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November 27, 2023, 08:51:06 AM
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Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
Holding is just keeping our assets in a secure manner and making use of it after specific time period or waiting for particular price to be reached. With trading there is a need of regular market watching and we need to make better prediction so to increase the chance of making profit. With holding we won't learn anything about the market, whereas the money into trading will give us learning about the market. We know much about the price movement and based on the same we can extend the holding time period. So, atleast small amount need to be involved into trading in my view.
You are not right in some of what you wrote here, my friend, but permit me to say that you actually know the true meaning of HODLing and Trading so as to differentiate between them. People often believe that HODLing is a regular investment where the trader will be checking the chart and their wallets all the time and something similar to trading, but NO, it's far from that. If you must HODL, you have to make up your mind that you are putting the money there and close your eyes since it's for a long future keepng which could be in years or even decades.

However, where you made the error is that someone does not need to learn before HODLing, No, You have to learn a lot before you HODL. You need to know the asset you want to HODL, how it behaves, the immediate and future prospects, and reliability/shortcomings and many more. Even at that, if you are not making an analysis about it too, you shouldn't still turn a deaf ear to your HODLed asset, you have to be reading the news and following the fundamentals around it in case of bad events that need your quick action.

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November 27, 2023, 03:36:17 PM
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Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Anyways as for me I prefer to hold my assets for long term so I can have the opportunity to put them in flexible savings and still wait for the assets to rise. Any time I intend to trade I mostly make use of copy trading on Bitget.
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November 27, 2023, 03:40:12 PM
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You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

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I also believe that holding will bring better returns than trading, but because people are so impatient, they turn to trading, especially futures trading. But most will get disastrous results, but the sadder thing is that many people still don't realize it, many people still rush into futures trading in the hope of making quick profits with huge leverage.

As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.

It’s very possible for you to get good profit from trading as well, most especially when you’re good at analyzing charts, or when you copy trade from a good elite trader, although the copy trading feature is not available on all exchanges, few exchanges like Bitget develop it to help their users make profit.
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November 27, 2023, 03:42:37 PM
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Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.
There is no loss in holding because the price of Bitcoins falls below the value of the investment but it recovers again. But this requires patience. If you patiently hold for long term, you will definitely get profit from there. However, this patience is not shared by everyone and failure to hold long-term results in a bad experience with Bitcoin. And those who can hold it successfully are sure to profit.

Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

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some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
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2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.
A person who trades regularly and has no plans to hold should use a centralized exchange to trade smoothly. And if one intends to hold then a good Decentralized wallet should be used to hold long term Bitcoins. in this case Electrum Bitcoin Wallet is more comfortable to use and secure.

Yea, CEX is the best for traders there are also some other opportunities on CEX that users will really enjoy rather than using DEX with high transaction fee.
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November 27, 2023, 04:20:05 PM
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Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.

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November 28, 2023, 01:13:42 PM
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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, holding does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.
A secure wallet is of course essential for investing in Bitcoin. 
When you buy Bitcoin the first thing you need is a secure wallet where your funds will be kept safe.
Money is the most important thing you must have for trading and investing, without money you can never invest. So for holding and trading or investing you need to save money first and buy bitcoins later. Then if you have bitcoins you can hold them for a long time and profit from them in the future.
When storing your bitcoins in a secure wallet, you must store them in a hardware or software wallet. Your bitcoins will be safe when you use these wallets. Moreover, if you want to keep your funds safe, you must keep your wallet keys in a safe place so that there is no chance of being hacked.

I do both. I think both come in handy but it depends on how strategic you could make it be. I hold for a long-term future. Then trade to gain some profit. In the process of trading and maybe the market seems to be volatile I usually use Dual Investment to get it done in other not to risk it

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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, holding does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.
A secure wallet is of course essential for investing in Bitcoin. 
When you buy Bitcoin the first thing you need is a secure wallet where your funds will be kept safe.
Money is the most important thing you must have for trading and investing, without money you can never invest. So for holding and trading or investing you need to save money first and buy bitcoins later. Then if you have bitcoins you can hold them for a long time and profit from them in the future.
When storing your bitcoins in a secure wallet, you must store them in a hardware or software wallet. Your bitcoins will be safe when you use these wallets. Moreover, if you want to keep your funds safe, you must keep your wallet keys in a safe place so that there is no chance of being hacked.

I do both. I think both come in handy but it depends on how strategic you could make it be. I hold for a long-term future. Then trade to gain some profit. In the process of trading and maybe the market seems to be volatile I usually use Dual Investment to get it done in other not to risk it
Yes, like you I do the both. I am holding and the same time trading. If I am confident with the coins I hold it for a long time then do a short trade with the other coins. I do hold BNB before and trade some alts like Ros, Sol, Ata and etc. Just set up Buy and sell, everything is well handled and easy transaction. then if I earn from the other alts I invested it on BNB and hold it.

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November 28, 2023, 03:28:57 PM
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People contradict trading and holding of coin or bitcoin, both things is of different things and I believe that when you are holding a coin is totally different from someone who is trading, in trading you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals whereas for holding for long term whenever the coin or market is bad to the extent that its depreciating in value you will notice instantly and you can equally convert it to a stablecoins so that you will not lose much, some people taught that holding of a coin and trading of a coin is the same thing but they don't know that they are totally a different thing.

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November 28, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
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Yes we all know that buying and hodling Bitcoin is the best but trading brings food to the table more faster than investing or hodling for a very long period before getting profits. Those who are very good trading can make that amount you are targeting in your investment within a year and it might even be double.

Hodling of Bitcoin and trading can never in one though all have their own risk and the most dangerous one which everyone knows is trading. If you can't face risk then you don't have to trade because there are some times you will be thinking that you are going to make profit from the trade but small mistake you do will just spoiled everything and you have to start from the beginning again. Buy and hodle will give you peace of mind. But trading you are always alert to do one thing or the other to make sure that the system is running.









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November 28, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
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Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
Investing or trading is thing of choice , the reason why people will always prefer hodling than trading is because trading us more risky than hodling.  In hodling what you just need to do is to understand the market  understanding the market is the only way people can make profit  from Bitcoin.  Learning trading is very broad , a lot of things needs to be known to make trading perfect and to get a better result from it. Because of the low risk when investing bitcoin people prefer hofling than trading.

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It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
Investing or trading is thing of choice , the reason why people will always prefer hodling than trading is because trading us more risky than hodling.  In hodling what you just need to do is to understand the market  understanding the market is the only way people can make profit  from Bitcoin.  Learning trading is very broad , a lot of things needs to be known to make trading perfect and to get a better result from it. Because of the low risk when investing bitcoin people prefer hofling than trading.

I agree, and moreover trading is not for everyone, it needs us to spend many times on it, while we don't invest much of our time for it, we just buy the coin and let it grow by itself, while as you said if we want to do trading we need to learn a lot of stuff, and we need to spend our time on it, most of us have a another 'normal' job' that demands more of our time.

And some (if not most) of us, crypto enthusiast wish that we could just leave our job and become a full-time trader, LOL.

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November 29, 2023, 03:50:46 AM
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Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
what is my point here is that depending in what coins are we talking about because if this is purely bitcoin
(given that this is Bitcoin section yet I will give my points in altcoins) then indeed that we are best for Holding because assuring
our safeties and profiting ? yes this is for bitcoin solely but it is not advisable for Trading specially in Daytrading .

But if this is altcoin , then yes better to focus in trading because they are fast moving and yes can generate income at some point









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November 29, 2023, 04:00:21 AM
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I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.

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November 29, 2023, 04:15:29 AM
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I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.
Many successful Bitcoin investors that I know also combine both trading and long term holding. The profits from trading, normally come very fast and also dissappear very fast, so what they do is to set aside some portion of their funds for long term holding and will gradually be adding on it from the profits of their trading.

I understand it takes huge discipline to be able to maintain both class of investment and not mix them up. In our interaction, some said how they were able to handle it is to ensure that no matter what happens, they will never transfer money from the long term investment to their trading account but can only transfer from the later to the former. And if they happen to blow their trading account, they will have to look for money elsewhere to fund the account. I think this formula is feasible.

Therefore, both trading and long term investment can be combined to achieve optimal returns.

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November 29, 2023, 04:17:14 AM
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if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

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November 29, 2023, 04:28:22 AM
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Quote from: Fuso.hp
I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.

If you can get it right to purchase your coins in a due season to apply a long holding on it, it will allow you to achieve a good income from your holding because there is no way the price of Bitcoin will remain low through out the year without allow short term holders and long term holders to smile. Once you are able to purchase the potential coins, it is your choice to trade if you are satisfy with the current price because nobody want to experience losses from his or her trading, which are some of the reasons why some traders don't trade their coins anyhow in the market. Based on some of the signs in the market, show that bullish season will soon come for those that want to trade their coins to get prepare for what will happen soon before they can trade to make passive income.

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November 29, 2023, 05:20:35 AM
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if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

I guess it's not easy to hold as long as you would stay realistic that you'll not expect you'll make a decent return in a short period of time.

When we are "HODLING", this implies that we are up to the long term game, so patience is very important in this journey because without it, we might feel the unsatisfation of waiting and could even result to panic if we witness a market dump and we didn't realize it's a normal thing for bitcoin and in the crypto market as a whole.

They keyword here is "HODL'..... Follow the meaning of that and you'll succeed.

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November 29, 2023, 06:53:52 AM
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People contradict trading and holding of coin or bitcoin, both things is of different things and I believe that when you are holding a coin is totally different from someone who is trading, in trading you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals whereas for holding for long term whenever the coin or market is bad to the extent that its depreciating in value you will notice instantly and you can equally convert it to a stablecoins so that you will not lose much, some people taught that holding of a coin and trading of a coin is the same thing but they don't know that they are totally a different thing.
Yes, holding or "hodl" and trading have a difference or are totally different, but I will disagree about "trading, you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals" because it still depends on the trader on how much he will lose or earn. In fact, just holding an asset or crypto coin could also cost you money if you enter a wrong position. Yes, they are both different things or different ways to earn money, but they both have the concept of losing money if you do wrong, if your analysis is wrong, or if your decision is wrong.

I do both holding assets and trading, holding bitcoin assets and some altcoins and waiting for a good moment or position to sell, while trading because, of course, holding is long-term, so it will take a quite time before I can earn from that, so I do trade for me to have earnings depending on my trading period.

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November 29, 2023, 08:31:07 AM
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if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

I guess it's not easy to hold as long as you would stay realistic that you'll not expect you'll make a decent return in a short period of time.

When we are "HODLING", this implies that we are up to the long term game, so patience is very important in this journey because without it, we might feel the unsatisfation of waiting and could even result to panic if we witness a market dump and we didn't realize it's a normal thing for bitcoin and in the crypto market as a whole.

They keyword here is "HODL'..... Follow the meaning of that and you'll succeed.

It doesn't really matter how you call that. It's kinda obvious that patience is important, it works for all investments. Short-term gains are for traders.
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November 29, 2023, 09:13:37 AM
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Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.


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