Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work

[Joeyp]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer. For example, fenbendazole from the thread &  webpage is anthelmintic drug used for animals - sheep, cattle, horses, fish, dogs, cats, rabbits, etc., not for humans. Cancer is very serious disease, and everyone need to seek doctor advice as fast as possible. And if there is some medicine, which can help, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member, which advertise something fake.
All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
Anthelmintic - drug against various internal parasites & worms - see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthelmintic

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[Rikafip]

Merit system has nothing to do with spreading false informations, nor is its job to stop it. Fyi, that member became Legendary long before merit system kicked in, and these kind of shitposters have much harder time to rank up thanks to the merit system.

Regarding BADecker, you will learn to ignore his nonsense like many of us did.

[yahoo62278]

So because that user is spreading misinformation the merit system doesn't work? What about the misinformation you are currently spreading? The merit system has its flaws, but overall it works just fine. You can't go just trusting what users post though as far as information goes. Always DYOR(Do Your Own Research).

[Nwada001]

All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

Because I'm in Snr. member rank today, that does not mean that you all should believe everything that comes out of my mouth. You are entitled to your own opinion, and you can also run your own research and discover what errors I have made or what lies I am trying to spread. My rank does not make me a perfect person.
 
Because you discover that the said member posted something that appears to be completely false does not make the merit system incorrect, and beside, before the merit system was introduced, I guess the member was already in legendary rank, and the 1000 merits that equal the user's legendary rank were airdropped. Another thing is that because you discovered an error in my post today, which you used to judge me, it does not mean I have not been making posts that were helpful and contributing in the past and are worth meriting.
 
Don't blame the merit system or someone else for what the person did wrong; always direct the attack directly at the person who deserves it. You can just ignore the user, as suggested above, if you receive anything from the account as a force or rumors.

[SamReomo]

All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
Anthelmintic - drug against various internal parasites & worms - see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthelmintic

It has nothing to do with the merit system and I think you are wrong as well. BADecker's information is not inaccurate because the same drug Fenbendazole has shown anti-cancer properties on humans. You should do your research perfectly before making such posts. The drug is basically a anthelmintic drug but it has shown some anti-cancer properties as well.

You should visit the link below and then you will find that BADecker's information isn't false and some research has been done on that thing by other doctors as well.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/fenbendazole-cancer-tom-rogers-md

Fenbendazole has been around since 1974 and is used worldwide. In addition to killing parasites, it has been found to be effective as an anti-cancer agent. Note: I have seen it used in patients with great results, with virtually no side effects. Remember, there’s no medicine in the world that doesn’t have a possible side effect.

[digaran]

You mean this legend?

That's not our fault, before Satoshi even release Bitcoin, BADecker was here posting such stuff.😉

[Stalker22]

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All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

The merit system was introduced to put the brakes on shitposters moving up the ranks on here.  It was never meant to be some kind of fact-checking mechanism.  

Take you for instance - before we had merits, you would  probably be on your way to Sr Member already by now!  so I would say the merit system is working just how it should.

Anyway, how much merit did that post even get from the higher-ranked members? None!

[digaran]

This doctor from the link also spreading fake information. If there are some medicine, which can help against cancer, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member or doctor, which advertise something fake, like animal medicine. Just try to get medicine degree in the university, and then you will understand.

Hey doc, why don't you say these stuff over there? If it's misinformation/ false, go there and prove him wrong by providing your evidence, imagine you are a moderator of medicine related topics, lets see if you can enlighten the minds of people reading your counter arguments, meta is not the place for this discussion, so please if you like, you can lock this and continue over there.

[SamReomo]

This doctor from the link also spreading fake information. If there are some medicine, which can help against cancer, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member or doctor, which advertise something fake, like animal medicine. Just try to get medicine degree in the university, and then you will understand.

First of all, I recommend you to learn proper quoting in this forum before saying such things and when it comes to medicine degree then I must tell you that I'm a pharmacist by profession and I'm currently working in health sector. The research on that drug's anti-cancer activity is going on for sometime and it will take sometime before it'll be officially recognized as a anti-cancer drug. I think you really don't understand medicine deeply and that's why you're saying such things.

When it comes to research then I can surely say that there has been some research on this drug's anti-cancer properties and you'll have to read those researches yourself. Once you read those researches then you'll understand that the doctors or someone else who's saying something about the anti-cancer properties of this drug aren't spreading fake information.

I will include some links of the researches that has been done on this drug and when you read those researches then you'll understand that the drug has shown some anti-cancer properties in those researches. I hope that after reading those articles you'll understand that research is already being done on that drug and there are some chances that in future we may see it in the list of anti-cancer drugs when enough researches show its anti-cancer properties.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-30158-6

https://aacrjournals.org/cancerres/article/82/12_Supplement/2313/701049/Abstract-2313-Fenbendazole-induces-cell-cycle

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468294222000910

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9437363/

[Smartvirus]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work.

It’s a good thing you know something about medicine (Anthelmintic drug) which I don’t even know what that is but, you need to learn something about generalization like the sort you did in that quote and affirming something that haven’t got any relativism with merit system to merits.

You can’t try or hope to make something right by using the wrong moves. Maybe I can’t tell you anything about Anthelmintic drug but, I can tell you that you’re wrong on the part where you have to generalize legendary members to be spreading fake news. That’s, false.
The merit system only rewards quality posts and that’s just about it. It doesn’t decide on what’s true or not and it only tells the perspective of a person and that’s the one meriting. Get over it:

Also, you could as well note that, not all you see on the internet is true. Choose what you would believe after doing proper research to it and pass on the rest.

[nakamura12]

Just because there's a merit system doesn't mean a forum member's post is correct or it isn't fake/false information that is being posted here in the forum. Merit system is used to reward forum members who posted good/high quality posts that deserves a merit and merit is also needed by forum members who aren't legendary yet to be able to rank up. If there's a newbie who only wnats to rank up and didn't even bother to post high quality post won't be able to rank up at all.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

1. Just because someone has a legendary rank here does not mean they are Knowledge in all fields. Even a member with a newbie rank can correct a member with a legendary rank. This is just a forum rank not a knowledge rank

2. Merit spending is subjective. Someone can receive 400 merits for posts that are just from art contests, fun etc. and not necessarily knowledge sharing. So how do you end up saying that the merit system does not work?
The aim of the merit system was to fight spam, and it worked just fine.

[SmartGold01]

Everyone must not give accurate information in this forum the ability for you to do your research matters alot and you should also do your findings without relying on the people who shares it, that is why the forum mostly required some user that are sharing information to also include source link. Have you checked on the rank to know if it was airdropped to the user to go this far in rank, and most times those where airdropped never knew how hard it's to have a credible rank like Hero or Legendary rank. But however not every Legend are low poster as you may described them and the merits has nothing to do here besides you don't need to point out to someone who doesn't have a deep knowledge in that area of study.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Merit system has nothing to do with spreading false informations, nor is its job to stop it. Fyi, that member became Legendary long before merit system kicked in, and these kind of shitposters have much harder time to rank up thanks to the merit system.

OP, I second this.  I had to check when BADecker registered on the forum, and it was way before the merit system came into existence.  For the time he's been an active member here, he actually hasn't earned many merits at all.  Assuming he was already Legendary in January 2018, he would've been airdropped 1000 merits as did every Legendary member when Theymos created the system. 

In other words, his posts aren't very popular and the merit system wouldn't have been able to suppress his nonsense anyway.

First of all, I recommend you to learn proper quoting in this forum before saying such things and when it comes to medicine degree then I must tell you that I'm a pharmacist by profession and I'm currently working in health sector.

No kidding!  Why did I never know that?  We could probably have long conversations, even if we live in different countries (which I'm unsure of).  And I know of at least one doctor here (o_e_l_e_o) who would be able to debunk any medical claims falsely made by BADecker or anyone else.

This forum is all about freedom of speech, OP.  If someone writes bullshit, you just have to counter it with facts or ridicule and let the community judge for themselves what to believe.  The merit system has nothing to do with any of this.

[SamReomo]

No kidding!  Why did I never know that?  We could probably have long conversations, even if we live in different countries (which I'm unsure of).  And I know of at least one doctor here (o_e_l_e_o) who would be able to debunk any medical claims falsely made by BADecker or anyone else.

We can have long conversations if those are related to drugs because as a pharmacist it would be a pleasure for me to have conversation with someone having same background. It's first time I'm hearing that o_e_l_e_o is a doctor and I'm happy to know that we have some people from health department on this forum. I have never said anything about my profession before because I thought that it would be totally off-topic for Bitcointalk members, but today the OP left me no choice and that's why I had to share details about my profession.

I'm proud to say that I'm a pharmacist and I'm proud to say that I'm a member of this amazing forum. I have been serving as a hospital pharmacist for more than two years now and I think we can have great discussions about drugs or our profession which could be helpful for both of us. We can also have conversations related to our field in the form of private messages and it'll be a pleasure for me to learn something from a senior pharmacist like you. I'll be eagerly waiting for o_e_l_e_o's reply so we may get some better information about Fenbendazole's anti-cancer activity.

[philipma1957]

So because that user is spreading misinformation the merit system doesn't work? What about the misinformation you are currently spreading? The merit system has its flaws, but overall it works just fine. You can't go just trusting what users post though as far as information goes. Always DYOR(Do Your Own Research).

personally badecker is fucking nuts and writes nonsense on a constant basis.

The op is not aware that BADecker is like a class clown 🤡. I have no issues that he started this thread.

At op good work you spotted one of the forum’s nuttiest people.

NotBatman had a crazy flat earth thread going for a long time.

[Distinctin]

It appears there might be a slight misunderstanding regarding how the merit system works. Merits aren't solely based on a single post's content, and they can accumulate gradually over time. If the poster has contributed positively in the past (I haven't personally verified this), that could explain why they've received merits. Once merits have been awarded for past contributions, they typically can't be revoked, even if a misleading or incorrect post surfaces. That's the fundamental principle, my friend.

Now, it seems your concern doesn't necessarily pertain to the merit system, but rather to the reputation system. Keep in mind that a member's rank doesn't always correlate with their reputation. A Full member might have a better reputation than a Legendary member who has received negative feedback. So, exercise caution when making judgments, and it would be wise to familiarize yourself more with how the forum functions.

If you believe the poster is indeed spreading false information, you could consider providing negative feedback. However, it might not be immediately visible, especially if you're not part of the DT members. If the DT members find your concerns reasonable, they may assist in flagging the account as well. These are just potential scenarios, as accounts and posts usually require investigation before making the appropriate action.

[philipma1957]

It appears there might be a slight misunderstanding regarding how the merit system works. Merits aren't solely based on a single post's content, and they can accumulate gradually over time. If the poster has contributed positively in the past (I haven't personally verified this), that could explain why they've received merits. Once merits have been awarded for past contributions, they typically can't be revoked, even if a misleading or incorrect post surfaces. That's the fundamental principle, my friend.

Now, it seems your concern doesn't necessarily pertain to the merit system, but rather to the reputation system. Keep in mind that a member's rank doesn't always correlate with their reputation. A Full member might have a better reputation than a Legendary member who has received negative feedback. So, exercise caution when making judgments, and it would be wise to familiarize yourself more with how the forum functions.

If you believe the poster is indeed spreading false information, you could consider providing negative feedback. However, it might not be immediately visible, especially if you're not part of the DT members. If the DT members find your concerns reasonable, they may assist in flagging the account as well. These are just potential scenarios, as accounts and posts usually require investigation before making the appropriate action.

I opened a new thread 🧵 I suggested badecker get the legendary troll designation for his designation.

It would be well deserved.

[libert19]

Whether information is right or wrong is subjective, plus what's right today, could be wrong tomorrow and vice versa. We see this happening all the time in research fields.

Guy you talk about was airdropped 1k merits (just taking it from prior comments, haven't checked myself), even if that weren't be the case, his merit could have been attained by his ideas in different subjects, that doesn't make him proficient in anything. Even professionals make mistakes in their field of expertise.

[Distinctin]

It appears there might be a slight misunderstanding regarding how the merit system works. Merits aren't solely based on a single post's content, and they can accumulate gradually over time. If the poster has contributed positively in the past (I haven't personally verified this), that could explain why they've received merits. Once merits have been awarded for past contributions, they typically can't be revoked, even if a misleading or incorrect post surfaces. That's the fundamental principle, my friend.

Now, it seems your concern doesn't necessarily pertain to the merit system, but rather to the reputation system. Keep in mind that a member's rank doesn't always correlate with their reputation. A Full member might have a better reputation than a Legendary member who has received negative feedback. So, exercise caution when making judgments, and it would be wise to familiarize yourself more with how the forum functions.

If you believe the poster is indeed spreading false information, you could consider providing negative feedback. However, it might not be immediately visible, especially if you're not part of the DT members. If the DT members find your concerns reasonable, they may assist in flagging the account as well. These are just potential scenarios, as accounts and posts usually require investigation before making the appropriate action.

I opened a new thread 🧵 I suggested badecker get the legendary troll designation for his designation.

It would be well deserved.

Sounds intriguing, my friend. I'll definitely drop by, and who knows, maybe that'll get badecker to check out your thread. Let's see what he's got to say.