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October 14, 2023, 07:19:33 AM
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Well I won't completely agree with you on this. The truth is that though hard work pays, but sometimes in life it is not all who work very hard end up becoming successful. There's always an element of luck sometimes,.you need o understand that. You could be an OG and have all the fundamental, technical analysis knowledge, and yet a newbie with little TA & FA knowledge may just be lucky to ape into a project very early and make millions that you as an OG could not even possibly thought of making.


hard work combined with bad luck is just bankruptcy, thats why I think luck have quite big role in determining someone's success, you can't be just getting the best opportunity out there without any luck.
with bad luck doesn't matter how hard you work and try, even if you put all your life into it, if you're unlucky then you're unlucky no excuses.
im always firm believer that luck does indeed bring about many people success.
its just never elaborated further because some people who have gained success too embarassed to admit it that luck definitely affect their success.
Your luck without a doubt plays a major factor, since often someone that reached a high level of success cannot really explain and teach to others how they did it, so even they do not understand how they got where they are, still one of the things with luck is that it comes and goes, so if you had a period of your life in which everything seemed to happen in the exact way to destroy your plans, you can be sure that this cannot last for long and at some moment this will stop and your hard work will eventually let you to achieve a moderate level of success.

True. Even People like Warren Buffet, Bill gates Jeff Bezos,  etc who we all know as billionaires come together and come up with a template on how to become like them, I can guarantee you that not everyone who follows that template will become successful.  There's a place for luck and taking advantage of opportunities when they come.

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October 14, 2023, 09:09:42 AM
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If you had earned money from the lottery,it’s better to start the business with the winning money.You can also start the trading which gives you good return,if you spend some time for the analysis for the trading.Some people use the offline business using their winning money from the lottery.But the important factor is they need to understand the business before starting the business.
If someone wants to start a business in the first phase, he must have a good idea about the business. When starting a business in a new phase, he may have to overcome many problems. But I believe that doing business will not be easy for everyone. Again, if you do business properly.  It will be very easy for him. To own a lot of money in a short period of time it is very important to do business as well as to have a good idea about business.
Everyone who wants to start a business has many things that they need to prepare to be able to make the business they build run well and most importantly, if the business they start runs into problems then we have to be able to solve them so that the business we build can continue to run. It is true that everyone who can run their business well certainly has many benefits from the business and of course they have gone through various processes so they can enjoy the results of their business.

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October 14, 2023, 09:36:55 AM
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You have a very good job, and you should maintain it. If you have some spare time, consider investing a bit in cryptocurrencies. Look for good projects to buy into this year, and by 2024, you'll likely have a profit.
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October 15, 2023, 08:20:01 AM
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....Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I really believe this, hard work will always pay, no matter when, no matter how long, but if we have tried hard, to the maximum, and according to the path, then believe me, we will get the results someday. Along the way, we will definitely encounter failure, disappointment, depression, and various other emotions, but as long as we don't give up and keep trying, in the sense that it is not an effort without foundation and knowledge, then we believe that one day we will be able to reap the results.

If someone says that success is luck, this may only be a small percentage compared to the hard work that has been done so far. However, only at an unexpected moment does he succeed, but in reality, it is possible that he has actually struggled a lot before. And finally he got the results at that moment. However, if we only dream about it based on luck alone, never mind, it won't work.
You are right on your assumptions, however very few people are going to have the necessary patience to keep trying to obtain the success they want when circumstances go against them, and if we add that now many people believe that success will simply come to them without working hard for it, and that simply by existing everything should be handed to them then the drive to succeed is slowly disappearing, a thing that allows us to explain why investing in meme coins is so popular while bitcoin is losing its appeal to a younger audience.
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October 15, 2023, 05:41:22 PM
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I mean when you have a good job that you love doing, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that you are going to earn a lot. Hard work happens only when you like your job, just the other night I worked until 2-3 am at least, maybe a bit more, because I was out during the day and I still didn't skip my day. Because I love my job and when you do love it like that then hard work feels easy. Think about it, assume that you are a gamer for example, you like playing games, you can play for 10 hours a day without ever getting bored, and someone pays you 1k dollars a month to do that (good money where I live) wouldn't you do that? That is just one example, people do that as a hobby, if you could make it as an income that would be lovely.

And just like OP mentions, signature campaigns and bounties do give some good return sometimes, sometimes not so much but that meant that people could make some good returns if they work hard and that is a good thing for them.

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October 16, 2023, 12:35:09 PM
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I mean when you have a good job that you love doing, then it shouldn't come as a surprise that you are going to earn a lot. Hard work happens only when you like your job, just the other night I worked until 2-3 am at least, maybe a bit more, because I was out during the day and I still didn't skip my day. Because I love my job and when you do love it like that then hard work feels easy. Think about it, assume that you are a gamer for example, you like playing games, you can play for 10 hours a day without ever getting bored, and someone pays you 1k dollars a month to do that (good money where I live) wouldn't you do that? That is just one example, people do that as a hobby, if you could make it as an income that would be lovely.

And just like OP mentions, signature campaigns and bounties do give some good return sometimes, sometimes not so much but that meant that people could make some good returns if they work hard and that is a good thing for them.
Look, loving your job is one aspect, but ensuring it brings tangible returns is a whole different ball game. Theres a certain strategy and mindset, rooted deeply in human behavior and professional investing, thats essential. Passion without financial literacy is like a car without fuel. You mention working late nights and drawing parallels with gamers. Its a great example, but what happens when the gamer faces market saturation? Or when newer, younger gamers enter the scene?

Its essential to critically evaluate where our time and effort are going. Are you just working hard or are you working smart? Are you evolving, adapting, and learning the intricacies of your profession and the industry? You talk about transforming hobbies into income, and yes, while thats the dream, one should never get so lost in passion that they forget the cutthroat nature of the professional world.

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October 16, 2023, 03:12:22 PM
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Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.
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October 16, 2023, 03:31:34 PM
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Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich.

Where did you hear this gospel from. It is totally made out of error and very misleading. I beg you not to spread this type of statement to gullible minds. There is nothing like luck in wealth creation and there is nothing like someone is destined to be rich. It is purely a fallacy that was devised to deceive people.
So, by your definition of being destined to be rich without hard work, you mean that if I am destined to be rich but I do not take up any job and I didn't acquire any skills. I remain at home from January till December, I will still be rich?

Of course this should be the mindset of some gamblers I see in the local bear pallor. The only way to be rich is to work hard and take many jobs, or investment wisely or learn more skills to earn more money.

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October 16, 2023, 04:25:45 PM
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Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

It's too naive to talk about fate. Man is the creator of his own happiness without any fate and destiny. This is usually used by various losers to justify their defeat, as if it was fated and so is fate. In fact, everything depends on the person, not on some mythical fate. You can make money in cryptocurrency with knowledge and luck, but it is very difficult to keep that money for a long time. Those who are lucky enough to earn a large sum of money once, later mismanage these assets and lose everything.

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October 16, 2023, 10:32:28 PM
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Working hard pays off, but being too confident can lead to losing money. Having a steady job is crucial for financial security. Learning from your mistakes and managing your money wisely are the keys to a better financial future.
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October 17, 2023, 02:02:22 AM
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Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
It's good that you have a main job. Hence even you lost some of what you gained before, still, you're able to overcome it since you still have other source to earn money. Anyway, regardless of what you do to earn in crypto, it's always better to use your knowledge and skills. Relying solely on luck can't bring any good fortune since you can't influence the result.

Therefore, do something to change it. If you have a goal that you want to achieve, then work on it. In addition, it's more satisfying to achieve something because of your hard work and not because you just waited for luck to hit you.

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October 17, 2023, 03:58:17 AM
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Your tale emphasizes the significance of a balanced approach to finances. Your experience as a bounty hunter and dabbling in cryptocurrency trading demonstrate that, while taking risks might result in substantial earnings, it's also critical to retain a consistent income through your tech work. Learning from past failures, particularly in risk management, is an invaluable lesson. To assure a better financial future, it is critical to work hard and commit yourself, as you indicated, but also to be judicious with your profits. The secret to success is balancing ambition with financial responsibility.
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October 17, 2023, 04:46:20 AM
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I am a person who never won any lottery but when dedicated to working on something, I get an ample amount of money. In 2018 when I started working as a Bounty hunter(as the secondary job of course), After two three years I came to know how much money I had earned which I would not have earned doing an office job for 10 years. Here the game turned. Seeing so much money in my hand, suddenly I saw everywhere when traders were earning thousands of dollars doing cryptocurrency trading. It was like the grass is always green on the other side. As mentioned earlier, due to overconfidence and not following risk management, lost some portion of the money that I earned through bounties. Now I have realized that I must work hard and that too with dedication, then only I can have a good earning status. Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
I don't know what trading means to you but even when you hold that means trading also but a Long term .
So even when you are keeping your shitcoins from bounties that is already a trade, and if you mean that you saw your earning from Bounty hunting gives you more than 10 years of office work? means have you converted them to fiat or Stable coin? or Bitcoin > because those act are already trading.
what I am saying here is that you only come to greedy attitude and lose, but that doesn't mean trading will not  bring you relief.
because one way or another? still short term trade is the most profitable .
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October 17, 2023, 06:24:16 AM
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Let me say concentration in any act of work makes the work to come out fully, because their is something I notice quite well in hard work, even their is a work you give hundred percent of your attention but the work will not be prosperous, the success of a job or work is the direction of God and even in trading you have to at least understand the rudiments and couple with luck.

I'm aware that all works needed attention for it to be successful, using trading as illustration, in trading you have to learn and devote out time to ensure that you have mastered some certain things that can cause a hindrance or obstacles in trading, before you can be able to achieve success in trading.

That is while I encourage some of us not to look at what someone has done and because of it you go directly to same thing when you have not know the foundation of such very well, their is things you should have known concerning trading and investment, you can be lucky in trading and maybe you are not lucky in investment despite your engagement.

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October 17, 2023, 03:38:25 PM
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Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich.

Where did you hear this gospel from. It is totally made out of error and very misleading. I beg you not to spread this type of statement to gullible minds. There is nothing like luck in wealth creation and there is nothing like someone is destined to be rich. It is purely a fallacy that was devised to deceive people.

Stop acting that you have not seen it in action before. What about those who hit jackpot at casinos without knowing what they spinned? What about those who bought bitcoin that year without knowing what happened or what it was? Was it all of them who bought then without knowing what bitcoin was who still have their bitcoins till date? Some of those who sold early are they rich from it today? Did they not do the same thing as those who bought then and still kept their own till today because of fate and luck?  Whatever you say or do make sure you think of that element of luck. You are not what you are today because you are more hardworking than others. You are not in the BestChange campaign today because you worked harder than others that applied then or had the best posts but you were lucky. Have you seen that luck effect now?


Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

It's too naive to talk about fate. Man is the creator of his own happiness without any fate and destiny. This is usually used by various losers to justify their defeat, as if it was fated and so is fate. In fact, everything depends on the person, not on some mythical fate. You can make money in cryptocurrency with knowledge and luck, but it is very difficult to keep that money for a long time. Those who are lucky enough to earn a large sum of money once, later mismanage these assets and lose everything.

You say it is naive to talk about fate but you agreed that luck exists. What is luck if it is not fate?
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October 17, 2023, 09:13:54 PM
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Luck is not the way to become rich or just to say, a way to improve our living but also, it needs hard work. Our lives are not gambling where we just rely on luck which means that in order to survive and be able to reach our goal, then we must consider pushing ourselves to do that.
But I see this thing that usually happens to those people who think that luck could be the answer to their dreams - that is those who keep spending a lot of money on gambling.

As I compared to businessmen, they become rich as they are working hard and spend a lot of time in their business. Because we can just sit down and become rich because we are a lucky person, that is really impossible.

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October 17, 2023, 10:25:11 PM
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Just to iterate, working as a bounty hunter or trading in cryptocurrency was never my primary source. Still, I am working in a tech company and getting monthly salaries.
Well, it's good that you don't treat bounty campaigns as your primary job because there are some here who are spending their time sharing tweets in Twitter, or in Facebook then post it here, and in the end, they will earn a few bucks. A few bucks worth of their weeks of time promoting that project. Not worth it TBH. I guess you're lucky enough at this moment to earn enough money that it surpassed your projected 10-year salary in your primary job.

You said that you need to work hard, and with dedication. For me, working hard alone is useless if you aren't smart. I know working hard is good, but working hard, and smart is better. Just imagine you working hard for 8 hours a day only to earn a minimum daily wage compare to a person who is working only a few hours a day in front of his computer, and earning way higher than the minimum daily wage. Sometimes in life, working alone isn't good enough for you to be efficient in life. Working hard "AND" smart would lead you to a successful life. LUCK?? Forget about it. Smiley


Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck.
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Hard work still pays but not every time. For example, if you have a destiny to be rich, that is luck. Without hardwork heyou will still be rich. It is this luck that alot of youths depend on now and that has made so many of them to be lazy. It has led to them wasting their lives and time in idleness instead of getting a job. At the end when this youths discover it is getting late to reposition and make something for themselves, they turn to crime because of desperation. Hardwork can not succeed without luck.

If what you mean about destined to become rich is being born from a rich parents, then ok that surely exist but eventually you will still need to work hard when your time comes to take over your parents business and wealth to at least maintain them or improve whatever wealth you have currently.
However, if what you mean is someone is destined to be rich, well, that person still needs to work hard and work smart for him meet that destiny.
Rich people are businessmen in majority, and businesses needs more effort and focus than being an employee of a company. So, that means you need to work hard. I don't quite understand what you mean about destined to become rich without any hard work. AFAIK, nobody's getting rich when you're stuck at being an employee.

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October 18, 2023, 09:40:08 AM
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Luck is not the way to become rich or just to say, a way to improve our living but also, it needs hard work. Our lives are not gambling where we just rely on luck which means that in order to survive and be able to reach our goal, then we must consider pushing ourselves to do that.
But I see this thing that usually happens to those people who think that luck could be the answer to their dreams - that is those who keep spending a lot of money on gambling.

As I compared to businessmen, they become rich as they are working hard and spend a lot of time in their business. Because we can just sit down and become rich because we are a lucky person, that is really impossible.
Many people don't realize that by working hard, and continuing to try, they can make a fortune. Some people think that no matter how hard they work, if they are unlucky, they will fail there. They don't realize that it is a process that shapes them so they are ready for success in the future. However, working hard will result in good things, no matter how many times we fail. Besides, without working hard, how could one hope for good luck.

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