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October 15, 2023, 01:11:16 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases.
For this kind of thing, I can only completely entrust two people in my life, the first is my own parents and the second is my life partner because I have been building a household with him for a long time. Apart from that, I cannot completely trust everything, especially in things that need to be kept secret in life. Although I have also seen several cases that have surprised me so far. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? To this I also have to say NO, because my ATM pin may only be known by the bank and my partner personally. Meanwhile, regarding seed phrases, I still can't trust the bank, but I can still trust my partner for this because he really wants to obey what I say, which makes me not afraid to tell him whatever I have been using all this time.
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Dimitri94
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October 15, 2023, 01:39:42 PM |
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The answer to this question is simple but if we think deeply we can understand a lot. In today's era, if we talk about the word trust, we will always get its negative aspects, i.e. it is very difficult to trust someone now. Although there are still many good people in this world who deserve to be trusted, this cannot be thought all cases. And the number of those believers who can keep faith is almost limited. But in managing life, we must trust someone. I don't want to give my personal ATM PIN number to anyone just out of trust because I don't want to leave anyone under suspicion. I will not give my seed phrases to anyone. But there is no way without giving it. We have to trust someone and give that phrase, otherwise there will be no ownership in case of an accident. Inheritance we must trust someone.
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Coin_trader
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October 15, 2023, 01:47:16 PM |
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting. The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.
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October 15, 2023, 02:00:37 PM |
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Trust is such a big word. It's hard to gain someone's trust to that extend of sharing pin and seedphrase. You can't do that to anybody even if you'd say you trust them. But in my case, some of my family know my bank pin since sometimes they'd be the one who'll withdraw some money from my account. Like my mom. Of course I trust my mom, and even if she'll take some of the money (with my knowledge), I know she'll use it for the family's expenses. Also my gf knows my pin. As for my seedphrase, I share it will my gf because she helps me with crypto related stuff. I share it with her because if ever I can't find where I keep my phrase, I can ask her. Others might won't agree with this since they might think it's too early to share such private info when you're not even married yet but it's just that I trust her. It all depends on how we trust the people around us. If you can trust them with such things.
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October 15, 2023, 02:07:29 PM |
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them.
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October 15, 2023, 02:43:50 PM |
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
It is very difficult to build trust in someone especially when you have seen so much in your life. Trusting with an ATM pin to someone is one thing, while trusting with a seed phrase is another thing, and everyone has a different opinion regarding, who to trust. My wife and best friend know about my ATM PINs and bank account details, and I can trust them with my life. They do know about my crypto holdings, where my seed phrases are stored, and how to decode them. It's really hard to trust someone these days especially if you know their background. Once you learn they did stupid things before, you may really have to think twice before even entrusting some funds. If you have a kid it makes sense that you trust your wife since she will also take care of your kid once you suddenly just drop dead. She can at least get funds for them to live. But in the current time when banks themselves are insolvent, I would run away from banks and just use BTC which I could also give the seed to my wife.
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October 15, 2023, 02:53:30 PM |
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
For ATM pin, I do trust my family to know what's my ATM pin is. Although they know what's my pin, they don't even bother to use it for their own and they will always ask if they need something, it does also applies if I need stuff as well and ask to my family. But for seed phrase? That's just my secret and my family isn't that tech savvy so they don't know what the hell I am talking about and they don't even bother with it. I guess it just depends on your family condition because every family is different and you can't just fully generalize it.
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October 15, 2023, 02:57:17 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. My answer to your question on trust is yes. I can trust my immediate family member and my wife. Based on my upbringing and my relationship with my sibling and what we have been through, I know that they are trustworthy. As for my wife, well of course she's my wife I got married to her in the first place because should anything happen to me she's the first person that will be called so yes I can trust her. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? Yes. My wife and my immediate youger sibling. Aside these people, I do not trust any other person. My ATM pin and my seed phrase will be safe with them because they have knowledge about Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
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October 15, 2023, 03:38:38 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. Thank God....my family can still be completely trusted, they can all be trusted and even help and remind me about finances. I am grateful to have a family I can trust 100%, but outside of my family such as friends and family, I hesitate to trust them. In essence, this comes back to each of you who can judge the family's character, only you yourself can be trusted or not. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? Pins with seed phrases are actually different. Many of my friends know my ATM pin because sometimes after hanging out in cafes when paying they often use my ATM. If they intend to cheat and take my money at the ATM, I can change the pin or we can go to the BANK to ask about the return process. Unlike seed phrases, I cannot return assets, even the wrong ones if I send them can't be taken back. Therefore, you really have to tell the seed of this phrase to the person you trust most, in this case I trust my sibling.
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October 15, 2023, 03:54:42 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? I don't think I can fully trust any of my friends or family or any relatives, because wealth is something that can sometimes cause confusion in a person's intentions, and even your close relationship can deceive you in greed. .Only yourself can be trusted with complete confidence. Earlier people used to trust each other and people used to be sincere,now people's trust is getting lost. This has happened to me myself, I trusted my close friend and did joint business with him, in which he cheated me for the sake of wealth. I can give the ATM PIN of a bank account that doesn't have a lot of money to a close relative, but if the account has a lot of money, I will never give my ATM PIN to a close friend or relative. I feel like I can't trust anyone with my seed phrase, because it's always my long-term investment.So I'll try to keep my seed phrase as secret as possible, because it is possible for me to trust someone close to me and tell them and they can't protect my seed phrase.
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October 15, 2023, 04:12:43 PM |
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It doesn't matter if they'd trust me with their pins or not because I know I can be trusted myself but if we are talking viceversa it won't work. I trust no one too. I knew things better than the people around me specially my family, friends or relatives that are vulnerable to any of the common human errors. I am a type of person that is private. I don't even trust my shadow. 😅 Trust issues on movies regarding security could also happen in real life situation that is why I'd better keep my pins with me. My pins my responsibility. Trusting other people with your pins could pose risk.
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October 15, 2023, 04:29:28 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? Simple here, I never even trust a person who is going to ask me for my passwords whether it is of my wallet, my ATM, my bank, etc. I had to never give him any of them to a person. Because all things are related to security and there should be no compromise on security, even one should not share with his family members, its friends. But I'm confused about one thing, whenever I die how could be my password known something and my all money will be lost and no one will benefit from it? This could be shown to only one person that I have trusted the more. Otherwise, other ones who are asking for my password or any other I will never give them.
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October 15, 2023, 04:39:35 PM |
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I'm a pretty trusting person in life. I generally tend to believe what people are saying, unless they're saying something that I find very suspicious or know it to be wrong. I often give people the benefit of the doubt when I'm not sure. As for a PIN from a debit card, that's obviously not something I'd give a random person, that's just common sense to me. Because if a person's asking that, they're most likely trying to rob me, so why would I help them? But my spouse knows PINs from my cards, and vice versa. I'd also be okay telling my pin to some other family members if I feel like it's the most convenient thing to do in a situation. And yes, I trust the same person with my seed phrase, and I'd be okay sharing it with the same family members when/if it makes sense.
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October 15, 2023, 04:54:28 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? Personal details like ATM pin, seed phrases should not be shared with others but that doesn't mean you can not trust anyone with such information. One of my friends had my ATM and its pin number. Even he was holding one of my friends cards for a long time. We have never faced any issue. I don't want to share my seed phrase with that same friend which is true but if i do somehow i will trust him to hold that account. If you don't have someone like him in your life thats your bad luck bro.
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October 15, 2023, 05:01:39 PM |
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The word trust is the central topic here, when involving trust it has to do with an important thing, and you mentioned seed phrase and your using ATM pin as an example. I will not say I trust someone 100% because anyone can change at any time from my past experience. Trust me the world is so wild, so when involving seed phrase and ATM pin I can trust my family member 95%, most of my family members knows my ATM pin and have not experience any form of scam. Knowing who to trust matters alot. But when it comes to friends I don't give a damn about trust. But the fact here is trust someone at your own risk. But I will prefer keeping my seed phrase as a secret
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October 15, 2023, 05:16:03 PM |
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A lot of questions have no answers, but only a few have the right answers to 95% of some questions. Well, let me start with trust. Can you trust a person, either a friend, family or a relative, with 100% complete trust? Let me answer myself first? NO I can't. I can't trust anybody fully 100% anymore because I have seen some though cases. However, almost all of us here have a fiat bank account and some of us have what we call a personal identification number, which refers to an ATM pin that we use for withdrawal or sending funds out, so the question is a bit simple: WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase? You can trust many people, but how everyone defines or achieves trust is individual to each situation. There is no hard and fast rule, besides identifying clearly untrustworthy traits which are obvious to most people. Only through life experience can and should you learn who to trust. There are different degrees of trust and even lawful backing if we're talking about business style arrangements. If you involve money in any relationship you have with another person, that can totally change the equation because some people behave differently when it comes to finances. Since you posed the question, you should not be disclosing your pin to anyone - because the banks prohibit it and there's no good reason to do so, you only cast unnecessary suspicion if you were to share it and something went wrong.
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Twentyonepaylots
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October 15, 2023, 05:16:50 PM |
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WHO DO YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BANK ATM PIN? if you have a person that you fully trust with your ATM pin, can you also trust that same person with your seed phrase?
My wife. I literally share my ATM pin number to her since she holds my ATM(which I voluntarily ask ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) and also because she is the one who budgets our expenses in the house. I only get part of it as my allowance and the rest will to her budgeting. [/quote] That's normal, yes? I mean if you're not in the house then someone should handle the budget for y'all? and who do you trust your life with? your wife. The only time I will not trust my partner is when she is already cheating or she is not responsible enough to manage our budgeting. Seriously, if you can’t trust your partner despite you have kids to sustain then I don’t know what’s wrong with this kind of trust issue anymore.
I believe so, and again that would be our natural instinct as a man. If you wife have a history of cheating in any way then that's the only time it is healthy to mistrust, even not your wife. If someone already broke the trust you gave them then it is only healthy to mistrust someone, even the slightest thing you can have with them.
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Unbunplease
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October 15, 2023, 05:20:39 PM |
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I'm a pretty trusting person in life. I generally tend to believe what people are saying, unless they're saying something that I find very suspicious or know it to be wrong. I often give people the benefit of the doubt when I'm not sure. As for a PIN from a debit card, that's obviously not something I'd give a random person, that's just common sense to me. Because if a person's asking that, they're most likely trying to rob me, so why would I help them? But my spouse knows PINs from my cards, and vice versa. I'd also be okay telling my pin to some other family members if I feel like it's the most convenient thing to do in a situation. And yes, I trust the same person with my seed phrase, and I'd be okay sharing it with the same family members when/if it makes sense.
Nowadays, besides Pin-code, SMS confirmation is often required. Regarding trusting family members - any family member can accidentally tell or otherwise disclose the PIN code, so periodic change of the PIN code is highly recommended, if possible. It's just basic caution.
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Rivaldine
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October 15, 2023, 05:21:04 PM |
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Damages have been done to the word called trust, hence, it is not an easy word to display anymore. Even trusted people, when pressurized can sacrifice the trust you have for them on grounds that offers more than what is expected or even when a lifetime challenge is involved..
Never trust no one. Even your addictions makes you not to trust yourself.
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bitzizzix
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October 15, 2023, 05:23:26 PM |
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When I got married, my wife held my ATM along with the PIN and she was the one who managed all financial affairs because she was able to manage it well and for the good of my family. And another reason, because my wife is more frugal and also attentive when she wants to buy something. And I also gave my seed phrase to my wife and I also taught her how to operate it, and the purpose is to anticipate if I die, because death is unpredictable and also knows no age. In my opinion, our wife is the only person we should trust and be open about in any matter because she is the one who will be our companion until the end of our lives. And that applies to those who have a very good wife and we know her well overall and also love us very much. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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