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October 07, 2023, 09:56:13 AM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.

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October 07, 2023, 09:57:05 AM
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It is. A part of the fun is to win. I think that's what they mean because that's what I mean.  Wink
Will it still be fun if you are losing? Of course not, it's a frigging stressful experience and I don't want to be in that position. But, there is this perspective about winning that is fun which means you can try to win against the house. Of course is not true but some people get lucky, they can win the game and then get out.
If you do not have fun with gambling then what else will it be?
We mostly lose with casino games, that's given but we can at least try to take advantage of the fun part while trying to win the game. I think I do understand what they mean when they say "Try to have fun gambling" and that's what I said above.

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October 07, 2023, 10:08:28 AM
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If money isn't involved in gambling then it is no longer gambling but it's still fun if you enjoy those games.

While it's true that many don't seem to admit it that they're gambling for money and will just tell that they do it for fun, that doesn't matter to me as we have our own ways of making ourselves busy and doing our own stuff.

So either you gamble for fun or for money, what's the sense? We all have our own reasons in doing things and it is our money that we're spending not from anyone.

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October 07, 2023, 10:09:07 AM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.
The truth is that everyone who gambles does it with the sole aim of winning their stakes and making good profits from their winnings. Some people do gamble in other to make money from it but will still pretend to gamble just for fun and which I think doesn't make any sense despite the fact that it's their personal life.
That being said, it's not right to gamble because one want to make a living out of it because you'll surely end up as a gambling addict since you'll always channel all your resources in it in other to win.  So wether you're gambling to make money or gambling for fun, gambling responsibly is the best way to gamble.

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October 07, 2023, 10:10:36 AM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
The main reason why many people gamble is to make money no doubt about it. But we still need to emphasize that there are people that care less about their lose or win. They might be very few but they still exist. We can also grade people who gamble for benefits into several levels. One category is people who don't depend on the gains from gambling to survive or meet their basic needs. Another level is those that bet because they are catching funds and also expecting profit. This set doesn't see gambling as a reliable source of income but they are expecting to have some benefit. For me, I don't gamble because of only entertainment and I don't also see it as a source of stable income. But my wins are well celebrated and the money is used to solve a need based on the amount won.

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October 07, 2023, 11:07:23 AM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

You make a good point that money is a big reason people gamble.  But I also think a lotta folks just like playing the games cause they're exciting, not because of winning cash. The excitement of games can be fun even if you ain't betting. If casinos went to no-money games, I bet some people would still show up to play just for fun. So I'd say for some it's about money, but for others it's about enjoyment.  Casinos would still have players if they dropped cash from the mix.

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October 07, 2023, 11:20:57 AM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Always use unused money or money that is ready to be lost, maybe what is meant to have fun in gambling is like we pay for an entertainment game so when the money runs out, let's just say we pay for the entertainment we get like watching the circus for example, we are entertained but we pay to watch it, so the purpose of having fun is just to shift one's mindset so that one doesn't fall into addiction when one thinks that gambling makes a lot of money.

I think many people always think of gambling as a source of steady income or a quick way to get rich but in the end they are fooled by it and end up spending their money until they become addicted, but if the mindset is to have fun, let's just say that when we lose we spend money on something. entertainment, so it doesn't give the impression of wanting to chase defeat.

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October 07, 2023, 11:24:05 AM
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Let's not kid ourselves here – in the world of gambling, there's no such thing as a free ride. It's called gambling for a reason, because we're putting our money on the line with the hopes of scoring big, but the outcome? It's a 50/50 chance, win or lose.

Sure, there are ways to make money in the gambling scene, like hustling as an affiliate or doing some marketing for the platforms. But let's be clear, when it comes to the actual playing part, you gotta pay to play, my friend.

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October 07, 2023, 11:28:01 AM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one is arguing or denying the fact that money is not the reason but what we are saying when we say gamble for fun is to change your mindset and not seeing gambling as an avenue to make you rich or chase after your loss. We gamble to have fun and of course to make some money in the process. To some, they feel devastated when they are not winning, why? Because all their hopes rely on gambling and that's why it's advisable to play for fun and keep the money aspect behind. I understand that no one will be happy to see his or her money fleeing into tin air but again gambling is not a business where you expect return. Once you choose to play for fun, you'll be free from trauma that'll arise as a result of desperation to win to recover your money or to solve some of your problem.

If money is taken away from gambling today, I think the number of players will increase including women. The reason why some people are not into gambling is because of the money involved and once it's no more, they'll start playing it for fun. Just take a look at our mobile phone games and see the number of people playing without money being involved. Those who see gambling as a way to make money will actually feel discouraged but those who finds happiness and joy in playing will continue to play for the fun.
Gambling should be entertaining, right? Fun, excitement, and game play. When gambling becomes a surefire means to gain money, complications develop. Why? Gambling is inherently unpredictable. Investment returns aren't guaranteed. Not a business. Chance game

Consider this: What if we all gambled like phone games? No expectations, just fun. Would that alter our experience? I think so. Fun can be overlooked when money is the priority. After the fun, worry and desperation set in

Your comment about mobile phone gaming is good. Players play for hours without expecting payment. Why? Playing for fun. Wouldn't that approach change gambling? It's worth considering

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October 07, 2023, 11:37:52 AM
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That's a good question op's asking. I consider gambling a form of entertainment, but it's a fair point that it's different from other forms of entertainment because I'd definitely do those for free, whereas the financial part is important for gambling. I mean, not for everything, of course. I've played poker with friends with no financial stakes involved and still enjoyed it, and I've done the same with a home-version of roulette.
But something like betting makes more sense when there's a chance of winning money for it. Then again, some people believe that betting and gambling are two different things, so in that case, it doesn't count as a counterpoint.

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I want to ask those who say that they play for fun to try to give some amount that they are ready to lose to hungry children and old people. Anyone who doesn’t know what it is to get pleasure from helping others should try it. You can understand that the money you give to a rich casino may make a child happier by buying him a toy or medicine. But unfortunately, gambling is a vice, and vicious people need to help themselves. Eternally hunting for money without getting anything useful from it makes your life very empty and useless.

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October 07, 2023, 12:19:37 PM
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Getting a win from gambling is a bonus for gamblers. But unfortunately, many gamblers are chasing wins so they use more money to gamble. And it is true that people want to make money from gambling but it is not easy to get.

But we should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and not use it to make money. And if we manage to win and get money, that is a bonus for us because luck comes to help us win. Don't expect to get much money from gambling, especially if you have lost several times. It's better for you to just stop gambling because it can cause you to experience more losses.

And if there were no money, not many people would play because many people's goal is money. People are willing to use their money to gamble so they also know the risks of gambling. Only people unprepared for the results will feel frustrated and continue trying to chase the win.

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October 07, 2023, 01:12:23 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


You can only really say you're gambling if you have "skin in the game" aka you are risking something real. That's why you'll never get the same responses from players on free gaming apps, if you compared a free poker chip and a paid poker chip game for example. The aggression of the players and the unpredictability changes wildly between the two. That being said, if people work hard and want to spend small amounts of their income on these games because they find it entertaining - leave them to it, as it poses no real harm.

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October 07, 2023, 01:18:45 PM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No doubt,  money is the reason why people play gamble and money is the main reason why people become addicted, people don't become addicted because of the game itself but because of the money that is involved.

  If their is no money in gambling people won't get addicted in it. If money is not involve in gambling people will still play gamble just like the regular games people play. But the absence of money will reduce the rate at which people are into it.

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October 07, 2023, 01:46:26 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Have you ever seen your friends or other people who gamble, they use disposable money and continue to gamble with that money, sounds strange but it's the truth, they come to gambling as they please and I see them betting for their pleasure and I see them gambling like a joke, I found them in the real world and this behavior was transmitted to me personally, that is the meaning of the meaning of gambling only for fun and as entertainment for them. no matter the game they win or lose.

Many of my friends are involved in gambling using money given by other people, once they make a deposit they turn the money around until it becomes a reality.
Example:
Someone gets money from other people amounting to $300 they make a deposit and play on three online gambling sites, each deposit is $100 with that money they bet at one of the online casinos with capital of $100 can make $1000 after winning they withdraw the money $700 and $200 is saved in their gambling account, they come and bet again with the money in the account as they please, come and go, if the game looks interesting and entertaining for them to bet on and if it is not fun they don't bet, for me that is what is called a gambler just for fun.

As far as I know, everyone gambles in various styles, some are looking for a living/necessity, fun, crazy, sane and so on, if you see them gambling in real or online you will find various things.

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October 07, 2023, 01:57:58 PM
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The games will become boring to play since there's nothing to achieve when you win, money is add an another taste to make the gambler want to play. It's like eating a pasta without the sauce, can you eat it? yes, but there's no flavor and you will feel full quicker before you eat it all.

Gambling is always need money and it depends on each person choice whether they want to gamble or not.

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October 07, 2023, 02:09:51 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
No one is hiding it. Some people might say those words just to make them feel better from losing money in gambling. We all know that the very reason why we gamble is to make money. It's just that, it is really hard to win against the gambling house.

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Yes, maybe. Gambling without money involved is like a demo play, it's kinda boring though.
And yes, money will always be the reason why we gamble. We risk the money to earn money. There's fun there but it's all about making money.



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October 07, 2023, 02:11:14 PM
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~ Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it? ~

The point of gambling is that you risk your money trying to increase it. Naturally, the gambling provider gets his margin, so the probability of winning is slightly lower than the probability of losing. If you remove from gambling such a component as money, it loses meaning not only for the gambler, but also the gambling provider.

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October 07, 2023, 02:28:23 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
People intentionally give money away for fun activities, it is a regular thing to see. People spend money on alcohol to have a good time, people spend and lavish money on drugs, Some men lavish money on women for fun, so people can intentionally lavish money on gambling for strictly fun. If you feel that you cannot do that, and that every time you play you have the intention to make money from it, everybody is not like you. There are many gamblers who are doing okay financially already, they play gambling for fun.

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When people pay to go to a water park or cinema or beach or bar or pay to go watch car races or horse races, are these people making a profit? Are these people making money when they pay to watch a football, basketball or tennis game? The answer is simple: these people are not making money when they buy tickets to watch tennis matches, football matches or basketball matches. So what exactly are these people getting when they buy tickets to watch football games? answer: they are having fun.

think of it this way; There are 24 hours in a day, you go to work at 8am and leave work at 5pm from Monday to Friday, when the weekend arrives (Saturday and Sunday) you stay at home all day and choose to do something something to have fun with and allow time to pass without you getting stressed. with that you take 50$ and go to a bar to have fun, or take 50$ and go to a premier league game to have fun, you are not going to these places to make some financial profit, you are going to have fun.

The same thing happens with casinos, instead of putting in 50$ to go watch a premier league game, you can take 50$ and go play in a physical casino or online casino and there you will have fun playing, just like when you pay for go bowling. The difference between paying $50 to go bowling or going to watch an NBA game versus gambling is that while you are playing gambling you may be lucky enough to win and have some or a lot of money. But, that doesn't mean you're playing to make a profit. I hope I fixed this mistake in your thread

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