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October 07, 2023, 08:54:42 PM
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Latest news from Palestine, Israel and the Gaza strip: Hamas fighters attacked Israeli territories, towns and even captured a military base with all the armored vehicles and arms. Hamas fired more than 2200 missiles and the legendary Iron Dome failed to protect Israel with many missiles getting through and exploding in the streets. Lots of people were kidnapped, some executed. The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.   

Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?
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October 07, 2023, 09:45:57 PM
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Initially the Palestinian military group Hamas have launched ground operation from Gaza Strip. The country is full of Siren sounds and the attack is a complete surprise for the Israeli security forces. Hamas had purposely started the fight and entered the Gaza Israel border. There is no sign of peace as the Hamas Military commander have called Palestinians to launch attack. For some time period the people of the countries were leading peaceful life and once again it had started and the impact can soon be seen on the whole will worsen the crisis.

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October 07, 2023, 09:56:08 PM
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If you want to determine whether a war affects the global economy, examine a few things -- One being the GDP of involved countries, two being the total import and export products/volumes, and three being geographical locations (whether the country's near shipping corridors or critical airspace for flight logistics).

And so with that, it shouldn't pose that large of a threat. Israel has a high GDP, Palestine does not. And Israel could effectively wipe Palestine off the map if they wish.

Israel's calling this a "war" for PR purposes and to rally countries around them. Is it really a war when one side is so outmatched?
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October 07, 2023, 10:47:57 PM
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The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.

This particular update is not true, be sure of what you are saying not to mislead people.
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October 07, 2023, 11:36:56 PM
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If you want to determine whether a war affects the global economy, examine a few things -- One being the GDP of involved countries, two being the total import and export products/volumes, and three being geographical locations (whether the country's near shipping corridors or critical airspace for flight logistics).

And so with that, it shouldn't pose that large of a threat. Israel has a high GDP, Palestine does not. And Israel could effectively wipe Palestine off the map if they wish.

Israel's calling this a "war" for PR purposes and to rally countries around them. Is it really a war when one side is so outmatched?
So, one has to wonder, if they are so powerful, why haven't they wiped the arabs off the map after 60 years of conflict? What do you think is keeping Palestine from total destruction?  If it's not a war then what is it, cat chasing mouse?

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October 07, 2023, 11:43:37 PM
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Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?

I don’t know about worsening the global economic situation. The added pressure of another war will more likely force the Fed to lower rates and the Government to begin issuing stimulus in order to keep this from sending us into a deep recession. Fighting a war on two fronts is going to really put our currency to the test. In other words, we are so screwed, but war spending will allow us to kick the can further down the road again.

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October 08, 2023, 01:02:27 AM
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If you want to determine whether a war affects the global economy, examine a few things -- One being the GDP of involved countries, two being the total import and export products/volumes, and three being geographical locations (whether the country's near shipping corridors or critical airspace for flight logistics).

And so with that, it shouldn't pose that large of a threat. Israel has a high GDP, Palestine does not. And Israel could effectively wipe Palestine off the map if they wish.

Israel's calling this a "war" for PR purposes and to rally countries around them. Is it really a war when one side is so outmatched?
So, one has to wonder, if they are so powerful, why haven't they wiped the arabs off the map after 60 years of conflict? What do you think is keeping Palestine from total destruction?  If it's not a war then what is it, cat chasing mouse?

Because innocent civilians would get caught in the crossfire.
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October 08, 2023, 03:28:15 AM
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Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?
If only the attacks carried out by Hamas against Israel could lead to total war. Maybe this will have an impact on the global economy. Because until now the conflict between Israel and Palestine has not reached the stage of total war. So there is no significant impact from the feud between the two countries. Because Israel's colonization of Palestine was carried out very slowly and did not immediately colonize Palestine completely. I don't know what the reason is, but what is certain is that there is something we don't know about this. Because if you look at the military strength that Israel has and compare it with the military strength that Palestine has, the difference in military strength between the two countries is very large.

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It be seen that Israel military strength is currently ranked 18th in the world.
So in essence, if you look at its military strength, Israel can actually control the Palestinian state in total. The reason is that the military strength possessed by Palestine is not comparable to that of Israel. But perhaps for some reason Israel did not do that.

And the conclusion that I can draw from the Israeli and Palestinian conflict is that it can indeed affect the state of the global economy. However, this depends on the scale of the war taking place in the two countries.

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October 08, 2023, 03:58:14 AM
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Was traveling, but I heard about this thing.  Bitchute search is down (again) so my go-to for non-Zionist-curated quick-checks of reality is limited.

My very first thought with the 'news' about dastardly Muslims paragliding in guns blazing is that it sounds exactly like one would expect from the Hollywood Kabbalists who run most of the world's perception of reality (95% of the goyim and 90% of the 'Jews' who tend not to be quite as gullible for whatever set of reasons).  The view-bite clips I've seen so far also look quite on the fakish side.  I guess we'll just have to what the real story is with time.

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Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?
It is not a (re)emerging conflict, it is an ongoing conflict for the past almost 80 years that Palestine has been occupied. It's just making a lot of noise in the media because over the past 24 hours, it has been the Palestinian resistance that is hitting back and not the terrorist organization commonly known as Israel.

For example if you search the entire Western or Russian media you will not find anything regarding the IDF terrorist raiding the Al-Aqsa Mosque 48+ hours ago, brutally beat the women praying there, rip off their cloths assaulting them. In other words the main reason why the Palestinians rose up and started feeing their cities one at a time.

Hamas fired more than 2200 missiles and the legendary Iron Dome failed to protect Israel with many missiles getting through and exploding in the streets.
Only in the initial phase 5000 rockets were launched in 20 minutes ie. ~4 rockets/sec Wink
The number of missiles launched was smaller.

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October 08, 2023, 07:08:50 AM
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This particular update is not true, be sure of what you are saying not to mislead people.

Perhaps you can elaborate more on this statement? Why do you think it's not true? It's pretty clear that US is on the Israeli side. You can google and find lots of sources supporting this claim. If I'm not mistaken, there was even an official statement by the US military. Ukraine and Zelensky also commented on this, saying something like "Israel has a right to defend itself".

As to Russia's support of Hamas, I haven't seen any official statements by the Kremlin so far and I have limited access to Russian media but some sources claim that Russians are ridiculing Israel's defensive efforts and are happy to distract US's attention from Ukraine. Iran-backed Hamas seems to get more support from Russia for political reasons.
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As to Russia's support of Hamas, I haven't seen any official statements by the Kremlin so far and I have limited access to Russian media but some sources claim that Russians are ridiculing Israel's defensive efforts and are happy to distract US's attention from Ukraine. Iran-backed Hamas seems to get more support from Russia for political reasons.
Russia does not support Hamas, although it does not classify it as a terrorist organization and considers the leaders of its political wing to be legitimate partners for negotiations (at the same time, the Muslim Brotherhood, from which Hamas spun off in 1987, is considered a terrorist organization in Russia). It can be assumed that Russia's sympathies are on the side of the Palestinian people, but there is no need to draw far-reaching political conclusions from this.

Russia is a multinational secular state and any radical religious manifestations are unacceptable for it.

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October 08, 2023, 03:38:44 PM
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For example if you search the entire Western or Russian media you will not find anything regarding the IDF terrorist raiding the Al-Aqsa Mosque 48+ hours ago, brutally beat the women praying there, rip off their cloths assaulting them. In other words the main reason why the Palestinians rose up and started feeing their cities one at a time.
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Only in the initial phase 5000 rockets were launched in 20 minutes ie. ~4 rockets/sec Wink
The number of missiles launched was smaller.
I was not aware of this incident, but I think it might not be the main reason or might be I can not say for confirmation because many incidents occurred at Al-Aqsa Mosque, and many Muslims were assaulted there for no reason. I don't want to show my feelings here but I have one word for the whole scenario is that.

The media is showing what he has not to, governments will join those, from which they will have more benefits. Either they are Russia or the US.

I have watched many videos of the attacks from both sides on TikTok because such videos are deleted by the media in no time, I when read the title of this topic, I thought it would also be deleted from here, but I came here to know what members of this forum have to say about this incident. I was also in doubt about the number of missiles thanks for the confirmation.

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Because innocent civilians would get caught in the crossfire.
So are you telling me a racist, illegitimate totalitarian, genocidal state is worried about "innocent" "civilians"?
Maybe if you were their prime minister we could have had some entertainment on a daily basis, because you are funny. Zionists are the most brutal and merciless faction in judaism.

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October 08, 2023, 04:11:55 PM
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The region has always been sensitive over the years. And I guess the conflict will grow more extensive as the Israelis will indeed search and attack Hamas bases while the latter will continue their full-scale attacks. What is sad are the innocent civilians suffering from both sides.

Of course, the conflict will have an effect although it might not be that big. Palestine and Israeli trade will be affected but in a worst-case scenario, there might be some alternatives to their products and services.

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October 08, 2023, 04:18:27 PM
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Latest news from Palestine, Israel and the Gaza strip: Hamas fighters attacked Israeli territories, towns and even captured a military base with all the armored vehicles and arms. Hamas fired more than 2200 missiles and the legendary Iron Dome failed to protect Israel with many missiles getting through and exploding in the streets. Lots of people were kidnapped, some executed. The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.  

Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?
Russia do not support Hamas. It is Iran, which support Hamas movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Russia_relations - Following their first meeting in October 2021, Bennett described Putin as a "true friend of the Jewish people", noting that he and Putin discussed "ways to deal with Islamic fundamentalism".

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I was not aware of this incident, but I think it might not be the main reason or might be I can not say for confirmation because many incidents occurred at Al-Aqsa Mosque, and many Muslims were assaulted there for no reason.
Past week alone was filled with assaults such as the one I explained and the Arabic media is filled with news of it and the anger of people's from different countries condemning these atrocities and the Palestinian resistance warning the Zionist extremists of a retaliation. But of course the heavily censored Western media only covers the story from right after the retaliation portraying it as if the Palestinian resistance is the starter and the extremist occupiers are the oppressed!

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I have watched many videos of the attacks from both sides on TikTok because such videos are deleted by the media in no time, I when read the title of this topic, I thought it would also be deleted from here, but I came here to know what members of this forum have to say about this incident.
One good thing about this forum is that despite being US based it does not follow the US censorship enforcements. Possibly because discussions here do not get the same amount of traffic like other places such as reddit, twitter, etc. get. Like this topic that has only gotten 90+ views. So the "choke acts" that US regime tends to issue in cases like this do not apply here Roll Eyes

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October 08, 2023, 04:32:16 PM
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To be honest, I believe this conflict can only add negative point towards the currently geopolitics we are witnessing around us.

It is obvious the United States was going to continue to be supportive of Israel, but I was not aware or well informed on the Russian support some Palestinian groups are allegedly getting from Putin.

I have read a bit about this conflict and this attack which happened yesterday, and I must admit the images that emerged from news are quite disturbing and heartbreaking. It seems like peace won't even exist there...

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October 08, 2023, 04:33:14 PM
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Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?
According to Wikipedia Israel suppliers diamonds, refined petroleum, pharmaceuticals, machinery and equipment, medical instruments, computer hardware and software, agricultural products, chemicals, textiles and apparel.While Palestine exports olives, fruit, vegetables, limestone, citrus, flowers, textiles.

This war will hinder the production and distribution of these goods which will lead to an increase in price. The economy of trading partners of both Israel and Palestine will be negatively affected. This war will also lead to mass refugee crises leading to mass immigration. The economy of neighboring countries will be affected because of pressure on basic infrastructure and an increase in government spending. Allies of both parties will have to use money that would have been invested in key sectors to sponsor this war, which will lead to slow global economic growth. We can't also quantify the loss of human resources. Skilled people that would have contributed to global economy might die or become disabled due to life-threatening injuries.

As to Russia's support of Hamas, I haven't seen any official statements by the Kremlin so far and I have limited access to Russian media but some sources claim that Russians are ridiculing Israel's defensive efforts and are happy to distract US's attention from Ukraine. Iran-backed Hamas seems to get more support from Russia for political reasons.
There are some speculations that Hamas wouldn't have carried out this kind of successful assault without external support. Some political analysts believe Russia might be one of the backers of Hamas. They are assuming that with a war in Israel, US and NATO's attention will be divided meaning that Ukraine will not get the needed support. It's normal to see your enemy suffer defeat, it is not strange to see Russia mock Israel.

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October 08, 2023, 04:44:36 PM
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It is obvious the United States was going to continue to be supportive of Israel, but I was not aware or well informed on the Russian support some Palestinian groups are allegedly getting from Putin.
Ive seen some reports that US mighy help or provide support for Israel country however Im not sure of the latter cause this might trigger a bigger if its true since those two Super country are indeed hate each other. I do hope the ongoing war can be stopped but judging from casualties probably both sides wouldnt stop. Its sads that some foreign countries are being affected on this war.

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