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Looks like Adrien Broner is making a comeback! I honestly thought his career was done after that Pacman fight, but I did some digging into his boxing record, and he's got two consecutive wins via unanimous decisions against Jovanie Santiago and Bill Hutchinson. Now, it's not a championship fight, but I couldn't help myself from starting this thread. I find Adrien Broner to be a really interesting boxer, and the way I see it, he might just be gearing up for another shot at a championship bout in the future.

The guy's already 34 years old, right smack in the middle of his career, but this journey could be his last shot to see if he's still got what it takes to be a champ again.

In the Welterweight division, under WBC, he's currently ranked at 15. It's probably not going to be an easy journey for him if he wants to become the mandatory challenger but probably Crawford possibly moving up in weight by that time already, so who knows.

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October 10, 2023, 04:45:38 AM
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It's not a championship fight, but it's certainly an intriguing one, mainly because many of us here would like to see Broner lose. His cocky demeanor doesn't endear him to everyone, and his style has its fair share of critics. Winning by unanimous decision in his last two fights does highlight his dominance as a boxer, and some see similarities between his style and Mayweather's. However, his loss to Pacquiao by UD did diminish his standing in comparison to Mayweather.

Being currently ranked in the top 15, he's in the bottom part of that list. It's hard to say whether a championship fight or retirement will come first for him.

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October 10, 2023, 05:10:54 AM
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Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.


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October 10, 2023, 05:17:55 AM
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Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.

Absolutely, it was a defining moment in his career when Maidana defeated him. Broner seemed overly confident as he entered the ring, underestimating Maidana, who had already given Mayweather a run for his money in their first encounter (which was a controversial fight).

As for Broner, he's still in the fight game, but it's evident that he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, watching him in action is always entertaining. Broner's not just a fighter; he's quite the showman, especially during face-offs. He's known for his trash talk, and that adds another layer of excitement to the whole spectacle. Let's tune in and enjoy the drama!

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Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.

Absolutely, it was a defining moment in his career when Maidana defeated him. Broner seemed overly confident as he entered the ring, underestimating Maidana, who had already given Mayweather a run for his money in their first encounter (which was a controversial fight).

As a boxing fan, no one will really forget how Maidana beat and dominated Broner back then. It was one of the worst beating for that year and Broner was never the same after that. But he is still arrogant and boastful after that and seemingly can't accept that he was defeated. And he was supposedly the next Mayweather, AB (About Billions)  Grin was his monicker. But after his defeat, his relationship with Floyd went sour and he was out from TMT (Team Money Train) of Floyd. Not only his boxing career went down, if I'm not mistaken he also has some sexual battery case and has been arrested.

As for Broner, he's still in the fight game, but it's evident that he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, watching him in action is always entertaining. Broner's not just a fighter; he's quite the showman, especially during face-offs. He's known for his trash talk, and that adds another layer of excitement to the whole spectacle. Let's tune in and enjoy the drama!

He is already on the twilight of his career, he is no longer in his prime although he is very lucky that he still has been given this kind of fights, specially he got a big paycheck on the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes that time. And even if he wins here against a no name fighter, it won't resurrect his career anymore. And just like any other aging boxers, they are just fighting for the paycheck and try to squeeze as much as they can before they retire.

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Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.

Absolutely, it was a defining moment in his career when Maidana defeated him. Broner seemed overly confident as he entered the ring, underestimating Maidana, who had already given Mayweather a run for his money in their first encounter (which was a controversial fight).

As a boxing fan, no one will really forget how Maidana beat and dominated Broner back then. It was one of the worst beating for that year and Broner was never the same after that. But he is still arrogant and boastful after that and seemingly can't accept that he was defeated. And he was supposedly the next Mayweather, AB (About Billions)  Grin was his monicker. But after his defeat, his relationship with Floyd went sour and he was out from TMT (Team Money Train) of Floyd. Not only his boxing career went down, if I'm not mistaken he also has some sexual battery case and has been arrested.

His actions were quite reckless; he spent a substantial amount of money on partying, and there are even suspicions of drug use. Moreover, he's involved in a legal case that demands significant financial resources. It's possible that this is why he's continuing his career in boxing. Regarding his legal situation, since he hasn't been incarcerated yet, it's conceivable that he's had to shell out a substantial sum of money, leaving him in a precarious financial state. Quite a precarious situation indeed!


As for Broner, he's still in the fight game, but it's evident that he's approaching the twilight of his career. Nevertheless, watching him in action is always entertaining. Broner's not just a fighter; he's quite the showman, especially during face-offs. He's known for his trash talk, and that adds another layer of excitement to the whole spectacle. Let's tune in and enjoy the drama!

He is already on the twilight of his career, he is no longer in his prime although he is very lucky that he still has been given this kind of fights, specially he got a big paycheck on the Manny Pacquiao sweepstakes that time. And even if he wins here against a no name fighter, it won't resurrect his career anymore. And just like any other aging boxers, they are just fighting for the paycheck and try to squeeze as much as they can before they retire.

He definitely needs a strong promoter right now. Even without one, as long as he continues to compete, there's still a chance for him to earn some income. Let's hope he finds the support he needs in that regard.

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Pacman didn't do much damage to him but Maidana humiliate Broner more which I thought he'd actually stop fighting after that fight. Broner considerably has a good record though despite his showboating that end up badly.
But he still lost to Manny and then during post interview, he thought he won, Lol,. Pacman didn't do much damage because Broner doesn't want to fight but just survived the whole 12 rounds. Against Maidana, he was the big favorite, and I guess if you are really too arrogant sometimes karma will get the best out of you and that's what happen to him.

He is fighting an unknown boxer. I tried watching Chris on youtube he seem a slugger. A perect pair for Broner.
Most likely another tailor fight as what we say, so that his best qualities are going to be shown here. Like counter punching and his defense and Philly shell stance that all they learn from the legendary Floyd Mayweather. Perhaps this could be a 12 round decision win for Maidana but I don't think it will be enough for him to go up in the rankings and fight the champion.

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Looks like Adrien Broner is making a comeback! I honestly thought his career was done after that Pacman fight,
Yeah I also thought Broner is done In boxing as there are no Big news about
His career from losing against Manny Pacquiao .
but like you shared that he had 2 wins recently before this fight? maybe He wanted to prove many people that he is still in ring , though very far from making to fought against Bigger names such as Inoue .
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rating   
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bouts   21
rounds   105
KOs   44.44%
career   2007-2023
debut   2007-08-03


Source ; https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/419402

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October 10, 2023, 11:47:50 AM
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Looks like Adrien Broner is making a comeback! I honestly thought his career was done after that Pacman fight, but I did some digging into his boxing record, and he's got two consecutive wins via unanimous decisions against Jovanie Santiago and Bill Hutchinson. Now, it's not a championship fight, but I couldn't help myself from starting this thread. I find Adrien Broner to be a really interesting boxer, and the way I see it, he might just be gearing up for another shot at a championship bout in the future.

Adrien Broner's boxing career is done, at least for me. The guy lacks the discipline of a true champion, though he won against Santiago and Hutchinson but that were not an impressive wins and i would not be surprised that after this fight, he will retire hehe.

About getting a title fight in the future, that's a slim possibility as he is not a crowd drawer for now.
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Adrien Broner's career and skill are going down his last two fights come from two unpopular fighters he is slow he is just a shadow of his former self when lording in the welterweight division, I don't think he can fight top-level fighters like Spence he is just here for the money, he should have retired after the Pacquaio fight I don't think he can get his old glory back it's only a matter of time before someone knocks him out to retirement and it could be Chris Howard but I doubt, Howard is another cherry-picked fight based on his record.

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I don't like his antics during fight promotions but I cannot deny the fact that he is still capable. He's fighting someone his age and not some young dude who has immense potential. Probably just another handpicked match to boost up his record and maybe title run. I cannot find an open line from major crypto sportsbook yet. I'm hoping Broner is the underdog in this fight so I could bet more hehe.

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October 10, 2023, 02:57:15 PM
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I don't like his antics during fight promotions but I cannot deny the fact that he is still capable. He's fighting someone his age and not some young dude who has immense potential. Probably just another handpicked match to boost up his record and maybe title run. I cannot find an open line from major crypto sportsbook yet. I'm hoping Broner is the underdog in this fight so I could bet more hehe.

Looking at Broner's record, he actually fought this year last June against Bill Hutchinson to which Broner defeated this guy by UD. Broner seems to be active after all, but just very stealthy I guess he lost his fans that's why even the media is not covering him. Arum still wants to extend Broner's career so they pick the ones that he can just crush.

Adrien's latest stunt was this https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vmAAQaG8xtY accusing McDonald's staff spitting on his food.  Grin
I read Chris Howard was his sparring partner years ago. I guess they wanna make it right this time where Chris can finally hit back and put it on record.


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I want to see how Broner promotes this fight because he is good at that especially when he talks to his opponents just to hype their upcoming fight. this would be a nice match-up for him since Howard is not as strong as his last opponents who completely beat him. He just needs to support those trash talks with some good skills and speed to not be humbled again by his opponent and not to shut down any opportunity for his comeback because it would be hard for him to do so once he loses this opportunity once again.

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It's really hard to retire a boxer his mind tells him to continue even if the body is not responsive anymore, Broner doesn't have it anymore based on his last two fights although convincing, he's not the same Broner anymore.

He will finally realize it is time for him to hang up his gloves if one highly-rated boxer knocks him out, he will cherry-pick fighters so he can earn a reputation for fighting fighters who are in the top 10, his goal is to make more money so he can retire and he needs one big money maker to fight and unfortunately, he will get a full beating if that fight happens.

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It's really hard to retire a boxer his mind tells him to continue even if the body is not responsive anymore, Broner doesn't have it anymore based on his last two fights although convincing, he's not the same Broner anymore.

He will finally realize it is time for him to hang up his gloves if one highly-rated boxer knocks him out, he will cherry-pick fighters so he can earn a reputation for fighting fighters who are in the top 10, his goal is to make more money so he can retire and he needs one big money maker to fight and unfortunately, he will get a full beating if that fight happens.

Yes, sooner or later he will have to retire from boxing. But if he keeps winning then he will have this illusion that he can continue to fight and won belt and obviously chase for more money.

But we have seen that he is no longer in his prime and just fighting low rated fighter just to stay above the division. But if he losses this one, he will be done and I doubt that any promoter will give him a chance. Unless he is willing to be the stepping stone of a upcoming fighter. Meaning he is willing to have a huge pay cut and is there to absorb and not to win. And I don't know if boxing fans are excited to see him in the ring with some unknown boxer.

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Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

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October 13, 2023, 07:00:26 AM
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Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

He bounced back with two wins after his defeat against Pacman, so it seems safe to assume that any mental issues he had are in the past or under control. This may not be a championship fight, but I'm sure there's still plenty of interest in watching it. Some might be tuning in just to see how Broner ends his career, hehe.

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Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

Yes, he might really be in need of money right now, because he keeps on fighting bums and he is no longer close to that supposedly, "About Billions" persona of him. Specially when he was still very close to Floyd. I didn't know that he sign up with Don King though, but yeah in any case we all know how shady Don King is. But perhaps AB has no other options.

Maybe he is just getting chump change right now but he needs to survived and get that paycheck after paycheck. But I doubt that even if he won by a knockout or something spectacular, his name will be up for the championship belt again. He is old and way beyond his prime now.

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Chris Howard has only fought once since 2016. Broner isn't going to challenge for a world title any time soon with those kind of opponents. The fact he's ranked in the top 15 with any sanctioning body has more to do with his name recognition than his quality as a fighter. "About Billions" is clearly desperate for money, that's why he had to resort to signing with Don King. We'll see if he actually goes through with this fight or if he ends up using the mental health issues excuse again and pulls out at the last minute.

Yes, he might really be in need of money right now, because he keeps on fighting bums and he is no longer close to that supposedly, "About Billions" persona of him. Specially when he was still very close to Floyd. I didn't know that he sign up with Don King though, but yeah in any case we all know how shady Don King is. But perhaps AB has no other options.

Maybe he is just getting chump change right now but he needs to survived and get that paycheck after paycheck. But I doubt that even if he won by a knockout or something spectacular, his name will be up for the championship belt again. He is old and way beyond his prime now.

Given his poor ranking, it would be hard for him to climb the ladder and become a mandatory challenger. I won't touch on his age, as that would be disrespectful; the fact that he is still fighting means he is still capable. However, I agree with you that age could be a factor, but, like I said, I won't judge him based on his age; I would only assess based on the outcome of the fight.

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October 16, 2023, 12:01:27 PM
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There’s been a change in the schedule. The fight between Adrien Broner and Chris Howard, which was originally set for November 4th, has been moved to December 2nd. This fight is scheduled for 10 rounds in the Welterweight division.

I think Broner's ranking at 15 in the Welterweight division under WBC shows that he still has potential.

https://www.boxingscene.com/adrien-broner-vs-chris-howard-pushed-back-december-2--178511

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