Possible/Trying to Abusing - MoneyPot.com - 20k satoshi giveaway / alt account

[xLays]

Accounts involved: greekcomunity, vanesha

I've just sent the money to the accounts that are not trying to abuse the giveaway 

Since I read that post about the abusing giveaway, I immediately checked https://ninjastic.space/topic/5467856.0 and found that both Bitcointalk users used the same Moneypot username, 'vanesha.' Then, greekcomunity changed his Moneypot username to 'greekcomunity.



https://ninjastic.space/post/62918939

Account Last Active dates:
vanesha
September 29, 2023, 09:54:23 AM
greekcomunity
September 29, 2023, 10:05:15 AM

[Don Pedro Dinero]

The first evidence seems to me to be stronger than the second, because 10 minutes difference when logging out does not mean anything. A few seconds or a minute apart might but not ten minutes.

As for the first, it seems that the edit was fast. He may have simply wanted to copy the 'username' and inadvertently copied the whole thing: 'Username : vanesha', realising it immediately and editing it. Or at least he could claim that.

[Despairo]

I'm not trying to defend him/them, but greekcomunity's post next to vanesha's post, so there's a possibility he mistakenly copy pasted greekcomunity's post. Although, both of their last posts were at June, 2023. I mean, why both of them have a same mind to inactive and only post in this thread?

There are some coincidence, but as I said above they can use that's excuse.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Although, both of their last posts were at June, 2023.

But not on the same day. Vanesha wrote the previous post on 1 June 2023 while greekcomunity on 3 June 2022. The fact of the error mentioned in the OP, that they logged out within 10 minutes of each other and have had no activity on the forum since 29 September is nothing more than circumstantial evidence.

Although I am sure this will arouse the curiosity of blockchain analysis experts and perhaps more conclusive evidence will be uncovered.

[PytagoraZ]

I'm not an expert in analyzing alt accounts, I just opened the local posting history of both of them. it seemed like they were from different countries. Vanesha from Indonesia and greekcomunity from Greece. If there is no indication of buying and selling accounts then it is impossible for both of them to be alt because they have different native language speakers

[yahoo62278]

I would have probably reported it to whomever is running the giveaway and let them investigate. Without some more evidence, there really is not enough to prove they are the same account.

[FatFork]

I would have probably reported it to whomever is running the giveaway and let them investigate. Without some more evidence, there really is not enough to prove they are the same account.

I think yahoo62278 is right. It's best to report this issue to leomedina, as he appears to be the official representative of MoneyPot. They have a better chance of detecting alt accounts and abusers directly within the platform compared to what we can do on the forum. The evidence provided may not be sufficient, as it could simply be a result of a copy-paste error.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Well, i cant see how this two accounts are connected, the both evidence shared by the op is not convincing enough to believe with all doubts; that the accounts mentioned are connected, ive also taken time to search the addresses provided on both accounts, i searched both addresses on both BSCscan and the Etherscan, and cant find any link between the two accounts, all the blockchain transactions recorded on both addresses did not show any thing that should show or act as a proof that both accounts are connected.

So going by this, I personally will just disregard op's allegation, but still will have to agree to what yahoo62278 suggested, that would be the best way to really catch this user just incase, the both account actually belongs to one person.

[acroman08]

could possibly be just an honest mistake, it does happen. if you check both of the account's post histories, you'll see that one is from Indonesia and the other is from Greece, though it is possible that a person can speak both languages, so who knows. anyway, I agree with yahoo62278, it would be best to report this to the giveaway coordinator and let them do their investigation and decide what to do with it.

[logfiles]

Careful

More evidence like address sharing would make them possible alts. Maybe the owner of the moneypot promotion could help check if there is a link through IP addresses, otherwise the person behind greekcomunity seems to have mental challenges when applying for campaigns. He did a similar thing using LUCKMCFLY's details in the Bestchange signature campaign application.

That being said, there is a high chance both accounts are no longer in control by the previous owners, Posting styles, telegram handles changed drastically after some posting breaks.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Careful

More evidence like address sharing would make them possible alts. Maybe the owner of the moneypot promotion could help check if there is a link through IP addresses, otherwise the person behind greekcomunity seems to have mental challenges when applying for campaigns. He did a similar thing using LUCKMCFLY's details in the Bestchange signature campaign application.

That being said, there is a high chance both accounts are no longer in control by the previous owners, Posting styles, telegram handles changed drastically after some posting breaks.

That scared me for a moment, what I think is that this user copied and pasted my information and did not enter his real username, of course that lends itself to misunderstandings. I remember when Bestchange put up its signature campaign with the details of social networks.

[xLays]

could possibly be just an honest mistake, it does happen. if you check both of the account's post histories, you'll see that one is from Indonesia and the other is from Greece, though it is possible that a person can speak both languages, so who knows. anyway, I agree with yahoo62278, it would be best to report this to the giveaway coordinator and let them do their investigation and decide what to do with it.

If you check greekcomunity untrusted feedback someone posted:

Aegean Skipper   2018-09-24      He presents himself as Greek but obviously he isn't.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2392558

Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

[CryptSafe]

This is a case of copy paste error which he must have seen and was quick to edit it. Anybody can make such a mistake on this platform as I think that is not enough evidence to nail him. I noticed both speak different language as per their local board engagement but  that does not one is above mistake. Just as Yahoo62278 has said, that is the best resolution to this situation.

[PytagoraZ]

could possibly be just an honest mistake, it does happen. if you check both of the account's post histories, you'll see that one is from Indonesia and the other is from Greece, though it is possible that a person can speak both languages, so who knows. anyway, I agree with yahoo62278, it would be best to report this to the giveaway coordinator and let them do their investigation and decide what to do with it.

If you check greekcomunity untrusted feedback someone posted:

Aegean Skipper   2018-09-24      He presents himself as Greek but obviously he isn't.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2392558

Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

What happened:: greekcomunity who is not even Greek is receiving translation work which he completes and delivers to victims which are purely google translated. He is reserving work silently and scamming people Its self admitted even by his name and post His name is even wrong as a professional translator. His behaviour is also very spammy posting about work where its not even required

His last posts

https://i.imgur.com/2Sn8ul2.png

Multiple Proof of Scam:

All his documents translated here are done used Google Translate (A simple copy paste and delivery of the work)

This can be verified by any Greek person

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1To3YKinmTBbLMxdIR82fB2cSbQSnNFjy_0pCGG00OAU/edit?usp=drivesdk

But I saw in its history, the Greekcommunity did not make posts in other languages. Even if he used a translator, it cannot be proof that he was not from Greek. I'm also not sure if anyone has made an alt with another country because that would be very difficult

[Plaguedeath]

Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

Let's assume if he's not a Greek and he's an Indonesian, can we say your accusation are correct? not really, speak a same league isn't make you an alt from someone account. But you can use this case to paint @greekcomunity if you want.

There are few trusted Greeks in this forum, they can try to examine if @greekcomunity was done translating using his skill or google translate.

[yahoo62278]

I think DaveF is JollyGood. Could someone investigate this possibility for me?

This is how I view this case so far. You presented a question without presenting much proof. Looks like a simple copy/paste job IMO. You might be 100% right, but when you present a case of alts I think more proof needs to be presented. Also make sure the rules of the promotion, campaign, or whatever are being violated as well.

Everyone needs to try and have solid evidence before accusing IMO. An accusation can have bad repercussions on a user. Could get someone kicked out of a campaign, could get someone banned, or could get someone tagged. Be sure before you post an accusation.

[decodx]

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Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

I view it as a separate issue. Whether he's Greek or not and whether he cheated with those translations, that still doesn't make him anyone's alt account. If we are discussing a possible alt account and cheating/abuse in the giveaway, I don't think we have sufficient evidence to confirm it. It would be helpful if there were at least some other evidence linking the two, such as blockchain transactions, because, for now, this appears to be a simple copying mistake.

[PytagoraZ]

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Also someone already posted his about fake translation service here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5045868.msg46637880#msg46637880

I view it as a separate issue. Whether he's Greek or not and whether he cheated with those translations, that still doesn't make him anyone's alt account. If we are discussing a possible alt account and cheating/abuse in the giveaway, I don't think we have sufficient evidence to confirm it. It would be helpful if there were at least some other evidence linking the two, such as blockchain transactions, because, for now, this appears to be a simple copying mistake.

Yes, I think the OP is very motivated in this case even though a lot of evidence shows that they are not alt. Maybe OP shouldn't be too prejudiced. One of the members is from Indonesia, I have read a little history of his writing and yes, he is a native Indonesian speaker. If the OP is still curious, try visiting the local Greek board and asking about the greekcommunity account.

[SmartGold01]

This can actually happened to someone who is trying to copy username.. let say it has happened to me when I was trying to apply for a campaign I just copied the applying format that includes everything of the person that immediately posted but what just happened is that I wasn't that too fast to submit the application, after I preview I have to realize that the details above wasn't mine so I have to change the details of the first person who applied before me to mine.

If not I wouldn't have known how I will come to explain myself, so the thing is before anyone apply for anything they should check very well before rushing to submit whatever they feels like submitting. Not that I am taking side of this user but I just used my own scenario as a case study and it could happen to anyone here. If there were any other alternatives let say by using same address  to frequently apply for campaign or other solid evidence then we can say such person is abusing the bonuses.