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[AmoreJaz]

An isolated case in mu opinion but I do wonder what kind of game it is ‘coz there’s a schedule for that game. Also, since this is a landbased casino, or the agent is more likely affiliated with a casino, then the player could just go directly to it concerning agent’s misconduct. If it is comparison between landbased and gambling sites even with good reputation, gambling sites could turn to a fraud if they would want to especially for a really huge amount, with ease. Think of how many online casinos are being acused and reported as fraudalent; reason is not all online platforms are registered to any government, making it easy for people behind it to hide their identity. Given that both has risks for the same concern, we just cannot help its occurence so better be preventive of the amount you would engage to any platform.

that is true, we can't conclude in general what may happen to offline betting shops. this doesn't happen to all of them, as you said, such situation is an isolated case and we don't know the reasons behind such hiding. such similar situation may also happen to online bookies, if the bookie itself is running low or has no enough bankroll or just don't want to pay their winning bettor. they can run away as well or better yet, ban or block your account esp those known bookies with unresolved cases.

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[SOKO-DEKE]

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

I have also witnessed cases like this before where agents ran away with people's money, but the truth is that they find many of them because the person who played the game can go and report the case to the bet headquarters. And in that case, the bet company will look for gents to pay their customers because before any person opens the bet shop under any bet company, the person must drop their documents. But the best reason to be on the safer side is to get your account online. So only always control everything yourself. As for my gain, I don't even like to bet on shops but only on my bet account, and all this is for personal security because if someone wins a large amount of money on a shop, people will get notifications easily.

[Adbitco]

They can't run to anywhere if that betting shop is a registered and licensed one, I can recall a similar case like that when someone win's huge amount of money and yet to be cashed out, immediately the owner of the shop decided to leave. I mean he closed his shop and never opened for some days what they did was to report the agent to officially site and the block his account not to withdraw any amount until he goes to the head office with the winners by then those gamblers were asked to come with their betting slips to know how much each everyone that bet in his units won and lastly everyone took their money.

Then bounce back to online gambling, well I can't say they are not trusted and reliable but most times when you have a better chances of winning higher amount those casino operators can easily suspect a fault or scam attempt to lock your account after which you would written for several times but won't be opened instead they will open their ToS especially the ones in their favor to make them confiscate your funds without you getting any even after submitting several kyc. I think I have came across issues like this at the scam accusation board.

[Davidvictorson]

This is quite weird. Well the owner of the shop ks the one going to bear the brunt and not the customer who had won the money. This case doesn't even concern the customer and if the owner decides pay up, the customer can seek legal action.

Another reason why you should carry out a proper background check before employing anyone. We do not just deal with gambling addicts, also deal with thieves in physical sports bookies.

[Stable090]

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

Then the gambler should just complain to the gambling site and hear the response that they will give. The gambling company should be held responsible for not having a reputable agent, and I'm sure the company is going to have more information about the agent that can be used to track him down, maybe his permanent home address or other information. I don’t just like visiting gambling shops to gamble for so many reasons. If you gamble in a physical gambling shop and you win, then you are not safe, you can be tracked and robbed. But if you gamble online, nobody knows the amount of money you win and you can’t be tracked.
 
I know both online and physical gambling have advantages and disadvantages, but I still prefer gambling online to visiting gambling shops. But some people find it boring whenever they are alone gambling, they prefer to gamble where there is a crowd.

[famososMuertos]

Well, this first of all has a cultural, village aspect, that is, in the 21st century this exists in many places, people like to bet, and the social, economic and technological conditions do not prevent it, as long as there is someone willing to bet. To make a bet, you only need a table and the game of chance on it, that's all.

I don't know what's strange about this news (story) it's something that happens, then, if the site is illegal, there is no possible claim before the legal entities, you would end up in prison for playing on illegal sites, if it is legal, they will pay you whenever they want, then the moral is, you are so addicted to a bet to avoid making it in a seedy place...

In fact, I mentioned that these types of places exist in towns far from the main cities, but the reality is that "the table and the game of chance on it" can be found even in the best hotel room in Las Vegas, So regardless of the luxury of the table, if you are somewhere betting, your safety and the money you bet are associated with the common sense of the place where you put your ass on that table and the game of chance on it.

There are dangers everywhere, we are not exempt, but we must minimize the risks associated with payments and our own physical security, those two variables are not so difficult to follow, the variance in each bet is already "fk" us, so reduce it to just random for each bet you make, and try to ensure that the physical space and those who pay you are reliable.

[Odohu]

I understand that gambling shops are popular in some parts of the world like Africa and Eastern Europe... people visit these shops to place their bet via agents of the big casinos and betting companies. A good percentage of those who patronise these shops are the elderly and less educated people who do not know how to go about registering and playing online. So they are constrained to patronise these shops.

Just like the experience you narrated, the risk of gambling in these shops is high and I have seen a couple of times where the agents ran away especially when there is a major winning.

The best they can do is to report to the police, who will take a very long time to find the agent who would have ghosted to a very interior village or probably travelled abroad.

[Latviand]

Just because of this one incident happening doesn't mean that your claim that you can't trust gambling houses that have agents, it's just that the business that hired that agent didn't do their due diligence of investigating the person before hiring them. The only saving grace to the situation that you're talking about would be that the owner would still pay the person and conduct an investigation to arrest or apprehend the agent.

Another reason why you should carry out a proper background check before employing anyone. We do not just deal with gambling addicts, also deal with thieves in physical sports bookies.

That's what I thought too, background checks does wonders although given the limited information, it's safe to also assume that the gambling shop did their due diligence of background check and this was just the moment that the agent finally found the price for selling his soul/dignity.

[Bitcoin_people]

A reputable gambling site will never cheat any gambler like this. Maybe the casino you mentioned is a scam site where a player doesn't pay the money when they lose but runs away with the money. Did the gambler complain to the law about the agent? 
If that is the case I think he will never get his money back from the agent as he has run away and is not easy to catch. But if such a gambling platform treats the players in this way then the casino will never survive and will be shut down within few days. Moreover, I think it is better not to bet on such gambling sites, because online casinos pay the most nowadays. And there are very few platform scams if go to good online gambling sites and bet, players are never scammed by those agents but pay their winnings.

[lienfaye]

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

Well, it can also happen even in online casinos. They can hold your winnings, accuse a gambler of cheating or breaking a certain rules (even it's not the case). Therefore regardless where you gamble, the risk is always there.

BUT this can only happen if the casino or betting shop are shady or they're real scammers. People who run their business legitimately won't dare to ruin their names since it's not easy to build a good reputation. In agent's shop, if the workers run away with the money, the owner must pay it since it's his/her responsibility. Moreover it's partly his fault by hiring a dishonest workers.

[Accardo]

I understand that gambling shops are popular in some parts of the world like Africa and Eastern Europe... people visit these shops to place their bet via agents of the big casinos and betting companies. A good percentage of those who patronise these shops are the elderly and less educated people who do not know how to go about registering and playing online. So they are constrained to patronise these shops.

A good number of knowledgeable players use these shops to stake games. Mostly for virtual games. The interesting thing about gambling shop is the social activities. Some gamblers would want to discuss with other like minds. It's fun. But, these mistakes is what keeps most people like myself away from gambling shops. Although, while in the shop the agent can pay cash, or convince the winner to come the next day. I think the agent used such technique to dismiss the player. Then made his moves to wherever he is today. Leaving behind the gambler. Since nobody helps them in booking the game, then most of them are learned people. Managing such a business is not easy. It requires a high management skill. A lot of gambling shops crumble, and they'll be waiting for a big win, boom rug-pull. He can't take giving out huge amount to his customer and remain with no fund. Adding that the money came through him. You see, these agents have a plan B. Some will shut down and never pop up again, while others can be opening from time to time. Reasonable agents while away work hard to replenish their customer, such as to open their shop again. Volatility can happen in their business, and not being able to hold the money and utilize it well, can be a problem when a huge amount is meant to be paid to a winner. I know they have their own profits, each play. With good business strategy, they'll have enough left to take care of wins, without feeling like stealing it. 

Above all, the agent should be penalized by the company. Their moves affect negatively the reputation of the gambling platform. If some shop survive the business, and see great profits through it. I think those who have difficulty managing such a business, know little about the business. Before setting it up. Some rush to hire multiple staff, which managing them would be another expenses. So, while using gambling shops, we need to know who we're going to their shop. Whether they have good reputation and history.

[Odohu]

I understand that gambling shops are popular in some parts of the world like Africa and Eastern Europe... people visit these shops to place their bet via agents of the big casinos and betting companies. A good percentage of those who patronise these shops are the elderly and less educated people who do not know how to go about registering and playing online. So they are constrained to patronise these shops.

A good number of knowledgeable players use these shops to stake games. Mostly for virtual games. The interesting thing about gambling shop is the social activities. Some gamblers would want to discuss with other like minds. It's fun.

I agree with you regarding the social activities and fun part of the gambling shops. Just like you said, VFL is one aspect of gambling that is booming and mostly played in the shops even though it is also played online.
However, that does not remove the part that majority of those who actually gamble in these shops are the least educated and probably the elderly. I have visited such shops on several occasions just for the fun part of it but even while in the shop I gamble with my phone online. I replied you just to make this clarifications so that we are on the same page.

[uneng]

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

Well, it can also happen even in online casinos. They can hold your winnings, accuse a gambler of cheating or breaking a certain rules (even it's not the case). Therefore regardless where you gamble, the risk is always there.

BUT this can only happen if the casino or betting shop are shady or they're real scammers. People who run their business legitimately won't dare to ruin their names since it's not easy to build a good reputation. In agent's shop, if the workers run away with the money, the owner must pay it since it's his/her responsibility. Moreover it's partly his fault by hiring a dishonest workers.

It's really unlikely you are going to face any issues when playing at a popular and reputable online casino and sportsbook, if you are a legit player. The chances of being scammed are much higher when playing at those physical shops, as the public is limited and the house doesn't have much influence and popularity, so it's more likely they have nothing to lose when scamming players, while a global platform dealing with thousands of gamblers from every corners in the world will be very careful when denying a payment to a winner, since they have much more to lose through a single mistake that may cost their entire base of customers.

[Pandu Geddon]

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

however it depends on the gambler himself. like offline casinos, it gives a different playing sensation to every gambler. meet lots of people, chat about anything, and drink. There is a sensation when you go to an offline gambling place that of course you won't get when you play online.
I'm sure the experience you described occurred at an illegal gambling place. It would be different if you played in a legal place and situationally it would make the gambler happy.

every gambler has their preferences. although for me personally, online gambling is more comfortable for me who doesn't really like crowds.

[Wexnident]

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Don't these kinds of "shops" have a registration or something? Well at least in mine, registrations are required at a certain point, and considering this was related to gambling, I would've reckoned that they needed said permits to continue their business. Even if there wasn't any, you'd usually see some contracts restricting the agent from being able to just run away willy-nilly from their customers in the blink of an eye, otherwise, no one would trust these said agents(regardless if the one was at fault was the owner/manager/employee). I'd partly blame the customer here really.

I haven't really personally experienced using gambling agents (nor do I see any use for them), but from what I looked up they're there to make the lives of bettors and bookies easier, kind of like real estate agents, but from what I know of said agents, you need to know what you're reading/doing before even being able to hire them, which a lot of people really don't.

[Kemarit]

Today I witness something very strange in the area where I live recently. There was a gambling shop that was not too far from where I am staying, so every day different gamblers visit the shop to bet on games, some win and some don't win a dime.

So, yesterday afternoon, a man bet on a midnight game and the game played accordingly as predicted, but the surprising thing was that the betting agent ran away with the money the man won, and the betting agent is no where to be found.

However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

The question is, is the betting agent legit or it is a just a fly by night betting shop? If it is a legit betting agent then maybe he has a chance to pursue legal means about the owner. However, if it is just a illegal and fly by night betting shop, I doubt that the winner can go after the owner of the shop as he might simply disappear and never return.

I have been betting on a legitimate betting shop but I haven't encounter this situation. If I won, I will just go there, sometimes they will say that they don't have the money yet and if I'm willing to wait or just go to other legit betting shop to claim my price. Usually legit betting sites have the government approval first, like a lottery or even a horse race betting shop.

[Vaskiy]

This is completely new to me. Countries where gambling is restricted, we can't see such shops for the purpose of gambling. This is kind of making the people's ignorance. Maybe in the future we won't encounter such issues happening around as people gets used to the gambling platforms and makes use of it. In my country during the IPL season we will be able to see more such agents working in the underground. Quite often government also runs raids and seize big money and arrest the agents. Whats been mentioned by OP also looks like similar incident and a police complaint might help in recovery the money and catch the fraud agent.

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However, I am here to say these are the reasons why it is not always good to gamble in a betting agent's shop, because if the manager of the shop does not run with the money a gambler wins, then one of the workers in the betting shop might run away with the money someone wins, so I do conclude that an online gambling site with good reputation is the best for gambler, so what do you guys have to say about this?.

IMO, this is just about the bankroll that the bookie or betting agent has. I can understand why the betting agent ran away with the money of the bettor who had won the bet because the agent felt unable to pay the customer winnings because the money he had was not enough to pay it and he thought that if he paid the winnings the customer would go bankrupt.

and related to online gambling, you will experience the same thing, only he dont run away but refuse to pay your winnings for various reasons and worse, sometimes you refuse to pay your customers winnings by accusing them of violating the gambling rules.
so there is a maximum limit on the number of bets on various reputable online gambling sites to limit the amount of big winnings that can be paid by the gambling party and all of this has been calculated from the amount of bankroll owned by the gambling party.

maybe I can appreciate your point about reputable online gambling being the best for gamblers because it has a maximum betting limit which is different from the betting agent next to where you live which may not provide a maximum betting limit and this is just my opinion.

[Plaguedeath]

Don't these kinds of "shops" have a registration or something? Well at least in mine, registrations are required at a certain point, and considering this was related to gambling, I would've reckoned that they needed said permits to continue their business.

My assumption the "shops" that @OP discussed above is an illegal shops, that's why someone can easily escape and there's nothing they can do, especially if gambling is illegal on there. If you go to a court and make a report if there's a scammer run away with the gambler money, you could be jailed since you broke your country rules lol.

[piebeyb]

The case is the same as my friend where I warned him not to bet at the gambling shop because it is not certain that his winnings will be paid and it turns out that when he won the bet, the owner of the gambling shop ran away and never returned to that place, that's why I always introduce online casinos. to the people who live around my house, where technology is now increasingly advanced so they can gamble online. Even people who don't understand technology will eventually learn because they want to gamble safely.

But from cases like this it can be a lesson for everyone not to trust the gambling shops around us too much, it's better to just gamble on online casino sites which are currently abundant on the internet and easy to find, lots of casino games, sports betting and so on. other.