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October 14, 2023, 11:22:51 PM |
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After 15 years of being a pro, Demetrius Andrade will finally step up and face a real threat. Andrade has bounced around from promoter to promoter without ever really living up to expectations people had early in his career. I don't expect him to show anything different this time. Without much power to hurt Benavidez I don't think his awkward and lackluster style will be enough to win. By the way, the undercard of this fight will also feature a must-see fight Jermall Charlo will meet Jose Benavidez in the middleweight division this is Jermall Charlo's first fight after 2 years and five months, Jermall should be the one fighting Canelo but has to give way to his twin brother who eventually loses to Canelo, let's see if Jermall still has it after 2 years of inactivity, I still consider Jermall the heavy favorite in this match up. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/RwwEJ.jpegJose Benavidez has never been the same since he was shot in the leg. He was somewhat competitive against Crawford many years ago. Now he is more of a gatekeeper. Benavidez doesn't move well with only one good leg so he should be an easy target to hit. The fight is tailor made for Charlo to look good. All he needs to do is win convincingly enough and he has a good chance to get picked as an opponent for Canelo. I don't think he deserves that fight but considering how successful his brother's fight against Canelo was, despite being a mismatch, it seems very likely.
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October 15, 2023, 12:13:15 AM |
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After 15 years of being a pro, Demetrius Andrade will finally step up and face a real threat. Andrade has bounced around from promoter to promoter without ever really living up to expectations people had early in his career. I don't expect him to show anything different this time. Without much power to hurt Benavidez I don't think his awkward and lackluster style will be enough to win.
Andrade will become an ordinary fighter for Benavidez he is very used to fighting fighters with no power and ring generalships he'll have to run and duck a lot when those rapid punches by Benavidez overwhelm him but again this is a good tune fight for Benavidez for his desire to fight Canelo fighting an undefeated fighter who also has a burning desire to fight Canelo. Andrade once stormed Canelo's press conference and dared Canelo to fight him but of course, Canelo just ignored him as there were better fighters than Andrade that would attract more PPV sales, this is also Andrade's big chance to have a chance to meet Canelo in the ring.
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October 15, 2023, 01:22:26 AM |
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After 15 years of being a pro, Demetrius Andrade will finally step up and face a real threat. Andrade has bounced around from promoter to promoter without ever really living up to expectations people had early in his career. I don't expect him to show anything different this time. Without much power to hurt Benavidez I don't think his awkward and lackluster style will be enough to win.
That's the thing with Andrade though, coming in he has a lot of hype, but unfortunately he didn't live up to his name coming from amateur background. Yes, he did win belts, but still he is not a household name in the US. He doesn't have power as well for a southpaw and obviously David Benavidez is the bigger fighter here and has so much power. And the last time I check, Andrade is 4:1 underdog.
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October 15, 2023, 01:33:11 AM |
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Andrade's zero will most likely the one that will go away. He's much better during the height of his career. Props to him for keeping a perfect record all these years, but I think this will be the end of it. But it's going to be worth it because he will be fighting against a young star.
Benavidez will probably overwhelm Demetrius with his commanding blows. He definitely won't allow him to have time to relax. Benavidez is a busy fighter. Demetrius will have to train really hard to be able to keep up with Benavidez. His age is a big disadvantage for him.
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October 17, 2023, 11:04:13 AM |
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Andrade's zero will most likely the one that will go away. He's much better during the height of his career. Props to him for keeping a perfect record all these years, but I think this will be the end of it. But it's going to be worth it because he will be fighting against a young star.
Yeah, most likely he wants to give the perfect record, more so of choosing the right fighter. But we should give credit to him as he was a 2 division champion as well. And what David said, he respects Andrade, but for sure he wants to defeat him and take that zero from him. Benavidez will probably overwhelm Demetrius with his commanding blows. He definitely won't allow him to have time to relax. Benavidez is a busy fighter. Demetrius will have to train really hard to be able to keep up with Benavidez. His age is a big disadvantage for him.
If you look at the tale of the tape, Benavidez has all the advantage, he is young, longer reach, has the higher knockout percentage. And that's why he is a big favorite in this fight. Maybe the stance of Andrade could be a problem for Benavidez early, but if he is really that great, he can adjust or maybe having a sparring partner that can emulate the southpaw stance of Andrade. And for Andrade to win, he needs to take advantage of his southpaw as it may cause a problem for Benavidez. Of course, he needs a lot of movement so that he won't be cornered by Benavidez. So training hard to have that stamina if needed for a gruelling and hard 12 rounds.
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November 02, 2023, 08:05:47 PM |
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Reports surfaces that the undercard will include a non-title fight between Jermall Charlo vs José Benavídez Jr..
So this is the first time that we are going to see Jermall after a long layoff and see if he still has is (champ in recess). While Benavidez Jr wanted to also make a huge comeback. Slowly the undercard might turns out to be good for PPV as this is a big fight.
Date is official - November 25.
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November 03, 2023, 09:54:41 AM |
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Reports surfaces that the undercard will include a non-title fight between Jermall Charlo vs José Benavídez Jr..
So this is the first time that we are going to see Jermall after a long layoff and see if he still has is (champ in recess). While Benavidez Jr wanted to also make a huge comeback. Slowly the undercard might turns out to be good for PPV as this is a big fight.
Date is official - November 25.
I'm excited for that undercard fight (Jermall Charlo vs Benavidez Jr.) as i want to see if Jermall have already overcome the health issues that he had because if he has a great performance against Benavidez Jr, money fights will come but if it will be a boring one then he needs for tune-up fights before facing big names like Canelo or Crawford in a championship fight.
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November 03, 2023, 10:08:13 AM |
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Reports surfaces that the undercard will include a non-title fight between Jermall Charlo vs José Benavídez Jr..
So this is the first time that we are going to see Jermall after a long layoff and see if he still has is (champ in recess). While Benavidez Jr wanted to also make a huge comeback. Slowly the undercard might turns out to be good for PPV as this is a big fight.
Date is official - November 25.
It's more exciting to watch the undercard than the main event if you check the voting poll here, members think that Andrade has no chance to win against Benavidez at 9-1, Andrade has been daring Canelo to fight but it seems it's not going to happen as Benavidez is such a big wall to overcome. David is a huge monster, I'm 100% sure that he is the one Canelo is going to meet and if Canelo beats Benavidez Canelo can be considered the best fighter in the super middleweight in any era and Benavidez is the only fighter that stood to claim that title.
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btc_angela
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November 03, 2023, 01:54:55 PM |
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Reports surfaces that the undercard will include a non-title fight between Jermall Charlo vs José Benavídez Jr..
So this is the first time that we are going to see Jermall after a long layoff and see if he still has is (champ in recess). While Benavidez Jr wanted to also make a huge comeback. Slowly the undercard might turns out to be good for PPV as this is a big fight.
Date is official - November 25.
I'm excited for that undercard fight (Jermall Charlo vs Benavidez Jr.) as i want to see if Jermall have already overcome the health issues that he had because if he has a great performance against Benavidez Jr, money fights will come but if it will be a boring one then he needs for tune-up fights before facing big names like Canelo or Crawford in a championship fight. Yes mate, surprise to see the Jermall is finally back, but it's a question whether if he can still pull the trigger and specially if he is already mentally stable. It's also because his brother has lost to Canelo, so this might have a big effect on it. Could be positive as he will motivate again to comeback or it will have negative effect on his mind, so we will see. And far as his opponent goes, we all know that the Benavidez brothers are one of those who are really tough. So it's going to be as exciting as the main card if not greater. I think Jr is not that boring though, he is as exciting as his brother, he just needs to be consistent though.
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November 03, 2023, 08:11:24 PM |
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Reports surfaces that the undercard will include a non-title fight between Jermall Charlo vs José Benavídez Jr..
So this is the first time that we are going to see Jermall after a long layoff and see if he still has is (champ in recess). While Benavidez Jr wanted to also make a huge comeback. Slowly the undercard might turns out to be good for PPV as this is a big fight.
Date is official - November 25.
I'm excited for that undercard fight (Jermall Charlo vs Benavidez Jr.) as i want to see if Jermall have already overcome the health issues that he had because if he has a great performance against Benavidez Jr, money fights will come but if it will be a boring one then he needs for tune-up fights before facing big names like Canelo or Crawford in a championship fight. That's the big question, whether Jermall has overcome his mental health issues because it's been like 2 years already since we last saw him in the ring if I'm not mistaken. And both brothers are really that good, dominating 154 lbs to 160 lbs. What's interesting though is that promoters seems to be leveraging everything on the brothers right now. First it was Jermell who fought Canelo at 168 lbs so there's money for him already as that is a sweepstakes fight. Now, Jermall is given his comeback fight against a tough fighter in Benavidez Jr. So they are being favored right now or they are just lucky that they are getting this huge fight. Although you can't blame promoters as they are the defending champion from super welterweight to middleweight right now.
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November 04, 2023, 10:10:52 AM |
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
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November 04, 2023, 05:27:26 PM |
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
It's pretty obvious that Benavidez badly wants Canelo because it's not only all the Super Middleweight titles are at stake here, but another title that is at stake here, and also a big title is the title of the greatest Mexican fighter, I believe Canelo Alvarez already achieved that and Benavidez wants to take that away. And Canelo doesn't want this to happen, I'm sure Canelo is hoping that Andrade can upset Benavidez. And if Benavidez wins convincingly Canelo has no excuse not to fight Benavidez, the boxing organizations and the boxing community will demand it, and if this happens I have a feeling that this is going to be the biggest Mexican fight since the Barrera - Morales fight, it is a fight for Mexico's pound for pound fighter, and the Mexican boxing community will be a thrill to have this fight happen.
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
It's respect, the Benavidez knows that it's not going to be easy for them to win against Andrade. We might not like the resume of Andrade because he really hasn't face a name fighter during this prime years, however, who can't blame those boxers for not wanting to go after him? He is a smart fighter and that southpaw stance of him and his boxing IQ made it very difficult to beat him. And David take it as a challenge to be the first one since the Olympics to beat Andrade. I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
That is the bigger fish right there. Canelo Alvarez, and just like Manny Pacman during his prime years, everyone wanted to fight Canelo because of the huge paycheck that they will get and besides, have the entitlement to be the one who beat Canelo. I don't think that Alvarez can hide on the reason. Sooner or later fans are going to clamour for that fight and he should give us the fights that we wanted to see from him.
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November 04, 2023, 08:22:08 PM |
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
It's pretty obvious that Benavidez badly wants Canelo because it's not only all the Super Middleweight titles are at stake here, but another title that is at stake here, and also a big title is the title of the greatest Mexican fighter, I believe Canelo Alvarez already achieved that and Benavidez wants to take that away. And Canelo doesn't want this to happen, I'm sure Canelo is hoping that Andrade can upset Benavidez. Not sure if Canelo doesn't want this to happen, up to this point of his career, he is looking for more challenges, although he is no longer that young, he can still fight anyone he wants and beat them. In the beginning I have my speculations that he doesn't want or is afraid of Benavidez, but maybe he just want David to accomplished something before giving him that chance and winning against Demetrius by give his ticket for a fight against Alvarez. And if Benavidez wins convincingly Canelo has no excuse not to fight Benavidez, the boxing organizations and the boxing community will demand it, and if this happens I have a feeling that this is going to be the biggest Mexican fight since the Barrera - Morales fight, it is a fight for Mexico's pound for pound fighter, and the Mexican boxing community will be a thrill to have this fight happen.
That's one thing with Canelo though he listens to his fans, and the boxing community and he knows that he is going to be criticized if he retire and not giving the young Mexican the chance. Who is he going to fight next at this division? Morrel? most of the fans haven't heard of that guy and it will not bring any to Canelo's legacy, except that low risk high reward.
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November 04, 2023, 10:16:53 PM |
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
It's pretty obvious that Benavidez badly wants Canelo because it's not only all the Super Middleweight titles are at stake here, but another title that is at stake here, and also a big title is the title of the greatest Mexican fighter, I believe Canelo Alvarez already achieved that and Benavidez wants to take that away. And Canelo doesn't want this to happen, I'm sure Canelo is hoping that Andrade can upset Benavidez. Not sure if Canelo doesn't want this to happen, up to this point of his career, he is looking for more challenges, although he is no longer that young, he can still fight anyone he wants and beat them. In the beginning I have my speculations that he doesn't want or is afraid of Benavidez, but maybe he just want David to accomplished something before giving him that chance and winning against Demetrius by give his ticket for a fight against Alvarez. And if Benavidez wins convincingly Canelo has no excuse not to fight Benavidez, the boxing organizations and the boxing community will demand it, and if this happens I have a feeling that this is going to be the biggest Mexican fight since the Barrera - Morales fight, it is a fight for Mexico's pound for pound fighter, and the Mexican boxing community will be a thrill to have this fight happen.
That's one thing with Canelo though he listens to his fans, and the boxing community and he knows that he is going to be criticized if he retire and not giving the young Mexican the chance. Who is he going to fight next at this division? Morrel? most of the fans haven't heard of that guy and it will not bring any to Canelo's legacy, except that low risk high reward. Canelo has proven himself time and again in boxing he has beaten a lot of great champions and fighters but this Benavidez is one hell of a fighter every time I check his fight highlights on YouTube it gives me the idea that Canelo will have a hard time with this guy. Benavidez just comes forward and imposes himself, he is the type of guy who wants to mix up, and engage and is ready to receive punches so he can give his own, of course Canelo can beat this guy but he should be at his best when he fights this guy. Checking on the poll here : Benavidez by KO - 10 (90.9%) Benavidez by UD - 1 (9.1%) Benavidez got 90% of the vote and he will have that huge advantage come fight night.
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November 05, 2023, 08:35:23 AM |
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I don't know though, but it seems that there are no trash talking so far leading up to the fight. On the contrary, even Benavidez Sr is giving all praises to Demetrius Andrade as one if not the best fighter that his son is going to praise. A Olympian and held belts in 154 lbs and 160 lbs.
I think the target though of the Benavidez is Canelo Alvarez. But we will see, hopefully if they win here, Canelo might give him the title shot that they wanted for so long as it seems that Canelo is avoiding them and just hiding on the reasons of Alvarez doesn't want to fight another Mexican.
It's pretty obvious that Benavidez badly wants Canelo because it's not only all the Super Middleweight titles are at stake here, but another title that is at stake here, and also a big title is the title of the greatest Mexican fighter, I believe Canelo Alvarez already achieved that and Benavidez wants to take that away. And Canelo doesn't want this to happen, I'm sure Canelo is hoping that Andrade can upset Benavidez. Not sure if Canelo doesn't want this to happen, up to this point of his career, he is looking for more challenges, although he is no longer that young, he can still fight anyone he wants and beat them. In the beginning I have my speculations that he doesn't want or is afraid of Benavidez, but maybe he just want David to accomplished something before giving him that chance and winning against Demetrius by give his ticket for a fight against Alvarez. And if Benavidez wins convincingly Canelo has no excuse not to fight Benavidez, the boxing organizations and the boxing community will demand it, and if this happens I have a feeling that this is going to be the biggest Mexican fight since the Barrera - Morales fight, it is a fight for Mexico's pound for pound fighter, and the Mexican boxing community will be a thrill to have this fight happen.
That's one thing with Canelo though he listens to his fans, and the boxing community and he knows that he is going to be criticized if he retire and not giving the young Mexican the chance. Who is he going to fight next at this division? Morrel? most of the fans haven't heard of that guy and it will not bring any to Canelo's legacy, except that low risk high reward. Canelo has proven himself time and again in boxing he has beaten a lot of great champions and fighters but this Benavidez is one hell of a fighter every time I check his fight highlights on YouTube it gives me the idea that Canelo will have a hard time with this guy. Benavidez just comes forward and imposes himself, he is the type of guy who wants to mix up, and engage and is ready to receive punches so he can give his own, of course Canelo can beat this guy but he should be at his best when he fights this guy. Checking on the poll here : Benavidez by KO - 10 (90.9%) Benavidez by UD - 1 (9.1%) Benavidez got 90% of the vote and he will have that huge advantage come fight night. That's one thing with David or even with his brother, they will always imposed their will in the beginning of the fight. Just like the bullies, and so far he hasn't found one that can go against him. Caleb Plant was supposed to do that, but he usually faded in the later round although he is dangerous with his hook. The big difference is that when his brother faces Crawford, it was a different story. But anyhow, in this fight we will see if he can do that against a southpaw in Andrade and also with a high boxing IQ. It could be different if he can imposed his will as Andrade might give him that hard time and will be on the defense and this goes on offense as David might find it very hard to fight against left handers.
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Not sure if everyone has heard of Andre Berto before, he was one of the best 147 lbs about 10 years or more ago. He held the WBC belt before losing to Victor Ortiz. And we will have his revenge to another man who beat him, Robert "The Ghost" Guererro, another good fighter in that era. But both of them are already way past their primes already and it jus surprises that this two are going to square it off. https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/andre-berto-fighting-robert-guerrero-in-rematch-on-november-25th/They will be on the undercard of Benavidez vs Andrade.
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^^ Yeah, familiar with Berto and I will say that his he was like Broner, minus the trash talking. He had a good skills back then and if I remember correctly, he is supposedly to fight Mosley then, after Mosley beat Margarito. But a big earth quake hits Haiti (where Andre's family came from), so he has to go there and raise money for the country.
And after that, he goes back fighting but it seems that he has lost his hype already. He was one of Floyd's hit list and so they fought. But we all know that nobody beats Mayweather and so Berto looks very amateurish in that fight.
Obviously this is for the money and not for the revenge against another old fighter in Guererro. I don't know how this old boxers can still get a fight in a very good match like this one.
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November 09, 2023, 09:02:43 AM |
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Not sure if everyone has heard of Andre Berto before, he was one of the best 147 lbs about 10 years or more ago. He held the WBC belt before losing to Victor Ortiz. And we will have his revenge to another man who beat him, Robert "The Ghost" Guererro, another good fighter in that era. But both of them are already way past their primes already and it jus surprises that this two are going to square it off. https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/andre-berto-fighting-robert-guerrero-in-rematch-on-november-25th/They will be on the undercard of Benavidez vs Andrade. Berto’s been retired for 5 years and Guerrero should’ve stayed retired after announcing it 6 years ago. This fight really makes no sense. These old guys shouldn’t still be taking punishment. It’s a really bad look for the sport. They will never be contenders again and the money would be better invested in developing younger talent, which is something PBC really needs to improve on.
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November 09, 2023, 10:54:54 AM |
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Not sure if everyone has heard of Andre Berto before, he was one of the best 147 lbs about 10 years or more ago. He held the WBC belt before losing to Victor Ortiz. And we will have his revenge to another man who beat him, Robert "The Ghost" Guererro, another good fighter in that era. But both of them are already way past their primes already and it jus surprises that this two are going to square it off. https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/11/andre-berto-fighting-robert-guerrero-in-rematch-on-november-25th/They will be on the undercard of Benavidez vs Andrade. Berto’s been retired for 5 years and Guerrero should’ve stayed retired after announcing it 6 years ago. This fight really makes no sense. These old guys shouldn’t still be taking punishment. It’s a really bad look for the sport. They will never be contenders again and the money would be better invested in developing younger talent, which is something PBC really needs to improve on. And it just shows how powerful Al Haymon is, I mean he can still inserted this fighters even if they seems to be no longer in their prime years. And they are like giving them a big favor as the paycheck will come to them, might be just in the 6 digits, but still that is a big numbers if they guys have retired for good already. So not buying the whole revenge narrative, and even who wins in this fight, it should be no bearing for the rankings. But at least either one of them will like to become a stepping stone for the young guys, then they might continue to fight at least one more.
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