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October 08, 2023, 08:22:03 PM
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As the society grows and the need to control the population of people becomes an important topic of discussion, what was looked at by the majority of the society as taboo has gradually turned to a normal occurrence.

Countries now do so many things to control the number of children a couple is allowed to have and the rate of abortion is increasing by the day.

Although some society and religion strictly kicks against it and victims are punishable by the laws of some societies, that hasn't stopped people from taking part in it

While Some don't even see it as anything bad, some feel undergoing abortion is same as taking a life and the culprit should be subject to punishment.

With so many thought process regarding this topic, whats your take on abortion?

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October 08, 2023, 10:51:30 PM
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People who is carrying the child inside their body can make a decision about that. And i haven't heard any case it would be easy decision for them. Abortion is done in very early stages anyway. Fetus is not aware of anything and haven't experienced anything.

And the irony is just too much when i see people who are so pro life when it comes to unborn, but seem to despice baby's life after it has is born. Then it's suddenly baby's fault that it was born to conditions that it couldn't handle and ended up in jail later on. Pro-life people aren't so pro life when it comes death sentence, war, free health care, or decent living conditions for poor people.

Then they seem to be ok by letting people die.




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October 09, 2023, 04:03:59 PM
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Well the discuss about abortion is really taking a center stage especially with the freedom enshrined in almost all countries constitution.

Morality was taking a center stage, that it bad to take a life and in some countries, it is a crime to abort but such countries also go to war and bomb even hospitals where the sick and helpless is recuperating. It is really a wide topic and I will just say it is a choice.

Some people have purpose to avert a new life to be added to the family, whether health wise or not, whether logical or not is left for couples.

About reducing the number of population like we have some Asian countries having that as policy, I think with the reality of economic hardship, homes in Africa and new couples are already having the mind not to procreate more than what they can take care of.

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October 09, 2023, 04:18:41 PM
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Now, listen to me, this is the topic that I have seriously discussed many times in real life.
According to religions, abortion is a sin but life is farm from paradise.

1. If woman was raped and got pragnanted that way, it's definitely up to mother whether she wants to give a birth of do an abortion, no one can blame her because she was impregnated forcefully, without her will.
2. If Doctor tells couples that their child will have birth defect, then it's up to couple to decide whether they want to dedicate their life to that kid or do an abortion. Personally, I think that no one can blame mother for abortion in this case because child with birth defect usually makes life pure hell for parents and child also suffers from defect, some of them include pain, disabilities and etc.
3. If mother got pregnant accidently via one night stand and she doesn't want baby, then abortion is probably okay, probably, because child will suffer from growing up without loving parents and most likely she will be abused by a mother or stepfather. But this part is very debatable and I don't have fixed opinion about that. There are cases when mother doesn't want baby but grandparents take it as their responsibility to grow them, so, it's very debatable.


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October 09, 2023, 05:22:06 PM
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3. If mother got pregnant accidently via one night stand and she doesn't want baby, then abortion is probably okay, probably, because child will suffer from growing up without loving parents and most likely she will be abused by a mother or stepfather. But this part is very debatable and I don't have fixed opinion about that. There are cases when mother doesn't want baby but grandparents take it as their responsibility to grow them, so, it's very debatable.


Yeah amidst all the valid points and very brilliant indeed, this happens to be debatable just like you also agreed on that. For me if couple mistakenly get pregnant when they are not planning it or one party tricked the other to get it or it is just honest accident, I don't believe that they will transfer hate or agression to the baby so long the baby is not physically challenged what so ever. I have seen couples who end up loving their "mistaken" child more than the rest. Like I don't know about couple that will hate a child that is physically okay and mentally sound just because the child is "mistakenly " conceived or couldn't eventually aborted when they tried to remove it.

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As the society grows and the need to control the population of people becomes an important topic of discussion, what was looked at by the majority of the society as taboo has gradually turned to a normal occurrence.
Overpopulation is a problem in developing nations but developed nations are battling underpopulation.

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Countries now do so many things to control the number of children a couple is allowed to have and the rate of abortion is increasing by the day.
Many nations that came up with policies to reduce their population are regretting their actions. Majority of the makeup of the population is aging and most youths are not interested in raising children. This has led to labor shortages which has affected many sectors negatively. I don't know any developed country that encourages abortion to reduce population in recent times.

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Although some society and religion strictly kicks against it and victims are punishable by the laws of some societies, that hasn't stopped people from taking part in it

While Some don't even see it as anything bad, some feel undergoing abortion is same as taking a life and the culprit should be subject to punishment.

With so many thought process regarding this topic, whats your take on abortion?

Abortion can be justified if the health of the mother or baby is at stake. In cases of rape and other moral issues,  abortion can also be recommended. But anyone that is not ready to have a baby knows what to do. Use protection or take action immediately after sex. Regardless of how we see it,  abortion is causing more harm to our society than the problem we think it solves.

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October 09, 2023, 10:47:50 PM
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For me, if abortion is only made for the sake of having fun without any particular reason like saving the mother from possible death if she still carries the baby inside her womb, then this is not right because babies are human beings and they have their own life and as if you kill them when you wanted to extract them without any valid reason. That's why prevention is better than cure and people should not just freely impregnate women if they don't have the right to do so and they don't have any means to becoming a parent.

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October 10, 2023, 10:37:22 AM
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I think it should be the choice of the Mother, the person carrying the child. I don’t like abortion but there are situations where it is justifiable. There should be a limit on the gestation age of the unborn child though. You should not be able to abort a child that is over 20 weeks gestation. I think a child is a viable birth at 24 weeks so anything over 20 weeks is inhumane. 

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October 10, 2023, 02:52:25 PM
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While Some don't even see it as anything bad, some feel undergoing abortion is same as taking a life and the culprit should be subject to punishment.

With so many thought process regarding this topic, whats your take on abortion?

It is not right and inhuman, it doesn’t make sense to have your child aborted because this child is helpless and don’t have a say of their own if they want to come into the world or not. A situation where abortion is somewhat deliberated is when a woman is raped and she conceived. In this situation, I don’t still think it is the best thing to do but if the woman insists and wants to get rid of it with her life at risk, then no one can stop that from happening. Abortion is same as committing suicide, anyone caught doing that knowingly should be arrested and prosecuted and jailed.

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October 10, 2023, 03:04:57 PM
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Why should someone abort for God sake. She should check the disadvantages that comes after abortion. And it's a sin because the person has killed a soul, after abortion there are complications that occur which will be detrimental to the persons health like haemorrhage ( excessive loss of blood) and you know what happen when there is too much loss of blood, it will lead to lack of circulation of sufficient oxygen because what assist in oxygen ( haemoglobin) transportation is lost through haemorrhage. Lack of oxygen in the body lead to many cases such as organ (heart, lungs and others) damage and eventually may lead to death. Individual should not or never choose abortion as an option, it's hazardous.
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October 10, 2023, 03:58:34 PM
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As the society grows and the need to control the population of people becomes an important topic of discussion, what was looked at by the majority of the society as taboo has gradually turned to a normal occurrence.

Countries now do so many things to control the number of children a couple is allowed to have and the rate of abortion is increasing by the day.

Although some society and religion strictly kicks against it and victims are punishable by the laws of some societies, that hasn't stopped people from taking part in it

While Some don't even see it as anything bad, some feel undergoing abortion is same as taking a life and the culprit should be subject to punishment.

With so many thought process regarding this topic, whats your take on abortion?

Pregnancy is a private medical condition. Only the person who has this condition should be deciding how to handle it.

Limiting access to abortion is criminal IMHO.

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October 10, 2023, 04:12:51 PM
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Now, listen to me, this is the topic that I have seriously discussed many times in real life.
According to religions, abortion is a sin but life is farm from paradise.

1. If woman was raped and got pragnanted that way, it's definitely up to mother whether she wants to give a birth of do an abortion, no one can blame her because she was impregnated forcefully, without her will.
2. If Doctor tells couples that their child will have birth defect, then it's up to couple to decide whether they want to dedicate their life to that kid or do an abortion. Personally, I think that no one can blame mother for abortion in this case because child with birth defect usually makes life pure hell for parents and child also suffers from defect, some of them include pain, disabilities and etc.
3. If mother got pregnant accidently via one night stand and she doesn't want baby, then abortion is probably okay, probably, because child will suffer from growing up without loving parents and most likely she will be abused by a mother or stepfather. But this part is very debatable and I don't have fixed opinion about that. There are cases when mother doesn't want baby but grandparents take it as their responsibility to grow them, so, it's very debatable.



You just said my mind. Why bring a child into the world to suffer  when you know you are not capable financially,  morally and otherwise to raise a child? In as much as we know that most people abort their babies due to some selfish reasons,  abortion cannot be wrong in all cases. Sometimes it is necessary to abort when the life of the mother is at stake.

In some countries where abortion is illegal, people tend to drink all form of concoctions or visit quacks who know little or nothing about the abortion process. This can result in complications for the woman or even death. Most times, if the foetus is not terminated successfully,  it can can lead to some defects in the baby if the child is finally born.

In my view,  abortion should be legalised for special cases like you listed above. You don't force a rape victim to keep a child simply because abortion is a sin. Having a child should be a matter of personal decision. And consenting adults should as much as possible protect themselves from unwanted pregnancy. This will save you the stress of going through the abortion process.

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October 10, 2023, 06:40:44 PM
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There are always going to be some extenuating circumstances. These might include rape cases, and cases where the mother's life is in danger. But in general...

If there was sex outside of marriage, and if there is going to be an abortion, don't wait for the abortion. Rather, execute the mother and father for having sex outside of marriage.

The major alternative to this would be that the mother and father get married and raise the child right. Other alternatives might be:
1. That there is a man willing to marry the woman, and raise the child in the absence of the father;
2. That the parents of the woman (or any other responsible married couple) agree to support the woman.and the child until the child is 18;
3. Other points would be similar to these.

But if there is going to be an abortion, take the mother's and father's lives right along with the baby/fetus/embryo... especially in the case of sex outside of marriage.

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October 11, 2023, 12:08:57 AM
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For me, if abortion is only made for the sake of having fun without any particular reason like saving the mother from possible death if she still carries the baby inside her womb, then this is not right because babies are human beings and they have their own life and as if you kill them when you wanted to extract them without any valid reason. That's why prevention is better than cure and people should not just freely impregnate women if they don't have the right to do so and they don't have any means to becoming a parent.

Apart from this point that you have made, what about the instance where it has been discovered that the child will be deformed and instead of allowing it to be born and cause the baby to suffer because of the deformity or bring stress for the parents in the course of taking care of the baby such abortion was suggested, what will be your opinion in that kind of situation.

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With so many thought process regarding this topic, whats your take on abortion?
I am always very careful about discussing this topic, so I do not go endorse something that is not scriptural. If you know that you are not ready for a child, abstain from sexual intercourse if you have not yet started having sex, but if you have, then always try to play it safe with your partner. You both should have a discussion about your plans so you can have an understanding that pregnancy at that stage can ruin the plans that you both have for yourself. If you are a lady having unprotected sex with a person that you know you cannot allow be the father of your child, or will not be ready to father a child, you should stop being sexually involved with them unprotected. And as a female if you know you are not ready to be a mother and you understand that it can ruin your plans for your future, do not let yourself get pregnant, so that the though of abortion does not come up.

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3. If mother got pregnant accidently via one night stand and she doesn't want baby, then abortion is probably okay, probably, because child will suffer from growing up without loving parents and most likely she will be abused by a mother or stepfather. But this part is very debatable and I don't have fixed opinion about that. There are cases when mother doesn't want baby but grandparents take it as their responsibility to grow them, so, it's very debatable.


Yeah amidst all the valid points and very brilliant indeed, this happens to be debatable just like you also agreed on that. For me if couple mistakenly get pregnant when they are not planning it or one party tricked the other to get it or it is just honest accident, I don't believe that they will transfer hate or agression to the baby so long the baby is not physically challenged what so ever. I have seen couples who end up loving their "mistaken" child more than the rest. Like I don't know about couple that will hate a child that is physically okay and mentally sound just because the child is "mistakenly " conceived or couldn't eventually aborted when they tried to remove it.
To some extent we should start looking at abortion with the same eye we look at family planning for couples,  this is because a lot of time married couple visit the hospital to get family planning don't to help to moderate they child bearing process,  so same should also goes to abortion,  because if the government can regulate and limits abortion to only legally married couple and given time stage for the abortion to be approved this will help in population regulations.

But then morally and religiously it may be seen as sin before God to take another ones life but then we have some circumstances and limit,  let say when a couple discovered that the woman is just 1 week in,  that stage it still blood and not human although the heartbeat will be present,  but at that stage if the government approve such case,  it still within the acceptable for limits.
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let say when a couple discovered that the woman is just 1 week in,  that stage it still blood and not human although the heartbeat will be present,  but at that stage if the government approve such case,  it still within the acceptable for limits.
Have you heard the heartbeat after a week? I bet after a week the sperms reach the shores of safety, they are not in the mood to get working, besides they have a battle to win.

After a month it starts showing because embryo is attached by then, though I'm not a doctor, it's just that I know that the heart starts beating after 5-6 weeks. Maybe mice start beating after a week but not humans.

Another thing is, God says if you are afraid of poverty, don't be, for that I am the one providing for the child, you just have to believe that.  But nowadays most of the abortion cases are either bastards or it happens out of fear that they can't afford to raise a child.

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I believe that abortion before the 15th week of pregnancy should be a girl’s choice, since it has a very low probability of harming the girl. After week 15, I would give the choice to the doctor.
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I believe that abortion before the 15th week of pregnancy should be a girl’s choice, since it has a very low probability of harming the girl. After week 15, I would give the choice to the doctor.

This is not really the question of who should perform it, whether the doctor or the person or couple but the contention is whether it is good or not to do it, the pros and cons of abortion. Then the views to it. Well it is such a completed issue, back in the days it was not really considered by some homes but with different challenges and needs, the discuss and views about it is shifting.

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