Murat Scammed 62k Metropoly token

[Woodie]

Here is the transaction of payment to Murat:

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x9f13e8f313d1bf85527e1fb419fa7e459028c999fb8d6d8513d7ccea95aa5bb1

The tokens are still sitting in his wallet. I don't know why he didn't disburse them to bounty hunters

Seeing that the address doesn't have any eth to cover fees, I assume the BM is probably waiting for Metropoly team to send him/her some ethereum to cover fees of sending out tokens as this would mean BM incurring the extra cost if his to send now.
Btw am wondering why the team has equally only sent out 24.8% (62k) of the bounty allocation and not everything owed in one transaction ??

I will neutral tag him with a direction to this thread. That should get his attention, seeing as how he never responded here on forum on the issue.

Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal.

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[Lucius]

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Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal.

As if this is something new when it comes to bounty campaigns in which the owner of a project can at any time refer to the fact that the goals of the project were not achieved at all or were only partially achieved and therefore cannot pay those who promoted it as much as promised. Even if it doesn't go in that direction, some use the option to simply say that most campaign participants are bots or alt accounts that don't deserve to be paid.

No matter how we look at it, the fact is that in this game everyone takes risks, and the only question is who will someone point the finger at and declare him guilty after all. I would say that everyone bears part of the blame, regardless of whether they organize or participate in bounty campaigns.

[holydarkness]

Seeing that the address doesn't have any eth to cover fees, I assume the BM is probably waiting for Metropoly team to send him/her some ethereum to cover fees of sending out tokens as this would mean BM incurring the extra cost if his to send now.[...]

Umm... no? To be precise, BM is waiting for the price to raise. Although the decision is made with good intent to protect their participants, for this part of this situation, I personally think this is not Murat's decision to make, to sell at what price. On the other hand, sending the token at current price will borderline be... disheartening. I can confirm what Shishir99 said that 62.5k token is around $760 [see image below from uniswap], divided to ~330 participants, it'll be ~2.3 USD each participants.

[decodx]

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I will neutral tag him with a direction to this thread. That should get his attention, seeing as how he never responded here on forum on the issue.

Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal.

I'm not saying that he is wrong, but Murat should really think about laying out his side of things here.  Not saying anything doesn't do anyone any favors, and it usually just leads to more guessing and people making up stuff that aint true.  Even if Metropoly screwed up and didn't hold up their end of the bargain, no reason for the manager to not speak out about it publicly.

[robelneo]

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I will neutral tag him with a direction to this thread. That should get his attention, seeing as how he never responded here on forum on the issue.

Fair enough, but seeing the conversation from the other thread, the writing is on the wall that Metropoly project is being the dishonest party not honouring their part of the deal.

I'm not saying that he is wrong, but Murat should really think about laying out his side of things here.  Not saying anything doesn't do anyone any favors, and it usually just leads to more guessing and people making up stuff that aint true.  Even if Metropoly screwed up and didn't hold up their end of the bargain, no reason for the manager to not speak out about it publicly.

So far the speculation favors Murat, it's the metropoly's team who are not doing their part, but I agree since it is posted here he should drop a line not only on his telegram group, there's no need to defend himself because the real picture points to Metropoly, We just want him to confirm or deny what's posted here.
I'm sure Murat wants these things over, in only a few months, the campaign will be one year from the end.

[Shishir99]

I'm not saying that he is wrong, but Murat should really think about laying out his side of things here.  Not saying anything doesn't do anyone any favors, and it usually just leads to more guessing and people making up stuff that aint true.  Even if Metropoly screwed up and didn't hold up their end of the bargain, no reason for the manager to not speak out about it publicly.

My best guess is nobody sent him a message regarding this thread time. But I have checked the old thread where Holydarkness had a conversation with Murat regarding this matter. So, If he do not use notification bots for the mentions (as like me, I do not use it as well), he is unlikely to know about this situation. It will be better if someone reputed knock and let him know about this thread.

If sending these $760 worth of tokens is too expensive, I don't know what he should do then. I guess this is why he is holding it without taking any action like selling it or distributing it. Let's see if someone knocks him and if he replies here.

[Little Mouse]

My best guess is nobody sent him a message regarding this thread time.

I sent a PM yesterday through telegram and asked to respond in the thread in reputation. Don't know how I forgot to share the thread link lol. Just sent him the link.

[rat03gopoh]

I just saw someone get too let down by some damn project in this thread, then hide into one account to say his PoV because he still had a shred of hope that the payoff would be worth it someday.
I think it's time for you to forget about your activities as a bounty hunter rather than blaming people who have nothing to do with it. I don't remember when, but bounties have disappointed many of their hunters for a long time.

[Murat]

I answered a few times in the past.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

There is no other option because the team is not responding after raising a good chunk of money.

Thanks @Little Mouse

[ryzaadit]

IMO, seeing the other manager getting the same situation while the team project did not send any fee-tx + cutting the pools. If, I manager asked the same things by BH & called being a scammer while really caring about their reward only 2$ + have a problem sending the fee.
- I will make a decision to just make a pool voting on telegram channel and sell these token
- The reward being sent using internal-transaction example using (Binance ID) to them
- Move on from these problem, and live peace as bounty manager

Because the project-team being a j*rk by not send the reward fully & BH also doing the same things asking (when, when + called BM scammer). Feel bad for @Murat, not every BH understand the situation.

[Rikafip]

Btw am wondering why the team has equally only sent out 24.8% (62k) of the bounty allocation and not everything owed in one transaction ??

They actually sent 62.5k which is 25%. My guess is that they weren't satisfied with the results which I am not surprised at all. Planned bounty pool was $100k worth of tokens and when they saw that overall ~300 participants did some job, they decided to cut it. I thought that's pretty much standard thing in bounty campaigns, team adjusting pool after they see the results.

I answered a few times in the past.

What about money for fees, did you get that from the team?

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

Well now tokens are worthless, while at one point they were worth $10k, which when you divide by ~300 participants is not nothing.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

Is that your standard practice, to sell bounty tokens and then distribute ETH/whatever else? And do you really believe that tokens will be worth anything ever again, after they mananged to have no volume whatsoever? I am sory to say but you became a bagholder.

[Stalker22]

I  a few times in the past.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

There is no other option because the team is not responding after raising a good chunk of money.

Thanks @Little Mouse

Where did you answer? I did not see any updates in the bounty thread. Your last post:

campaign ended, calculation is ongoing.

What was the token value after the campaign ended? Why not distribute the tokens then?

Who do you plan to sell them to now that they hold no value? And is that really your decision to make?

And why did you lie in the bounty campaign that the funds were escrowed ($100k)?

[SmartGold01]

I  a few times in the past.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

There is no other option because the team is not responding after raising a good chunk of money.

Thanks @Little Mouse

Where did you answer? I did not see any updates in the bounty thread. Your last post:

campaign ended, calculation is ongoing.

What was the token value after the campaign ended? Why not distribute the tokens then?

Who do you plan to sell them to now that they hold no value? And is that really your decision to make?

And why did you lie in the bounty campaign that the funds were escrowed ($100k)?

Actually is not right to say bounty funds are escrowed while they aren't and this shows dishonesty to the bounty hunters and untrustworthy. This is a sign of fowl play in the campaign and as a bounty manager who has lots of followers and they rely on him due to his capacity to be able to get payment from join his campaign managed by him to get paid at the last but most times bounty managers in their own decisions always takes in-law into their hands without seeking to secure the interest of bounty hunters rather only on their side which they thinks about.
But from my little understanding any funds that are being escrowed most managers do post the address visible for everyone to look and scan through the address to see the funds as it's stored inside. And the holders holds it till the end of the bounty campaign to send it back to the manager and he distributes to the hunters.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I just saw someone get too let down by some damn project in this thread, then hide into one account to say his PoV because he still had a shred of hope that the payoff would be worth it someday.
I think it's time for you to forget about your activities as a bounty hunter rather than blaming people who have nothing to do with it. I don't remember when, but bounties have disappointed many of their hunters for a long time.

You are right, like myself, I was once a bounty hunter, and if there is one thing very common in bounty hunting on this forum, its disappointment. Every bounty hunter should really get used to being disappointed once in a while, or even regularly as the case may be.

From my personal experience, most non payments to hunters after their work is most of the time not the fault of the bounty manager. Like in this case  of the op, the project team only sent 60k tokens to Murat, instead of 250k, Murat cant just distribute the 60k whereas the team have promised they will send the balance, distribution cost fees and some times, bounty managers are the ones who bear that fees, so i personally believe that Murat does have a justified reason why he has not distributed the 60kk token in his possession, Op is probably just being impatient.

In the end, this is not the fault of the manager, but the fault of the project team who have not or did not send the entire payment for the bounty hunters at once.

[rat03gopoh]

In the end, this is not the fault of the manager, but the fault of the project team who have not or did not send the entire payment for the bounty hunters at once.

Sorry I meant, I wasn't referring to the manager's bounty. I saw OP's post history which always blamed DT members who didn't comply with his requests.
Not all DTs are interested in being involved in tagging this shit, especially someone who seems to be fighting for something hard but he has never been involved in anything with it.

[JollyGood]

Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:

[Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens] [ESCROWED]
[Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens]

I think Murat should explain how this situation be resolved now that the tokens have lost value and what has he learned from this experience? Lack of clarity will only add to more questions.

campaign ended, calculation is ongoing.

What was the token value after the campaign ended? Why not distribute the tokens then?

Who do you plan to sell them to now that they hold no value? And is that really your decision to make?

And why did you lie in the bounty campaign that the funds were escrowed ($100k)?

[Rikafip]

Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:

I was about to ask Stalker22 where he saw that part about bounty been escrowed as I couldn't find any traces of it in the bounty thread. Is it possible to see when exactly he changed the title? It is one thing if it was changed right after bounty campaign started and another if it was changed months later.

I think Murat should explain how this situation be resolved now that the tokens have lost value and what has he learned from this experience? Lack of clarity will only add to more questions.

He already explained it. He is basically waiting for market to pick up and tokens incerase in value so he sends them. Unfortunately for him and bounty hunters, chances that these tokens will have any worth in the future are slim to none.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

I think Murat should explain how this situation be resolved now that the tokens have lost value and what has he learned from this experience? Lack of clarity will only add to more questions.

He already explained it. He is basically waiting for market to pick up and tokens incerase in value so he sends them. Unfortunately for him and bounty hunters, chances that these tokens will have any worth in the future are slim to none.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

What he has not explained is plan B if what happens is those tokens continue to fall, which would not be unusual. I guess we have to assume that the participants will be left with nothing, and as you said in your previous post, the tokens were worth more before, so distributing them at that time would have made more sense.

I don't know shitcoins and tokens very well, and I understand that he may have been at a difficult crossroads and made a decision about it, but if as is likely the tokens keep going down we're going to have quite a few justified complaints about it.

[holydarkness]

Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:

I was about to ask Stalker22 where he saw that part about bounty been escrowed as I couldn't find any traces of it in the bounty thread. Is it possible to see when exactly he changed the title? It is one thing if it was changed right after bounty campaign started and another if it was changed months later.

Ninjastic archived the original title, and it does indeed contain the "[escrowed]" part. As for when it changed, though I can't be sure with the exact time, it should be around after the bounty ended, given up to the announcement of the end of the bounty he made, the title still had it.

[JollyGood]

Why would the bounty manager state escrow at the beginning and then change it later. Originally when the thread was created it was showing escrowed:

I was about to ask Stalker22 where he saw that part about bounty been escrowed as I couldn't find any traces of it in the bounty thread. Is it possible to see when exactly he changed the title? It is one thing if it was changed right after bounty campaign started and another if it was changed months later.

That will be difficult to know with certainty. Murat posted on 24th December 2022 with [Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens] [ESCROWED] but the next post in that thread was a different member on 11th May 2023 with [Bounty] Metropoly.io Social Media Campaign [$100k Tokens]

I think Murat should explain how this situation be resolved now that the tokens have lost value and what has he learned from this experience? Lack of clarity will only add to more questions.

He already explained it. He is basically waiting for market to pick up and tokens incerase in value so he sends them. Unfortunately for him and bounty hunters, chances that these tokens will have any worth in the future are slim to none.

1. It's not worth it to send $2 to each person.

2. I plan to sell the tokens at a reasonable price and distribute everyone.

I read his post but he did not mention anything about what would happen if the tokens remained worthless over a particular period of time. For example, how long will he wait for the tokens to have some sort of value before he gives up and if that (as expected) happens, does he have a plan to compensate bounty participants? Also, it would be good to read from him if he has learned anything from this experience which will help to ensure a repeat does not occur in future.

What he has not explained is plan B if what happens is those tokens continue to fall, which would not be unusual. I guess we have to assume that the participants will be left with nothing

You are right and that was the reason I asked Murat to clarify what he intends to do now that the tokens are wasted. He should learn from this and ensure bounty participants in future do not suffer the same failure.