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October 14, 2023, 10:40:53 PM
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it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.


The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.
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October 15, 2023, 08:18:12 PM
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it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.
Those that do not gamble may think of gamblers as hypocrites due to the point you bring, however we can be both, a person that enjoys gambling just for the entertainment value that it offer to us, while at the same time we enjoy any profits that may come our way, after all who would not like to become a millionaire without having to work as hard as those people do? Obviously I would like that, but since I know it is very unlikely it will happen, especially with the low amount of money I use to bet, then I assume it will never happen and keep myself content by gambling just for the fun of it.



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October 15, 2023, 08:29:49 PM
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The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.

Many people do it for entertainment or simply to kill time.
Some use it for the thrill, adrenaline.
Some others use it to enhance their experience while watching sports.

Saying that there's no fun in gambling is pure denial of people who lost, feel sad about it and want to explain the whole process to themselves.
I perosnally know many people who gamble for "fun" although their definition of fun differs and might not be what you, or OP, consider to be fun.

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October 15, 2023, 09:29:09 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

So are you saying spending to entertainment and hobby like parties, watching movies, outing and hiking takes away the fun because one is intentionally throwing money just to have a good time and it is not worth doing it?

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


Well if there is a game where I can win a prize without spending money then I would gladly participate. On the other side, if the game is worth playing even without any rewards then I do not mind playing.  Have you played MMORPG and games like mobile legend or DOTA and other MOBA games?  People get addicted to these kind of game even without money to gain in these games.
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October 15, 2023, 09:35:59 PM
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it is indeed dependent on how a gambler approaches his gambling activities. what are his goals why he is into gambling? and most definitely, most are after for the winnings. you'll be hypocrite if you say you don't want to hit big. but of course, you need to look at reality here, if you are betting small, of course, you won't expect that you will win big as well.


The gambler get into the gambling by the motive of the winning from the gambling,but only few use the gambling for the entertainment.Mostly the rich people use the gambling for the entertainment,because the rich people had the enough money to run their life.If the gambler had a chance to loss the big money in the gambling,he need to understand.He will get the another chance for the big money as the winning from the gambling.So the probability of win and loss was equal in the gambling.Some gambler doesn’t accept they get into the gambling for the big win.But the poor gambler mostly use the gambling for their upliftment of life in single day using the gambling.

The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.

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October 19, 2023, 09:20:49 PM
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The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.
This is a rational approach to gambling and in a perfect world it would work, but it is often the case that people are not really rational, and instead they are chasing their dreams by following their strongest inner desires, but this can be very problematic as in that case it is going to be very difficult to convince those people to not gamble or to at least to not do so in order to obtain profits, because deep down they believe there is a way for them to win, even when all the evidence points towards the opposite outcome.



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October 19, 2023, 10:42:28 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.


What is the purpose of casinos? What is the motivation for gamblers? There is only one solution to these two questions: "money." If there is no money, there will almost likely be no casino in this business, and if there is no casino, there will be no gamblers. However, there are other gamblers who can gamble even when they are not in a casino.

However, the gambler continues since "money" is still present. It appears that a gambler can be utilized for many things in order to gamble, and they can gamble because of "money," but how can this be caused by poverty? Others aim to become wealthy quickly by gambling or winning the lottery.



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This is a rational approach to gambling and in a perfect world it would work, but it is often the case that people are not really rational, and instead they are chasing their dreams by following their strongest inner desires, but this can be very problematic as in that case it is going to be very difficult to convince those people to not gamble or to at least to not do so in order to obtain profits, because deep down they believe there is a way for them to win, even when all the evidence points towards the opposite outcome.

The gambler will have the positive approach to the gambling and mostly they won’t get into the rational approach on the gambling.The gambler who was new to the gambling will look the gambling in the different way,if the gambler loss the money in the random loss.Then the gambler get the rational thoughts in the gambling.The gambler should get into the pessimistic way of approach in the gambling,So they will win the game one day.But to win the game in the gambling ,he need to survive in the game.So the luck will favour the person who long survive in the gambling field.This was common to the most of the successful story.
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October 19, 2023, 10:52:25 PM
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The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.

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October 19, 2023, 11:25:32 PM
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Many people do it for entertainment or simply to kill time.
Some use it for the thrill, adrenaline.
Some others use it to enhance their experience while watching sports.

Saying that there's no fun in gambling is pure denial of people who lost, feel sad about it and want to explain the whole process to themselves.
I perosnally know many people who gamble for "fun" although their definition of fun differs and might not be what you, or OP, consider to be fun.

I agree, that excitement, fun, and thrill, are things we experience in gambling.  Even those who lost in their gambling activities also feel these things too.  It is that these people are emphasizing on the bitter experience of losing forgetting how they once got excited about the first big wins they experienced.

The gambling houses are well aware of this that people sometimes go a bit further and risk the addiction by not focusing on entertainment but rather focusing on getting to win a lot of money that is why they or at least most of the reputable ones have a page or a blog linked to the site that anyone can read and see that if you are playing to win you should stop gambling as gambling is not for you.There is a section called know your odds and if you read them carefully you will stop about how much you can win but just set a budget,have fun and stop when that budget ends.

Entertainment or winning for profit, they are both addictive.  This is one major reason gambling sites have a page for responsible gambling, it is that the casino is not emphasizing this thing and is more focused on giving bonuses and rewards to attract more players and I understand since it is a business and the owner's goal is to thrive.

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October 20, 2023, 12:00:10 AM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

We are in the same shoes. I like free money especially the legal ones. Anyone who has won money from casinos will understand this. The thoughts of draws is sometimes to the casino.

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Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Nothing wrong with that. It is their own choice. And some people actually just gamble for the fun of it but these people ai believe are senior citizens only.

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Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

I'd be lying if I said yes. It will make it less fun. The money is the rewards. We as humans like rewards.
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The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.

And that is the big question here, are there gamblers that are responsible enough? Because as based on my experienced, even if you are winning huge already you don't want to quit and chase more because you think that you are lucky and looking for more money, so the greed part sets-in. And once you taste that big win, you can't get out of it that most of the time we become gambling addicts ourself.

So good for you if you feel great even if you lose in the long run and just have some fun along the way. But obviously, majority of the gamblers when they play, then want to win and win big, in my opinion.

Maybe each and everyone here is very difficult as far as they approach gambling. But if you continue to lose money just because you want to have some fun and entertainment? I'll just leave the open question.
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And that is the big question here, are there gamblers that are responsible enough? Because as based on my experienced, even if you are winning huge already you don't want to quit and chase more because you think that you are lucky and looking for more money, so the greed part sets-in. And once you taste that big win, you can't get out of it that most of the time we become gambling addicts ourself.

So good for you if you feel great even if you lose in the long run and just have some fun along the way. But obviously, majority of the gamblers when they play, then want to win and win big, in my opinion.

Maybe each and everyone here is very difficult as far as they approach gambling. But if you continue to lose money just because you want to have some fun and entertainment? I'll just leave the open question.
Getting a big win will only give a person pleasure, and he will want a bigger win. That will trigger him to play longer than usual because he sees that he still has a lot of money to continue gambling. It would be riskier because the winnings he had earned could be used until there was nothing left at all and that would only give him deep regret because he had wasted the winnings.

And it is true that most gamblers who have won big find it difficult to stop gambling. They will only see that they have already won and may be able to win again in the next round. Even though that was just the temptation they got and if his self-control was strong, he would not be tempted by that temptation and could leave the casino without thinking about gambling again.

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The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.
It requires a special kind of personality in order to give up on the idea of gambling to obtain profits, because even those that think of gambling as just a way to relax themselves want to win, this is what leads some of those people to present gambling issues, as slowly but surely that initial goal is subverted and eventually they begin to gamble in order to obtain profits without even realizing this has happened until it is too late, and a great deal of their wealth has been lost already.



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October 23, 2023, 05:45:36 PM
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The thing is, responsible people make money from gambling not just because they desire it, but because they're responsible enough to know that rushing headlong and belligerently gambling your way out of it isn't going to be the solution. To make things simpler I just advocate against gambling for profit, cause more often than not it spirals down into gambling addiction anyway when you're gambling from a place of lacking. I would agree, I myself wouldn't mind if I earn a few bucks here and there while I'm gambling, but do I make it the whole point of my gambling sessions? No. The main reason why I do so is to just burn money and find a way to have fun without having to touch grass.

The gambler who had enough money will be the responsible gambler most of the time.The person who had huge money will know the value of the money,the gambler who had less money will not respect the money he used for the betting.So the winning for the gambler will be favour the person who respect the money in the gambling sites.The poor gambler only target the big win and play the game continuously till the big win was achieved in the gambling.When the gambler had enough time to analysis the game,he should not do the random bet.The random bet never favour the winning for the gambler,So the gambler should ready to accept the loss in the gambling.
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October 23, 2023, 06:44:13 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

People's intentions in general are to gamble to make more money (usually those who still have just enough finances) but it cannot be denied that there are also some people who gamble just to have fun, they don't care about the money they spend when gambling, they want to boost their adrenaline and that has become their need.  if you go around large offline casinos, you will see many rich people whose income is very stable, gambling just for fun.  the conclusion that i can say is that everyone's reasons for gambling are different, and cannot be classified as one reason.
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October 28, 2023, 09:54:45 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

People's intentions in general are to gamble to make more money (usually those who still have just enough finances) but it cannot be denied that there are also some people who gamble just to have fun, they don't care about the money they spend when gambling, they want to boost their adrenaline and that has become their need.  if you go around large offline casinos, you will see many rich people whose income is very stable, gambling just for fun.  the conclusion that i can say is that everyone's reasons for gambling are different, and cannot be classified as one reason.

When we are in a casino, that is what we want to win every time we go to play, that is something that is noticeable and that is very normal, I would think that things can be like that, if basically things can happen as much as possible to win It is done, but all of us, what we should do is have fun and try to earn more money than we put in, if we achieve it, well, we have done it, otherwise we do not achieve it, then we must wait, for this we have I have to be clear about what I have said before in other threads, and that is that a higher index of:

1.-Budget willing to lose.

2.-Try to win.

3.-Have fun.

If in our case we do not win, then what we should do is not put more money to continue winning or playing, we must be respectful if our money runs out in that game session. We must play without falling into addiction, we must always consider playing to have fun and if we win then fine, but we also have to see what things we can improve on.

Every time we have a way of doing things better we have to adopt them, because even with the smallest mistakes we learn, so of course we will always try to make money, it is something that we cannot avoid, which is that the theme of games make us slow down our game a lot to win, it is normal, I have said many times that casinos are made to win, but they, the owners, because they are companies, they are businesses under which we have the best option to do anything, Now the casinos have many options that make us excited, because they have bonuses, and contests where any player can do their thing, and obviously we have to take advantage of that, so if we pay attention to that we can continue to improve, and I believe that Improve the game because the possibilities of winning money increase.

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October 28, 2023, 10:36:11 PM
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Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?
Let me answer this question.

Fun, in general, is a feeling of enjoyment, amusement, or light-hearted pleasure. Money can be used to attain fun. People gamble for fun because there is always amusement and excitement when they win. They don't care about their losses. they are there solely for the amazing feeling of winning when their predictions are correct. Similarly, people willingly spend a huge amount of money when they go to clubs, parties, and participate in recreational activities, all in the name of fun. They don't feel regretful about the money they spend to derive that enjoyment. In the country where I come from, I pay money to play 8-ball pool because I don't have it at my house. Every evening, I dedicate time to go and play, even when I lose. I'm willing to pay more money to continue playing because I take pleasure in doing so.

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October 28, 2023, 11:20:09 PM
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Let me answer this question.

Fun, in general, is a feeling of enjoyment, amusement, or light-hearted pleasure. Money can be used to attain fun. People gamble for fun because there is always amusement and excitement when they win. They don't care about their losses. they are there solely for the amazing feeling of winning when their predictions are correct. Similarly, people willingly spend a huge amount of money when they go to clubs, parties, and participate in recreational activities, all in the name of fun. They don't feel regretful about the money they spend to derive that enjoyment. In the country where I come from, I pay money to play 8-ball pool because I don't have it at my house. Every evening, I dedicate time to go and play, even when I lose. I'm willing to pay more money to continue playing because I take pleasure in doing so.


The fun will not give pressure in the real world,even in the gambling.The taking of the fun or real world by the human may differ,the kid can miss their sleep to play the cricket game in the ground.But it may be seems the small one.But the dedication was the important factor in this incident,like wise the gambler should get dedicated to the gambling games.If he get dedicated to the game,he never worry about the small loss in the gambling.He will consider the gambling as the entertainment giving game and never considered this as the game which give regular income in the daily basis by participation of the game.
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October 28, 2023, 11:27:53 PM
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Take it or leave it, some part of me still want to make free money from gambling, even when I don't gamble every day, and while I am a very cautious gambler.

Some people are trying to hide behind the cotton, stating that they are gambling for the fun of it, I will like to ask them this question if I can get them to answer.

Is there any spirit of good will when you intentionally give your money away in order to just have a good time gambling?

Because taking money away from gambling simply makes the game not worth playing.

Will you still participate if money is not involved? Many people will easily quit if all casinos are to be turned into no-money games, isn't it?

Money is still the real reasons why we gamble, been addicted or not, mutual greed or not, all gambling is done to make more money or get some form of reward in the end.

Maybe we really do not want the money but at some point our mind gets corrupted thinking what would happen if you win the money and what will happen if you don't. Money has value and therefore we are touched value to the game called gambling. I have not made any gambling who just combos for fun without any money or finto your financial rewards .

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