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October 07, 2023, 03:01:31 PM
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Who can guess with an accuracy rate of up to 80% the purpose of someone's gambling, as long as there is no honesty test tool, you can only assume without knowing someone's intention to gamble. Generally, it is often found that someone's goal of gambling is to make free and easy money, you cannot exclude other people's goal of gambling just to have fun.

Losing and winning become secondary, they gamble just to relieve fatigue after a day of activities and there are also those who want to get rid of boredom. Money in gambling is like salt in food, without salt cooking will taste bad, and so does money in gambling.

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October 07, 2023, 03:01:46 PM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Most of the time yes, but it will always depend on the situation.
If you're already retired and have a lot of money but still gamble, do you think they still gamble for Money?
Well, for me they gamble to have fun and you can see most of this scenario on the casinos where the senior are still playing and still smiling in the front of the slot machine.
Though you have your point here but let's not generalize this and let's not invalidate those gambler who are into having fun than to make money, they know their real purpose.
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October 07, 2023, 03:03:47 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Well, there was been games which much of their mechanics have much to do with randomness and chance, no money involved , and still can be quite fun. I used to spend quite while playing those when I was younger.

Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.


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October 07, 2023, 03:23:48 PM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
No matter what we say no one will be encouraged to gamble without money. But to answer your question I will say that many people know that there is no chance of guaranteed win in gambling but there is a chance of losing but still they keep their money if they win then they get money otherwise if they lose they have no problem they will take it easily. An attempt has been made to explain such an attitude. But if we only say that if gambling does not pay, will you gamble? The answer is “No”. No one will express interest in gambling unless paid. Money acts as an incentive to gamble.

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October 07, 2023, 03:23:57 PM
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take free money from gambling, what if it gets pushed? I think if we gamble and make it an addictive habit or commit crimes for gambling it is indeed wrong, but some make good use of this, it's better than stealing isn't it. let's play with reasonable limits.

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October 07, 2023, 03:24:58 PM
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Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.


I agree with it if money will fuel your thrill to have fun in gambling then it is good for you but you should limit using money, because if you need a lot of money to reach the desired thrill then it's dangerous to your mental health and pocket.
You need to have control and be responsible for how you gamble with your money, allocation is the key if you're playing for fun don't pour everything be content with the money that you have, and stop when you need to stop.
Gambling is fun when you know your limitations, failure to do this and you will encounter a lot of problems after your gambling session.

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October 07, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
I agree money is the main reason for most gamblers, but some fail to realize that people can have fun with gambling, similar to how you'll spend money for an event. It's not always about winning but finding enjoyment within the activity. I would still play their games even if there's no money involved, but that's not possible because casinos require money or profits to flow in to maintain their business. Let's not forget sports betting is here too, and it's why some gamblers would switch to different types of gambling.

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October 07, 2023, 04:04:46 PM
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well that is how gambling is much more interesting. if we play a game if the prize is something that is only exchanged in the game I'm sure it's less interesting. what if it could be exchanged for real money. this is very challenging. but as long as we are not addicted, it is of course something we can consider doing. So far, addiction to gambling is dangerous not when people can control it.
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October 07, 2023, 04:16:04 PM
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No single person is gambling just for the fun, it is always for the money. Those who have this view are just trying to generate some good feelings that will water down the pain of losing. It is a psychological thing and I understand them perfectly well. Those who want to catch fun play computer games and not gamble.

The real fun of gamble comes from winning good amount of money and nothing else. Like you said before, there is no fun in giving your money away.
You hit the nail on the head. Remove the money and you will find gambling to be boring, the money has always been the attracting force. There are hundreds of things I could do with my time if I want to catch fun like playing video games, hanging out with friends at the beach, picnic, clubbing etc. Sadly, we hide under the illusion that 'gambling is fun' but that's not true. Gambling is not a recreational activity, gambling is you hustling to see if you can add some money in your pocket. A gambler that's on a continuous losing streak or the one that it has wrecked his life, will he still call gambling fun? What's so fun about loses?

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October 07, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
I don't think that's the case but for me the chance to get a money win is great but you still want to have fun. More like a 55-45 scenario.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
I don't think we can call it gambling if money is not involved but for the sake of having fun I guess you'll do it anyways.

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Correct, but you can't take that "seeking for fun" thing especially if you just want to pass the time.
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October 07, 2023, 04:28:38 PM
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Though, even if someone states they are not playing because of the money. There is no doubt the money is a factor which helps much to feed the thrill and the adrenaline rush while playing crash or plinko.


I agree with it if money will fuel your thrill to have fun in gambling then it is good for you but you should limit using money, because if you need a lot of money to reach the desired thrill then it's dangerous to your mental health and pocket.
You need to have control and be responsible for how you gamble with your money, allocation is the key if you're playing for fun don't pour everything be content with the money that you have, and stop when you need to stop.
Gambling is fun when you know your limitations, failure to do this and you will encounter a lot of problems after your gambling session.


It would be also productive to try to find other sources or thrill which do not involve to wager important amounts of money. By nature, Human beings get thrill out the feeling of uncertainty and risk, so it would be worth it to try to seek thrill by going to those crazy mechanical attractions.

Or perhaps try to play games like truth or dare with people one can trust, etc. Those are social activities which won't be translated into copious losses and in the worst case scenario one will just end up doing something embarrassing.   Tongue

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October 07, 2023, 04:28:55 PM
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Money is still the real reason why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Yes of course and we should not deceive ourselves that it's not, but the thing is we should not gamble with money that we are not comfortable losing, there is no excitement if there's no money involved but the money that is involved should be excess money and we do not have a high expectation that it will make a profit, planning to make money on gambling will surely backfire.

It's important that we know how to moderate our greed, having high expectations in gambling is the cause of a lot of worry and financial problems we need to control our greed or the greed will control us and when greed controls us there is no limit on our expenses in gambling.


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October 07, 2023, 04:30:44 PM
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Making extra cash is not a bad idea at all, and gambling has been some people's means of getting something to add to their earnings. It might sound unwise, but that's the truth. If you see an opportunity to make another money aside from your income, why not grab it? This is what gamblers do.
 
I have said it before: if it's for the fun alone, we will not have as many casinos as we have right now, and we will not also have as many gambling addicts as we have currently in society.

Most people are inspired by others winning stories; some others are also inspired by what they believe they can do. You might like playing some games online for fun, but if it's not for the money, I believe you will use other means of playing games that will not require you to wager any amount and expect to win something in return.

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I play for fun and I play to win but I keep in mind that I may lose money which is also totally fine with me. No one is being a hypocrite contrary to what you think. Money and the ideal of winning it is the motivation for us to play in casino. Now that we can cash out in Bitcoin, it is even a bigger motivation. We only stress the fun and entertainment part because we know how people get easily carried away and act all angry when they are on a losing streak. They get all angry and all those behaviors that shouldn't be showcased in the public space.

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No single person is gambling just for the fun, it is always for the money. Those who have this view are just trying to generate some good feelings that will water down the pain of losing. It is a psychological thing and I understand them perfectly well. Those who want to catch fun play computer games and not gamble.

The real fun of gamble comes from winning good amount of money and nothing else. Like you said before, there is no fun in giving your money away.
You hit the nail on the head. Remove the money and you will find gambling to be boring, the money has always been the attracting force. There are hundreds of things I could do with my time if I want to catch fun like playing video games, hanging out with friends at the beach, picnic, clubbing etc. Sadly, we hide under the illusion that 'gambling is fun' but that's not true. Gambling is not a recreational activity, gambling is you hustling to see if you can add some money in your pocket. A gambler that's on a continuous losing streak or the one that it has wrecked his life, will he still call gambling fun? What's so fun about loses?

Definitely. I'm into sports and though I enjoy watching games, I still think of making money out of my prediction. Regardless of which team I put my money on, I aim to win and that is what is the essence of betting, its winning. Not to be entertained by losing.

But then making people believe they wanna be entertained through casino are for the audiences that hasn't yet got into gambling. Regular people hearing this may just be convinced that this entertainment could be fun because TV is just too cheap for entertainment.


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Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of goodwill when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
You don't do that there's no challenge just giving away your money you still hope that you'll win and if not you accept your losses and move on that's how gambling should be treated.


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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


We are hoping to make money of course but we are not going to chase money that we've lost because we expect to win, the key here is acceptance if you can not accept the results then you have a problem, play for fun and hope to make money not play to make money and hope to have fun its two different things.

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October 07, 2023, 04:52:03 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.
Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.
Yes we cannot erase that fact because there are still other people who made money with gambling. It is a fact but it is not available to everyone I mean not all people can get what other people are doing. If they are winning in a row and earning so much in gambling we can't compare ourselves nor gamble as much as they did because what is happening to them does not guaranteed that will happen to us.

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If so, then what is the difference between gambling and other offline games? Having no money at stake in gambling will only reduce the essence of gambling. And if gambling were like that, there would never be anyone who would spend time analyzing or thinking hard to create a trick for playing and there would never be anyone who would spend their money trying their luck. In essence, this gambling would be empty if there were no stakes in it. Like you are drinking syrup but not with the sweetness which makes it taste bland.

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October 07, 2023, 05:31:36 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

I don't agree. We never intentionally give our money away. There's always a probability of winning and it often is at 50% so after playing 10 rounds of whatever, blackjack for example, you can be sure some of these rounds will be won, but you don't know which ones, so you bet the same money every time. If you knew which round will end up with you getting 21, you'd go all in at that specific round.
When you go somewhere where you have to pay for entry, like the cinema, do you consider it lost money? I'd say you buy fun, right? If there's a bungee jump at an amusement park that you have to pay for, do you lose money, or do you pay for entertainment. At the casino there's no entry fee, but to play you have to bet, so you also pay for entertainment.

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October 07, 2023, 05:41:17 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


I would like to express my opinion as someone who is not addicted to gambling and gambles for fun. Yes, as I mentioned I gamble for fun but this doesn't mean that I don't expect to win. So, even though I'm someone who gambles to have a good and funny time there is always the thought of "what if I can make high profits?" in the back of my mind. To continue my interpretation here I can say that, for me gambling for fun is like this;

Gambling is an expensive but exciting entertainment activity for me. Although I call this as a fun of course I also know that I can potentially make a profit every time and I gamble in line with this expectation. However, if I set my budget at 100 units before gambling it doesn't exceed this limit and I don't add anything extra in case I consume my budget quickly. In other words, just to spend 100 units like an individual addicted to gambling I don't end up spending 300 units after I start gambling. For this reason, I state that I gamble for fun because I can control myself in this way.

Although gambling is a method of fun for me under the conditions I have stated, it wouldn't be something I would choose if it was played for free and didn't make any profit. The reason for this is that although I play for fun as I mentioned, there is also the possibility of making money right away.
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