Can Israeli - Palestinian conflict worsen the crisis?

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According to Wikipedia Israel suppliers diamonds, refined petroleum, pharmaceuticals, machinery and equipment, medical instruments, computer hardware and software, agricultural products, chemicals, textiles and apparel.While Palestine exports olives, fruit, vegetables, limestone, citrus, flowers, textiles.

This war will hinder the production and distribution of these goods which will lead to an increase in price. The economy of trading partners of both Israel and Palestine will be negatively affected. This war will also lead to mass refugee crises leading to mass immigration. The economy of neighboring countries will be affected because of pressure on basic infrastructure and an increase in government spending. Allies of both parties will have to use money that would have been invested in key sectors to sponsor this war, which will lead to slow global economic growth. We can't also quantify the loss of human resources. Skilled people that would have contributed to global economy might die or become disabled due to life-threatening injuries.

True, but not limited to this. Other countries in the region may get involved as well and then their economies will be affected too. Some candidates are: Lebanon, Iran and Egypt. But there are other potential allies of each side of the conflict.

There are some speculations that Hamas wouldn't have carried out this kind of successful assault without external support. Some political analysts believe Russia might be one of the backers of Hamas. They are assuming that with a war in Israel, US and NATO's attention will be divided meaning that Ukraine will not get the needed support. It's normal to see your enemy suffer defeat, it is not strange to see Russia mock Israel.

Exactly, this is pretty obvious. But I don't think we can expect any official statement on this by Russia.  

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[JeromeTash]

Nah, the Globe will just be fine. Neither Israel nor Palestine hold a huge chunk of oil or gas resources as compared to the likes of Russia, Saudi Arabia or the UAE. So how exactly is their conflict going to affect the oil or gas prices. The conflict has been on going since before i was born so there's nothing new here. Just same old same.

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Nah, the Globe will just be fine. Neither Israel nor Palestine hold a huge chunk of oil or gas resources as compared to the likes of Russia, Saudi Arabia or the UAE. So how exactly is their conflict going to affect the oil or gas prices. The conflict has been on going since before i was born so there's nothing new here. Just same old same.

Plot twist: Saudi Arabia and UAE as Arab states take the side of Palestine and start to actively participate in the conflict. Taking into account they're cutting their ties to the US and leaning towards Russia it's entirely possible. What is going to happen then?

[sunsilk]

With what we've seen the casualties from these wars are really not going to be good for all of us. Some may benefit but majority of us won't.

Emotionally, when we just hear the word 'war' and it actually happens, what we're thinking about is the effects of the first war that has happened with Ukraine and Russia. Although there are better resources there that's being exported worldwide.

The thought that we're having emotionally will certainly affect many of us. While there will be folks that won't care about it because it's not near to them.

Who are having anxiety about all of these wars? Whether it's with Ukraine and Russia or Israel and Palestine?

And to those that haven't heard yet the news, watch the video made by WSJ on YouTube. It's short and precise on how it started.

[Hispo]

It is obvious the United States was going to continue to be supportive of Israel, but I was not aware or well informed on the Russian support some Palestinian groups are allegedly getting from Putin.

Ive seen some reports that US mighy help or provide support for Israel country however Im not sure of the latter cause this might trigger a bigger if its true since those two Super country are indeed hate each other. I do hope the ongoing war can be stopped but judging from casualties probably both sides wouldnt stop. Its sads that some foreign countries are being affected on this war.

Depends whom you ask, some will tell you Palestine is not an actual country. It is rather a local or regional war, but with very significant international repercutions.
I would not expect to see an end on this conflict in my life time, to be honest, it has been decades of death, occupation of territory and disregard of human rights.

The worst part is the fact there is innocent people stuck in the Gaza strip without a chance to live a normal life, because all this insane situation, people who have nothing to do politically with this conflict.

[cryptoaddictchie]

The worst part is the fact there is innocent people stuck in the Gaza strip without a chance to live a normal life, because all this insane situation, people who have nothing to do politically with this conflict.

Thats the sad part. Ive heard that Israel Prime Minister announced on TV that they will heavily bombard and attack Gaza area so giving warning to civilian that they attack everywhere to flush out the Palestine terrorist. Yes they may have been attacked first but having said this? Does he not care about the Civilian being dragged by this? Also on the otherside some personality or innocent people been kidnapped and killed. Oh Boy, hope someone could stop this madness by them. No ones gonna lose on both sides but only the civilian being caught by the war.

[pooya87]

Plot twist: Saudi Arabia and UAE as Arab states take the side of Palestine and start to actively participate in the conflict. Taking into account they're cutting their ties to the US and leaning towards Russia it's entirely possible. What is going to happen then?

What do you mean by "participate"? Just because they made a statement out of fear it doesn't mean they are participating in anything. Both Saudi and UAE dictators know very well that the country they invaded in the past 9 years called Yemen is now capable of bombing them back to stone age and Yemen supports Palestinian struggle for freedom. They have to make these statements because they know that Yemen has legitimate cause to attack them (as they are the invaders and haven't yet fully left the Yemeni's soil).

the Palestine terrorist.

I wonder if anybody dares call people of Ukraine terrorists?
After all Ukrainians are doing the same thing as Palestinians do, they've picked up arms and are attacking the invaders who are occupying their homes.
Although the difference is that Russia is only occupying Ukraine while Zionists are committing genocide in Palestine...

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the Palestine terrorist.

I wonder if anybody dares call people of Ukraine terrorists?
After all Ukrainians are doing the same thing as Palestinians do, they've picked up arms and are attacking the invaders who are occupying their homes.
Although the difference is that Russia is only occupying Ukraine while Zionists are committing genocide in Palestine...

Good point, I guess it's "double standards" as always.

Meanwhile, oil prices reacted to the news exactly as I predicted:

Oil prices surged after the conflict between Israel and Hamas intensified, and traders are watching for spillover effects on oil supply in the region. Futures for Brent crude, the global benchmark, rose about 3.4% to $87.43 a barrel, and West Texas Intermediate crude futures climbed 3.9% to $85.99 a barrel on Monday.

The moves were a knee-jerk response from the market, said Kelvin Yew, a senior oil trader at the commodity-trading firm Ocean Leonid Investments. “There is very little oil production in that region, but the market is pricing in the possibility of an escalation,” Yew said. Iranian security officials helped plan Hamas’s attack on Israel, The Wall Street Journal has reported. That support has led the market to price in contagion risks, including the possibility of legislation being enacted in the U.S. to stop lifting sanctions on Iran, Yew added.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets-attack-palestinians/card/oil-futures-surge-on-concern-israel-hamas-conflict-to-escalate-vrWPAJ6xNvZARrQfbQYl

There are reports of some airstrikes by Israeli airforce on the residential areas in Gaza, as a result 436 civilians, including 91 children reported dead.

[pooya87]

Meanwhile, oil prices reacted to the news exactly as I predicted:

Some analysts are starting to compare things with the 1970's situation (1973-ish) where the oil price went from about $3-$4 up to $12-$15 which is about 4x rise!

Meanwhile United States has not yet dared enter this conflict despite having a large force in the region (like the Ford Carrier Strike Group in Eastern Mediterranean or baes in Syria, Jordan, Iraq, etc.) simply because the Resistance threatened to wipe out all their bases in Middle East.
We have to wait and see if the Zionist lobby infestation in United States is going to be able to push them into making this stupid mistake and the scale of the response so we can see if there is a possibility to say hello to $400-$500 per oil barrel...

P.S. I wonder if Israel is going to sink another US Navy ship like USS Liberty in '67 lol

[Ucy]

Latest news from Palestine, Israel and the Gaza strip: Hamas fighters attacked Israeli territories, towns and even captured a military base with all the armored vehicles and arms. Hamas fired more than 2200 missiles and the legendary Iron Dome failed to protect Israel with many missiles getting through and exploding in the streets. Lots of people were kidnapped, some executed. The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.  

Will this (re)emerging conflict fuel a new war and worsen the global economic situation?

In regards to the bolded part, once the spiritual defense or shield is weakened there is nothing much the physical defense can do. It's obvious the defense will be penetrated due to the hardened rebels within, pm unfairly worked against a vulnerable Russian ally/country that was protected like himself, and he sought support from the weak leadership in Babylon.

You think Russia is taking side in the conflict? I haven't seen that yet.

In regards to whether the conflict will escalate the world's problems, it depends on how many countries/people wrongly participate in it

[Pingrapole]

This is a big threat to the world, it is natural that the two superpowers will fuel all kinds of wars, as a result of which the world situation will not only worsen, but the situation will worsen The United States took direct sides because the United States dreamed of establishing the State of Israel and through Belfo research was able to establish the State of Israel and Israel Who is using it to carry out all kinds of criminal activities because Israel, known as the arm of the US in the Middle East, has done many injustices by this state and now the US is in the Middle East Can't hold their influence now those who are attacking them deserve it. The purpose of saying this is not to blame anyone.If this war turns into a war in the region, the world will be in for an even more horrific scene as the oil in the region solves most of the world's energy crisis when When a war breaks out, all marketing activities of oil production will stop and oil is a resource more valuable than gold because it is possible to control the whole world with oil It is possible to carry out any activities without oil at present, therefore, to worsen the world situation, now both sides or the superpowers will try to make the war more stable by providing various assistance, here is the US It is natural that the US will want to return to their previous positions so that they can control and Russia will interfere in all US activities in retaliation The Western world has all kinds of plans to prolong the war so that the war will not end so easily and the response that Palestine has given is what they deserve. There is no wrong decision here. When Israel carries out mass killings, there is no one to speak out, but when Hamas launches a major attack, leaders around the world do not hesitate to speak in a variety of ways, suggesting that killing their own people is set But if there are others, then it is beautiful outside and happy inside Here one thing is clear that their defense system is weak which will further their danger The big bad news should convince them that there is someone above them in technology.The reason for saying this is that if I don't say them, I don't have any difficulty in explaining the matter. Therefore, it is necessary to know the correct information first. The last thing is that the world situation will turn very bad. It is certain that Turkey, Iran, etc. Taking a stand for Hamas and attacking from Jordan and this three-pronged attack Israel will not be able to deal with it will need help and whenever help comes the war will be on a larger scale so the world I think it reaches the maximum bad position.

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Turkey's Erdogan said all territories taken from Palestine (West Bank, Eastern Jerusalem) should be returned to them by Israel:

He added the formation of an independent Palestinian state, in line with the borders set out in 1967, with its territorial integrity intact, and with Jerusalem as its capital was now "a necessity that cannot be delayed."

According to the Turkish president, reinstating the borders to where they were in 1967 is a crucial step to peace in the region.

[Branko]

"Israel targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with the clear aim to cut off men, women, children from water, electricity, and heating with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror and we have to call it as such,"  EU's von der Leyen said.

[electronicash]

"Israel targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with the clear aim to cut off men, women, children from water, electricity, and heating with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror and we have to call it as such,"  EU's von der Leyen said.

that's why it's hard to sympathize Palestine with for whatever reason. they do have tons of reasons but with this act, Israel is not going to let this slide.

but the conflict already worsened since the neighboring countries who are the usual enemies of Israel like Lebanon are already going in to join this war.

[darkangel11]

I find it interesting that Russia, who itself is an invader murdering civilians and bombing cities, supports another country that is currently being oppressed. When we lay siege, that's fine, but when another country does the same, we're against it. Freedom for the oppressed!

We have to wait and see if the Zionist lobby infestation in United States is going to be able to push them into making this stupid mistake and the scale of the response so we can see if there is a possibility to say hello to $400-$500 per oil barrel...

Mentioning a Jewish lobby in the US is called antisemitism by Jews. This reads like a joke but isn't.
According to them they have no influence in politics and such and the fact that a large part of TV and the whole movie-making and entertainment industry in the US is owned by Jews has nothing to do with that.

"Israel targeted attacks on civilian infrastructure with the clear aim to cut off men, women, children from water, electricity, and heating with the winter coming, these are acts of pure terror and we have to call it as such,"  EU's von der Leyen said.

EU going against Israel and it's big brother USA? Not going to happen. When Israel took Jerusalem all the world did was condemn its actions.

[pooya87]

I find it interesting that Russia, who itself is an invader murdering civilians and bombing cities, supports another country that is currently being oppressed. When we lay siege, that's fine, but when another country does the same, we're against it. Freedom for the oppressed!

Russia is just trying to play the field, putting pressure on US proxy in the region to put pressure on US. This caricature shows how Russia is seeing the situation better than I can explain: https://www.talkimg.com/image/RZ5Vv

We have to wait and see if the Zionist lobby infestation in United States ~

Mentioning a Jewish lobby in the US is called antisemitism by Jews.

That's becaue majority of the people in the world do not know the difference between Semites, Jews and Zionists. If I wanted to put it in one sentence while simplifying it: the relationship between Semites > Jews > Zionists is like the relationship between Middle Easterners > Muslims > ISIS.

The biggest crimes the Zionist fraction has committed is actually against Semites and Jews. This is why many Jews are against Israel and burn its flag. Examples from London and New York.

Thanks for raising this matter BTW.

[coolcoinz]

I find it interesting that Russia, who itself is an invader murdering civilians and bombing cities, supports another country that is currently being oppressed. When we lay siege, that's fine, but when another country does the same, we're against it. Freedom for the oppressed!

Russia is just trying to play the field, putting pressure on US proxy in the region to put pressure on US. This caricature shows how Russia is seeing the situation better than I can explain: https://www.talkimg.com/image/RZ5Vv

Russia portrays Ukrainians as Neo-Nazi and itself as the liberator who murdered German Nazis in WWII, who tried to exterminate Jews.
Now Russians murder their brethren Ukrainians, who were part of the same Anti-Nazi Soviet force 35 years ago, because according to Russia, they're also Nazis. Moreover Russia supports Palestine against the same Jews it was fighting to save. Politics can really be confusing.

Also, why the fuck is Jewish army called Israeli Defense Force if all they do is attack neighboring territories and expand the borders?

[serveria.com]

I find it interesting that Russia, who itself is an invader murdering civilians and bombing cities, supports another country that is currently being oppressed. When we lay siege, that's fine, but when another country does the same, we're against it. Freedom for the oppressed!

Russia is just trying to play the field, putting pressure on US proxy in the region to put pressure on US. This caricature shows how Russia is seeing the situation better than I can explain: https://www.talkimg.com/image/RZ5Vv

We have to wait and see if the Zionist lobby infestation in United States ~

Mentioning a Jewish lobby in the US is called antisemitism by Jews.

That's becaue majority of the people in the world do not know the difference between Semites, Jews and Zionists. If I wanted to put it in one sentence while simplifying it: the relationship between Semites > Jews > Zionists is like the relationship between Middle Easterners > Muslims > ISIS.

The biggest crimes the Zionist fraction has committed is actually against Semites and Jews. This is why many Jews are against Israel and burn its flag. Examples from London and New York.

Thanks for raising this matter BTW.

Even funnier fact - Zelensky himself is a jew. 

Regarding EU and von der Leyen: they were forced to say that as both China and Russia released official statements urging to stop the bloodbath. So what else EU as a good Washington's lap dog could say?   

Meanwhile, US weapons provided as a military support to Ukraine ended up in hands of Hamas fighters: https://sputniknews.in/20231009/from-ukraine--afghanistan-to-middle-east-how-us-arms-ended-up-in-hamas-hands-4693015.html

[pooya87]

Even funnier fact - Zelensky himself is a jew. 

Technically and officially he is a Zionist.

In other news the Zionist terrorists cut off Gaza strip's water and electricity before they started carpet bombing civilians. Meanwhile the Lebanon #resistance seems to have entered this war from the Northern front and has already attacked a handful of Zionist positions in northmost parts of occupied Palestine.

On the other hand the only involvement US has had so far in this conflict was a C-17 sent to the terrorist organization with arms and the USS Liberty, I mean USS Ford just "hanging around"...

As I was typing the most interesting thing popped up on my screen. Yemenis #resistance just threatened United States that if they enter this conflict they will attack all Israeli and US positions. You know what the significance of it is? Yemen is the poorest Arab country that has been under a full scale invasion by the US-Arab coalition for the past 9 years and it is located at a 2000 km distance!!! 'nough said

So let me paint a little picture about your title even though everything is changing real fast and predictions at times like this is tough:
If US regime decides not to heed the threat and goes rogue, the entire Middle East will turn into a hellhole for all US assets and anybody who stands near them. As the former United States Marine Corps intelligence officer captain Ritter once said "[US military] is going to be dominated in a way they've never been dominated before".
That also means oil and gas prices to the moon.
That means Suez canal shuts down.
That means Europe's main trade route is shut down for at least a year
That means all import/exports will have to go around the entire African continent, face attacks from #resistance (the African branch) and face the worse sea conditions all of which would skyrocket price of everything across EU...

[rhomelmabini]

The US seems to take the Israeli side of the conflict, whereas Russia seems to support Hamas.

This particular update is not true, be sure of what you are saying not to mislead people.

Exactly, this OP just want to stir up things with no actual proof or basis, there's nothing like that (as of now?). Well, some are arguing it could be Iran that supports these militants but Iran deny the allegations.