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October 11, 2023, 01:34:04 PM |
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I would have to assess the proposal first, I have learned for awhile now to not easily dismiss or decline stuff that isn't right for me, I first have to ask the questions and see if the risks outweighs the benefits and the other way around. So in this case, I would probably say that I should see my friend play or even just ask what kind of game my friend is gambling in, if I see that it's something that's heavily based on luck then I would outright decline but if it's not the case and my friend is good at it, I am probably going to go help that friend although I can't be the sugar daddy that my friend will just bleed me dry but back to reality, when that reall happens to you, that friend of yours is already addicted and you financing your friend's gambling habit is not going to help that friend.
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Wapfika
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October 11, 2023, 01:34:55 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
No, funding someone gambling doesn’t make sense since it’s a gamble. He can always lie on declaring the result of the game since you are not with him when gambling unless you are interested on gambling yourself. The only time I can think this kind of idea as feasible is when the guy has a good portfolio in gambling because not in a million chance I will trust someone gamble using my money.
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Nheer
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October 11, 2023, 02:06:13 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
It’s not a bad idea to me if i cross check the games and they look ambitious to me I wouldn’t mind to finance them because blessings can come from an unexpected source in disguise so I would try it out since i will also have a portion of the money if he wins. Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
All of the above including gambling are based on luck. Forex and crypto trading are even more riskier and require huge amount to finance. I have someone who wanted to introduce me to forex some while ago but i lost interest when he told me i need a $100 start up capital which is a huge amount in my country, where would i get such amount from but in gambling with an amount as little as $5 - $10 you can finance a person in gambling. Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
I don’t see it as been used, if he trusts the person not to lie to him about it ending as a loss after he actually won just to runaway with the winning amount. I have seen people run such a thing on multiple occasions and they usually don’t have any problem with one another. Before you engage in this kind of deals you just need to trust the person so much or you have to have understanding about gambling and be present while he stakes the money so you will know the potential amount to win and also on your end you need to follow up the games so he doesn’t lie to you about any of the games. I have also done this a couple of times without any problem and if someone comes to me to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of the winning i will do so if i trust the person but also i will tell them to make use of my gambling account to stake the games.
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October 11, 2023, 02:37:37 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
Is anyone doing this on here?
Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
Basically I will decline his offer in financing him for the sake of his portion of winning. Even how much he try to convince me to invest in him, even if he show a winning streak, I will say No. it's just too risky and for me it's not right to ask someone to support his gambling vice. If he is confident with his gambling skills, why is he asking for someone to finance him? If he is a friend, the maximum thing I can do is to stop him from his action because it can put his life in danger given that he is collecting money from others and putting it on a very risky way of earning, once he failed to do his promise, there's a chance that the financers might do something to him. Rather not a good idea to accept since imagine the huge risk brought up to the lender since we don't know if the person who borrow will really pay if he lose the money he lend to us. That's why its really better to decline such offers so that we will not get hurt if someone will default the payments to us. Its more better that they know we are not accepting such offers so we cannot get bothered by dubious offers telling that we can guarantee a win if we finance their gambling activities. We see a lot of story like this but end up so unfortunate to the part of financers or investors since those people gone when bad things happen and they struggle to locate those guys for possible recovery of the funds they release for supposed to be profit earning schemes. We shouid learn from unfortunate experience and we should turn down those risky request and ignore the thoughts that we can earn if we ride on their skills.
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October 11, 2023, 04:08:18 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
Is anyone doing this on here?
Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
Be it forex trading or crypto trading they are all a pool of risk you only have to measure your risk appetite, your greed level and your drive for which have led to you funding the person. In as much as funding a gambler doesn't make sense to you there are people out there who have tried it out and end up very profitable from it, in essence it's very possible to profit from funding a gambler and getting a good share of his proceed from the bets he must have placed. But then if you must engage in such it must be with a skilled person but then you would be ready to keep an open mind as to whatever the outcome turns out to be, you are going to accept it and not throw blames at the gambler as gambling is a 50/50 chances risk but then with experience some persons can turn out luckier than you would be if you had done it yourself. So at times it wouldn't be a bad idea to fund a gambler , it's important to note that's it's not a very ideal decision to take but then out there, there are people who actually take such risk and sometimes they are profitable the other times the loose.
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danadc
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October 11, 2023, 04:17:23 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
No, funding someone gambling doesn’t make sense since it’s a gamble. He can always lie on declaring the result of the game since you are not with him when gambling unless you are interested on gambling yourself. The only time I can think this kind of idea as feasible is when the guy has a good portfolio in gambling because not in a million chance I will trust someone gamble using my money. I would not accept it because when things are dealt with other people's money that scares me and it is a very big responsibility, I would not do it because it would be something that if I do not win then I would get into problems with the associated person, and it is not for me My reputation and the things I do legally are very important, and I would also feel very bad if I lost his money. I believe that when it comes to money, the accounts have to be very clear, because otherwise fights can occur, people change because the money, I don't owe money or anything like that, because I'm not Calm , I'm all the time thinking about how to pay that quickly.
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uneng
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October 11, 2023, 04:20:51 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
For me it doesn't make sense, because gambling is well known for generating losses on long term for most gamblers, so there is a massive chance you are never going to see your money again after you lend it to your gambler friend. Gambling isn't an investment, therefore nobody should lend or borrow money for that purpose. There are many stories of people who borrow money and weren't able to pay it back, due to accumulating losses at the casino. It never ends well.
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NeilLostBitCoin
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October 11, 2023, 04:43:13 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
It feels weird once someone approaches me that way. I wouldn't dare to finance that gambler unless I'm confident that this person is consistently winning or providing high-value collateral in case of loss. Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
In some countries, casinos or people in casinos practice lending money to VIP gamblers. The outcome of the betting depends on the gamblers luck. If the gambler wins the bet, they will repay the borrowed money. However, if they lose, they may have to offer some assets as collateral until they settle their debt. In the worst-case scenario, the lender may seize your collateral as a form of payment for the debt you owe.
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Hispo
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October 11, 2023, 04:48:37 PM |
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In a familiar context, no. I have never heard of anything like it or seen it face to face happening in front of me. Though, I have seen some guy here in the forum who was trying to earn consequetive sport bets in order to get to 1mill $ purely on his predictions, from some money which was given to him.by others. That is the only case of gambling sponsorship I have seen here.
I would never do such think, to trust a gambler with my money, I would rather to gamble by myself. In the case of sport betting, There would be more chances I would give some money to someone who knows more about sports and their teams than I do.
Anyone can roll a dice or spin a slot machine, but not enyone can predict a football game outcome it is something which takes intuition and experience.
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October 11, 2023, 04:58:59 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
For me it doesn't make sense, because gambling is well known for generating losses on long term for most gamblers, so there is a massive chance you are never going to see your money again after you lend it to your gambler friend. Gambling isn't an investment, therefore nobody should lend or borrow money for that purpose. There are many stories of people who borrow money and weren't able to pay it back, due to accumulating losses at the casino. It never ends well. As for me, i cant take the risk because as for me gambling is best for entertainment and fun but if someone have gone to the level of taking loans from family or friends to finance they gambling escapade, such condition have slide into addictions and at that there is high possibility of losing the borrowed money, i will rather advice the friend to simply take a break and to wait till he has is own spear money to gamble away. But none the less, if we are in a physical casino and he just need a session to keep his head up before we leave them I can spear some few coins if I have won a lot on the roll.
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BitcoinTurk
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October 11, 2023, 05:41:47 PM |
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If a friend of mine came to me and asked me to fund him playing gambling, I would refuse because everyone knows that gambling is not a job and there is a losing factor that will be faced by people who want to try to win. They will have difficulty winning and if they borrow money from others, they will also have difficulty paying it back. I have never heard that gambling can be financed but it is possible especially if there is collateral that can be used as something that can be taken if the borrower suffers a total loss.
If someone tells you about this, you can advise them not to lend them money. Playing gambling can cause a lot of losses and even though they can win, they won't know when they can win. But defeat is definitely behind it all so they will most likely lose. And for someone who wants to lend a friend it's better to immediately refuse so that they both don't experience problems later.
Yes, since there is never a guarantee of winning in gambling and there are many risks such as not getting a money back if he/she gambled with borrowed money, the person who asks such a question should definitely not be given a loan. Regarding lending against collateral I think this decision should be made depending on the collateral. In addition, if a collateral that can be easily liquidated is provided and this collateral has a value above the loan amount lending will be a logical option regardless of the purpose. The reason for this is that it is possible to easily get the loan amount or even more with collateral and the collateral secures the given debt. In other words, it will not actually be important for the lender for what purpose the loan will be given against a good collateral.
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DaNNy001
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October 11, 2023, 05:53:46 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
Is anyone doing this on here?
Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
I don't know for any other person but I feel this is pure stupidity and I will to think that anyone who actually does this is just trying to certified the urge of him wanting to waste money because there is no base that supports the fact of someone actually being funded due to his gambling experience whatsoever. Gambling is something that has to do with luck so actually funding someone that is a gambler just sounds pretty crazy for me.
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bitbollo
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October 11, 2023, 06:23:06 PM |
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Financing player is a common practice like in poker... but in the past (some years ago - see reference below) during Direct Bet Monthly competition I have sold in a auction 1% of my stake in a competition! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1565169.0 Of course I have won and the user has made a good investment. For me, it was a deal since I had more crypto to gamble, so I was able to maximize my win. Even if the experiment was profitable for all parties involved I decide to not auction anymore these stakes. I don't think it's easy to made such deals in a classic betting setting (it's really easy get scammed in my opinion...)
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Westinhome
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October 11, 2023, 07:46:09 PM |
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Entering the gambling world is one of the most imprudent choices one might make because it can generate financial problems. Lending money to a friend is helpful, but not for gambling; wagering money is never a reliable source because it might be spent immediately without fulfilling important needs. Winning is everything in gambling, keeping the gambler to be happy at all times, but don't get caught on the losing side because it will undoubtedly shatter one's entire existence. Giving a gambler listening ears is out of line for me, because they tend to messed up big time when it's time to repay.
If the gambler get into the gambling,they get financial problem if they get addicted to the gambling.If the gambler play the game with their interested time with limited deposit to the gambling site will not affect them at any point.Some people spend the money on the games and later think about the important things.So it’s better to concentrate on the important things of the real life.Then spend on the games which give us the entertainment.Because some addicted people in the gambling will ask the loan to all the friends number in their mobile number.So the friends will not pick the call of the gambling addicted person.
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Wakate
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October 11, 2023, 07:48:47 PM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
For me it doesn't make sense, because gambling is well known for generating losses on long term for most gamblers, so there is a massive chance you are never going to see your money again after you lend it to your gambler friend. Gambling isn't an investment, therefore nobody should lend or borrow money for that purpose. There are many stories of people who borrow money and weren't able to pay it back, due to accumulating losses at the casino. It never ends well. As for me, i cant take the risk because as for me gambling is best for entertainment and fun but if someone have gone to the level of taking loans from family or friends to finance they gambling escapade, such condition have slide into addictions and at that there is high possibility of losing the borrowed money, i will rather advice the friend to simply take a break and to wait till he has is own spear money to gamble away. But none the less, if we are in a physical casino and he just need a session to keep his head up before we leave them I can spear some few coins if I have won a lot on the roll. We don't even thought to borrow money to gamble, this is not a good idea and it is good for us to try as much as possible to balance the way we make bet because this alone can pose a big threat to us in the future. Collecting loans to gamble is never advisable since we are not even guaranteed that we are good to make profits with that fund. There are people that might have taken this kind of steps and succeeded but that does not mean that it could be a good alternative for us since we don't know what they did with the funds they borrowed and how fortunate they were to have make huge profits with the borrowed funds.
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October 12, 2023, 03:54:03 AM |
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Entering the gambling world is one of the most imprudent choices one might make because it can generate financial problems. Lending money to a friend is helpful, but not for gambling; wagering money is never a reliable source because it might be spent immediately without fulfilling important needs. Winning is everything in gambling, keeping the gambler to be happy at all times, but don't get caught on the losing side because it will undoubtedly shatter one's entire existence. Giving a gambler listening ears is out of line for me, because they tend to messed up big time when it's time to repay.
Entering the world of gambling is one of the most reckless choices a person can make because it can lead to financial problems. Lending money to friends is useful, but not for gambling. Betting money is not a reliable source because it can be spent straight away without meeting important needs. Winning is everything in gambling, keeping the gambler happy at all times, but don't get caught on the losing side because it will destroy one's entire existence. Giving gamblers a hearing is outrageous to me, as they tend to screw up often when it comes time to pay back. Many people cannot avoid the temptation to enter gambling which makes most people interested in starting to gamble. They initially gambled just for entertainment but in the end, they got deeper into gambling and couldn't get out of gambling easily. They even borrow money from their friends when they don't have money to gamble so it will only give them problems when they can't pay back the money. They should not rely on gambling to make money because it will not give good results but instead, they will have to lose their money. And that is what has ruined many people's lives and even had an impact on their home lives and also had an impact on their children. Yes, since there is never a guarantee of winning in gambling and there are many risks such as not getting a money back if he/she gambled with borrowed money, the person who asks such a question should definitely not be given a loan.
Regarding lending against collateral I think this decision should be made depending on the collateral. In addition, if a collateral that can be easily liquidated is provided and this collateral has a value above the loan amount lending will be a logical option regardless of the purpose. The reason for this is that it is possible to easily get the loan amount or even more with collateral and the collateral secures the given debt. In other words, it will not actually be important for the lender for what purpose the loan will be given against a good collateral.
Moreover, we know that gambling cannot always make money and what happens is that we will only damage our friendship with him. We shouldn't lend him money for gambling and our relationship with friends to become bad and uncomfortable again. They also shouldn't be able to force us to give them a loan because the money is for gambling, where the outcome will be uncertain whether they can win or lose. But if the loan money is used for business, he may still get the loan. Some people will borrow money but don't have any collateral and this often happens with our friends and they never want to pay if we collect their debt. We may have experienced this often and if he borrows again, we don't need to lend because the debt could become even bigger.
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October 12, 2023, 04:15:34 AM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Why would you trust anyone to gamble better than you can when it's all about luck?
Is anyone doing this on here?
Someone explained this to me, and I believe he is already a victim because to me it doesn't make sense, I believe he is been used because he lacks knowledge about gambling, do you think my judgment is wrong?
This is my first time hearing such this, and this is not a good idea. Even if that is your most trusted friend, I don't think it is advisable to finance someone for them to gamble. First, maybe that friend wanted to generate an income out of gambling but he/she had no funds, so approached a friend. Meaning, if that person failed to win and lost all the money, how will he/she pay now? This is not a win-win situation, because only one is certain to benefit because he/she has nothing to lose. Again, it is never a good idea to use borrowed money for gambling because it should only be your free money, and if you don't have any, then don't gamble.
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October 12, 2023, 06:08:24 AM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense?
Because the only place this makes a bit sense is the skills base niche like forex trading or crypto trading, how can gambling/gambler be financed?
Have you heard of such before? What is the end result if you have?
Before I lend to a friend, I will definitely try to get a good idea of the current condition of that friend. Because if he's not doing well financially or if he doesn't have a good source of income then I won't be interested in giving him money because if that friend loses then I'm less likely to get that money back. A gambler is not guaranteed to win and gambling has fatal effects for those who gamble on loan. Even if I lend him money in any order, I will not join him in betting. If I'm interested I'll definitely try to bet myself. Although I have not heard of any such incident. However, this is not unusual. Maybe my friend is very experienced in gambling but I have no interest in partnership betting.
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October 12, 2023, 10:55:11 AM |
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It amazes me that there are members who still don't know this concept. I'm not sure if the message was conveyed properly so why don't we make it simpler or expand the scope and not just strictly casinos and sportsbooks? Financing can be as simple as letting your friend borrow a small amount to bet on basketball like those in the park? He could be the one playing or some guys you know from your neighborhood.
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October 12, 2023, 11:04:06 AM |
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How will you feel if someone you know or just a friend of a friend walk up to you and ask you to finance them in gambling in exchange for a portion of their winnings? Does this even make any sense? It makes sense if you are a mobster and a "loan shark", and you want to make the gamblers your lifetime debtors. Gamblers can be easily exploited financially. That's why many mobsters, who owned casinos were offering loan services at the same time. I could give a loan to a gambler, only if he can provide more than 150% collateral for the loan. Giving a loan to a gambler without any collateral is pure madness. I don't care about how good a gambler actually is and what are his skills and experience. I just want collateral for the loan. Skills and experience means nothing in the gambling world.
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