Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work

[un_rank]

back in the day the ignore button under a users name would glow bright yellow when that user was ignored by members.. the more people that ignored them the brighter the word ignore glowed.

so bring it back. it did serve a purpose, like warning unwary people that that person is likely a nutter. might help in matters like this.

This is the first time I am hearing of this. It seems like a very easy way to tell people that many other users find posts by someone upsetting and chose not to see them; you might want to consider doing so after going through their posts.

I really do not understand why such a feature will be removed. I understand there is a desire by the admins to not want to create prejudice around certain users like with the trust display, so it does not change the public perception of them. But at some point we have to stop prioritizing the feelings of the trolls or scammers.

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[philipma1957]

The merit systems works, we see less crap on the forum because of the merit system. Prior to the introduction of the merit system, anyone could build their account to legendary rank without doing any real work or make any positive contribution. They could just jargons and rank up, some high rank accounts of today are from the old system and the owners may not be as knowledgeable on bitcoin as the rank suggests. In this case, the user made the post in off topic board, I rarely visit there because it has nothing to do with bitcoin. You shouldn’t be so worked up about it, an expert in bitcoin could also be a noob in medicine or politics. 

yeah it is less than perfect but I estimate it reduced crap by at least 50%.

Trying to let free speech flourish is hard to do.  That's why keeping guys like bedecked around is fine with me.  And turnabout is fair play calling him a legendary troll would be free speech right back at him.

[As-Soon-As]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer. For example, fenbendazole from the thread &  webpage is anthelmintic drug used for animals - sheep, cattle, horses, fish, dogs, cats, rabbits, etc., not for humans. Cancer is very serious disease, and everyone need to seek doctor advice as fast as possible. And if there is some medicine, which can help, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member, which advertise something fake.
All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
Anthelmintic - drug against various internal parasites & worms - see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthelmintic

Rank does not depend on a person giving information or giving sound advice. Because I saw in forum rules that merit system has come since 2017. But in the past he has improved in rank based on posts. So I want to say that I am a new member so I can't give proper advice of course (everyone wants to give proper information you can also). But the information I give must be expressed by you, so if there is a mistake here, other people must correct it. Because I don't see any argument that a person of high status should give correct information. Because later those who have registered in this forum must be knowledgeable otherwise they could not have improved their rank. If you also publish information contrary to what a person would provide then of course the unique audience will judge which is correct and those in high status positions like moderators, DT1, DT2, and unique know-how must keep in monitoring.

[goxcraft]

How one usage their sMerit is completely up to them. You cannot say merit system is useless based on some fake threads. Member rank and merits is two different thing. And being legendary doesn't mean you are all known. A simple sr or hero member can know more then a legendary member. If you think, someone is spreading fake news, then report that to the moderator. I'm sure they will take action. You don't need to create a thread for this. Don't just blame the whole merit system for one man's deed. I'm sure you understand what I mean.

[Rruchi man]

All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

You only gave one example of one topic and one legendary member. There are many other legendary members in this forum who dedicate their time to only sharing correct information and not involving themselves in discussions that they do not know much about. The number of these kind of legendary members far outnumber the unconcerned ones sharing wrong information and talking on topics where they have little knowledge.

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer.

It is possible the merits were gotten from other topics and discussions where they shared correct information that was helpful.

Don't judge all the legendary members and fault the merit system based on the actions of one legendary ranked member.

[shahzadafzal]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer. For example, fenbendazole from the thread &  webpage is anthelmintic drug used for animals - sheep, cattle, horses, fish, dogs, cats, rabbits, etc., not for humans. Cancer is very serious disease, and everyone need to seek doctor advice as fast as possible. And if there is some medicine, which can help, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member, which advertise something fake.
All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
Anthelmintic - drug against various internal parasites & worms - see here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthelmintic

Let me first understand what you really want to say? Please correct if I misunderstood, so your main points are:

- Fenbendazole is not for humans and it's used for animals?
- Legendary members spread fake information
- Meri system don't work

Ok so now I must read what BADecker is saying in topic?

- Potential use of Fenbendazole and Ivermectin, as a combined treatment for cancer
- BADecker questioning why there's no more medical research and investigation into this potential treatment
- Fenbendazole is not approved by the FDA
- Benzimidazole have been used for many years to treat parasitic infections in humans and livestock.

Now your main Subject Legendary Members Spread Completely Fake Information - Merit System Do Not Work

How is this all related to Legendary Members and Merit System, you must confusing or mixing some other topic or points with this. right? Anyway I will ignore these but they have nothing to do with your post or his posts.

Ok I see your point or rather let say a claim is Fenbendazole is not safe and is not for human but you didn't provide any proof or source for you claim.

I would say to me the the poster (BADecker) didn't try to promote a drug at all, he just put some references and links that suggest or rather questioning why there is no medical testing about these two drugs as a combination for a cancer treatment.

[Sandra_hakeem]

You're entitled to what you believe when you read through the forum ...I can't assure anyone about having 100% authenticity of everything they read in here... It's imperative that you make wider research on your findings in here as that can broaden your initials on the said subject and deduce the tendency of misinformation.
It ain't got nothing to do with the merit system though, I understand how you may be thinking.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[Franctoshi]

The rate of success that has been achieved with the merit system since introduction is higher when compared to the rate of wrong usage of it, and never expect it to work 100% in the sense that no matter how good a system is, so far, there are humans involved, there is always a small percentage chance that they'll tend to abuse it, and it will seem to be the system's fault and that's just the fact with your view about the system right now, so for me there is nothing the merit system has to do with this shit posting.

Lastly, despite the fact that the ranking system makes it seem like the higher rank members are more experienced in the forum, pay more attention to the quality of information they spread or covey.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I have been serving as a hospital pharmacist for more than two years now and I think we can have great discussions about drugs or our profession which could be helpful for both of us.

Hell yeah!!  I could never stand retail pharmacy, and my best years were as a hospital pharmacist.  Now this is a rare situation, because I've only met one other person in the profession and he did or still does work for a chain pharmacy.  Most do, I suspect--but I also suspect 90% of them are miserable.  In the hospital setting you actually put your brain and education to use.  Way off topic but I'm gonna hop back on right now:

Guy you talk about was airdropped 1k merits (just taking it from prior comments, haven't checked myself), even if that weren't be the case, his merit could have been attained by his ideas in different subjects, that doesn't make him proficient in anything. Even professionals make mistakes in their field of expertise.

But it was the case, and the point is that BADecker didn't earn 1000 of the merits that he has, nor did I.  I was just illustrating the fact that it would appear to newcomers or those who don't know about how the merit system started that he earned far more merits for his posts than he actually did, and that would lead some to assume that more people agree with his ramblings than is actually the case.

Yes, professionals make mistakes all the time.  That goes along with being human, and except for the AI-posting lunatics we've got polluting the forum we're all in that same boat.

You only gave one example of one topic and one legendary member.

Don't judge all the legendary members and fault the merit system based on the actions of one legendary ranked member.

Hear, hear.

[Woodie]

As much as the merit system has been brought in the spotlight, this thread did not get any merits for it .
And the fact that the OP isn't a medical doctor either (by assumption) this should mean the OP was simply expressing their opinion and not giving expert advice , hence DYOR to get facts or seek medical advice in relation to the topic. Btw, that's why medical doctors actually discourage self prescription because there is so much information out there which is good & bad and an ordinary person won't sieve out the bad information and we are advised to see a doc.

And with this, we have to appreciate how the forum is structured to allow users to express their opinions freely , BCT is the place to be #true_freedom

BADecker only writes in the Politics and Society section. Personally, I have not read any of his posts outside of this section. I am surprised if he is only interested in politics, why does he choose the Bitcoin forum to post in?

Probably that's the board he finds his strength and joy, like some users only post in mining or Bitcoin technical support or  gambling for instance etcetera

[SamReomo]

Hell yeah!!  I could never stand retail pharmacy, and my best years were as a hospital pharmacist.
In the hospital setting you actually put your brain and education to use.

In retail pharmacy you're free and you provide guidance to many people about drugs but in that field most of the pharmacists are for revenue purpose I guess, but as a hospital pharmacist we basically help people with our education and support them with drugs for free as the drugs are funded by government. I'm quite sure the hospital pharmacists are doing the same thing all over the world.

Man, retail pharmacy is also a good job I guess because there are less restrictions in that area and we can have some rest every once in a while but as hospital pharmacists we'll have to serve patients at hospital. Sometimes a hospital pharmacist has to serve patients on festival days when the hospitals are officially off, but the emergency work is always there for hospital pharmacists. Let's discuss further about it in PM as it's going somewhat off-topic here!

All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

You only gave one example of one topic and one legendary member. There are many other legendary members in this forum who dedicate their time to only sharing correct information and not involving themselves in discussions that they do not know much about. The number of these kind of legendary members far outnumber the unconcerned ones sharing wrong information and talking on topics where they have little knowledge.

Well, that's true and basically the merit system was implemented to ward-off the account farmers and spammers and it has nothing to do with a member's rank. The ones who receive air-dropped merits were basically active members of the forum before the merit system was implemented and the received those air-dropped merits as reward for their presence and activity on the forum.

The OP seems to be highly against the merit system but he/she doesn't know that how good the merit system is and how much it improved the forum. It's because of the merit system the account farming stopped otherwise we might still had so many account farmers who would be posting useless spam or 1 liner posts in order to rank their accounts up. Ah, actually in present days they wouldn't be doing that spamming themselves but set a number of bots that might be doing that shit for them.

[Winterfrost]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.

Did you say its useless? Or you saying those who implemented the merit system do not know what they are doing?. Please do not say that unless you have quality proof to back up what you are saying. Previously it was so easy to rank up, all you need was some good number of activities ad boom your moving to the next rank. That means if you have about 1k to 2k activities in a week you probably could be a legendary member in a week.

The main reason for the merit system is unique and its proven to be functionable. It has helped reduce the high number of shit posting, regulate the merit ranking to system to the individual local boards and so many other good benefits. I think you should read a little history of the merit system of the forum, ill share the link and I hope you find it helpful to convince you that the merit system still works.

History of bitcointalk's ranking system

[Sexylizzy2813]

Legendary members spread completely fake information - merit system do not work. For example - this thread in Off-topic section - FENBENDAZOLE and CANCER – at least 12 anti-cancer mechanisms of action..
First of all, this legendary member with more than 1350 merits can try to get the medicine degree, before spreading complete fake information in the forum about cancer. For example, fenbendazole from the thread &  webpage is anthelmintic drug used for animals - sheep, cattle, horses, fish, dogs, cats, rabbits, etc., not for humans. Cancer is very serious disease, and everyone need to seek doctor advice as fast as possible. And if there is some medicine, which can help, there are clinical trials and official recognition, not just webpage or legendary member, which advertise something fake.
All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
Anthelmintic - drug against various internal parasites & worms - see here -

OP, where are you driving at?
Because from what you're saying, you're complaining about the information that was given wasn't solid or true about cancer, that's ok. Why not stick to that and concentrate on that issue, I don't know what the merit system has to do with this FAKE INFORMATION.
If you feel the merit system isn't working or whatever you feel about it, just open a new thread and give us what you have observed about it, because to me this isn't getting anywhere. First you said a legendary member gave a fake information and  merit system doesn't work, I still can't get how they both connect OP.

[Eureka_07]

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All this is evidence that merit system do not work and is useless.
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I truly appreciate and commend your commitment to combatting misinformation, especially in health-related topics. However, as some other members have already pointed out, the merit system was not designed for these matters and is, therefore, irrelevant. Have you considered the possibility of applying demerits in such cases? If not, it means that, for now, no users can receive demerits. We should also be mindful not to believe everything we read; it is everyone's responsibility.
So to conclude, your claim that the forum's merit system is useless, is not valid. I hope you understand that. Once again, kudos for your concern; I have great respect for people like you.

If you ever come across misinformation, please don't hesitate to report the post. Moderators will review it on your behalf.

[bitnote]

So because that user is spreading misinformation the merit system doesn't work? What about the misinformation you are currently spreading? The merit system has its flaws, but overall it works just fine. You can't go just trusting what users post though as far as information goes. Always DYOR(Do Your Own Research).

personally badecker is fucking nuts and writes nonsense on a constant basis.

The op is not aware that BADecker is like a class clown 🤡. I have no issues that he started this thread.

At op good work you spotted one of the forum’s nuttiest people.

NotBatman had a crazy flat earth thread going for a long time.

He also has a neutral trust from Icopress for spreading false statements/misinformation. Thanks for letting me know there are crazy people out there on the forum.
One more thing about shitposters is that there is a stake campaign running that only allows shitposters to post high number of posts per week. Most of these shitposters spread spam without much research to complete their post count.

[Justbillywitt]

You don't use one mistake or false information he/she shared about cancer and question the merit system that has been established and adopted by a reputable forum like bitcointalk.org. You don't make an unverified accusation. You don't generalize things, learn to be specific on a particular person you are dealing with. So how do you balance your claim with those that has thousands of merits that has been sharing helpful and credible information here in the forum, since you are saying the merit system doesn't work?

[Pmalek]

@Joeyp
Actually, the merit system works really well, and also the overall community response to that thread was positive. He didn't receive a single merit for it, proving that no one thinks it's a quality contribution. And absolutely no one, besides yourself, posted in that thread to either support or show opposition to his claims. Everything is as it should. 

[JollyGood]

So because that user is spreading misinformation the merit system doesn't work? What about the misinformation you are currently spreading? The merit system has its flaws, but overall it works just fine. You can't go just trusting what users post though as far as information goes. Always DYOR(Do Your Own Research).

I think the OP has ulterior motives for creating this thread therefore I would not bother giving him attention beyond this post. In total he has made 36 posts after he created this thread yet he did not post here again. He seems to be trying to make a name for himself by attention-seeking but his plans have now ended because his last login was on the same day as when he received a negative tag.

Because of legendary member Stalker22, which gave me negative trust, project is stopped. So forum members had the possibility to earn 1 Bitcoin, which is $34800, and now they will get nothing.

I noticed the OP some weeks ago because he was posting in threads and boards that usually do not attract newbies unless they are alt-accounts pretending to be newbies. To me, it was quite clear he was trying to get a higher rank and that was probably to achieve a nefarious end.

The OP has given up on trying build his Joeyp account therefore he will concentrate on his other accounts and this time will probably stay away from the Reputation and Meta boards as well as will avoid using any of his accounts to scam at least until they seem trustworthy.

[Rikafip]

Hah, I didn't know that this topic is still alive.

I think the OP has ulterior motives for creating this thread therefore I would not bother giving him attention beyond this post.

While I aggree that he doesn't deserve attention that he is getting, I disagree on ulterior motive part. This topic is reult of OP's ignorance, and its not the only nonse topic that he created in these last few months since he registered here.

[Sexylizzy2813]

While I aggree that he doesn't deserve attention that he is getting, I disagree on ulterior motive part. This topic is reult of OP's ignorance, and its not the only nonse topic that he created in these last few months since he registered here.

The OP is trying to say something and at the same time he's getting the whole issue mixed up.
I think he's having a bad day with the merit system and at the same time a legendary member with a topic that has fake information (so he said). My question is why didn't the OP just drop his opinion on that or ignore the post relating to the fake cancer information and move on? Or if he's having issues with whatever he's pointing at why not go straight to the main issue that bothering him? And the merit system doesn't work, how?🤔