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October 15, 2023, 05:52:49 AM
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Trust is a tricky thing, but we really do need it in our lives. There's that saying, 'no man is an island,' and it's spot on. We trust our family, right? But the level of trust can vary, depending on what we're trusting them with. Like, when it comes to your money, your ATM balance, that's your personal stash, and you'd better guard that with your life. But there might be times when you need someone else to make a withdrawal for you, and that's when you're really putting your trust in them since they can't do it without your PIN.

Now, when we're talking about seeds, it's a bit like the principle with an ATM PIN. Those seeds are like the keys to your funds, and without them, nothing's moving.

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October 15, 2023, 06:18:08 AM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
I'm not sure, but each person's life is different and each person has countless questions, so it creates a difference, the belief for a specific issue is different from the belief for others. for the object the OP mentioned. Just like you said, I don't completely believe in it. It's only when I test it myself that that belief can be built. I still remember an excerpt from a teacher that I greatly admire even when even if you worship them, don't rush to believe their opinions, but check for yourself to see if they are true.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
This problem pertains to physical property, and for me it's much simpler to fully accept that it's being used by someone I trust to use it properly, knowing the information. There's no problem with that secret information. But what we consider confidential information is actually to me simply the complexity of controlling behavior. If we could witness everyone lovingly helping and sharing each other's difficulties, it would be better. There will no longer be doubt, jealousy, greed,... and material assets will also be seen as a tool to support each other, not something we try to find a way to protect and keep .

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October 15, 2023, 06:27:46 AM
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  WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
Presently, I have someone I trust with my ATM pin, but what I want you to understand is that an ATM pin is different from a seed phrase because an ATM pin is just a 4-digit pin that is used to withdraw money through an ATM machine. With an ATM pin, you need the ATM card to withdraw, and again, you can change your ATM pin at any time you wish to. while seed phrase is different because, as we all know, seed phrase is a 12 or 24 word that is randomly generated and provided to you when you create a cryptocurrency wallet, and it is used to backup in case you lose access to your wallet or you want to restore it to a new or different device. Again, it cannot be charged, so if someone has access to your seed phrase, that means he has access to your wallet, and you can’t change it even though you are not more together with the person. That is why we emphasise that you should keep your seed phrase private.

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October 15, 2023, 06:38:58 AM
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there's reason why banks are always warning you from disclosing your ATM pin to someone else, its for your own money security so that it won't get stolen and even it indeed got stolen you know its not your mistake.
thats the thing with money, no one could really held back from the desire of getting money, even if its your close relative.
you might be having some significant one that you can trust but thats only if you're okay with it and knowing the consequences.
i personally would never trust my ATM pin to other people same with my wallet, who knows they might be taking advantage of me and its just for peace of mind thing.
It's hard to gain trust when it comes to something so private. However, in my opinion, things that are very private also need to be told to someone, just like ATM pins or passwords on various platforms.

As humans we know what will happen in the future, if we get sick or even die then it is very necessary to have someone we trust most to be able to access all these platforms. So it makes perfect sense for my wife to be the person I trust most in all things (if it goes normally).

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October 15, 2023, 06:59:20 AM
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My father gave me his personal bank account details, ATM Pin, debit card, etc. He trusts me! if you want to learn something just learn from <<these lines.
and about seed phrase obviously yes because investment amount in bitcoin will always be less than savings account or properties.
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October 15, 2023, 07:00:43 AM
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This quite reminds me of the discussion about why we should all drop our Bitcoin wallet to the ones we love so that it doesn't go to waste, do you really know that if your home is free of an enemy the enemies outside can't get you? When your family is full of bad people or people you just can't trust you should build a family, your own family, and have your children, if you can't trust your wife or husband you will have a kid you can at least trust.

I believe your ATM card pin should be safe with your partner if you trust them, or your kid if you trust them, it's all about trust just like you said and you have to make sure there is trust before taking any money step or you will be betrayed.

There are many rich men then died without letting their families get ahold of their money, they only left behind their properties for them, it's because they believed it would be the cause of hate and even wars within the family.

ATM PIN code should be private though, you don't have to share with anyone but if you see the need to do that it's fine, and that is if you trust the other person.

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October 15, 2023, 07:18:04 AM
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People find it difficult to trust someone because their trust has been taken for granted in the past by those they trusted, so trusting someone again seems impossible to them, but trust is still worth giving to others, although we can't guarantee what's in the heart.

We should at least give some people who are worth trusting that trust, not up to 100%, as you can only trust yourself up to that extent, but trusting someone 100% is risky and not advisable no matter the relationship you have with the person.
 
If you are to go into any business deal with someone, you need to give them a little trust, as that's what can create a working business relationship.

One needs to trust the other before that can work. Even here in the forum, there is a level of trust to some extent between members. Trust might be a tricky thing, but until the person proves to you that they can't be trusted, still give them that chance and see how it turns out to be.

 
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October 15, 2023, 08:18:27 AM
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People find it difficult to trust someone because their trust has been taken for granted in the past by those they trusted, so trusting someone again seems impossible to them, but trust is still worth giving to others, although we can't guarantee what's in the heart.
I quite agree with your take here and I should say they aren't to be blamed. Trust is like an eraser, the more pieces chop off, the more it becomes hard to regain.
In terms of disclosing your PIN to a loved one or even a trusted friend is a matter of personal decision. Some find it difficult to hand over such sensitive detail to someone because they fear it can enter the wrong hands and since some are not aware that this can be changed if such happens, they prefer to not take chances.
 Well, in this day and age where scammers are getting innovative, I feel it takes more than just not disclosing your PIN to another person to keep your funds intact. Truth is, the best way for me to ensure my funds are intact is to not even use the traditional banking methods because they are centralized and can decide one morning to lock your money or can decide the amount to enter.
 

 
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October 15, 2023, 08:52:58 AM
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Faith and caution are two different things. You may have a trusted person in your family but it is never right to share your security stuff with him. Always try to keep your privacy to yourself. You may have a good relationship with another person today, but after some time when his relationship with you becomes distant due to some reason, he will try to blackmail you with your secrets. Where fathers are being murdered by children and brothers are fighting over land, it would be unwise to share bank PINs or any other important information with others. I never like to share my personal things with others nor am I interested in knowing about other people's personal things so I am like myself in this respect.

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October 15, 2023, 09:10:10 AM
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Giving 100% trust to relatives, friends, and family may be difficult, especially when we have been betrayed by those close to us. But at least we can trust some close people around us, especially our family.

I trust my family members and will give my seed phrases to them later. But I will not share that seed phrase with my friends, even if they are my closest friends. My crypto assets are for my family and I really trust them and so do they trust me very much.

So there is no problem for me not to entrust the seed phrase to them. But the seed phrase and ATM pin are different. Each of us has a different bank account.

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It's really hard to give something that is hard to give to someone since it can be easily broken, once broken it's really hard to gave a second chance. I guess this would depends on the person experience, if they already experienced betrayal  in many things waste their trust. For me, I can't really trust anyone even my family, but since they are the one who's with me from the start, I still trust them, it's already on their conscience to do bad deed. Imagine you saved a lot in crypto or bank but they used it wisely in emergency right, I think that's tolerable.

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Trusting individuals is not easy because people have continuously abuse their trust, so I think if somebody has to confined in you or trust you, you have to prove to the person that you are worth it, even though most times people pretend in other to gain that trust which is fake.

The recent happening and individual character have made it almost impossible for trust to exist, I don't think anybody should be blamed for it, is just the way things has turned to be, to me 100% is no no thing, unless we are talking about giving benefit of doubt, is in human nature to betray so we can't change that fact, the only thing is, we should be mindful of what we do and be careful.

In the aspect of trusting some with your transaction details, be it seed phrase or code, when you are doing this, you should know that anything can happen because you are dealing with a human being that can change due to either seeking for advice from others or doing what comes to their mind not minding what may come out of it, I must be sincere I have trust issues that's why I can only give 20% out of 100%.

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October 15, 2023, 09:28:10 AM
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However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

That's right, I think we all here have our own bank accounts which are needed to carry out fiat transactions. Btw, it seems like you are the typical person who is very careful, but that's normal in my opinion, because in terms of trust, it should not be given just like that, especially in urgent conditions/circumstances because it concerns finances or security.

So, in my opinion, if you force it, it will have serious consequences and there is no guarantee that everything will be fine, especially in a more technical context such as using an ATM PIN or seed phrase (both of these things are very important confidential information). Yes. as you said above, it is true that winnings are not allowed to be given haphazardly, but maybe it's different if the assets are zero and it's not a special account, in my opinion that's okay.
     

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The only person I entrust with something as crucial as my ATM PIN or seed phrase is my mother. I would never feel any loss if my mother were to know the entirety of my financial holdings and withdraw some money to purchase something for herself. My mother's education may not be extensive, and she's not even aware of how to access my Bitcoin wallet, despite my attempts to instruct her from the ground up.

As of now, my ATM PIN is known to my mother and a few other family members, including my older sister. Since I treat my ATM card as I do my own money, there has never been a significant withdrawal that has placed a burden on me. We hold mutual respect for each other's feelings within the family. Besides, my mother always consults me when she needs money, so I do not harbor any unusual concerns that would lead me to negative thoughts about the misuse of my ATM.
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I understand what you mean, you are trying to suggest that we should not just trust third parties about the money we have in our wallets, in other words other people should not have access to the accounts we have because anyone cannot be trusted, even if they are in a close relationship. family.

In principle, of course I don't trust anyone in financial matters and that's why I'm interested in Bitcoin, but for the fact that I can't close myself in the system that exists in this world, where third parties are one of the popular ones used in finance. , while there are clear regulations and legal defense of customers, I prioritize using several banks to store my cash.

For wives and others, I have budgeted their monthly expenses, both general and personal needs, still in finances, even though wives must know that we save our money, but don't give them access.

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October 15, 2023, 11:28:08 AM
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so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
My partner in life is the one I trust the most. We've spent 10 years together; I know her better than anyone. She's not someone that can easily be blinded with money as she is really responsible on where to spend money, she knows her priorities and we're open to each other when it comes to money. And yes, I am 100% that I can trust my partner with my seed phrase. She can take care of it and use it not only for herself but also for our family.

It's really hard to find someone whom you can really trust. You have to know how to know what's inside their mind and their intention whether they can easily be blinded by money or not. If ever that you can't find someone, the only choice is your parents.


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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?

It is very difficult to be able to give trust to other people. If only everyone was able to behave honestly and responsibly, perhaps there would be no such thing as a statement letter and there would be no such thing as a memorandum of understanding because everyone would behave honestly and responsibly. And maybe stamp paper won't sell on the market and there's no such thing as an oath of office.

It is true that being able to provide trust is very difficult, but we also cannot act alone because the role of other people is needed to make a job easier. And if we want to be trusted by other people, we must also be able to give trust to other people so that mutual trust can arise in each other.

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October 15, 2023, 12:31:17 PM
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.

However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
It depends on the people closest to you such as family, friends and others who seem to have an untrustworthy nature. Meanwhile, I personally am not someone who is too easily suspicious. I mean for certain reasons, for example as a financial holder, my family has access to take it, in this case my wife. Maybe as I said, it comes back to how you apply an attitude of trust in other people. I also don't immediately give access without having a specific reason. Only certain people, because what I do is have an alternative if something undesirable happens such as death or an accident, so I need a second party to take care of it.

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October 15, 2023, 12:54:25 PM
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Well, I have seen a lot of comments here, and I am pretty happy to read a lot of them. It is quite interesting though, like some have nobody to trust and others have maybe 1 person or more. Yes, sometimes we don't have to trust someone with something special, but there are things we should learn to trust some person for, but not totally.

If we talk about money, a lot of people don't joke about it. People don't trust anyone with their money. However, I have two people who I trust with my funds. My mum is the number one person and my mum also trust me too.

Part of the money that I used to invest in Bitcoin was given to me by my parents (30% of it) but the rest of the money was mine, so what I am about to say is that, if my parents didn't trust me they wouldn't add their money to mine, so I can invest them in Bitcoin. That's what we call trust. There are people who their parents can't give a dime because they have no trust. It's good to trust someone a little bit and not completely.

I already know that a fiat bank pin and a seed phrase are two different things, but the reason why I mentioned them is that they are a bit similar. A fiat bank account contains money and a wallet seed phrase also contains money.


 
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October 15, 2023, 01:07:30 PM
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Trusting someone with money & sensitive info is not easy. It depends on so many factors such as past experiences, personal judgment& the level of trust between people. Some people find it easy to trust others with money based on their reputation or relationship, others might be more cautious. It's important to assess the person's reliability, financial responsibility & track record before making a decision. Open communication, transparency & establishing clear expectations can help build trust in financial matters.

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