? Trust Score Not Shown In Bitcoin Discussion Board?

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Honest question here, and forgive me if a question like this have been asked before, just asking out of curiosity and nothing really that important..

I know this have probably been there for ages but it seems I am just noticing after all, was just scrolling through a thread this morning and reading comment, I saw a comment from one user and immediately got interested to see the user's trust Score, that was how I discovered that trust scores is not displayed in Bitcoin Discussion Board, and I was curious to know why..

Any body or user with an idea why a user's trust Score is not shown in Bitcoin Discussion Board?

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[hilariousandco]

Because theymos believes it's not relevant there and shouldn't be relevant to discussion. It's not shown in Politics or this sub either.

[Charles-Tim]

It will show in trading discussion and its child board. Also it will show in marketplace and its child boards. In all other bitcoin boards, it is not showing.

[tranthidung]

Because theymos believes it's not relevant there and shouldn't be relevant to discussion. It's not shown in Politics or this sub either.

Also like in Meta board, no Trust score display as you don't trade anything in Meta board.

Trust score is not display for forum guests or users who don't log in their accounts. After long time of community request, theymos deploys this one

Logged-out users will now see a warning in trust-enabled sections if more DT members neg-trust the topic starter than positive-trust him.

This increases the responsibility of DT members not to give negative trust for stupid reasons, but only for things that cause you to believe that the person is a scammer.

[Zoomic]

Trust score does not display in boards were trading is likely not to occur. This shows the real purpose of trust score and I can confidently say that many members of this forum are misusing the trust score. The trust feedback is only for trading and business purposes. Nowadays, I have seen people give feedback like;
This user is a spammer
This account is bought or hacked
This person is reputable in the forum
There might be misuses although, but let the trust feedback be for its purposes.

[hg_away]

From its name, it is linked to the market or places where transactions take place, not the boards designated for discussions. Also, its display may affect the quality of discussions, given that when people do not trust someone, they may question his ideas.

[Helena Yu]

Above members already answer it, but to be honest it's important to show the trust score in every boards because it help people who want to send merit or replying the thread. Some users don't want to send merit or replying to red trust account due to some personal reasons.

This user is a spammer
This account is bought or hacked
This person is reputable in the forum
There might be misuses although, but let the trust feedback be for its purposes.

If you think such feedback are misuses of trust feedback, you need to distrust those DT members who left that feedback. Trust or distrust an user is one of contribution for trust feedback to achieve it's purpose. It's not right to let someone did something wrong.

[Jegileman]

I know this have probably been there for ages but it seems I am just noticing after all, was just scrolling through a thread this morning and reading comment, I saw a comment from one user and immediately got interested to see the user's trust Score, that was how I discovered that trust scores is not displayed in Bitcoin Discussion Board, and I was curious to know why..

I have noticed that for a while also that trust score don’t show on all boards in the forum. I came to realise that those trust scores are only shown on boards that are relevant for you to check the trust of the user before having anything to deal with that person. I like it that way and it really proves the importance of trust score in the forum.

[TheUltraElite]

I have noticed that for a while also that trust score don’t show on all boards in the forum. I came to realise that those trust scores are only shown on boards that are relevant for you to check the trust of the user before having anything to deal with that person. I like it that way and it really proves the importance of trust score in the forum.

The trust system was created with the objective to mark users who have completed trades and thus can be "considered" trustworthy of another trade. Eventually this became a method to mark scammers too, because the same boon and be a bane for those who are not trustworthy.

Hence Marketplace, Trading Discussion and its child boards are where you will be shown Trust scores by default on the Global forum. Those are the ones pertaining to use of "trust" mechanic.

Extrapolated, it started incorporating other types of fraud, like campaign cheaters.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I recently asked a similar question about the old negative trust feedback that shows up with a red warning, like the newbie flags of today. I got a similar answer to the one in this thread, as they are related.

Because in some boards like Bitcoin Discussion, Bitcoin Technical Support etc. User trust ratings for any member posting there are hidden so the same applies to that red banner as viewed by guest users

[Coyster]

Above members already answer it, but to be honest it's important to show the trust score in every boards because it help people who want to send merit or replying the thread. Some users don't want to send merit or replying to red trust account due to some personal reasons.

It is not necessary for it to be displayed in all boards, moreover if you are interested in the trust page of a particular user, just two clicks would take you to their trust page, so i don't think that should be a hassle for anyone. BTW, merits should be sent to quality posts irrespective of whoever made such posts, it shouldn't matter what their trust page says, and if you don't want to reply or have any discussion with a user, just add them to your ignore list.

[SamReomo]

Trust score does not display in boards were trading is likely not to occur. This shows the real purpose of trust score and I can confidently say that many members of this forum are misusing the trust score. The trust feedback is only for trading and business purposes. Nowadays, I have seen people give feedback like;
This user is a spammer
This account is bought or hacked
This person is reputable in the forum
There might be misuses although, but let the trust feedback be for its purposes.

That's not 100% right because I have noticed that trust score shows on boards which have nothing to do with trading. I have seen it in "mining board", "altcoin boards" that aren't related to trading at all. And, I really agree that trust score was basically introduced to help protect the members of the forum from the scammers.

I agree with your points but still the members who left those type of feedback are doing good for the forum. A person who contributes good information on forum will always get appreciation from the other members of the forum in the form of a positive feedback. The ones who buy accounts are mostly frauds and that's why members leave feedback like that to warn the users to be careful from such users.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Because theymos believes it's not relevant there and shouldn't be relevant to discussion. It's not shown in Politics or this sub either.

I knew it didn't show up in one or two sections, but I'll be damned if I ever paid attention to the trust stats being missing.  I thought about it for a few minutes, and I'm of two minds about Theymos's decision to do that.  On the one hand, a positive or negative trust score could definitely influence how other members weigh the posts of the person with that trust, which could be very unfair in most cases.  That's being pretty damn fair, I'd say.

On the other hand, as we all know trust can be given for any reason and if a DT member tags an account for changing hands (*ahem*), that might be something you'd want to look into if you were curious when reading a post written by that account.  You could be thinking you're reading something by someone who's not who you think they are. 

And dammit, that's as far as my fatigued, pea brain got in cerebrating on the topic at hand.  If I had to weigh the points I made above I'd have to say it's better to keep it like it is.  The less unnecessary bias the better, I say.

[PytagoraZ]

Honest question here, and forgive me if a question like this have been asked before, just asking out of curiosity and nothing really that important..

I know this have probably been there for ages but it seems I am just noticing after all, was just scrolling through a thread this morning and reading comment, I saw a comment from one user and immediately got interested to see the user's trust Score, that was how I discovered that trust scores is not displayed in Bitcoin Discussion Board, and I was curious to know why..

Any body or user with an idea why a user's trust Score is not shown in Bitcoin Discussion Board?

I don't know its early history, perhaps because there were no transactions taking place in bitcoin discussions, there was no need to display a trust system on the board. As far as I have read, trust systems function to avoid fraud and/or anything related to money and trust systems do not function for discussion and/or differences of opinion.

[Husires]

This user is a spammer
This account is bought or hacked
This person is reputable in the forum
There might be misuses although, but let the trust feedback be for its purposes.

If you think such feedback are misuses of trust feedback, you need to distrust those DT members who left that feedback. Trust or distrust an user is one of contribution for trust feedback to achieve it's purpose. It's not right to let someone did something wrong.

Leaving a negative trust on an account because it was bought or hacked is necessary because it is an indication that this user is no longer the real owner of the account and that when you were dealing with the account you were dealing with the real owner and not a scammer who stole the account.
This user is a spammer, usually as a neutral trust and as an alert to the campaign manager.

you may not agree with some trust feedback of some users, but the overall impression should be the reason for adding or removing any member.

[Helena Yu]

It is not necessary for it to be displayed in all boards, moreover if you are interested in the trust page of a particular user, just two clicks would take you to their trust page, so i don't think that should be a hassle for anyone. BTW, merits should be sent to quality posts irrespective of whoever made such posts, it shouldn't matter what their trust page says,

It's called wasting time, having the trust feedback is visible will not make you to click the profile.

I completely understand if merit should be rewarded for the post quality regardless the account, but the reality is different with the expectation. I'm pointing out with the reality where people merit because of the trust feedback, merit send, local users, friends, etc.

and if you don't want to reply or have any discussion with a user, just add them to your ignore list.

Lol, there's no correlation with my point above.

[hilariousandco]

Because theymos believes it's not relevant there and shouldn't be relevant to discussion. It's not shown in Politics or this sub either.

I knew it didn't show up in one or two sections, but I'll be damned if I ever paid attention to the trust stats being missing.  I thought about it for a few minutes, and I'm of two minds about Theymos's decision to do that.  On the one hand, a positive or negative trust score could definitely influence how other members weigh the posts of the person with that trust, which could be very unfair in most cases.  That's being pretty damn fair, I'd say.

Well that's his exact reasoning and I have seen people use people's trust score in arguments before before as an off topic ad hominem attack just to dismiss what someone is saying, so it can and does influence how some people perceive others even though it might have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[digaran]

From its name, it is linked to the market or places where transactions take place, not the boards designated for discussions. Also, its display may affect the quality of discussions, given that when people do not trust someone, they may question his ideas.

Isn't that exactly what mainstream media doing? Discredit or defame who ever they don't like.
And if someone is influenced purely by a trust feedback no matter what the person is saying, whether they are quoting Shakespeare or Descartes, if you dismiss them simply because the person has neg, or if you take it to your heart and follow that person step by step because of pos trust.

Well then, congratulations you have been successfully manipulated by social engineering tactics like 90% of people on earth.
I wonder, do people trade in all of the mining boards to have trust system enabled there?  Also note that we have some topics posted on project development board which requires a level of trust and even involves purchases. Shouldn't trust be displayed there?

Even if it's displayed, default  trust score holds no value in a system based on pure anarchism, after all not everyone can be like Satoshi to eliminate the need of trust by writing codes and protocols, nobody is even trying to be like him.

[mikeywith]

Given the nature of the trust system, it's easy to get your profile painted in red for something that has nothing to do with you being untrustworthy, initially, and supposedly the trust score shouldn't be there to begin with, it is supposed to be that whenever you want to trade with someone, you visit their profile and check the feedback one by one to see if they make any substantial evidence that this user is not to be trusted or vice versa because it's possible that you refrain from dealing with someone who has 2 negative feedback just because of some nonsense.

For the most part, the trust system is "okay"-- it gives you a general idea about the persona behind the profile, but it's indeed not enough to judge the trustworthiness of said persona, having that displayed in all sections causes more harm than good, as a reasonable person you would want to hear about a security leak found in your wallet from anyone regardless of their profile status, now imagine someone with a few negative feedback in the technical discussion writing a comment of that nature, you will likely automatically discard that comment and move on to the next comment written by someone with 5 positive feedback telling you not to listen to the person above.

I wonder, do people trade in all of the mining boards to have trust system enabled there?

In most boards some level of "trade" happens, people offer repair services, a new mining pool, a new firmware, etc., so it does make some sense to have the trust displayed there, but when you have a discussion about increasing BTC block size in the Bitcoin Discussion Board, you are unlikely to have any sort of trades with the users there.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Well that's his exact reasoning and I have seen people use people's trust score in arguments before before as an off topic ad hominem attack just to dismiss what someone is saying, so it can and does influence how some people perceive others even though it might have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

I don't think that's exactly what you mean, but that's what happens to me on the Scam Accusation board. I see a member with his profile painted red saying he's been scammed and in principle I'm more sceptical than if he had a dozen green ones, as I think is normal. A case in point would be this.