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October 09, 2023, 09:15:54 AM |
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bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new. most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters. most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.
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October 09, 2023, 09:29:39 AM |
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Sadly the moderator will not remove such thread because it's related to Bitcoin and as long as it's not using AI/plagiarism, even it's a shitpost the thread is still there.
Exclude me from members who give merit for such thread because I never did that, merit is subjective too, you can't really expect they will stop give merit. Similar like members who replied and think those story are real, you can't force then to stop.
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October 09, 2023, 09:30:48 AM |
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bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new. most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
On each post, you will see report to a moderator, click on it and report it. If your report is good, moderator will take the thread down if a topic is a spam. But if moderator do not take down the post, leave it be becuase this forum is a bitcoin forum and we can discuss anything about bitcoin. If I invested in bitcoin and it gave me 5x return and I used it to build house, I can be happy to bring it to this forum. most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.
Signature posters are better than bounty hunters. Report the posts that you see unworthy.
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October 09, 2023, 09:33:51 AM |
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I agree, and it is nothing new that is not already known and has not been discussed. Some members even set that board to ignore, some decided to try with as many reports as possible, but that board is still littered with a large number of low value topics. Fortunately, there is a "report to moderator" option, and anyone can use it to report any topic or post that they think does not meet the criteria - and it is obvious that the vast majority have never read the sticky topic that has been at the top of that board since 2016. Low quality topics do not belong here.
~snip~ If I invested in bitcoin and it gave me 5x return and I used it to build house, I can be happy to bring it to this forum.
You are obviously one of those who didn't read what low quality topic means - because what would happen if everyone who profited from Bitcoin or bought something for Bitcoin opened a new topic in the Bitcoin discussion?
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October 09, 2023, 09:50:17 AM |
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At least am not alone on this, I have noticed this same thing repeat itself so many times.. and most members take this thread so serious just to complete there signature post and then making some people feel like they have not been trying...
There are some thread that I see getting merited but deep down it's not educating, then I wondered to myself what really warranted the meriting... Bitcoin discussion is my favorite board or let me say most familiar board but it pissed me off when I see this people with fake life stories of Bitcoin life. It's not worth it and I don't even border myself to comment on any thing.
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October 09, 2023, 10:02:13 AM |
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I totally get what you're saying, mate. In a forum with such a diverse membership, it's common to come across questions that might seem basic to some but are actually sincere inquiries. Everyone's learning at their own pace, and sometimes people are looking for a bit of spoon-feeding to grasp certain concepts.
Now, when it comes to merits and signature campaigns, it seems like the members, especially those who can award merits, know where to invest them wisely. They're not just tossing merits around for low-value topics, and the same goes for their replies. As for the moderators, their approach might rely largely on reports from members. That way, they can keep things in check and ensure the forum maintains its quality.
So if you want to help cleaning the forum, be active in reporting spam post.
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October 09, 2023, 10:04:55 AM |
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I feel the moderators also noticed these things but are trying as much as they can to make the forum as democratic as possible. Democratic in the sense that freedom of expression is totally allowed because if they become too rigid, many people will become too scared to post in the forum. If you notice, most of those posts are coming from new members, if the moderators do not apply wisdom in handle the situation, it can also affect the forum in the aspect of continuity and others.
Nevertheless, it is still expected we aspire to encourage as much quality posts as we can so that time in this forum will be worth it. We can use the report to moderators tab more if we feel certain posts or comments do not meet the forum standard...if many people report a particular post, it becomes easier for the mods to act knowing that deleting the post is in the interest of a good number of the forum users.
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October 09, 2023, 10:06:57 AM |
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<snip> which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
Then don't waste your time on those threads. If those threads do not get enough traction the will slip from the top page of the board very quickly. But we always have users who reply to them, maybe cause quality is subjective and those threads are not spam to them, or any way to fulfil their post requirements counts. If you feel it's spam, report it. most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, I will not say many members award then merits. To my observation threads like that do not get merited. show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.
You can it control what other users reply to. You can ignore those discussions so you don't have to read them.
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October 09, 2023, 10:09:18 AM |
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I respect your all suggestions and they are helpful, BUT it's frustrating to see them many times.
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OP, welcome to bitcointalk where 9 out of 10 members are here just to take a dump on the forum and drop as many shitposts in a week as their campaign or bounty will pay for. This has been going on for years and nothing has changed much, not even after the introduction of the merit system. It almost seems like earning merits isn't a priority anymore or those dumbass shitposters have found a way to get them on the sly. You'll notice that a lot of bullshit threads get started, and I've always thought that's done by the OP so that his alts, friends, family, and/or coworkers can have a new place to post some generic shit that's been written a thousand times before. And yep, Bitcoin Discussion is infested with members like that and it's unfortunate that the section that ought to be full of thoughtful discussion is filled with moronic topics like the ones you mentioned. Unless or until sig campaigns go away, it's going to stay like this. In a forum with such a diverse membership, it's common to come across questions that might seem basic to some but are actually sincere inquiries. Everyone's learning at their own pace, and sometimes people are looking for a bit of spoon-feeding to grasp certain concepts.
That's not true in Bitcoin Discussion, though. People who really want to learn ought to be reading more and posting far less, and they should be frequenting Beginners & Help. Most of the threads in Bitcoin Discussion are pure crap, as are the posts in them. Members aren't there to learn, even if it looks like they are. If they've got their signature space rented out, it's a safe assumption that what looks like an innocent topic for a thread is just some rehashed discussion that's been had many times over the years, usually in the form of "X vs. Y?" or a title that's in the form of a question that any illiterate shitposter can write an incoherent, low-value, and short answer to.
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October 09, 2023, 10:18:38 AM |
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Unless or until sig campaigns go away, it's going to stay like this.
When signature are gone then I am sure that forum's traffic will fall down by 80%. But signatures are also good for people who contribute here who have more knowledge about bitcoin then their money invested in bitcoin.
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October 09, 2023, 10:20:43 AM |
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I respect your all suggestions and they are helpful, BUT it's frustrating to see them many times. I guess it's all about getting used to the dynamics of a large forum. And you're here to help and offer suggestions because you genuinely care about the forum's well-being. Given the sheer number of members and posts, it's a real challenge for moderators to handle everything in real-time. Some posts might slip through the cracks if they're not reported. In a community that values freedom within the rules, posts typically stick around as long as they don't violate any rules. For threads that become repetitive or no longer provide value, moderators often step in and lock them down. In the end, it's all about maintaining a healthy and engaging environment for everyone.
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October 09, 2023, 10:23:02 AM |
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I respect your all suggestions and they are helpful, BUT it's frustrating to see them many times.
If you notice that a certain user keeps coming up with such topics then just add them to your ignore list hat way you won’t get it from them but it won’t solve totally as it’s certain that others might still create similar threads. Or if you come across the thread early before it gets filled with replies just click on “report to moderator” as the post above mine stated, and it might get deleted if moderator finds it useless. And just so you know, even if you make a reply with a font size of 50pt warning other users not to reply to those made up stories threads they’ll still ignore it and continue with their congratulatory messages which sometimes makes you feel as if you have no idea about the warning you posted.
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October 09, 2023, 10:32:09 AM |
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When signature are gone then I am sure that forum's traffic will fall down by 80%. But signatures are also good for people who contribute here who have more knowledge about bitcoin then their money invested in bitcoin.
Oh, if for some reason sig campaigns ceased to exist traffic would fall by more than 80%. I'd bet good money on that--but so far there's been no indication that's in the works. And you don't have to justify them to me, because I do see the benefits of them and I know people in poor countries can make excellent money by participating in them. The problem is that a lot of those participants don't give a shit about the forum and don't care about what they're writing and just want the money. What was that forum that got started by Yobit a while back? Cryptotalk? Everyone on it was being paid to post, and that place turned into plagiarism central. So many people were copying posts made here and pasting them into any relevant thread there. The whole thing was so ridiculous that I'm surprised it lasted more than a week. Crypto is full of dishonest/desperate people who'll do anything to get money, and when you present them with a pretty easy writing gig....well, you either get Cryptotalk or a section like Bitcoin Discussion where the mods do the best they can.
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October 09, 2023, 10:49:56 AM |
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When signature are gone then I am sure that forum's traffic will fall down by 80%. But signatures are also good for people who contribute here who have more knowledge about bitcoin then their money invested in bitcoin.
Oh, if for some reason sig campaigns ceased to exist traffic would fall by more than 80%. I'd bet good money on that--but so far there's been no indication that's in the works. And you don't have to justify them to me, because I do see the benefits of them and I know people in poor countries can make excellent money by participating in them. The problem is that a lot of those participants don't give a shit about the forum and don't care about what they're writing and just want the money. What was that forum that got started by Yobit a while back? Cryptotalk? Everyone on it was being paid to post, and that place turned into plagiarism central. So many people were copying posts made here and pasting them into any relevant thread there. The whole thing was so ridiculous that I'm surprised it lasted more than a week. Crypto is full of dishonest/desperate people who'll do anything to get money, and when you present them with a pretty easy writing gig....well, you either get Cryptotalk or a section like Bitcoin Discussion where the mods do the best they can. It's undeniable that signature campaigns have greatly assisted members who live in countries with less robust economies, although they may not necessarily be considered poor - that would be a bit harsh in my opinion. Anyway, I've witnessed the era of Yobit and later CryptoTalk. It was the community that played a pivotal role in their efforts to halt these campaigns, and if I remember correctly, Theymos even decided to ban some of them. As for these spammers you mentioned, who just post low-quality content, they wouldn't be able to persist if there were effective campaign managers in place. I believe most of these spammers come from participants in the bounty sections. To revisit my earlier point, what we really need are capable campaign managers. From what I've observed, campaign managers these days have improved because many of them value the forum more than just a paycheck, so they're cautious about admitting suspected spammers. However, they should also be reminded that continuous monitoring is essential. Even if a poster is initially of good quality, there's no guarantee they'll maintain that standard over time.
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Such matters cannot be stopped in an open global forum, where everyone can post, even if these topics are of low quality as long as they do not violate forum policy they will not be stopped because forum policy is based on freedom of expression and opinion.
The final decision is made by the moderators. If they consider it to be spam, they will delete it.
For signature campaigns that are mutually beneficial to the participating members and companies, these campaigns are monitored by the advertising company's team and campaign managers and will most likely remove members who post low-quality posts or spam.
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LoyceV
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most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters. Says the guy who created 6 topics in 2 hours.
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raybucks (OP)
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October 09, 2023, 11:38:25 AM |
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most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters. Says the guy who created 6 topics in 2 hours. today I am on holiday, and got a thought of bitcointalk after a long time. And i already was posting like this from start.
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October 09, 2023, 12:19:34 PM |
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bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new. most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters. most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.
Do you report them? If yes, then don't moderators take an action? I guess, yes, they take. So, what's your point? I think you opened this thread because you wanted to act like cool guy and probably noticed that threads like this are sometimes awarded, so, why not create a new one? C'mon, let's be frank, you don't really care about that, do you? is there any crypto news sites which keep us up to date , site maybe small or big
Cointelegraph is good and provide all news first then other site copy them no? but i don't like interface
I think bitcoin.com is best
Probably you should stop getting information from bitcoin.com. Just a friendly advice.
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October 09, 2023, 12:52:40 PM |
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bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new. most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters. If a post is not quality or belonging to the bitcoin discussion board, the moderators deleted such once they noticed, you can also help in reporting such post to the moderators to fasten the process, i hope you know some threads are locked or moved to off topic when found to be spamming or to have been discussed already. most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.
You started by saying how newbies get merits and now diverted to doing that for a signature campaign, which signature campaign can a newbie account get the while still a newbie or junior member rank, maybe you can show a good example if you have any good example.
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