bitcoin discussion board have lot of unecessary questions

[goxcraft]

Who are you to judge what is useful and what is useless? I am not saying you are wrong. Bitcointalk do have spams, shit posters. And to solve those problem theymos assigned many mods. They are constantly checking the forum for spams and reporting them. After all that, you can't expect the forum to be 100% spam free. We can see, daily hundreds of new threads are being made, thousands of comment and reply. We don't have that much of man power to check all threads, posts, reply one by one. Mods are only humans. If you really think a post as useless, then just ignore it. Moreover, if you think a user as shitposter, you can always add him to your ignore list. That way you won't see his/her post in the future. Lastly report spams with the button you see below every post. Hope you understood that mate.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=yourUID;sa=ignprefs

Here is the link by which you can add a user to your ignore list.

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[Don Pedro Dinero]

On that board there are many threads that are created with a fabricated story like: 'I convinced x to buy bitcoin...'. 'I bought bitcoin years ago and it has changed my life...' 90% or more of which are fake. Inventions to get credit for what most replies don't question and just keep accumulating congratulatory responses to the OP. I have already left a couple of neutral tags in a couple of profiles because it was obvious with a minimum of analysis and looking at the OP's post history that they were invented.

However, it is not all bad. I do find interesting threads to comment on there, I don't share the very negative opinion expressed by some other forum members on this thread.

[Bureau]

If you find any posts that you think are not worthy to be on that board, then report them to the mods. I have seen the same behavior on the Beginners and Help board where repetitive topics are created for getting merits. I generally ignore topics that look like a rewrite of an old topic on the Bitcoin discussion board because some newbies might want to look into them. In most scenarios when I report a stupid post the moderators do not remove it. I feel the Bitcoin discussion board is where most spamming happens other than the Gambling board.

[EFS]

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

[philipma1957]

bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new.
most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.

I used to think this way for years. But if you look at how much bitcointalk.org creates jobs via signatures you may realize that it is a way to expand BTC and the like all over the world.

A poor person in a poor country can actually earn a living doing this.

A guy like me not poor in a wealthy country can fund donations to worthy forum members.

At the moment I donate

0.001 btc a month to talkimg  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450546.0

this allows all forum members to be able to post images for free.

I just started donating to Tyke who is creating a good book about bitcointalk

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469588.msg62961758#msg62961758

[Synchronice]

Who are you to judge what is useful and what is useless?

What's wrong with judging things? It's necessary to be critical and judge, this is what motivates people and what changes the world, what improves our lives.

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

It's not like that, he actually has the point and is not totally wrong. The fact is, he is a part of people that he criticizes. And I genuinely have doubts that these kind of threads are created to get some easy merits. I have noticed that threads like this are sometimes awarded and newbies understand that.

@philipma1957
Not only that but sig campaigns make this community active. It's true that some spam for money but I think that's managers duty to take care of and spend budget wisely. All in all, campaigns do more good than bad.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I used to think this way for years. But if you look at how much bitcointalk.org creates jobs via signatures you may realize that it is a way to expand BTC and the like all over the world.

Very good, I hadn't thought of it that way.

A poor person in a poor country can actually earn a living doing this.

A guy like me not poor in a wealthy country can fund donations to worthy forum members.

At the moment I donate

0.001 btc a month to talkimg  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5450546.0

this allows all forum members to be able to post images for free.

I just started donating to Tyke who is creating a good book about bitcointalk

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469588.msg62961758#msg62961758

I have also been making donations, giving back to the community part of what I earn here. I have been listing them in a personal thread:

Personal register

You have given me an idea of who to donate to next, thank you. And not to go too off-topic, I would like to point out that Bitcoin Discussion is the second board where I have written the most in my post history, posts that have contributed to my earnings, so I think the board is not that bad after all, as I have said before. 

[philipma1957]

Oh I forgot I am running a give away difficulty guessing contest. I used to run it for years gave away like 10 btc

But that was when btc was $100 a coin.

I started it back up


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5431167.msg62867150#msg62867150


ran it for 1 difficulty jump and for the first time ever I picked the winner!

I gave the prize to joker_issue as he runs talkimg which is for all of bitcointalk


 01) -4.99 to - 4.50 - kano
02) -4.49 to - 4.00 - Biffa
03) -3.99 to - 3.50 - alh
04) -3.49 to - 3.00 - Baby Shoes
05) -2.99 to - 2.50 - Learn Bitcoin
06) -2.49 to - 2.00 - NeuroticFish
07) -1.99 to - 1.50 - SamReomo {note I have an error here} - AlcoHoDL was first
08 ) -1.49 to -1.00 - SamReomo moved you to nearest pick
09) -0.99 to  -0.50 - Warfare
10) -0.49 to  -0.00 - stompix
11) 0.01 to   0.50% put your name next to your pick. philipma1957
12) 0.51 to   1.00% - mikeywith
13) 1.01 to   1.50% - sirazimuth
14) 1.51 to   2.00%  - MagicByt3
15) 2.01 to   2.50% - Watche
16) 2.51 to   3.00% - joker_josue
17) 3.01 to   3.50% - vapourminer
18) 3.51 to   4.00% - Hueristic
19) 4.01 to   4.50% - jojo69
20) 4.51 to   5.00% - iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2
21) 5.01 to   5.50% - Gachapin
22) 5.51 to   6.00% - d_eddie
23) 6.01 to   6.50% - Greyhats
24) 6.51 to   7.00% - GazetaBitcoin
25) 7.01 to   7.50% - LFC_Bitcoin
26) 7.51 to   8.00% - DyingSoul
27) 8.01 to   8.50%
28) 8.51 to   9.00%
29) 9.01 to   9.50%
30) 9.51 to 10.00%



The contest takes time so I will run 1 every other diff jump.

So   0.001 joker_josue for talkimg
and 0.001 Tyke  for the bitcoin history book
and 0.001 bitcoin diff contest

0.003 per month all funded by my signature. Which uses posts in the bitcoin discussion board to earn.


Multiple thanks here to the op as he has allowed me to state a counter argument to his topic.
to theymos for keeping signature income alive and well
to Royce777 for the signature payments I get
and to joker_josue for talkimg
lastly to Tyke for his new book

peace out.

[Faisal2202]

bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new.
most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.

You have pointed out a good topic my dear friend, there is no doubt in that, there are many useless topics that have been created on the Bitcoin discussion but it's not wise to say that members enrolled in the signature campaign reply under them for post-count completion. Because you might not be aware of the fact that, many signature managers do keep track of the posting of the user. And check them if the sig joiners are doing their work nicely.

I mean if they are not making valuable posts then they will be removed from the campaigns, so I hope you do understand now that, not every poster is here to complete the post quota.

You will find many useful replies which might help you a lot, posted under those un-useful threads you are talking about. So in general, not all of that useless topics are what you have named them because they did contain a useful lesson for many newbies, like you, if you had not read them and not read the comments of the other users then you might not be wise as you are now and you might also be making such useless topics now but hey you are saved and definitely it's not totally because of such topics because you are intelligent by yourself too.

[Orpichukwu]

Unless or until sig campaigns go away, it's going to stay like this.

When signature are gone then I am sure that forum's traffic will fall down by 80%. But signatures are also good for people who contribute here who have more knowledge about bitcoin then their money invested in bitcoin.

There is indeed a possibility for such to happen, but this number is extremely high. There are a lot of members who will stop posting if the signature campaign is put on hold today, but 80% is really very high to mention, as that appears to be almost equal to all the forum members being inclusive.

There are a lot of members whom I have known in this forum, and they have a passion for posting here in this forum. The quoted member above is inclusive, and I believe even without being in a campaign, they will still keep the forum going and keep their contributions organic. There are also members who have a higher chance of getting paid a higher amount in this forum who are active on a daily basis and even post more than those in a campaign, but yet they have never worn a signature campaign, at least that I have seen.
 
Aside from the signature campaign, there are shillers who come in here and use any means necessary, such as making a post, to promote their scam project or what they have been paid to promote, so such people will always be active even if Simon is no longer here, as they are paid aside from the forum to spam.

[SamReomo]

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

I agree with your points the Bitcoin discussion is the right board for such questions and I also believe that such questions are helpful for many people as they discuss about Bitcoin related things at that board. I'm active in that board and I can say that most of the times we see useful posts at that board.

Well, I agree that Bitcoin discussion board is not entirely dedicated to increase someone's knowledge about Bitcoin but yeah most of the times it serves for that purpose as well. There are many good threads in that board and so many good and reputed members of the forum leave good replies in the threads that are posted in that board.

I guess you're right that everyone isn't expert and we'll have to accept that fact. There are many users who basically share their experiences and knowledge with others and want to see some good feedback or others opinions in the form of replies. That's the stress-free way of learning and I guess that most people are learning something from the replies that are posted in that board.

I believe that everyone has their own standards regarding a topic's quality, some people consider a topic high quality and helpful while others may consider it as generic and repeated. We can't change anyone opinion and that's why if someone is really not interested in a topic then the better option is to avoid such topics instead of calling those topics low quality.

[philipma1957]

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

I agree with your points the Bitcoin discussion is the right board for such questions and I also believe that such questions are helpful for many people as they discuss about Bitcoin related things at that board. I'm active in that board and I can say that most of the times we see useful posts at that board.

Well, I agree that Bitcoin discussion board is not entirely dedicated to increase someone's knowledge about Bitcoin but yeah most of the times it serves for that purpose as well. There are many good threads in that board and so many good and reputed members of the forum leave good replies in the threads that are posted in that board.

I guess you're right that everyone isn't expert and we'll have to accept that fact. There are many users who basically share their experiences and knowledge with others and want to see some good feedback or others opinions in the form of replies. That's the stress-free way of learning and I guess that most people are learning something from the replies that are posted in that board.

I believe that everyone has their own standards regarding a topic's quality, some people consider a topic high quality and helpful while others may consider it as generic and repeated. We can't change anyone opinion and that's why if someone is really not interested in a topic then the better option is to avoid such topics instead of calling those topics low quality.

Also there are a million pages or more on bitcointalk.

the discussion section has  more than 1000 pages. the first page of discussion has 37 topics alone

and it only has  Oct and Oct 9 on it.

If I look to wright an answer to a thread. I am not going to look at 120 topics and all the posts to them to see if my answer is repetitive.

Oh back to why I like discussion page the way it is.

I just added this website for my donation schedule

https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/#BTC,2w,fee

I gave him 0.001 btc.

So I now am able to give to 3 good people who can use the support that are all supporting btc. plus run a contest giveaway to attract more website traffic this is a win win for all of us.

[ZAINmalik75]

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

Exactly, I have seen many useful topics, questions, contests, and funny topics created by many users on the Bitcoin discussion board. Which were very useful and enjoyable for the time being. And I can not call them useless as the OP has called. But there is no doubt in the Op's words. That there are topics that are useless and don't deserve a spot on the BTC discussion.

But we can also not ignore the truth that, those useless topics, do contain useful information for many. For example, I have read the topic of BTC is life:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467940.0

When you read the post, it contains a simple message and should not be called as totally useless, and check the number of pages created on this topic. The number exceeds 5. Which is too much. And all of those pages must have 180+ posts from different members. Because 1 page contains 20 posts if I am not wrong.

The point is, that not every comment will be useless that's why we should not try to delete the topics based on the topic only instead we should check for the comments, and observe how useful they are. And there is nothing wrong in saying that many Sig poster try to make posts under such topics just to fill their quota but not every Sig poster do such things. You will know why I am saying this when you will come to read the rule of Sig Campaigns.

[Smartvirus]

most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.

I can agree with you that it's unnecessary to you but,to a few others, its highly necessary and by someeans to gain encouragement and show there efforts in Bitcoin as a whole. So, you just might get used to seeing a few more threads of that nature becuase,it ain't stopping soon.
What seems to be troubling is, most of those threads are just amde up  garbage that has zero quality to it. I mean, it's more believable when it's followed with a photo album but, still, it doesn't prove passion, just steps taken to a goal that could be far from the protected. Maybe to create a thread of that nature on the forum.

Guess what, its a polarized scheme and no longer milk anything anymore so, good luck to those having this idea and be well aware that,you ain't getting nothing than posts on these sort of posts no more.

[Lucius]

What do you expect people to talk about in Bitcoin Discussion? A question that is unnecessary for you may be important for others. Bitcoin Discussion board is not for increasing knowledge or learning something new. People share their experiences and knowledge here. Not everyone who writes here is an expert. Also, what makes a topic high quality? If you don't like the topic, don't reply, if you don't like the board, don't read it, it's that simple.

Does this mean that you do not agree with what the Global Moderator wrote in the sticky topic when he described what is actually a low quality topic? According to what you wrote, that board should not be moderated at all, which makes no sense to me personally, unless the forum goes in the direction that nothing will be considered worthy of being a report anymore.

However, considering that at least 90% of forum members are here only for signature campaigns, it would certainly suit them.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

You are right at the OP. I have also noticed that the people who make most of those posts are just newbies, and perhaps they are only seeking attention. If they receive some loads of criticism on such a thread, they will still be the ones to come up on the meta board to raise a topic like "some members are too harsh or whatever." I think I have come across a few topics where some low-ranking members were complaining of being criticized on the forum, and I know that most of the time the criticism they get is as a result of the low-quality posts they have put on some boards, perhaps not only the Bitcoin discussion board but also the economic board. Just like the first comment said, most of those topics will not get deleted as long as they are not Plagerised posts. One thing I know is that such a post doesn't even last up to a week on the top of that board; since it doesn't trigger any serious or meaningful discussion, it quickly dies at the bottom of the board.

[EluguHcman]

bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new.

I went back to read about from the help desk that gives the room where you can make the forum laugh, pull them to angry wall and educate the members of you can.
This also gave the room towards such of your autocratic expression.

However, the forum is programed to different boards with its related and assigned categorized topics to discuss about.
If threads and replies are not related to the board it is posted, then it is taken down (deleted).
I am also a victim where my posts and threads were taken down (deleted) due to its low quality and topics off point. If anyway you (OP) a member of this forum finds an such thread or topic replies on the board or forum entirely, you have all right to report to the moderator(s) to do the needful.
Moreso, I clearly understood your point of view. Never get distracted. ✌️

[Dave1]

bitcoin discussion board have lot of unnecessary questions which is mostly not helpful to increase knowledge or learn something new.
most of them start thread about "my first bitcoin purchase" i convinced my dad to invest in bitcoin, "bitcoin is life", etc. which is mostly a waste of time for good posters.
most users post low quality replies to get post count for signature campaign, and the other users start threads like these because many members award them merits, show my request is stop replying to them if it's not an important discussion.

Well you can report them if you want, if you feel that they are not in the appropriate Bitcoin discussion board.

However, with the influx of new users, there will be a lot of similar open threads asking the say question or what has bitcoin did to them. But I doubt that the moderator will do something about it unless you make a report.

[libert19]

It should be easy to ignore, no?

[Ziskinberg]

In a forum with such a diverse membership, it's common to come across questions that might seem basic to some but are actually sincere inquiries. Everyone's learning at their own pace, and sometimes people are looking for a bit of spoon-feeding to grasp certain concepts.

That's not true in Bitcoin Discussion, though.  People who really want to learn ought to be reading more and posting far less, and they should be frequenting Beginners & Help.  Most of the threads in Bitcoin Discussion are pure crap, as are the posts in them.  Members aren't there to learn, even if it looks like they are.  If they've got their signature space rented out, it's a safe assumption that what looks like an innocent topic for a thread is just some rehashed discussion that's been had many times over the years, usually in the form of "X vs. Y?" or a title that's in the form of a question that any illiterate shitposter can write an incoherent, low-value, and short answer to.

That's likely the current situation, but when we consider the true purpose of the forum, it should primarily be about learning and sharing. Spam has been a persistent issue, and it's not limited to just the Bitcoin discussion; it affects all sections of the forum. Thus, I believe we should relocate this discussion to a different topic. Nevertheless, I appreciate your insight and honesty. I'd like to ask, is there any possibility of making this forum cleaner, aligning with our desired standards? I'm confident that as long as signature campaigns continue, spam will remain an ongoing challenge.