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October 07, 2023, 09:36:36 PM
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I don't think there needs to be good intentions to have fun by gambling. We gamble, and yes we gamble and don't need to think about many things. And if we want to have fun by gambling, that's what we do using the money we can afford. And I don't need a reason to gamble because I gamble when I want to gamble. And when I don't want to gamble, I don't gamble. It's that easy. There is no need to think too complicatedly when you want to gamble because it will confuse you about what you want to get from gambling.

I remember there was a thread where there was a game playing site that didn't use money but they could get money if they managed to win. So it's good for you to try it. Here is the thread: Socialtournaments-A way to stop gambling addiction
Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.

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October 07, 2023, 09:53:33 PM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No matter how gambler want to phrase the statement, the truth is bitter they are all in there for the financial benefit, we know that their are rich people which we have in the industry who are consider VVIP on which ever gambling platform that they fine their self, those people appears to have made it in life already either through other means for earning and some still through gambling, for those who already have enough money which their is no amount of money that one can still consider as enough, this people just want to gamble for fun they play with money if they win it’s their luck and they consider the winning as another money for next day gambling.

But for people like you and eye, who want to use any small opportunity to increase our earnings, the truth might appears bitter, still it’s entirely for the money, if they happen to remove winning and betting this to get that from gambling we will see that most casinos will short down, this is not because their is no one to play on their casino but this is because their is nothing their any more to attract new people to their.

Let’s take some casino which have already been declared as one without a transparent system and their winning chances is not fair to players, if any casino have been declared as a cheat why do you think most people avoid going their to play, that’s because they know they don’t have a higher change of winning their which is something they won’t like waste their time and money in place like that.

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October 07, 2023, 10:29:17 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Yes, I also have the same assumption as you. I'm sure there are gambling addicts here but they give advice not to become a gambling addict, maybe he is hiding it or maybe he is not aware that he has become a gambling addict.

I really believe that gamblers will leave the game if gambling sites no longer use money, they will not play just for fun. I see lots of free gambling games on Playstore but there are few users

However, the essence of gambling is money and the hope of getting a big win or even a maxwin. Everyone needs hope, and casinos provide that hope even if that hope is false

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October 07, 2023, 10:43:12 PM
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Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Of course, it is. That's why it's called "gambling" right? You are gambling and risking your own hoping for the best exchange in return.

If you saw someone saying gambling is for fun, then maybe that's the form of their fun, risking money even if they are losing.

Just mind our own business indeed. Whatever the approach of others on gambling, just let them do what they want.
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October 08, 2023, 06:29:48 AM
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Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.
That is why before we decide to gamble regularly, we must first understand the risks of gambling so that we will not make the wrong choice. But we have to make sure that we gamble not to chase wins but to have fun and if we can win, that means we are lucky. But we can't expect to always get lucky because it will only happen sometimes for most people. And it is true that gambling is a choice made by people and we also have the choice not to gamble too often so that we do not experience more losses. We can gamble but have good self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop gambling whenever we want. And if we already have it, we really have to take good care of ourselves so that we are not tempted by the offers or promotions offered by the casino.

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October 08, 2023, 06:48:23 AM
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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.

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October 08, 2023, 06:50:55 AM
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Fun is also a part why we gamble, those who loves betting on sports games knows what I am talking about, it becomes more thrilling when you believe that your supported football club will beat your friend's, and you decide to bet some money on it, you can also watch the match together and that's where the fun begins, I believe games like this will lack the fun once you place a high amount of money, that is what will ruin the fun.

It can only be fun when your friend win your money is the money you use to place bet is very small, you will easily over look it and think more about the fun that comes from the thrilling match, so yes fun are present in gambles only when you placed bet with small amount of money that you can easily forget once it's gone.

Gambling is not that bad, people's greed is what makes gambling a bad thing in the face of many people, I believe it's still possible to get fun out of gambling if you are a responsible gambler, but oh yes people want to get rich off everything that's why they venture into gambling full time, I am not saying money isn't why are all gamble but less money on gamble makes it enjoyable.

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October 08, 2023, 07:10:58 AM
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Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.
I have also seen couple of people say here that they gamble for the fun of it and they are not into it because of the money and I doubted them and i also think they are just trying to pretend, it is possible that some people are playing it for fun and for the love of the game and are mot too much concerned about their winnings or losses but the percentage of these kind of people are very low compared to those who gamble for the money they can earn.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Of course not, no one wants to lose money even the richest people are working hard to keep making more money so why would a nobody like me want to gamble for free? Gambling is quite boring when no money is involved, it won’t be worth playing because there would be nothing motivating you to gamble and how do we expect casinos to make money from. Gambling’s definition involves staking money and who ever loses would pay the other party, that’s the fun of it.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

No one will get addicted if money is not involved because it would not be worth playing. I would not have had any interest in it if money was not involved,  i may still participate but not as much as i do now.

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October 08, 2023, 07:14:16 AM
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... stating that they are gambling for the fun of it...
Yes! That's me Grin

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Absolutely yes. This is my "second" betting rule! And I have posted this... 8 years ago Roll Eyes
... Play only an amount of money that you are ready to trash in the rubbish....

Will you still participate if money is not involved?
Yes but it should be fun! Unless I will not spend my time.

Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
the phenomenon would certainly be reduced. It's a bit like drinking wine but without the alcohol.
Yes, the taste, the color, everything we want, but remove the alcohol and you have removed the "magic" Sad

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

you can fool yourself into thinking you're playing with the hope of "making money". but in reality you will only lose money,trying to catch this illusion.

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October 08, 2023, 10:02:46 AM
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Gambling is not complicated actually, only people do complicate it. But I believe it’s the reality nowadays that they only gamble for money, fun is just the second option. But whether you gamble for fun or for money, I think that won’t matter at all. As long as you can afford to gamble and you know how risky it would be to gamble without being aware how to deal with those risks, then that’s fine. After all, gambling is not by chance, but it’s definitely a choice made by people who have passion to do it.
That is why before we decide to gamble regularly, we must first understand the risks of gambling so that we will not make the wrong choice. But we have to make sure that we gamble not to chase wins but to have fun and if we can win, that means we are lucky. But we can't expect to always get lucky because it will only happen sometimes for most people. And it is true that gambling is a choice made by people and we also have the choice not to gamble too often so that we do not experience more losses. We can gamble but have good self-control so that we don't get too deep into gambling and can stop gambling whenever we want. And if we already have it, we really have to take good care of ourselves so that we are not tempted by the offers or promotions offered by the casino.

That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.

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October 08, 2023, 10:15:44 AM
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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.

That's it. If money wasn't involved, the dopamine and other neurotransmitter peaks wouldn't be the same, and it would be the same either for all these emotions they produce (fun, if you want to focus on it). So, when players say that they gamble for fun, I think that what they mean is that they know well the mechanisms of gambling and are not expecting that it will be profitable / a source of income.

When you go to a tavern you know that you will get fun, at a cost. To me, gambling is quite similar, and it is not the same to gamble in a logical way than the delusion of believing that it will improve your life in the long term.

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October 09, 2023, 03:27:35 AM
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That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.
Rarely are gamblers willing to think about the risks that might arise when they are gambling. Instead, they will continue gambling and hope to win some money from playing several rounds of gambling. But they know they will face a risk of loss, and some of them are ready for that defeat and will not try to recover their losses. But others will try to recover their losses because they think they can. And yes, that's why they must change their mindset, especially if they have experienced loss. They don't need to continue gambling and try to recover their losses because that means they can experience even more losses.

If we could think about the luck that might not come to us, we might try to prevent many losses. We don't want to lose more money because it's not worth it if we win, especially if we've already lost a lot of money. But if they can accept their defeat, they can continue gambling and will not regret it if they have lost a lot of money.

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October 09, 2023, 03:46:48 AM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Well, if you decided to play despite knowing you can lose your money in snap then yes because it's part of it. Thus if you can't stand this fact, you are not someone playing to entertain yourself. Instead, there's a purpose why you're willing to risk your money, and that is to gain something.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.

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Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Some gambling games are fun even without money. I still play poker without actual money bets. Other gambling games are boring with or without money(dice, crash, slots, roulette). Removing monetary bets would make them unbearable.
You are right. 99% of the gamblers keep gambling because of the faith in their luck and the dream of making the big hit. Most gambling games aren't the same without money. I just don't have any delusions about "making the bit hit" and becoming very rich out of gambling. That's why I say(and write) that I gamble for fun.

That's it. If money wasn't involved, the dopamine and other neurotransmitter peaks wouldn't be the same, and it would be the same either for all these emotions they produce (fun, if you want to focus on it). So, when players say that they gamble for fun, I think that what they mean is that they know well the mechanisms of gambling and are not expecting that it will be profitable / a source of income.

When you go to a tavern you know that you will get fun, at a cost. To me, gambling is quite similar, and it is not the same to gamble in a logical way than the delusion of believing that it will improve your life in the long term.

People usually pay to get themselves entertained today. A great example is a lot of people are watching streamers do their content online and are sending tips, or are gifting subs in order to keep the 'fun' going. I personally don't see any fun in that, but it's understandable given that we aren't the same when it comes to the basis of getting entertained. Same with people who are risking their money gambling and are having fun doing so. We wouldn't know for sure what their motives are, but so long as they're not problematic gamblers, I guess we can leave them to their own devices and let them 'enjoy' losing money to the gambling platform.

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I think even if money is taken away I would be still having fun gambling. I think this is completely up to people. Especially gamers are playing against ai most of the time without having money involved. And it's one of the greatest fans for them. I think if you are sort of above average wealthy person with many  free time gambling is another great option. People who consider gambling as a way of money making are more common to observe tho. I agree with that.
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October 09, 2023, 06:21:53 AM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.
Yes, sometimes just looking for fun and getting entertainment doesn't have to involve money to play at the casino, that won't be a problem because everyone can enjoy playing there without having to use money, for example using demo money, but most gamblers who look for money at the casino won't be enthusiastic. with that because they will not get happiness if they gamble without involving money.

Gamblers who just want to make money at the casino will usually never feel at ease with that, it all depends on their own life choices and every gambler has their own views, so it's okay for me personally without involving casino money, the casino will still be a place of entertainment for me in my free time, specifically on weekends.

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October 09, 2023, 06:27:31 AM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Well, if you decided to play despite knowing you can lose your money in snap then yes because it's part of it. Thus if you can't stand this fact, you are not someone playing to entertain yourself. Instead, there's a purpose why you're willing to risk your money, and that is to gain something.
Benefit? It doesn't seem like it because if we expect profits we will probably experience disappointment when we lose and really regret it if we lose large amount of money.
The most appropriate answer is to have fun because the definition of having fun or entertainment is very expensive and even fun will never be worth the amount of money we spend to get it.
Moreover not in all activities we can get very satisfying pleasure.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?
As long as I get the satisfaction that i'm looking for, regardless of if there's a money involve or not, I will continue to play. On the other side, there are gamblers who are playing because of money and we can't deny that. Therefore if there's no money, obviously they won't continue playing since there's no excitement anymore.
This is good choice or approach because that way you will never have problems when you have to spend money to get satisfaction that may be difficult to get elsewhere.
Of course in gambling there will always be wrong approaches such as making money by risking what they have but this will actually only have very bad impact on gambler in the long run.
Some people think about getting rich from gambling but they never think about the risks that might not make them rich but only leave them with misery or bankruptcy.

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October 09, 2023, 06:29:15 AM
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You gamble for fun, right? And let's be honest, there's no real fun in gambling without using real money, so it's not exactly "free." Now, people might say they gamble for fun, but the reality is that they might stop having fun when they start losing money. That's their issue to deal with, though; every gambler comes with their own experiences and baggage, and it's ultimately up to the individual to figure out how to handle it.

The most crucial thing is to ensure that gambling doesn't lead to addiction. And if it does head in that direction, let's hope the gambler can find a way to avoid it spiraling into a life-destroying situation. I want to emphasize that it's not fair to solely blame gambling for destroying a gambler's life, as there are often multiple factors at play.

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October 09, 2023, 06:32:12 AM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Lol, you are not the only one mate, sometimes many users just tend to be replying or comments about their gambling intentions in a nice and responsible view because if the community standard, but I know for sure that a handful of members here actually gamble with the first intention of making money as no one will ever gamble just to satisfy his habit with losing.

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October 09, 2023, 07:10:48 AM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


That's an interesting, I think that a majority of gamblers like the aspect that real money is involved and that they have the chance to make a big profit from it. In case the casinos would offer only games with paymoney I think the play numbers would drop quickly. For me personally it wouldn't be such a big change, because I like to play all kinds of games for many years. Shooters and strategy games I have been playing for 15 years and gambling is part of those games to. Opening loot boxes and taking part in skin raffles is another form of gambling I enjoy, same goes for playing poker or black jack. If both those games would only be playable without real money I would still keep playing them. The games are fun and money is only part of the excitement, not the main focus. Gambling with the sole purpose of making money doesn't work out in the long run, it's better to have different motivations behind our hobbies.
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