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October 15, 2023, 09:48:38 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.


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October 15, 2023, 09:59:20 AM
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And what happened exactly? The buildings were built in an area that the government now considers illegal to build or something like that?

Yes, Bitcoin if you self-custody it and use it well is much more difficult to fall into the clutches of the state as in this case, but the house you live in, apart from being an investment is necessary. You are not going to have everything in bitcoin and live on the street. The other option would be to live renting and have everything in bitcoin but it is better to diversify a little and that what you pay month to month is towards the equity you have in the house, not a sunk money that you give to the landlord.


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October 15, 2023, 10:09:54 AM
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This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
Buddy, there are many ways people also lose their BTC keys and find their wallet empty the next minute; i don't know what confirmation you are talking about here, neither do i know the story behind the link you shared, but real estate is a far less risky investment than BTC. Though every investment has its own risks, but some are more risky than others, take note that to be your own bank is a risk in itself and that's why a lot of people screw up and lose their coins.

Posting one link of people losing their investment in real estate is not a confirmation of anything, at least without comparing it to the number of people who have lost their BTC's, either through hacks, malware, centralized exchanges, lending and earning platforms; etc.

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October 15, 2023, 10:14:47 AM
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Bitcoin as an investment means is good, but I will prefer to diversify and invest also in real estate. If you have the money to invest in real estate, it would be good. But as you invest in bitcoin with $500, you can not invest in real estate with that low amount of money which is one of the reason bitcoin can be better in that way because with little amount of money you can invest in bitcoin, unlike real estate. The advantage of real estate is that the property you have do not devalue but continue to appreciate.

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October 15, 2023, 10:26:45 AM
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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.
Satoshi Nakamoto did not create Bitcoin as an asset against fiat currencies or central bank digital currencies CBDCs or investment asset. Initially it is designed as a peer-to-peer electronic cash, that's it. That is the most basic we must know and if Bitcoin loses this usability, it will no longer interested.

Other usability of Bitcoin is like derivatives that blossom with time and with more adoption for Bitcoin, we will see more claims on more new usability in future.

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This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
Buddy, there are many ways people also lose their BTC keys and find their wallet empty the next minute; i don't know what confirmation you are talking about here, neither do i know the story behind the link you shared, but real estate is a far less risky investment than BTC. Though every investment has its own risks, but some are more risky than others, take note that to be your own bank is a risk in itself and that's why a lot of people screw up and lose their coins.

Posting one link of people losing their investment in real estate is not a confirmation of anything, at least without comparing it to the number of people who have lost their BTC's, either through hacks, malware, centralized exchanges, lending and earning platforms; etc.
I once forgot a phrase or private key and it was confusing because of the risk of losing access forever, especially Talking about the risk of losing Bitcoin / crypto, both non-custodial wallets or other storage places, it's heartbreaking that I even experienced the drain myself. it feels like a sturdy and secluded house but there are people who can pass by without being seen.

Indeed, it is possible that 1 device is only for receiving and storing bitcoin / other crypto currencies not used for browsing the internet but I have not been able to have 2 different devices especially since I also often work on airdrops.

speaking of investments, both real estate of course ownership, both securities, powers or limits of rights are certainly not too risky to cause disputes.
It's a different story if it is acquired by an organizational or state body for development or utilization for state-owned businesses if the old owner / personal cannot prove ownership, of course it can be forcibly evicted. I don't really understand your video gan.

bitcoin is indeed a masterpiece that is not expected, its intention is to test transactions between users but currently many are using it for investment, transaction tools and even certain countries consider it legal to shop as currency.

sir, I myself still have bitcoin even though I invested in spot trading on CEX, I know the risks but that's the easiest way for me to utilize my bitcoin.

If I can choose ... physical investment is also needed, of course bitcoin complements and makes it easier for me to invest.


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October 15, 2023, 10:32:05 AM
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This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

It will not be safe and could be worse than other investments if you cannot maintain it properly or ignore some important elements [seed phrase or private key] that have access to bitcoin.
Many people know that Bitcoin is a good type of investment compared to conventional investments but lose their coins because they don't know how to look after them properly.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.

Just because they don't want to find out how bitcoin works and they also never want to find out how the fiat currency they use every day works.
I think therein lies the weakness of people who doubt all the advantages of bitcoin as a currency and as a long-term investment asset.

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One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.
This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.
I think you are missing it here mate. Bitcoin is indeed a promising investment, but like all investments, it carries risks. Just because you've invested in Bitcoin doesn't mean that other investment opportunities lack merit. Diversifying your portfolio by also investing in assets like real estate, which tend to appreciate over time, can be a wise choice. Bitcoin's volatility makes it riskier compared to real estate.
The distinguishing factor is that you can invest in Bitcoin with any capital you desire. I also came across a post this morning in which someone sought advice on whether to invest in Bitcoin or land as assets. The answer is straightforward "what ever you may think about investing on, the choice is ultimately yours, as long as it has the potential to yield profits over time"

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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Says a person who isn't part of estate business...
Just like others have said, "Every investment has a risk factor attached to it".

In the case of the incident that happened in your country, the owners/founders of the estate project could be held accountable, but in the case of having a Bitcoin loss or other risky factors attached, then you should consider starting all over.

For me, I would say that: what makes me consider bitcoin a better investment is the fact that I know the risk factors and the volatility attached, but I am still willing to take the risk.

In conclusion, I would say that: both investment are profitable. The only thing that matters is how the investor understands and interpret the risk factors, because he/she must be ready to bear the cost.
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There are many characteristics and features that make Bitcoin different from other crypto assets.

Meanwhile, the major reason is the problem the world is facing before Bitcoin was created by Satoshi, the technology used (which most all altcoin devs edited when creating their altcoin), the BTC consensus mechanism, decentralization, and the development that was community-driven.
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[...] But as you invest in bitcoin with $500, you can not invest in real estate with that low amount of money which is one of the reason bitcoin can be better in that way because with little amount of money you can invest in bitcoin, unlike real estate.
If the obstacle lies in the significant amount of capital required to invest in real estate, there is actually a potentially superior solution - read more here: "How Can I Invest In Property With Little Money?" However, if the concern is the limited profit potential due to the lower risk associated with property investment, it seems somewhat reasonable.

I'm not advocating for real estate investment, but my preference for Bitcoin over real estate is driven by my inclination for more challenging risks. Additionally, in the comparison I grasp between Bitcoin and real estate, I have a slightly better understanding of Bitcoin.
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Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.
Every business or investment involves some level of risk. Bitcoin is not a perfect investment because it also has some level of risk. I have also observed that there is no need to compare Bitcoin with any other investment such as real estate because they are two different sectors. I am one of the people who have so much respect for the real estate sector because it has less risk and appreciates significantly. But the recent happenings in the world are making me change my views. The recent earthquake in Turkey, Morocco and Afghanistan the flooding in Libya and the destruction of Gaza are all indicators that the Real estate sector is not risk-proof. Investing in bitcoin is not also a safe haven because many people have also lost their funds through hacks and other attacks. The best option will be to diversify your investment and learn the art of keeping your investment safe.     


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Bitcoin has many advantages over traditional investment options. The main advantage of Bitcoin investment is that it is decentralised and can not be controlled by an institute or a government. You will have a complete hold over your investment. You can easily transfer Bitcoin around the globe with a click of your finger, while traditional ways have many limitations. As the supply of Bitcoin is fixed (21 Million), it can not be mined above this number; on the other hand, dollars can be printed whenever the government likes, and we have seen this during COVID and post-pandemic and could influence currency devaluation and inflation. Return on investment is much higher in bitcoin investment compared to other investment options. It can also be used as a storage of value at the time of emergencies. The only limitation of Bitcoin investment, in my opinion, is the volatility and regulatory concerns.
I think it is better to diversify your investment portfolio and not put all your investment into a single asset. You should invest in real estate, stocks, and business, along with Bitcoin investment.

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Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.
In traditional aspect it is. Real state before and even now's value only go up due to limited land spaces. Obviously it will scarce as population goes on. Maybe I cant argue with that since most people likely to know that. But on the other side, bitcoin is used as hedge fund but it doesnt mean its going up only. So its safe to say that real state is much safer when it comes to conservatory of investment while bitcoin is much riskier but greater chance of booming unexpectedly.

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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.

I know several threads have been made in this regards with most of them moribund. I created this post because I feel so bad regarding what happened in my country. As you can see in this post and the video in it, the state government demolished an entire estate with several buildings and properties inside. This is peoples investment that just got destroyed. This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government...another risk many people do not put into consideration in real estate and some other physical investments.  This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios.

Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.


For your country, this is quite worrying, but that does not mean the same measures apply in every region. However, generally they follow the rules or there is a dispute regarding the place to be destroyed so that the government carries out acts of destruction for clear reasons. The Bitcoin investment option is certainly simpler. In fact, I have the philosophy that Bitcoin was created for equality. Whatever the amount, everyone has the right to own Bitcoin and they will have complete control over what they own. That's why Bitcoin is given the nickname freedom, this is true so that we have rights to what we own.

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Investing in bitcoin is good on top of all other currencies and is not under anyone's control but if there is enough money then other good investments besides bitcoin investment usually concern holding assets like real money to work to increase the value of the asset. Money is used to buy assets such as real estate stocks coins businesses or anything else that has value expecting a return that will be greater than the money initially invested. Before exploring options in which to invest money there are some basic principles that must be understood in order to make wise investment decisions. Wealth can only be successfully built when you make the right choices and avoid pitfalls that can prevent investment in the long run.
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This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government.
This is a whole political problem. Some parties and people in those parties do not like the success of their opposition. So, If you are a supporting party and your opposition party has more power than you, they will try to destroy you by destroying your house, your business, and everything.

This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios. Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. I won't say Bitcoin is safer than your land and houses. Of course, Bitcoin has some pros. But these physical things are primary needs. You have to build your home to live in. You have to buy land to firm. You can invest in Bitcoin, too. But do not go all in.

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Even though some people will argue that Bitcoin was not created primarily as a means of investment, it has become obvious that Bitcoin presents a good investment opportunity. Many people even use Bitcoin as a hedge against fiat is plagued by inflation. One aspect that have created much argument is real estate with many saying it is more reliable than Bitcoin that they claim is risky.
Satoshi Nakamoto did not create Bitcoin as an asset against fiat currencies or central bank digital currencies CBDCs or investment asset. Initially it is designed as a peer-to-peer electronic cash, that's it. That is the most basic we must know and if Bitcoin loses this usability, it will no longer interested.

Other usability of Bitcoin is like derivatives that blossom with time and with more adoption for Bitcoin, we will see more claims on more new usability in future.

Actually it was designed to turn energy into wealth. Hence POW. you could use it to move that wealth P2P or you could hodl that wealth the reality is more hodl is done at least 50% of all coins are in a state of hodl. Maybe only 20% is moving p2p on a regular basis.

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October 15, 2023, 01:19:20 PM
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OP nobody will ever deny the advantages of investing in bitcoin even though it is the main purpose it was invented for by satoshi. With bitcoin as an investment you don’t need to have a huge amount before going into it like other investments. When you invest in them you still have privacy and not like other investments that at least a middle man must be involved. All this are its benefits but I will tell you that using only bitcoin as investment tool and not diversifying you portfolio is bad. This portfolio do not mean Altcoins but investments like real estate and precious stone. With precious stone been too scarce to buy then real estate is the ideal portfolio diversifier after bitcoin.

The real estate investment appreciates if you invest in the right places. The news you posted still lack some information because I am very sure that government must have made an announcement if that place was at a wrong place and would have actually compensated them long enough before that destruction. But many people turn deaf ears after collecting the compensation most especially if they finds out that the government has changed hands they will feel the new government wouldn’t do anything and they proceed to spending the money and living there life till the day when they ask for evacuations.. that estate destroyed must have been payed for before that act occured

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October 15, 2023, 01:27:29 PM
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For your country, this is quite worrying, but that does not mean the same measures apply in every region.
It is not perculiar to my country, it happens in some other countries. On the other hand, the case described above is similar to earthquake,  war, volcano and other emergencies that can bring physical investment to ruines. It just shows one unique advantage Bitcoin have over some other forms of investments.


This was a property approved by previous administration but demolished by new government.
This is a whole political problem. Some parties and people in those parties do not like the success of their opposition. So, If you are a supporting party and your opposition party has more power than you, they will try to destroy you by destroying your house, your business, and everything.
This has become a popular trend in my country; politicians target the businesses and properties of opposition. Maybe they all read 48 Laws of Power.

This is a confirmation that Bitcoin is safer and better than many conventional investment portfolios. Anyone still doubting the freedom, comfort and peace that Bitcoin offers is probably yet to embrace reality.
I'm afraid I have to disagree. I won't say Bitcoin is safer than your land and houses. Of course, Bitcoin has some pros. But these physical things are primary needs. You have to build your home to live in. You have to buy land to firm. You can invest in Bitcoin, too. But do not go all in.
I am viewing it from the aspect of investment, which is in line with the topic of discussion, and not base on needs. Shelter is a basic need that you have to put in place before you consider investment. So, I still feel Bitcoin is a safer and better long term investment option than real estate. Imagine using the money for the property to buy Bitcoin 10 years ago... today, you would have built three of those property and still have good amount of money left in your portfolio. But for this case, the owner of the property is starting from scratch,  having lost everything.

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