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Question: Who will win?
Subriel Matias - 2 (33.3%)
Shohjahon Ergashev - 4 (66.7%)
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October 14, 2023, 05:37:10 AM
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And being under another great fight in Benavidez vs Andrade, the exposure will really bring them closer to boxing fans.


It's a smart move by the promoters. These fighters aren't very popular, so they might have some difficulty marketing the fight. However, since it's now the undercard of a big event, it's almost guaranteed that this will be the final date, and the promoters won't have to worry about whether people will buy the PPV or attend the venue. In the same division as Matias, there are other champions who are more popular; they could easily set their fight as the main event. This one just doesn't seem like a go-to choice.

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November 25, 2023, 06:59:07 AM
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Love to see when they want to get at it during the weigh in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D157qKFGr0

Probably one of the most underrated fight for this year, but for sure since both are knockout artist this could be also a explosive fight.

Good thing is that they make the weight, no issues whatsoever, so this is also good to go.

Ergashev, a big underdog 3:1 but he could really test Matias here.

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November 25, 2023, 03:55:21 PM
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Love to see when they want to get at it during the weigh in,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D157qKFGr0

Probably one of the most underrated fight for this year, but for sure since both are knockout artist this could be also a explosive fight.

Good thing is that they make the weight, no issues whatsoever, so this is also good to go.

Ergashev, a big underdog 3:1 but he could really test Matias here.

I'm not going to miss this one as much as I don't want to miss the Benavidez - Andrade match, I hope it will not become another Stevenson - Delos Santos match because both fighters have good records they will avoid each other, I don't want to see that kind of fight ever again.

I hope they lived up to their record honestly this is the first fight I will see Matias and Ergashev fight and I expect an all-out fight because they both want to protect the 0 in their records.
OP should change the title, members might think that this fight is already over because of the wrong date on the title.

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November 25, 2023, 04:02:48 PM
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And being under another great fight in Benavidez vs Andrade, the exposure will really bring them closer to boxing fans.


It's a smart move by the promoters. These fighters aren't very popular, so they might have some difficulty marketing the fight. However, since it's now the undercard of a big event, it's almost guaranteed that this will be the final date, and the promoters won't have to worry about whether people will buy the PPV or attend the venue. In the same division as Matias, there are other champions who are more popular; they could easily set their fight as the main event. This one just doesn't seem like a go-to choice.
Yes this must be the trials of promoters if this fight go for main event cause we are all know that both fighters are not yet popular so there's a chance that they will feel too hard to sell the tickets as we all know that people nowadays must prefer to watch on thier phone or in thier TV once the fighter didn't popular yet. Unlike to those popular one people will make a way to watch the life event cause it's a pleasure to watch the fight of our idols.

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November 25, 2023, 10:35:46 PM
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Here is the official weigh-in for both fighters, both fighters are confident and very eager to face each other, so much is at stake for both fighters not only the title, but the 0 on their record I think both fighters are each other and would be the toughest opponent.
I expect nothing less than a knockout here both fighters have impressive knockout records, especially Matias, whoever wins this match I am sure will make a good impression in the boxing community and will be considered as a promising boxer to fight for more titles in the future.
I will not change my pick I still go for Ergashev here I still he has a better skill between the two.


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November 25, 2023, 11:00:02 PM
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Here is the official weigh-in for both fighters, both fighters are confident and very eager to face each other, so much is at stake for both fighters not only the title, but the 0 on their record I think both fighters are each other and would be the toughest opponent.
I expect nothing less than a knockout here both fighters have impressive knockout records, especially Matias, whoever wins this match I am sure will make a good impression in the boxing community and will be considered as a promising boxer to fight for more titles in the future.
I will not change my pick I still go for Ergashev here I still he has a better skill between the two.

I agree, this is a make or break fight for either fighter, Matias is the odd man out at the 140 lbs division, what I mean is that he is the only champion not recognized or unknown to some boxing fans as he is the IBF champion.

We have Prograis - WBC, Teo Lopez - WBO, Rolly Romero - WBA.

So anyone who's going to win can either face those champions for unification and cemented their names in this weight class.

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Here is the official weigh-in for both fighters, both fighters are confident and very eager to face each other, so much is at stake for both fighters not only the title, but the 0 on their record I think both fighters are each other and would be the toughest opponent.
I expect nothing less than a knockout here both fighters have impressive knockout records, especially Matias, whoever wins this match I am sure will make a good impression in the boxing community and will be considered as a promising boxer to fight for more titles in the future.
I will not change my pick I still go for Ergashev here I still he has a better skill between the two.


This two fighter and their fans was long waited for this match,So this will be the biggest gift for the fans of Subriel and Ergashev.The Ergashev had more fans comared to the Subriel Matias.We need to wait till November 4 for this match,but the fact was the match days was counted by the fans daily till the November 4.S Ergashev had the more chance of winning in the November 4 match.Because many people predict of the win by the Knock out in the match.The draw for this match was in the huge chance but the fan of Ergashev will look for the knock out match expected to the gambler to bet for the odd on the good win at the final result.
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November 26, 2023, 12:44:43 AM
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Here is the official weigh-in for both fighters, both fighters are confident and very eager to face each other, so much is at stake for both fighters not only the title, but the 0 on their record I think both fighters are each other and would be the toughest opponent.
I expect nothing less than a knockout here both fighters have impressive knockout records, especially Matias, whoever wins this match I am sure will make a good impression in the boxing community and will be considered as a promising boxer to fight for more titles in the future.
I will not change my pick I still go for Ergashev here I still he has a better skill between the two.

Someone's 0 is going to be replace by that 1 L in records, so for sure they want to protect it as all cost. But the odds says that Matias is the clear favorite as he is the defending champion. But for us fans, if two undefeated fighters faces each other, for sure there will be a lot of action and knockdown or knockout.

So let's see who's career are going to move after this fight. 140 lbs seems to weak though, no more unified champion. But we still have some names to boot like the lineal champion in Teo Lopez or maybe the winner between Prograis vs Haney.

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November 26, 2023, 02:58:16 AM
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Subriel Mathias retains his title by making Ergashev quit, he started slow but eventually, picked up the pace and systematically broke down Ergashev, Subriel fought a great fight he just ate up Ergashev's punches and poured his own punches, intelligent fight by Subriel against a guy who is considered very dangerous, he has hurdle the best obstacle of his fight by beating  Ergashev it looks like we have Romero, Lopez and other champions will have a hard time against Subriel.
He is now 24-0-24, this is an awesome record, he is now under the radar of champions like Haney, Romero, and Lopez.
He is now a fighter to watch after this fight.

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It's a surprising turn of events, Ergashev is doing great and I thought Ergashev was going to knock out Matias in the first round and will dictate the tempo of he fight but what happens is Matias took over after round 2 sensing that Ergashev couldn't hurt him.
You may be a hard puncher but if you cannot take a punch you will be in trouble, Matias can take Ergashev's punches but unfortunately, Ergashev couldn't take Matias's punches.

Subriel proves himself a more systematic fighter, breaking down Ergashev until he can't take it anymore, with this win Matias has proven that he can be a nig name in a division where there are big names ruling from other organizations


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November 26, 2023, 07:10:52 AM
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It's a surprising turn of events, Ergashev is doing great and I thought Ergashev was going to knock out Matias in the first round and will dictate the tempo of he fight but what happens is Matias took over after round 2 sensing that Ergashev couldn't hurt him.
You may be a hard puncher but if you cannot take a punch you will be in trouble, Matias can take Ergashev's punches but unfortunately, Ergashev couldn't take Matias's punches.

Subriel proves himself a more systematic fighter, breaking down Ergashev until he can't take it anymore, with this win Matias has proven that he can be a nig name in a division where there are big names ruling from other organizations

Good observation, he was able to take the best punches of Ergashev, but after a couple of rounds, he figure him out and that he can take his power. And so he takes over, systematically breaking Ergashev in every round. Although Subriel is Puerto Rican, he trains in Mexico and probably adopted that style as well that's why he is very tough.

I like him to go with the champions in this division, he has the belt so now sure who among the current bred are willing to face a tough champion like him. Maybe Teo will be open for a unification, but not sure though, maybe the risk is too high for them and could demand more money just to avoid for Subriel.
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Subriel Mathias retains his title by making Ergashev quit, he started slow but eventually, picked up the pace and systematically broke down Ergashev, Subriel fought a great fight he just ate up Ergashev's punches and poured his own punches, intelligent fight by Subriel against a guy who is considered very dangerous, he has hurdle the best obstacle of his fight by beating  Ergashev it looks like we have Romero, Lopez and other champions will have a hard time against Subriel.
He is now 24-0-24, this is an awesome record, he is now under the radar of champions like Haney, Romero, and Lopez.
He is now a fighter to watch after this fight.

Yes, he is still with a perfect record and he shows in this fight that he can take punishment too and has a good chin. It was test for his early as Ergashev is coming strong with power. But he wasn't able to sustain that kind of pace and maybe when he realized that his power doesn't have any effect on Matias, he started to doubt himself as the round goes and so he quit.

I do agree, Prograis, Romero and Lopez will be a good matchup for him. His style is definitely makes the fights very difficult for this fighter. But let's see if they are willing to fight a pressure fighter like Matias.

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Yes, he is still with a perfect record and he shows in this fight that he can take punishment too and has a good chin. It was test for his early as Ergashev is coming strong with power. But he wasn't able to sustain that kind of pace and maybe when he realized that his power doesn't have any effect on Matias, he started to doubt himself as the round goes and so he quit.

I do agree, Prograis, Romero and Lopez will be a good matchup for him. His style is definitely makes the fights very difficult for this fighter. But let's see if they are willing to fight a pressure fighter like Matias.
Ergashev has solid punches but unfortunately for him, Matias can take those punches and he has a good defense, he alluded to and blocked those hard punches while Ergashev was having a hard time with his defense, and Matias kept pressuring him, Matias proved to be a better fighter between the two this is his biggest opponent so far with a very good record and he made it so easy.
With the way he fights, he can take other popular champions in his division like Romero and Lopez, and can beat these guys.

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I do agree, Prograis, Romero and Lopez will be a good matchup for him. His style is definitely makes the fights very difficult for this fighter. But let's see if they are willing to fight a pressure fighter like Matias.

I admire Matias and I became an instant fan he is a pressure fighter he knows his opponent, Ergashev will move a lot because of his good lateral movements but he gambles by moving forward and preparing to get hit so he can get a hit, Ergashev may be surprised how Matias stood his best punches, between the two Ergashev is the power puncher, based on the statement of a fighter whom they both beat.
I don't think Ergashev's excuse of having a leg cramp was true, he just couldn't take Matias's punches it was very obvious in his reaction whenever he was hit by Matias's punches.
Romero and Lopez will have a hard time, fighting Matias, his style is very different and hard to deal with.

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November 27, 2023, 05:38:17 AM
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Yes, he is still with a perfect record and he shows in this fight that he can take punishment too and has a good chin. It was test for his early as Ergashev is coming strong with power. But he wasn't able to sustain that kind of pace and maybe when he realized that his power doesn't have any effect on Matias, he started to doubt himself as the round goes and so he quit.

I do agree, Prograis, Romero and Lopez will be a good matchup for him. His style is definitely makes the fights very difficult for this fighter. But let's see if they are willing to fight a pressure fighter like Matias.
Ergashev has solid punches but unfortunately for him, Matias can take those punches and he has a good defense, he alluded to and blocked those hard punches while Ergashev was having a hard time with his defense, and Matias kept pressuring him, Matias proved to be a better fighter between the two this is his biggest opponent so far with a very good record and he made it so easy.
With the way he fights, he can take other popular champions in his division like Romero and Lopez, and can beat these guys.
Ergashev has a explanation though, he said that he can't move his legs in the last 2 rounds. Not sure what is that all about, it could be that he was hit by the power of Matias or we all know that leg cramps in boxing is a sign that the fighter is not rehydrate or at least someone messed it up, like a massage or something that's why he was affected by it. I remember Manny Pacquiao has the same reasons, forget about who's opponent it was, it could be in his last fight against Ugas.

Nevertheless, we can't deny Matias here, the guy has power and solid chin and now a champion that others in the 140 lbs shouldn't take lightly as he seems to be not well known amongst the latest champion that we have right now.

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November 27, 2023, 05:49:22 AM
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^^ It could be the reason that he seems to be just standing there and not moving around even if Matias hit him. Nevertheless, we could give credit to Matias here as he was also in trouble early but was able to withstand Ergashev, bounce back and then return the favor.

Yes, leg cramps is one of the most dangerous pain or episode when you are a boxing because your legs is also one of your weapons. You obviously need it to bounce back around, not saying that you should be in the bicycle, but at least a good footwork to avoid the power punches of your opponent.

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I do agree, Prograis, Romero and Lopez will be a good matchup for him. His style is definitely makes the fights very difficult for this fighter. But let's see if they are willing to fight a pressure fighter like Matias.

I admire Matias and I became an instant fan he is a pressure fighter he knows his opponent, Ergashev will move a lot because of his good lateral movements but he gambles by moving forward and preparing to get hit so he can get a hit, Ergashev may be surprised how Matias stood his best punches, between the two Ergashev is the power puncher, based on the statement of a fighter whom they both beat.
I don't think Ergashev's excuse of having a leg cramp was true, he just couldn't take Matias's punches it was very obvious in his reaction whenever he was hit by Matias's punches.
Romero and Lopez will have a hard time, fighting Matias, his style is very different and hard to deal with.

Yes, majority of us we haven't heard his name before this fight, became a instant fans because of what he had shown. He was in trouble and yet he uses it to fuel his comeback and score a knockout.

And as you have said we haven't seen that style before, everything is very technical now or you will need to have power in both hands. And now that Ryan Garcia has entered the picture of this weight class, Matias being a champion makes it more interesting on how he will go or who is gong to be his next opponent.

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Yes, majority of us we haven't heard his name before this fight, became a instant fans because of what he had shown. He was in trouble and yet he uses it to fuel his comeback and score a knockout.

And as you have said we haven't seen that style before, everything is very technical now or you will need to have power in both hands. And now that Ryan Garcia has entered the picture of this weight class, Matias being a champion makes it more interesting on how he will go or who is gong to be his next opponent.
Based on fight comparisons Subriel is the kind of fighter Ryan Garcia will avoid, he had a hard time against a pressure fighter who just moved forward and allowed themselves to get hit to give a hit, he just made a name for himself for easily beating a fighter who is considered a power puncher, he is now a threat to all the champions in his division, and if there's a tournament to unite all the belts, Subriel is the guy to beat.
Let's just wait it's only a matter of time, before these popular names, Garcia, Romero, Lopez, Subriel is likely to overshadow them in the future.

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December 06, 2023, 10:28:30 AM
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Yes, majority of us we haven't heard his name before this fight, became a instant fans because of what he had shown. He was in trouble and yet he uses it to fuel his comeback and score a knockout.

And as you have said we haven't seen that style before, everything is very technical now or you will need to have power in both hands. And now that Ryan Garcia has entered the picture of this weight class, Matias being a champion makes it more interesting on how he will go or who is gong to be his next opponent.
Based on fight comparisons Subriel is the kind of fighter Ryan Garcia will avoid, he had a hard time against a pressure fighter who just moved forward and allowed themselves to get hit to give a hit, he just made a name for himself for easily beating a fighter who is considered a power puncher, he is now a threat to all the champions in his division, and if there's a tournament to unite all the belts, Subriel is the guy to beat.

Yes, I think for now, it's a huge risk, small reward for Ryan if ever he will call Subriel Matias for his belt. For us he is not well known of a fighter. Although Ryan Garcia proved that fighting unknown that is good in paper makes him look good as well, just like in his performance against Oscar Duarte.

Let's just wait it's only a matter of time, before these popular names, Garcia, Romero, Lopez, Subriel is likely to overshadow them in the future.

Ryan said that he wants another champ in Rolly Romero, that will be good choice in my opinion and the chance of Ryan Garcia to win is higher. As compare if he will fight the power punching Matias, this is going to be dangerous for him.

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December 06, 2023, 09:24:43 PM
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And now we have the title eliminator fight for Matias IBF belt, it's between Jack Catterall vs Richardson Hitchins. We all know Catterall, he gave one hell of a fight against the former unified belt holder in Josh Taylor and there are fans who says that he won against Taylor. And then Josh never give him the chance for a rematch because he was injured and then he chooses to fight Teo Lopez wherein he lost his belt already.

And Catterall fought Jorge Linares last month or so and won that fight. Richardson Hitchins on the other hand, boast a record of 17-0 and he last defeated former champion Jose Zepeda although that is his biggest name in his resume.

So this is going to be a interesting fight for next year and winner obviously getting the scary Subriel Matias for his IBF belt.

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