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October 09, 2023, 07:32:09 AM
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There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  Cheesy

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October 09, 2023, 09:20:55 AM
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That's right and I think it should be like that, before they decide to gamble they must first know what risks are there. But what usually happens is that they come only focused on winning, they know there is a risk of losing but they think it's like a small part that doesn't matter too much, even though on the other hand if they know the real facts the house has arranged everything and the percentage of winning is much lower than losing, so with that alone I think it can be used as a strong reason why now a lot of gamblers are finally down because of the wrong mindset. True, they must really be able to change their wrong mindset before something unexpected happens to them, because it is clear as you say this is only a place to find entertainment, but well for those who have already entered such a cycle it may be too late, but I think there is no harm in trying to change slowly.

Basically gambling is just about luck, that means even though you have tried dozens of times if you are unlucky then you will continue to lose, I think you should use your logic a little to think about this, instead of continuing to gamble because of the defeat that has upset you. It's a choice and you should consider it.
Rarely are gamblers willing to think about the risks that might arise when they are gambling. Instead, they will continue gambling and hope to win some money from playing several rounds of gambling. But they know they will face a risk of loss, and some of them are ready for that defeat and will not try to recover their losses. But others will try to recover their losses because they think they can. And yes, that's why they must change their mindset, especially if they have experienced loss. They don't need to continue gambling and try to recover their losses because that means they can experience even more losses.

If we could think about the luck that might not come to us, we might try to prevent many losses. We don't want to lose more money because it's not worth it if we win, especially if we've already lost a lot of money. But if they can accept their defeat, they can continue gambling and will not regret it if they have lost a lot of money.

Now in my opinion, from this alone, it is already known what exactly their intention is to come so that they get such a downturn, I think why they only consider the risk there as a small part that doesn't really matter is because they come with the wrong intention and mindset which is only focused on winning or to make money, not at all to find entertainment, I think this makes sense for them. Whereas on the other hand it is clear as we know and what I have mentioned above the casino has arranged everything, the percentage of wins is much lower than the loss that means the loss will continue to dominate, whatever method they use and they believe it will not fully affect. Usually people who come with this intention will definitely when they lose they will continue to play to catch up with the victory and to make up for the loss in the previous time, that's for sure.

Well the point is if our mindset is right and knows that the name of luck will not always come especially consistently then surely we will always think about how to reduce losses or prevent them in any way we can, and if you really want to continue gambling then you must really be able to be a gambler who is responsible for whatever happens, so that there are no regrets whatsoever.

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October 09, 2023, 09:38:42 AM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

We have different individuals, some individuals when they gamble, they're doing that because they want to get some entertainment and others are doing it because they're looking for income. Those who gamble mainly because they want to get income don't always succeed as they'll be losing but those doing it without having the main focus of income, gets profits. When all that's in your mind is making money, you'll be gambling wrongly and addiction will become a problem.

I think everyone knows why he's gambling, while I'm gambling mostly for fun but when I make profits it makes me happy that I want to change my reason for gambling from entertainment to gambling for money but I know if I do that, I'll be putting more pressure on myself to make money and I might lose myself doing that.

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October 09, 2023, 09:44:25 AM
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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


That's an interesting, I think that a majority of gamblers like the aspect that real money is involved and that they have the chance to make a big profit from it. In case the casinos would offer only games with paymoney I think the play numbers would drop quickly. For me personally it wouldn't be such a big change, because I like to play all kinds of games for many years. Shooters and strategy games I have been playing for 15 years and gambling is part of those games to. Opening loot boxes and taking part in skin raffles is another form of gambling I enjoy, same goes for playing poker or black jack. If both those games would only be playable without real money I would still keep playing them. The games are fun and money is only part of the excitement, not the main focus. Gambling with the sole purpose of making money doesn't work out in the long run, it's better to have different motivations behind our hobbies.
You make a really good point there! You're arguing that playing with real money gives the game an extra zing, then? Who doesnt enjoy the excitement of maybe winning the lottery, after all? But, but, but... would the appeal disappear if casinos started accepting play money? Hmm... I think you might be onto something.

Now, you've been playing games for years, shooters, strategy games, and all that jazz. Additionally, gambling components like skin raffles and prize boxes are the icing on the cake for you. But consider this: isnt it ironic that these games have so much of the essence of gambling in them? You're absolutely correct! Money isnt usually the main factor. Occasionally, its just the excitement of the match. The unpredictable nature, the strategy, and the excitement! Furthermore, isnt it a surefire way to lose money to gamble for financial gain? Isnt it true, after all, that the house always wins? So why not just take pleasure in the game itself? The goal of the game ought to be to have fun, right?

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October 10, 2023, 03:30:57 AM
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Now in my opinion, from this alone, it is already known what exactly their intention is to come so that they get such a downturn, I think why they only consider the risk there as a small part that doesn't really matter is because they come with the wrong intention and mindset which is only focused on winning or to make money, not at all to find entertainment, I think this makes sense for them. Whereas on the other hand it is clear as we know and what I have mentioned above the casino has arranged everything, the percentage of wins is much lower than the loss that means the loss will continue to dominate, whatever method they use and they believe it will not fully affect. Usually people who come with this intention will definitely when they lose they will continue to play to catch up with the victory and to make up for the loss in the previous time, that's for sure.

Well the point is if our mindset is right and knows that the name of luck will not always come especially consistently then surely we will always think about how to reduce losses or prevent them in any way we can, and if you really want to continue gambling then you must really be able to be a gambler who is responsible for whatever happens, so that there are no regrets whatsoever.
That makes sense for them because they want to make money from their winnings. Even though they also know that gambling is for entertainment, they don't need to try hard just to gamble. And they also already know that the winning percentage is much lower than the losing percentage but they don't care because they think later they can win big. So they can recover their previous losses so that is what causes them to keep gambling. If they could realize this, they would not try so hard but just use gambling as a place to get entertainment.

This mindset must be changed because if our mindset is still like that, we will just go back to gambling with the same goals and nothing will change. We may lose more and not be responsible gamblers because we could spend more money just chasing those wins.

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October 10, 2023, 04:00:04 AM
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That makes sense for them because they want to make money from their winnings. Even though they also know that gambling is for entertainment <...>

I just don't see the contradiction raised by the OP. Good gambling should be for entertainment, and betting money, and consequently being able to win more, gives it a touch of excitement. I think we've all played cards at one time or another, for example, to pass the time without betting money, but the moment you bet money there is more excitement.

The point is to do it responsibly and without thinking that gambling is a good way to make a living.

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October 10, 2023, 05:59:13 AM
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I just don't see the contradiction raised by the OP. Good gambling should be for entertainment, and betting money, and consequently being able to win more, gives it a touch of excitement. I think we've all played cards at one time or another, for example, to pass the time without betting money, but the moment you bet money there is more excitement.

The point is to do it responsibly and without thinking that gambling is a good way to make a living.
It has to be like that, but like I said, they want to make money from gambling, so they decide to keep gambling with even more money. They think they can get a big win especially if they increase their bets to double. But actually, their risk of losing will also be greater than before. That is why they must be fully aware of how to treat gambling as entertainment and not gamble excessively. Apart from that, they must also have self-control and money and time limits when gambling to prevent large losses. And yes, gambling responsibly is what we can do to prevent losses and serious problems such as gambling addiction, which many people have experienced.

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October 10, 2023, 07:47:13 AM
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It has to be like that, but like I said, they want to make money from gambling, so they decide to keep gambling with even more money. They think they can get a big win especially if they increase their bets to double. But actually, their risk of losing will also be greater than before. That is why they must be fully aware of how to treat gambling as entertainment and not gamble excessively. Apart from that, they must also have self-control and money and time limits when gambling to prevent large losses. And yes, gambling responsibly is what we can do to prevent losses and serious problems such as gambling addiction, which many people have experienced.
gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.

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October 10, 2023, 08:20:24 AM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


The forum advertising component is heavily funded by casinos. They make good money here because of people like you've described, those who don't even realize that the wool is over their eyes. The ones who think that they are gambling "for fun" and that they are there to spin the wheel, roll the dice or (not even) pull the crank just for the hell of it, and they just need the money to do so.

As others have said. Money is the vehicle...and you are totally right that without money, who would be playing these pointless games? Who would watch the slots tick just for free credits worth nothing?

I am sure that a casino with nothing but free credits existed, no one would play it except those who are hypnotized to the fullest extent...and if all casinos switched to free credits with no value, the industry would be dead in a heartbeat.
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October 10, 2023, 08:53:00 PM
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If in gambling, winning money is being abstracted, then Many Casino will short down because almost every gambler is only gambling for the sake of earning money. I said earlier today that if there are probably those that are only gambling for fun, then it should only be 10%, while the rest, 90%, are gamblers that are gambling for the sake of making money. When I started gambling, I knew I usually felt very sad if I lost money. The reason is that I gambled more often then, just to make some extra money, but this time around, I am no longer a student and am also managing my business and making my money. I don't gamble more frequently like before, and anytime I even gamble now, it's not with a huge sum but only a little amount that doesn't affect me in any way if I lose it all.

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October 11, 2023, 04:03:03 AM
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gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.
You are right in saying that each person who gambles must review their mindset so they can realize what mistakes they have made. If he sees that his mindset is different from his initial goal of gambling just for fun, he needs to correct it and return his goal to its original goal. He doesn't need to use gambling to make money, especially if he has experienced many losses while gambling. He should reduce his gambling activities to divert them to things that might be more beneficial for him. Maybe he could make money doing those other things so he wouldn't rely on gambling to make his money.

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October 11, 2023, 07:04:01 AM
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gambling responsibly, self control, and planning a budget for gambling, all of these are just ways to prevent losing more money and everything will come back to each person mindset. the reason I say this is because currently there are many people who have the wrong mindset towards gambling and whats worse, consider gambling as a place to earn income and there are many people who always increase their budget for gambling in the hope of getting bigger results while casinos dont will never give you a big win unless you are lucky.

It not very good to do this and its better to think about the bad risks involved in gambling so you dont expect too much from gambling.
You are right in saying that each person who gambles must review their mindset so they can realize what mistakes they have made. If he sees that his mindset is different from his initial goal of gambling just for fun, he needs to correct it and return his goal to its original goal. He doesn't need to use gambling to make money, especially if he has experienced many losses while gambling. He should reduce his gambling activities to divert them to things that might be more beneficial for him. Maybe he could make money doing those other things so he wouldn't rely on gambling to make his money.

How can they realize their mistakes if they are denial with the result they get. Usually these people are blaming other people or the casino for bad faith they are experiencing but if they just teach theirselves to be always in control maybe those kind of people will not post something negative that can destroy the reputation of others. Initially the goal why people gamble is to have fun but there are some few newbies fall for the trap set by those influencers telling that its easy for them to earn some money playing on casino that's why some cannot cope up with unfortunate things happen to them and think negative to their experiences. If those guys just found a right group of people that can make them realize that gambling is not a easy rich scheme for them for sure they will not expect any huge outcome for gambling and use this as alternative way to find fun on their boring days.

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October 11, 2023, 08:22:03 AM
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How other people feel about gambling is none of my business and make sure it's not yours too, because everyone is entitled to their feelings and opinions, I don't need to hear lies or truth from anyone, I am in gambling for myself, and my reasons, not for others opinion about gambling, so if they like they should keep lying or they should start speaking the truth, it's none of my business.

Still, here is MY opinion about gambling

You can't force someone to gain fun out of anything, even when you play video games they might be less fun to you because you don't like it or you are not just into it, yet you will see someone else hailing the game maker for a job well done, some people hate video games and some love video games, the reason why they hate is unknown.

Now if you are a gambler, the reason why you become one is either you want to make money or you plan to get rich in gambling, gambling has everything to do with the mind, and average gamblers are likely to defeat addiction than someone who have made up his mind to get rich in gambling.

I believe making money is why ninety-nine percent of people are into gambling, but some are smart to gain fun out of it while they gamble, it's their choice, and some people only want to see themselves win, they don't have time for the fun part.

Also how can someone get fun out of something that takes your money? That's if the money they use to place the bets are just a tip of their monthly earnings, they don't care about the losses because it's like giving up some dollars for kids to buy lollipop at the roadside, the way you handle gambling is the way gambling is going to handle you.

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October 11, 2023, 08:42:30 AM
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There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  Cheesy
That's exactly what it is when you are gambling for fun, you are basically free from every stress that most gamblers have, like, what if I lose all the money? What if I can't make anything? When you are gambling for fun and have a specific budget for it, you have no obligations, you don't need to reach a target, you don't need to chase your losses, and you don't need to gamble with care so you don't lose all the money, all you need to do is find the best games and best ways that you can use to have some fun and that's it.

People say that those who gamble for fun also care for wins, of course they do, how would it make any sense if they don't enjoy the wins? Nobody plays for losing, even if you are playing a game for fun, your primary goal is to win because that is where the actual fun is, you enjoy the game and then get a win, and that increases the joy.

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October 12, 2023, 02:21:20 AM
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How can they realize their mistakes if they are denial with the result they get. Usually these people are blaming other people or the casino for bad faith they are experiencing but if they just teach theirselves to be always in control maybe those kind of people will not post something negative that can destroy the reputation of others. Initially the goal why people gamble is to have fun but there are some few newbies fall for the trap set by those influencers telling that its easy for them to earn some money playing on casino that's why some cannot cope up with unfortunate things happen to them and think negative to their experiences. If those guys just found a right group of people that can make them realize that gambling is not a easy rich scheme for them for sure they will not expect any huge outcome for gambling and use this as alternative way to find fun on their boring days.
When they can introspect what they have gained from gambling and can think, then they can realize their mistakes. And if they realize that they have made a mistake, they want to correct it so they don't repeat it. This requires awareness and desire to do it but this is not easy because people tend to forget it and still gamble in the same way and there needs to be awareness to correct previous mistakes. If they only blame other people for their losses in gambling, they will only get deeper into gambling without any awareness of being able to change what has gone wrong. They don't think that it is due to a lack of awareness in acting and is just based on their lust because they have seen videos showing the wins of influencers. At least, they can think that ordinary people will not easily achieve the win of these influencers. Moreover, if there is collaboration between the influencer and the casino, the influencer's job is to influence people who watch the video to follow what the influencer is doing. People need to realize this so that they don't try to gamble seriously and only think of it as entertainment.

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October 12, 2023, 02:41:55 AM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.
The point here is that the POSSIBILITY of making profit from gambling makes the game entertaining. You don't have to always win, but just to have a chance of leaving with more money on your pockets than you came in, it's already a rewarding mindset for many gamblers who practice this hobby for years and even decades, without harming their finances, social relationships and their emotional.

The problem is that there is a new generation who was introduced to gambling just now and think they are entitled to always win, otherwise gambling is bad, should be banned and everyone involved on this industry is guilty for my losses...

The only truth is that gambling isn't designed to be a job or extra income method.

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October 14, 2023, 07:44:34 PM
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The only way to make free money in gambling is by winning through a free bet or a bonus but usually it's only given right after we sign up. There are other forms of bonuses who are given rarely like every week, every two week, and lastly per month.

We can as well get a free money out of them if we are lucky. Not all gamblers are proud of what they do and maybe they became a problematic gambler most of the times, that is why they hide it from the people and when they are being asked, they can lie and say they only play for fun. If I don't have a capital, I can sometimes play a gambling game in free/demo mode. I believe others do it too. So yes OP, people will still enjoy gambling if it's made to be a free game. It's the same, how we enjoy video games and other free to use/play entertainment.

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October 14, 2023, 09:49:58 PM
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There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  Cheesy
We're humans and we have our targets to meet up for the days of our lives, not backing down on our dreams and ensuring we have achieved the necessities of life. Gambling have sent many gamblers back to trenches and have also brighten up the wise ones. Always bear in mind that gambling can mutilply our initial capital deposited and capable of liquidating our account within a blink of an eye. I've experience worst memories and incidents concerning the space, but holding firm and not giving up, this time I've gather the basic knowledge of gambling.

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October 14, 2023, 09:58:41 PM
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There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  Cheesy
But we all know that majority of the gamblers only gamble just to make profits, regardless if they are still being entertained or not. That’s how greedy the gamblers are. The only difference is that some gamblers are able to manage their greed, while others have made their greed totally control theirselves. And when you are in the latter side, you know that you will definitely fall into gambling addiction that when not eagerly controlled, you will suffer from too much financial loss and even push you to do things out of your right thinking.

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October 14, 2023, 10:34:20 PM
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There are a difference when you are playing to make money to gamble longer for fun .... and when you are gambling to hit that big jackpot to make a profit. A gambler that are playing for entertainment, knows that they they are going to lose all their money and they are good with that, because they have an entertainment budget that they can lose.

It is like you spending money from your entertainment budget to go watch movies.... you do not care for the money that you spend on the tickets, because you enjoyed the movie.  Cheesy
But we all know that majority of the gamblers only gamble just to make profits, regardless if they are still being entertained or not. That’s how greedy the gamblers are. The only difference is that some gamblers are able to manage their greed, while others have made their greed totally control theirselves. And when you are in the latter side, you know that you will definitely fall into gambling addiction that when not eagerly controlled, you will suffer from too much financial loss and even push you to do things out of your right thinking.

it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.

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