What is this fascination with claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto?

[tjtonmoy]

Those who claim to be Satoshi only want popularity so that the projects they work on will get attention.
See how CSW does it by promoting BCH which is claimed to be the real Bitcoin.

It's quite ridiculous when anyone who claims to be Satoshi can't prove that they're really Satoshi,
instead of leading opinions with some active satoshi accounts and such.

Seems like a fair reason for anyone to claim to be Satoshi. All they want is to make money. And I have no idea how low they can get in order to achieve that. We don't believe in Satoshi. Because we still have no idea if he is only one person or a group of people. So it is better to not think about it too much. We believe in Bitcoin and that's all that matters.

If they can't prove their identity, then they are not Satoshi. It's that simple. Whoever have claimed to be Satoshi in the past was never able to provide any solid proof. I don't care about CSW or BCH. The Bitcoin has climbed up the stairs to reach this height so it is the real Bitcoin to us.

[Woodie]

Can't remember any of those names as time has passed but one name that stands out because of the extra length his gone trying to take that name/title is Craig Wright.

But why are they obsessed with claiming the name:

• There is money to be made out there, interview sitdowns will pay for exclusives
• Biography sales
• Projects could get him as an advisor, list is endless

But of course it's all for selfish reasons of which the real Satoshi disappeared for the very same reasons.

[carlfebz2]

Why are these people obsessed with being identified as Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin? In 2019 this website reported a list of self-proclaimed bitcoin founder;

• Ronald Keala Kua Maria
• Pakastani Bilal Khalid and his PR firm Ivy McLemore  
• Debo Jurgen Etienne Guido
• Jörg Molt
• Craig Wright
• Paul Calder Le Roux

There are more who have claimed to be Satoshi but why? Why do they want to be Satoshi so bad they look stupid to the public with all their self proclamation. In fact there are so many dangers in being Satoshi because he would be the center of every backlash, investigations, arrest warrants, and what have you. And besides, it would make no difference because he, Satoshi technically would have no say on how the bitcoin network should or should not run based on the consensus. Which other faketoshis do you know? And have you ever taken any of them seriously?

We dont know on whats up to their minds or on how they do really that look stupid on the things that they've been trying out to do on which trying out to claim to be Satoshi? There's no way that it could be proven out not unless if they could be able to move those those wallets which we've been known that it do belongs to Satoshi.I would say that this would really be only the proof on which we could really be able to accept that they are really Satoshi or else then they would really be just simply making themselves look like fraud.There's no way that they could be Satoshi.Hence, speaking about on anonymity then he wont really be just that simply making himself that would really be that known by the government on which it would really be a huge danger for it into his life basing up on the things that he had created which is Bitcoin which it did
really stir up that centralization on what fiat could offer or simply with that traditional monetary system.

You would really be needing to face up on whatever questions or whatever issues that would be thrown at you. This is why being known does have no point if i were Satoshi.
This is why its really that laughable if there's someone who do really make out such claims without even showing some solid proofs and come to think
that satoshi wont really be exposing himself so easily specially considering about those usual factors.

[Vaculin]

So basically, the people who claim to be Satoshi are nothing but narcissists? That is what I am getting whenever I see someone claiming to be such- I mean, who would want to have that kind of popularity?

The short answer is yes, they are narcissists. And they don't even care about "that" type of popularity, it's not important, they just want people to talk about them. And I think that they are not even that smart because if some criminal actually believes you are Satoshi that means that somewhere you and tens of billions of dollars, there are people who are willing to kill for $100, let alone what they could do if they think you have that kind of money. Good luck explaining it was all a joke...

Since they want to take the spotlight that is not intended for them, then obviously they are nothing but narcissists. All they want is that the world will recognize them, like the world is revolving in them. And no one wants to be in this situation not unless you want to be famous in exchange of your own dignity. And all of these people who claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto are sharing the same goal, to be famous and establish their name in the world, and next to it is to attract wealth with their names.

Although I have no hate against these people, but if they continue to pretend and fool the world that they are the real Satoshi, then clearly they're not actually in their right thinking. The more that we should not trust their names.

[abel1337]

So basically, the people who claim to be Satoshi are nothing but narcissists? That is what I am getting whenever I see someone claiming to be such- I mean, who would want to have that kind of popularity?

The short answer is yes, they are narcissists. And they don't even care about "that" type of popularity, it's not important, they just want people to talk about them. And I think that they are not even that smart because if some criminal actually believes you are Satoshi that means that somewhere you and tens of billions of dollars, there are people who are willing to kill for $100, let alone what they could do if they think you have that kind of money. Good luck explaining it was all a joke...

Since they want to take the spotlight that is not intended for them, then obviously they are nothing but narcissists. All they want is that the world will recognize them, like the world is revolving in them. And no one wants to be in this situation not unless you want to be famous in exchange of your own dignity. And all of these people who claim that they are Satoshi Nakamoto are sharing the same goal, to be famous and establish their name in the world, and next to it is to attract wealth with their names.

Although I have no hate against these people, but if they continue to pretend and fool the world that they are the real Satoshi, then clearly they're not actually in their right thinking. The more that we should not trust their names.

I agree with you. The more they say that they are satoshi nakamoto, the more they are making themselves looks like a fool. There are people who claimed to be satoshi nakamoto but no one up to now had accessed the account of the real satoshi nakamoto in this forum. I will personally believe anyone who claimed that he/she/they are satoshi nakamoto if our founder (satoshi account) posted it here in this forum. That is the only way that majority of us will be convince for sure, not just any court hearings or what so ever. People will just try to fake it till they make it but trying to prove that they are satoshi nakamoto won't make it to the cut.

[taufik123]

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We don't believe in Satoshi. Because we still have no idea if he is only one person or a group of people. So it is better to not think about it too much. We believe in Bitcoin and that's all that matters.

Yes, don't trust anyone, it will only lead you astray.
When you said about satoshi being a group or a person, I was reminded of the movie BIG MOUTH which is a crime fiction drama movie that tells the story of Bigh Mouth as a ruler who can do anything, and it is not known whether he is a group or a person.
But at the end of the story Big Mouth is an anti-government group and has many members.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21195490/

I don't care about CSW or BCH. The Bitcoin has climbed up the stairs to reach this height so it is the real Bitcoin to us.

Bitcoin is Bitcoin and it will never change or be replaced,
BCH or any other forked coin is just a parasite that will not grow and will even only be below Bitcoin.

[Strongkored]

Which other faketoshis do you know? And have you ever taken any of them seriously?

I don't know and in almost every news when someone claims he is Satoshi Nakamoto I am never interested in reading or finding out the truth, because I think it is not important to know whether the claim is true or not.
People who appear and claim to be Satoshi Nakamoto certainly want to gain popularity and it could be that he has his own agenda because he knows how popular this coin is and how many people are quite curious about its creator so that when he claims he will probably provide more profits when he does another thing in the crypto world, because we know the crypto world is filled with many fraudsters and the way he cheats is by starting to build trust from this large community.

[NotATether]

I don't understand why anybody would want to be Satoshi.

He is sitting on a huge stash of Bitcoins, worth (at the time of writing this) billions of dollars, so any casual crack-head who announces to the world to be Satoshi will inevitably be targeted by scammers and extortionists who would try to rob them of pretty much everything they've got. Since most of them certainly don't have millions to sit on themselves.

[Abiky]

Seems like a fair reason for anyone to claim to be Satoshi. All they want is to make money. And I have no idea how low they can get in order to achieve that. We don't believe in Satoshi. Because we still have no idea if he is only one person or a group of people. So it is better to not think about it too much. We believe in Bitcoin and that's all that matters.

If they can't prove their identity, then they are not Satoshi. It's that simple. Whoever have claimed to be Satoshi in the past was never able to provide any solid proof. I don't care about CSW or BCH. The Bitcoin has climbed up the stairs to reach this height so it is the real Bitcoin to us.

You've got it all wrong. It's not BCH that CSW is supporting, but rather BSV (Bitcoin SV). This little blockchain of his has proven to be a failed experiment. Especially when he proposed the "recovery" of dormant Bitcoins. Only his followers are using this useless "shitcoin". The rest of the people are carrying along as usual with the real Bitcoin (BTC).

I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the future we see another person claiming to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. People and the media will eventually get tired of all this nonsense as they focus on what matters most. It's not about Satoshi, but rather the community as a whole. Unless Satoshi's BTC holdings start moving on the Blockchain, we should have nothing to worry about.

[taufik123]

I don't understand why anybody would want to be Satoshi.

He is sitting on a huge stash of Bitcoins, worth (at the time of writing this) billions of dollars, so any casual crack-head who announces to the world to be Satoshi will inevitably be targeted by scammers and extortionists who would try to rob them of pretty much everything they've got. Since most of them certainly don't have millions to sit on themselves.

As I said earlier, they are looking for popularity in the crypto ecosystem and they are utilizing Satoshi's name as the driving force.
But somehow they didn't see how risky it would be if they claimed to be Satoshi and there were people who really believed it so that it became a criminal target to be able to take a lot of bitcoin from him.

Even owners of crypto assets with hundreds to millions of dollars are subjected to many scams and robbery attempts.
Publicizing the identity of crypto asset owners is dangerous and no one would want to do that when they know the risks involved.

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I wouldn't be surprised if sometime in the future we see another person claiming to be the real Satoshi Nakamoto. People and the media will eventually get tired of all this nonsense as they focus on what matters most. It's not about Satoshi, but rather the community as a whole. Unless Satoshi's BTC holdings start moving on the Blockchain, we should have nothing to worry about.

People will get tired of it, we can see how everyone is fed up with CSW and he is not even a trending topic anymore.
Always when bullish comes the figure of satoshi is always associated with appearing and so on. 

[tjtonmoy]

Yes, don't trust anyone, it will only lead you astray.
When you said about satoshi being a group or a person, I was reminded of the movie BIG MOUTH which is a crime fiction drama movie that tells the story of Bigh Mouth as a ruler who can do anything, and it is not known whether he is a group or a person.
But at the end of the story Big Mouth is an anti-government group and has many members.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt21195490/

I have actually watched that drama. It has a lot of suspense and a great storytelling. That also reminds me, The person that we are all looking for could be right beside us and we won't even know. I have speculated many times that the original boss of the big mouth group was someone else. Turns out, it's someone that you will never expect to be. I really enjoyed that drama to be honest.

Drama and entertainment aside, even if they are lurking around us that doesn't mean we need to dig out the truth. Bitcoin is better off without the truth and it is doing a great job being what it is meant to be. So let's just forget all that and focus on Bitcoin. when you are thirsty, you drink water. But you never think of who created it. And that's how Bitcoin is. Take the advantage as long as you can and don't think about who created it.

[Sanitough]

The reason is simple, they know how popular Bitcoin has become and how the whole world is adopting and admiring Bitcoin, and we know that when something becomes famous, people tend to become appreciative or praise the creator of that thing, and that is the exact reason why these people are trying their best to prove that they are Satoshi Nakamoto or at least claim to be. From the list you've provided, I've only known about Craig Wright.

I don't really understand what makes them think that the public will actually believe in them and accept that yes, one of them is actually Satoshi Nakamoto. Besides, how the hell do they know that Satoshi was actually an individual and it wasn't a group of people who created the technology?

That is still unknown until today since the name Satoshi has been active only until 2010 and after that we have not heard from him/them ever since. But the only reason I know why a lot of people are claiming the name of Satoshi because they just want to take advantage of bitcoin while its hot and  is very in demand. That means when it comes to scamming, they will have the opportunity to scam a lot of people if they will be convinced to believe on them.

I have no other possible reason that I can think when it comes to this kind of situation. If its not about money, then these people would not be so trying hard to convince and deceive other people even if the chance to be successful is very slim.

[Odusko]

Fake people always try to copy others, and since Satoshi Nakamoto has been out of Bitcoin science for such a long time and that has given room to some of those people to try to steal his identity if you ask me what their reasons are I will say they are out for the fame and nothing else, most of them want to take glory for what satoshi have done in developing a strong financial tool like Bitcoin that the whole has come to recognize it as the Internet money and this is enough for it creator to be a global celebrity which is what those identity thieves are after.
If anyone wants to prove to be Satoshi, it is easy, let they sign a message from one of Satoshi's old wallets

[taufik123]

-snip-
Drama and entertainment aside, even if they are lurking around us that doesn't mean we need to dig out the truth. Bitcoin is better off without the truth and it is doing a great job being what it is meant to be. So let's just forget all that and focus on Bitcoin. when you are thirsty, you drink water. But you never think of who created it. And that's how Bitcoin is. Take the advantage as long as you can and don't think about who created it.

Bitcoin with all its mysteries will be the story that makes Bitcoin even greater, we just have to let all this go without the truth being revealed.
Bitcoin continues to grow bigger because of the community support and technology that is needed today.
No matter who created it, the person or group behind the name Satoshi is just a great secret that does not have to be revealed.

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I have no other possible reason that I can think when it comes to this kind of situation. If its not about money, then these people would not be so trying hard to convince and deceive other people even if the chance to be successful is very slim.

Again, it's about money and popularity.
Whoever claims it early gets a lot of attention and they can build projects with the attention of many people.
The chances of success are slim and the risk of being hated is certainly something they have thought about.
But the more they are hated they will continue to get attention which makes them richer.

[btc78]

You might not remember how years ago everybody googled Dorian Nakamoto, but one of the reasons for every scammer claiming to be Satoshi is exactly that - popularity.
Dorian wasn't a scammer, but his case showed these people how you can use people's curiosity. After all, we'd all want to know who Satoshi was.

Have you noticed that whenever someone claims to be Satoshi, the press writes about it? You can be John Doe from Farmerville claiming to be the founder of Bitcoin and suddenly you're on Coindesk, CNBC, and so on... If you're notorious like Craig, you're going to be on Forbes, Wall Street Journal and invited to TV interviews.
It allows these people to make money because their social media get hits, projects that list them as founders or advisors amass more followers, they can promote all the scams they want because they have a popular name that comes up when you perform google searches.

So basically, the people who claim to be Satoshi are nothing but narcissists? That is what I am getting whenever I see someone claiming to be such- I mean, who would want to have that kind of popularity?

In all honesty, claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto is just nothing but dangerous. The guy has thousands of BTC which are not yet transferred from his wallet. Such person would just compromise their own safety and security for a short-timed fame which basically does nothing if they cannot prove their identity and association.

like you said these people are narcissists

narcissistic people often think that they’re invincible or can get away with anything most of the time people who claim different identities don’t really think of the consequences that they will face but rather what good it will bring them pretending to be satoshi is probably the most inviting thing ever i’ve seen people claim identities of people who have great evidences that they exist in real life and in the digital world imagine how “easy” it would be to pretend to be someone no one really knows? i’m guessing that’s their train of thought

[pinggoki]

That's easy, they just want to the fame around it and the temporary clout is a helpful way to gain some recognition in their name. I don't know the names of this people but I imagine that they're all businessmen that's trying to sell something and what better way to advertise your product and gain a small prominence than claiming that you're the legendary founder of bitcoin, and we know better that no one's going to believe these claims unless a substantial claim has been given then for now anyone will be a fake but not everyone is like the "esteemed" BTT forum members that knows how to think, there's bound to be some gullible schmuck that's going to believe those fakes and then these fakes will get a sale of what they're selling.

[OgNasty]

Someone claiming to be satoshi is a sure sign of a scammer. The real satoshi, if he was still alive, would never want anyone to know who he is. It would bring nothing but negative attention to himself and Bitcoin. People would use that information to undermine BTC and I’m sure there would be people trying to kidnap him. It’s just dumb to think anyone would want to be satoshi.

[Blitzboy]

That's easy, they just want to the fame around it and the temporary clout is a helpful way to gain some recognition in their name. I don't know the names of this people but I imagine that they're all businessmen that's trying to sell something and what better way to advertise your product and gain a small prominence than claiming that you're the legendary founder of bitcoin, and we know better that no one's going to believe these claims unless a substantial claim has been given then for now anyone will be a fake but not everyone is like the "esteemed" BTT forum members that knows how to think, there's bound to be some gullible schmuck that's going to believe those fakes and then these fakes will get a sale of what they're selling.

People who don't fully understand Bitcoin often say that it's a dangerous investment. For Bitcoin to work, as you said, you need to invest carefully and strategically. Risk, or the idea of it, is often just an illusion caused by not having enough information. Without knowing how the bear and bull markets work, how can someone think it's risky?

There is a point of view that should be taken into account when saying that investing in Bitcoin is just a measured risk and that losses are almost impossible to predict if you know how the market works. According to what you said, big men and women may keep talking about risk, but this could just be a sign of their own doubts and not a reflection of the asset itself. Buying during the bull market, holding on during the bear market, and planning for gains is the clear approach.

[dezoel]

Fake people always try to copy others, and since Satoshi Nakamoto has been out of Bitcoin science for such a long time and that has given room to some of those people to try to steal his identity if you ask me what their reasons are I will say they are out for the fame and nothing else, most of them want to take glory for what satoshi have done in developing a strong financial tool like Bitcoin that the whole has come to recognize it as the Internet money and this is enough for it creator to be a global celebrity which is what those identity thieves are after.
If anyone wants to prove to be Satoshi, it is easy, let they sign a message from one of Satoshi's old wallets

They know they can't prove anything, they are just looking for attention since the whole world knows Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies have been the biggest and the most long-lasting hype one could ever witness and these few people want to make use of that and gain some popularity and attention around the globe for claiming to be Satoshi, the creator of the best cryptocurrency which is considered to be one of the revolutionary inventions to the humankind so far.

So, even though whatever they say or do wouldn't prove anything and those who know about bitcoin and its history will know that they are lying, they are still achieving their target which is to get attention and here we are, discussing them and spreading their names around which means they are getting recognition, even if it's negative.