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October 13, 2023, 08:47:41 PM
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Even experts cannot make accurate predictions about bitcoin's evolution, don't forget bitcoin is very unpredictable. Everyone wants to buy at the lowest price and sell at the highest price but since bitcoin is unpredictable, the DCA strategy is considered the best strategy when investing in bitcoin. If technical analysis could accurately tell us where the lowest price is and where the highest price is, I think there would be no losers in the market.

@CryptounityCUT, if you are confident in your analytical skills, can you tell us if the current price of 27k$ is the lowest price for accumulation?

You are absolutely right that Bitcoin is known for its unpredictability and high volatility. Even the prominent experts can't consistently make correct predictions about i future price movements of Bitcoin. Hence, DCA strategy is considered relatively safe and result oriented in the long term.

 In the world of investing, there will be always winners and losers, and there is not a single strategy which is 100% risk free and guarantees profit. Therefore it is important to evaluate your risk tolerance, financial situation and goals before making any investment decision.
Bitcoin isn't that volatile for the time being; the past few months, up to a year or even more, have been relatively stable, ranging between $25.000 and $28.000. With that being said, the DCA technique is quite effective in such cases since it's not going to purchase at an excessive price, nor at an extremely low one either, so it's safe to state that it's a relatively safe period. However, DCA isn't a panacea like the OP is claiming, and someone who's not financially well-off cannot acquire Bitcoin, no matter the technique. Purchasing $20 per month, as some users are suggesting, isn't enough and won't cut it, even on a long-term basis.

 
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October 13, 2023, 09:28:40 PM
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DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?

DCA will helps you to your average price. Technically, it really help people to acquire more Bitcoin if we will compare on buying at higher price but having an extra income is the best way to acquire more Bitcoin since you will not get more Bitcoin without putting more money on it as your investment. DCA just average your buy price but it doesn’t increase your Bitcoin amount since you are just buying using your fiat.

Get a decent job that pay more. This will helps a lot to acquire more Bitcoin then apply DCA to have an average entry price to have a optimum profit once bullrun occur. DCA is not a game changer but rather your decision to continuously buy Bitcoin using your fiat.
When one follows the DCA method he can accumulate a relatively more amount of Bitcoins. Because if the price of Bitcoin falls further after the first or second purchase, the next purchase will result in more Bitcoins for the same dollar amount. In this case his investment will be minimized gradually. and that's why following DCA reduces an investor's chances of loss. Following DCA is the job of a prudent holder.  Again it works well for trading but it is most effective for holding
It's a nice idea to consider the thought of DCA, still, it is most effective for long term holding or HODLING as is known here. The compound effect will result in a slight profit on the investment that was DCAd all the while.

If you got patience to continue even after a pause due to pressing issues, then you have been prudent enough as a good holder.

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October 14, 2023, 06:05:40 AM
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Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
- I agree that Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) is a good method for gradually accumulating assets over time, especially if you don't have the time to constantly analyze the best buying prices. However, I'd like to emphasize the importance of deciding when to stop DCA and begin selling. If you have a strategy for buying through DCA, it's equally important to have a plan for selling, especially during bullish market phases. Failing to take profits during favorable market conditions can lead to prolonged and painful bear market periods.
- There's a classic saying in investing: "If you don't take profits, someone else will take profits for you." This highlights the significance of having a clear exit strategy to lock in gains.
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October 14, 2023, 07:49:48 PM
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You have no excuse not to acquire Bitcoin, this is one of my most used word when
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Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
Same opinion brother, same, I don't see anything that makes getting Bitcoin with piece of money from weeks to months than using dollar cost averaging, it's normal for beginners to believe that they will need to buy 1 Bitcoin as many that get into Bitcoin through my help asked the same question.

How much is one Bitcoin going to cost them say said, until I told them that they don't need to get one Bitcoin to have Bitcoin, not even the half, they can start from somewhere, and that's through the help of dollar cost averaging.

Some people are out of Biitcoin today Because they thought they couldn't get half BTC or just some pieces of one Bitcoin, someone living close to me thought the same thing, thing is many people don't do research, that's why they don't know, many have smartphones and the internet today but still, they late lacking vital information.
That's definitely a lack of knowledge, a lot of people enter the market without knowing anything at all or doing any research from their end, they basically expect that they will learn everything once they get into the market but that's a wrong mindset because once you get involved monetarily, you might learn but you will learn things the hard way, so it's obviously better if they learn at least the basics before they enter the market and make their first Bitcoin purchase.

A lot of people don't buy because they don't know about the DCA method, the market goes down and becomes stable at one point, and they keep waiting because they think the market might fall even more and they will buy once that happens whereas they can start buying at that point using the DCA method.

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October 14, 2023, 08:38:50 PM
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DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.
In my opinion, DCA (Dollar Cost Average) is not obligatory for low-income earners or investors. This is a general idea for everyone, meaning anyone who wants to invest in Bitcoin, Altcoin, etc. should diversify their fund under DCA to reduce risk management and short-term losses. There is nothing wrong with it; everyone can benefit from it.

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I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
Yes, everyone is free to have their own opinion, whichever way they like, but I personally prefer DCA over Lam Sam. DCA is a permanent and easiest way to create a portfolio, especially for those who are beginners or cannot devote more time to crypto due to their busyness, i.e., employed or students.

Seeing how the current Bitcoin price is, it is certainly a good opportunity to continue applying DCA until ATH can be achieved.
You are absolutely right that, looking at the current Bitcoin price, diversifying your portfolio under DCS is the best strategy that reduces your risk of short-term loss. And anyway, there is a possibility of a bull run after the halving, so it would be better to DCA your portfolio and hold your assets until BTC crosses its ATH. Which can give you a huge profit.


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You have no excuse not to acquire Bitcoin, this is one of my most used word when
 discussing with my friends that have
 high interest in crypto, but don't have capital too buy.

Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?

The way the DCA method is being preached and hyped in bitcoin will make a layman think if there's another thing special I'm DCA. The matter of fact is that DCA is a natural method of acquiring wealth. This means that many people must have been using the method without knowing that they are using the DCA method.
When you receive salary weekly and monthly and you use a budgeted part of the salary to buy bitcoin, is it not DCA method? Just like buy as you earn. Buy small small according to your financial strength. It is a natural method and not something to be learnt or forced on people.
I also believe that the Idea of DCA has been in existence even before bitcoin and cryptocurrency is invented.

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October 14, 2023, 11:48:26 PM
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Bitcoin isn't that volatile for the time being; the past few months, up to a year or even more, have been relatively stable, ranging between $25.000 and $28.000. With that being said, the DCA technique is quite effective in such cases since it's not going to purchase at an excessive price, nor at an extremely low one either, so it's safe to state that it's a relatively safe period. However, DCA isn't a panacea like the OP is claiming, and someone who's not financially well-off cannot acquire Bitcoin, no matter the technique. Purchasing $20 per month, as some users are suggesting, isn't enough and won't cut it, even on a long-term basis.
The points you said are good in this case but I definitely disagree with what you said, indeed when talking about the quality of purchase about $20 will feel small but when the strategy in terms of quantity and effectiveness it is better. Indeed, we know that when we are in bitcoin with a small amount, it will definitely make a small profit too but the point is not there because in this case we must be aware that whatever amount we get in the end will be much better than nothing so that regardless of the amount that exists and we invest in the end as long as we have a level of consistency in making investments it will definitely be paid according to what we sowed before.
The DCA method is a good method if indeed we want to become an investor, especially in bitcoin with a long term especially if we are serious about doing it.

 
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October 14, 2023, 11:59:10 PM
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Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
- I agree that Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) is a good method for gradually accumulating assets over time, especially if you don't have the time to constantly analyze the best buying prices. However, I'd like to emphasize the importance of deciding when to stop DCA and begin selling. If you have a strategy for buying through DCA, it's equally important to have a plan for selling, especially during bullish market phases. Failing to take profits during favorable market conditions can lead to prolonged and painful bear market periods.
- There's a classic saying in investing: "If you don't take profits, someone else will take profits for you." This highlights the significance of having a clear exit strategy to lock in gains.

Of course that is correct, because otherwise no one would have used that method and no one would have given advice to do DCA. But since many people are saying here on the forum platform that it is good to apply that to saving any cryptocurrencies, I can probably see that many people will harvest a good harvest in the upcoming bull run next year.

As for me, I haven't saved that much yet, as long as the important thing is that I also have a harvest because of what I accumulate that I believe can give me savings in the future, and it's a big deal that even if it's 100k$ each of Bitcoin and even other crypto currencies that can also kick in value in the future.

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October 15, 2023, 05:30:33 AM
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You have no excuse not to acquire Bitcoin, this is one of my most used word when
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 high interest in crypto, but don't have capital too buy.

Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?

The way the DCA method is being preached and hyped in bitcoin will make a layman think if there's another thing special I'm DCA. The matter of fact is that DCA is a natural method of acquiring wealth. This means that many people must have been using the method without knowing that they are using the DCA method.
When you receive salary weekly and monthly and you use a budgeted part of the salary to buy bitcoin, is it not DCA method? Just like buy as you earn. Buy small small according to your financial strength. It is a natural method and not something to be learnt or forced on people.
I also believe that the Idea of DCA has been in existence even before bitcoin and cryptocurrency is invented.

Yes DCA is an older method than bitcoin. DCA can also be used for any purchases whose prices fluctuate, such as on the stock market. Even though DCA is a widely used method, this method also has weaknesses. When we buy bitcoin and it turns out the price goes up the next week, we can't buy again at the lowest price. Moreover, if the price of bitcoin continues to rise continuously then we will buy bitcoin at a price range that is getting more expensive every day.

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October 15, 2023, 11:06:30 AM
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Bitcoin isn't that volatile for the time being; the past few months, up to a year or even more, have been relatively stable, ranging between $25.000 and $28.000. With that being said, the DCA technique is quite effective in such cases since it's not going to purchase at an excessive price, nor at an extremely low one either, so it's safe to state that it's a relatively safe period. However, DCA isn't a panacea like the OP is claiming, and someone who's not financially well-off cannot acquire Bitcoin, no matter the technique. Purchasing $20 per month, as some users are suggesting, isn't enough and won't cut it, even on a long-term basis.
The points you said are good in this case but I definitely disagree with what you said, indeed when talking about the quality of purchase about $20 will feel small but when the strategy in terms of quantity and effectiveness it is better. Indeed, we know that when we are in bitcoin with a small amount, it will definitely make a small profit too but the point is not there because in this case we must be aware that whatever amount we get in the end will be much better than nothing so that regardless of the amount that exists and we invest in the end as long as we have a level of consistency in making investments it will definitely be paid according to what we sowed before.
The DCA method is a good method if indeed we want to become an investor, especially in bitcoin with a long term especially if we are serious about doing it.
I don't doubt the significance of investing, through DCA or not, even in small amounts. Not everyone is comfortable investing higher amounts of money or can afford to do that. Personally, I don't. However, we need to set realistic expectations, not only for minor investments but in general. There are some users that are advising newbies to start even as small as $20 to $30 per month, which I'm not against, of course, but at the same time are laying completely unrealistic expectations due to the upcoming halving. $30 per month is $360 per year, which for the majority of us is a petty amount, and it's certainly not enough to make you well-off, despite what happens after the halving cycle is complete.

As I mentioned earlier, I'm not against investing small amounts of money; it's still better than not investing at all, while it also teaches the basic principles of saving and putting aside money for the future. However, this results in making Bitcoin look like a get-rich-quick scheme, which it is not. The media is also assisting in that due to a number of success stories from the early days or by altcoins such as Doge (the Elon Musk incident a few years ago).

 
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October 15, 2023, 11:24:43 AM
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DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?

Everyone can invest in btc and DCA is obviously the best way to aquire some part of BTC at every salary. Just like your friends, some of my friends thinking that btc will only profit when they buy whole btc which is not right thinking. we can increase our Satoshis by DCA method and day will come that we will be owner of whole btc.

Most of the people couldn't afford to invest big in the start especially students, small job persons. If your friends follow your advice, I hope they will thanks you in the future. Yiu should also aware them risk, emotion control and market change history also so that they doesn't misguided from the start.


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October 15, 2023, 11:51:01 AM
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DCA is a viable option for people who have low monthly wages. People who earn little do not have much capital to invest, and by the time they save money to buy Bitcoin, the price will already be out of their reach, so DCA provides them with a way to accumulate a small amount of BTC by allocating a portion of money from their savings. This investment will not burden him or his family, and he will secure his future to an extent.
It is also equally beneficial for people who have a good amount of savings as this will give them a chance to buy Bitcoin even when the price is dipping, and their average purchase price will be much lower than those who purchased BTC as a single large trade.
It is not a wise option during a bull run.
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October 15, 2023, 11:58:23 AM
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Most of the time technical analyses prove to be right but they come with a lot of manipulation.
Most of technical analyses are right before they become inaccurate. If right or wrong is not related to your money, it's okay but if it is related to your money, profit and loss especially loss, it's no longer just a funny story. When loss comes, it is not fine.

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The majority is confident about a bitcoin rally following halving and ETF approval. They think it will be a gradual claim without any drawbacks. But what they don't know is that the road is not that straight. Whales will manipulate the market to iquidate future positions on both sides and shake the confidence of long term holders. Some of them will sell their positions out of fear. The bull will come when it is supposed to come but lots of investors will miss the train in confusion.
Bitcoin Spot ETF approval will be very hot and when that news comes, if a trader has an open short position, it will be liquidated by exchanges because market will massively blast off after the news comes out. Strong resistance will be no longer strong and technical analysis that says the strong resistance will not be broken out, will become wrong. If you believe it, make a short position, let it opens, you will lose money to forced liquidation.

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October 15, 2023, 12:14:20 PM
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I also introduced dca to my friends and they was not excited. Because it's only profitable if you assume that asset will growth in the future
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October 15, 2023, 02:12:21 PM
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Bitcoin isn't that volatile for the time being; the past few months, up to a year or even more, have been relatively stable, ranging between $25.000 and $28.000. With that being said, the DCA technique is quite effective in such cases since it's not going to purchase at an excessive price, nor at an extremely low one either, so it's safe to state that it's a relatively safe period. However, DCA isn't a panacea like the OP is claiming, and someone who's not financially well-off cannot acquire Bitcoin, no matter the technique. Purchasing $20 per month, as some users are suggesting, isn't enough and won't cut it, even on a long-term basis.
The points you said are good in this case but I definitely disagree with what you said, indeed when talking about the quality of purchase about $20 will feel small but when the strategy in terms of quantity and effectiveness it is better. Indeed, we know that when we are in bitcoin with a small amount, it will definitely make a small profit too but the point is not there because in this case we must be aware that whatever amount we get in the end will be much better than nothing so that regardless of the amount that exists and we invest in the end as long as we have a level of consistency in making investments it will definitely be paid according to what we sowed before.
The DCA method is a good method if indeed we want to become an investor, especially in bitcoin with a long term especially if we are serious about doing it.
You're right that little, steady investments are better than nothing, but isnt that too simplistic? Shouldnt investment size affect profits and happiness, especially in Bitcoin's volatile corridors? Yes, tiny gains are better than no gains, but theres a plateau where the returns may not justify the patience and strategy over time, right?

DCA is acclaimed for minimising risks and avoiding bad timing, but doesnt its efficacy decrease with small investment amounts? In a market slump, minor profits may not have the desired effect. So, while consistent, little investments have their benefits, is there a way to boost returns?

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October 15, 2023, 02:51:49 PM
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What you said @OP is right because by using the DCA method, they can buy more bitcoin with the same amount of fiat if the bitcoin price goes down.
But when the price of bitcoin rises, they have to increase the amount of fiat to get the same amount of bitcoin as before.
I prefer to use the same amount of fiat every time I buy bitcoin, regardless of whether the price is below or above.
I don't care about price changes because I focus on staying invested every week or month.
This has made things easier for me because I can manage my finances and not interfere with my financial allocation for other things.

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The points you said are good in this case but I definitely disagree with what you said, indeed when talking about the quality of purchase about $20 will feel small but when the strategy in terms of quantity and effectiveness it is better. Indeed, we know that when we are in bitcoin with a small amount, it will definitely make a small profit too but the point is not there because in this case we must be aware that whatever amount we get in the end will be much better than nothing so that regardless of the amount that exists and we invest in the end as long as we have a level of consistency in making investments it will definitely be paid according to what we sowed before.
The DCA method is a good method if indeed we want to become an investor, especially in bitcoin with a long term especially if we are serious about doing it.
You're right that little, steady investments are better than nothing, but isnt that too simplistic? Shouldnt investment size affect profits and happiness, especially in Bitcoin's volatile corridors? Yes, tiny gains are better than no gains, but theres a plateau where the returns may not justify the patience and strategy over time, right?

DCA is acclaimed for minimising risks and avoiding bad timing, but doesnt its efficacy decrease with small investment amounts? In a market slump, minor profits may not have the desired effect. So, while consistent, little investments have their benefits, is there a way to boost returns?
That's what I mentioned earlier when I said the profit will be based on the capital spent so if the investment we make is large then surely the profit is also greater but the point in this case is that regardless of the size or small investment we make it will get its own portion of profit.
Talking about investment and happiness in profit, of course, this does affect but when we talk about investment, the goal is long-term, let alone doing DCA consistently.
For example when we invest $20 every month then indirectly in 1 year it means there is already $240 for us to invest in consistent DCA and it will increase as long as you do DCA for example in a period of several years. so in this case it is not about the problem of big or small but our confidence whether we can do a good DCA or not. of course we can also compensate for this with something else like buying on the dip when the market is crashing to increase our portopolio.

In addition, of course we will also not stick to the initial value of $20 before because we can do better if we have more money because even though our expenses are many and our countries have different economic levels but I personally do DCA $10 per week it is still doable and until now I am still doing it and I am still comfortable with $40 per week even though it is not big but I believe that when my consistency in doing DCA then it can be something useful and get more benefits in the next few years.

 
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October 16, 2023, 10:26:55 PM
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You have no excuse not to acquire Bitcoin, this is one of my most used word when
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 high interest in crypto, but don't have capital too buy.

Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?

Sure DCA is easy and sounds a good a way to acquire bitcoin gradually to have it ready during the bull run. However, not being able to execute it correctly may decrease your chances of maximizing your profit. They can't just continue buying regardless if they are DCAing when the price is high, they need to find a good entry point from where they can have another purchase especially for small time investors or low income earners, this is very important to maximize the profit.


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Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
- I agree that Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) is a good method for gradually accumulating assets over time, especially if you don't have the time to constantly analyze the best buying prices. However, I'd like to emphasize the importance of deciding when to stop DCA and begin selling. If you have a strategy for buying through DCA, it's equally important to have a plan for selling, especially during bullish market phases. Failing to take profits during favorable market conditions can lead to prolonged and painful bear market periods.
- There's a classic saying in investing: "If you don't take profits, someone else will take profits for you." This highlights the significance of having a clear exit strategy to lock in gains.


If you understand what investment in Bitcoin is all about you won't be talking about failing to take profit during favorable market condition and on the other hand you sound like a trader, because accumulating and taking profit in short interval because of bullish market is same thing as trading. As far as Bitcoin investment is concerned I doubt if there's anything like best buying price  and somehow I think the DCA method was brought because there's no best buying price, so as to enable one invest regardless of the price and hold for a period of time and the reason one should hold for a period is that since they are not buying at a particular price I mean since it is a continuous buying process sometimes you can't be sure if you have made profit because of buying at different price and this makes me feel DCA is mostly for future use. The funny thing about DCAING is that while some investors are waiting for the Dip to invest one is busy accumulating with the DCA and I will say that is an advantage and one  of the amazing thing about DCA method.
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Since I introduced the DCA method to them, it was a game changer too them,
 DCA is the best way for low income earners to acquire more Bitcoin.

I don't know if anyone else has different opinion about it?
- I agree that Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) is a good method for gradually accumulating assets over time, especially if you don't have the time to constantly analyze the best buying prices. However, I'd like to emphasize the importance of deciding when to stop DCA and begin selling. If you have a strategy for buying through DCA, it's equally important to have a plan for selling, especially during bullish market phases. Failing to take profits during favorable market conditions can lead to prolonged and painful bear market periods.
- There's a classic saying in investing: "If you don't take profits, someone else will take profits for you." This highlights the significance of having a clear exit strategy to lock in gains.


If you understand what investment in Bitcoin is all about you won't be talking about failing to take profit during favorable market condition and on the other hand you sound like a trader, because accumulating and taking profit in short interval because of bullish market is same thing as trading. As far as Bitcoin investment is concerned I doubt if there's anything like best buying price  and somehow I think the DCA method was brought because there's no best buying price, so as to enable one invest regardless of the price and hold for a period of time and the reason one should hold for a period is that since they are not buying at a particular price I mean since it is a continuous buying process sometimes you can't be sure if you have made profit because of buying at different price and this makes me feel DCA is mostly for future use. The funny thing about DCAING is that while some investors are waiting for the Dip to invest one is busy accumulating with the DCA and I will say that is an advantage and one  of the amazing thing about DCA method.
An investor will only choose to take profit on a distinguished occasion. One would be based on the investment logetivivty. If the investment is for the short term then it is likely that he will take it at every moment in time that he accrue a profit. If it's for the long term then there must be a target or horizon that he has in mind for withdrawal. Another fact that may cause an investor to profit at favorable conditions is life happenings. Ranging from unexpected expenses, debts, health care and to mention a few.

Every entry point is a good time to buy. At 1$, 10$, 1000$, 10,000 or 100,000$. One thing is certain the price will continue to increase as years pass by.

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