them.

[Iroh]

It is not that bitcoin trading is not for newbies, the thing is that newbies should not rush into trading because of how complex and complicated bitcoin trading can be for newbies. If newbies wants to go into trading it is better for them to take their time and learn to understand it and never to rush to trade with huge amount.  I think newbies starting with a small fraction of capital will be better because this will be an experience that will help them as they proceed in trading . The truth is that  as trading is concerned everyone needs experience,  so it is needful for newbies to learn learn first and not to rush starting with a big capital to trade,  small capital will be better that one can afford to lose.

I get what you’re saying. If someone new to trading and decides to acquire knowledge while patiently learning the ropes, that person won’t be seen nor tagged as a newbie anymore after having sufficient understanding of what trading entails.
I had thought it was obvious I was speaking figuratively. I do know people are free to hastily and ignorantly involve themselves and their funds with something they are yet to reasonably understand.
Most newbies, perhaps being a bit too eager fail to fully grasp risks involved.

[uche6215]

Because trading is not foe those who don't have the basic knowledge about it and as a newbie you have not really grounded on the trading so if you went ahead and trade you will loss everything you have and that is why experts are advising people not to trade at the tender age of the trading platforms. If you will trade then you have to know the basic Elements of trading. But if you know that you can do that then no problem.

[n00ber]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It is not that bitcoin trading is not for newbies, the thing is that newbies should not rush into trading because of how complex and complicated bitcoin trading can be for newbies. If newbies wants to go into trading it is better for them to take their time and learn to understand it and never to rush to trade with huge amount.  I think newbies starting with a small fraction of capital will be better because this will be an experience that will help them as they proceed in trading . The truth is that  as trading is concerned everyone needs experience,  so it is needful for newbies to learn learn first and not to rush starting with a big capital to trade,  small capital will be better that one can afford to lose.

I also admit that trading is not for newbies as it will cause them more losses than profits. But I think there is nothing wrong with what OP said, I think instead we should not say that they should stay away from trading. Why don't we tell them to start with the minimum amount to avoid big losses. Because no matter how long you have been in the market or how much knowledge you have, without trading experience you will always be new to trading. Only when we participate in trading and gain experience from it can we become a professional trader. Everyone has a beginning and no one can become a professional trader with a lot of knowledge but no practical experience.

[DanWalker]

I think I’ll reiterate this popular opinion: Bitcoin trading isn’t for newbies.
It’s always best to learn from someone’s mistakes so when  the majority of opinions from other members recommends gaining more knowledge and experience, the last thing you should feel is discouraged.

It is not that bitcoin trading is not for newbies, the thing is that newbies should not rush into trading because of how complex and complicated bitcoin trading can be for newbies. If newbies wants to go into trading it is better for them to take their time and learn to understand it and never to rush to trade with huge amount.  I think newbies starting with a small fraction of capital will be better because this will be an experience that will help them as they proceed in trading . The truth is that  as trading is concerned everyone needs experience,  so it is needful for newbies to learn learn first and not to rush starting with a big capital to trade,  small capital will be better that one can afford to lose.

I also admit that trading is not for newbies as it will cause them more losses than profits. But I think there is nothing wrong with what OP said, I think instead we should not say that they should stay away from trading. Why don't we tell them to start with the minimum amount to avoid big losses. Because no matter how long you have been in the market or how much knowledge you have, without trading experience you will always be new to trading. Only when we participate in trading and gain experience from it can we become a professional trader. Everyone has a beginning and no one can become a professional trader with a lot of knowledge but no practical experience.

I agree with your views and opinions. Instead of always advising newbies to stay away from trading, we should advise them to start with the smallest capital to avoid serious losses. Because we will always be newbies if we do not experience it, whether it is trading or investing. Even if we are long-time holders, when we start trading, we are a newbie. So let the newbies start with what they want, and we just need to remind them to start with minimal capital. We shouldn't be harsh when giving advice as if we're pushing them away like the OP is thinking.

[Finestream]

So when you see a newbie ask for advice on how to start up on their journey in Bitcoin trading, don't try to discourage them, rather give them the advice on how they can start, and also let them be aware of the risks and how to avoid it. If we must grow the community, then we have to learn to encourage everyone to get along, and not try to discourage them.

Well that's how forums work, you ask something and people answer you, based on what they think is right. And it is a fact that vast majorify of people would have more bitcoin if they just hold what they have, instead of trying to increase it by trading. To be a successful trader you need years of practice and a lot of money spent and that's not something that an average trader is willing to do. Instead, they try trading for few months, lose money and probably never come back so why even start at the first place?

Bitcoin is for everyone, and no one should be left behind.

What trading has to do with it?

People in the forum do not like beating around the bush, instead they tell exactly direct to the point even if it means discouraging the newbies from trading because they aren’t supposed to trade in the first place. These people do not discouraged these newbies from bitcoin, but they want to simply warn those newbies not to engage in trading because they are still highly susceptible to losses. And knowing newbies when they suffer consistent losses, they end up blaming bitcoin, and refuse to admit that it’s their lack of knowledge and wrong mindset that made them suffer from trading losses.