What if the internet permanently shuts down

[cryptosize]

Impossibru:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet

Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.

Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...

That's just it!, just an illusion of thoughts that can never be born , else there's massive destructions involving the whole continent  at large which is still having a less perc. to be considered I guess

Is this a ChatGPT message?

[promise444c5]

Impossibru:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet

Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.

Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...

That's just it!, just an illusion of thoughts that can never be born , else there's massive destructions involving the whole continent  at large which is still having a less perc. to be considered I guess

Is this a ChatGPT message?

Nope just a normal flow actually, you might be curious of the word else  I'm a dev actually it's just a default way to say the other way round of things

[rachael9385]

When I saw this thread I laughed because the question that's asked is not or can not be possible even till tomorrow, the use of the internet has increased so well that even the little children at home have started using the internet. So it is not possible for the internet to permanently shut down.
Nowadays, there are a lot of jobs people do with the internet and both governments make good use of it, so if any mistake happens to affect the satellite, there will be a total inoperative in the world.
But if the internet is totally shutdown, I don't think it will affect Bitcoin totally.

[Baki202]

If the internet wanted to shut down, it would have done so long ago. The term of Java when the world was still operating was 1g, so there is a big difference between knowing the truth and imagining what is not possible for the majority of the world sectors really on the internet, so for it to shut down means the world has already ended, but as long as we are still alive, the internet is going nowhere. because even for entertainment people are enjoying the internet.

[Adbitco]

If Internet shuts down then nothing works in the universe no communication as you said and probably all sectors of the world may collapsed. But don't ever imagine that anymore because we have grown above that age and there are lots of people who are actively sound to make sure we don't experience any break down and, talking about this forum.. well, what happened is just a common thing and if I am not mistakenly we have witnessed it several times and is not what to be panicking about.

[BitDane]

Although internet permanently shutting down is impossible unless it is the end of the world, I will play along with your scenario @OP.  If the internet shut down, it simply means the end of e-commerce, communication will greatly affected, and many company will get bankrupt and shutdown.  We will goes back to snail mail system, and  all online activities will come to halt.  That includes the cryptocurrency industry.

The positive effect of internet permanently shutting down is the need for more postman.  So while many online dependent company are mass laying employee, the post office and other delivery services will be hiring more personnel.

I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown?

Internet shutting down does not affect the data saved in a storage.  So there will be no deletion of information and one should not worry about his bank account nor his Bitcoin stashed on his wallet address

Who do we hold responsible?

Who ever the person or group that make the internet to permanently shuts down.  Do we have to think about this?

I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one  chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.

If the internet shuts down, although many will get bankrupt, the world will continue to move forward.  The communication may suffer a backslash and all industry that is dependent on the internet, the world had survived without these things before hand.  So as I stated, the world will move forward and still survive it is that no more Tiktok and other social media for you.  

If Internet shuts down then nothing works in the universe no communication as you said and probably all sectors of the world may collapsed. But don't ever imagine that anymore because we have grown above that age and there are lots of people who are actively sound to make sure we don't experience any break down and, talking about this forum.. well, what happened is just a common thing and if I am not mistakenly we have witnessed it several times and is not what to be panicking about.

Communication will not be lost, it will suffer a backslash, it can move backward and can still use telegram and snail mail.  Telephone(cabled) can still be used but obviously there will be a hardship in using mobile phone.  So in communication we might step back in year 1960s before the invention of the internet.

[lalabotax]

then what will happen is that this world will fall apart because it is not only Bitcoin or exchange groups that use the internet to optimize performance but there are many fields that currently use the internet. So it looks like this will not happen or if it does only happen in a short period of time. Because after all, the internet provider will of course carry out maintenance on anything that is not desired. or in any way to restore the internet. And as long as we still store our data properly, when the internet recovers, we can access our wallet or the platform we use again. I also agree with several members here. If this is something you don't need to worry about too much. because if there was no internet anymore, it could be said that we would be going back to the past.

[The Cryptovator]

What can you imagine without the Internet? If the Internet permanently stops, then where will you use your Bitcoin, which is only virtual? Even though you can access your Bitcoin through some other technologies, you still need the Internet to use it in a real-world case. Everything will collapse if the Internet collapses permanently. So this isn't a real concern for Bitcoin anyway.

[hatshepsut93]

The Internet can't suddenly break, it's very resilient. But if it will be gone, it would be because there's a much larger problem - a global thermonuclear war, a huge solar flare, total collapse of human civilization, etc. With those events money will no longer matter much, only your survival skills will. So if you are worried about such things, than try to get ready for them.

[dzungmobile]

What can you imagine without the Internet? If the Internet permanently stops, then where will you use your Bitcoin, which is only virtual? Even though you can access your Bitcoin through some other technologies, you still need the Internet to use it in a real-world case. Everything will collapse if the Internet collapses permanently. So this isn't a real concern for Bitcoin anyway.

In the past, human societies did not have electricity but now in the modern world, if there is no electricity completely and at the global scale, it will be a very serious problem for human civilization and surely in that situation, Bitcoin is not the biggest concern.

A lot of activities around the world will be stopped, impacted seriously and massively without Electricity supply. If it happens, we will be in a catastrophe and I will no longer need Bitcoin at that time. Perhaps I will have to concern about how to survive through it first.

[Outhue]

Shut down in what way OP? If the internet is down in your country it will never be the same in the next country close to yours on the map, and if you find yourself in a country that bans the internet for example just get a Starlink or esim, the world is now more advanced than believing someone can rob you of your access to the internet,  it can never work as there are good ways to stay connected, do your own research.

Unless some kind of massive wave comes into the world taking with it all the electricity in the world, powerful enough to shut down the satellites in the space too, and that would be interesting, with it? Of cos not, but this happens only in Hollywood movies, there are other things you should focus on right now OP, but this isn't one of should not be one of them.

The whole human civilization needs to collapse for the whole world to be without the internet and electricity, that's not on we humans to decide, that's the creator's business and I pray no such thing will happen, not in my own time if it's meant to happen lol.

[zaim7413]

Everyone doesn't want that to happen, all the convenience and speed of transactions currently experienced are always expected to run normally until an unspecified time limit. The scariest event that makes the Internet shut down permanently could happen if something happens like a mini apocalypse that shakes the world.
Bitcoin will continue to exist on the blockchain even if the internet no longer exists, your balance in your bank account will be stored neatly in the bank's data. As long as the internet remains inaccessible, Bitcoin will continue to freeze on the Blockchain without anyone being able to touch it.

[Bobrox]

Internet have been primary needed right now and don't imagine with impossible happening for the future exactly as internet permanently shuts down, have highest or technology development impossible with internet permanently shut down exactly with country have make the internet as important needed for all their activities. One thing possible with internet can shut down but awhile due many citizen complaint their service regarding with internet speed, in my country with internet have slow speed around other countries still can normal operation and many document uploaded in medical healthy with internet, I can't imagine what happen with all activities stopping when internet have been down or not working yet.

Looks when internet have been primary needed less possibility will be permanently shut down.

[Kelward]

What can you imagine without the Internet? If the Internet permanently stops, then where will you use your Bitcoin, which is only virtual? Even though you can access your Bitcoin through some other technologies, you still need the Internet to use it in a real-world case. Everything will collapse if the Internet collapses permanently. So this isn't a real concern for Bitcoin anyway.

In the past, human societies did not have electricity but now in the modern world, if there is no electricity completely and at the global scale, it will be a very serious problem for human civilization and surely in that situation, Bitcoin is not the biggest concern.

A lot of activities around the world will be stopped, impacted seriously and massively without Electricity supply. If it happens, we will be in a catastrophe and I will no longer need Bitcoin at that time. Perhaps I will have to concern about how to survive through it first.

Electricity is a major factor that powers the internet because without it there'll be no power to open and operate the internet. There are many alternatives to generate electricity, if one source is affected there are other sources to rely on, there are even electric generator machines and solar inverters for homes. But i don't think that there's any alternative for the internet in the case of a worldwide shutdown, although the thoughts have been proven to be near impossible in this thread.

I love bitcoin, so i sometimes wonder if there's anything that can affect or stop it's usage, the only thing i see is the internet. So if internet can not be shutdown, then there's nothing stopping bitcoin as a digital decentralized currency.

[jrrsparkles]

Hypothetically, if that happens then Bitcoin transactions will cease but the effect is more than you ever imagine, the economies of countries will take a hit even if there is an internet shutdown for 30 minutes or so, which means governments can't pull that string to stop the bitcoin's adoption and the policymakers knew it too that is why they always go with the restrictions to control the adoption.

[Yamifoud]

I love bitcoin, so i sometimes wonder if there's anything that can affect or stop it's usage, the only thing i see is the internet. So if internet can not be shutdown, then there's nothing stopping bitcoin as a digital decentralized currency.

Perhaps, you love it so stop thinking about it but rather believe that Bitcoin will even stay for a longer time instead of thinking of its fall.
The Internet era has come and such a great development contributed a lot - lifestyle and we live comfortably. People have already valued the importance of the internet so therefore, I don't see any reason why it will stop.

Might the use of Bitcoin and its existence be over but if we talk about the internet, that is way impossible knowing that it already plays a very important role in the community.

[Jon_Hodl]

I don't think it will for a couple of reasons.

1. The internet is how the globalists and the WEF control people. Without the control system, people will pursue their own ends and find ways to get food, water, shelter, healthcare, etc from within their own communities. The globalists don't want that. They want everyone to be 100% dependent on the systems that they own and operate.

2. There is already a growing contingent of people and communities around the world who are working on building mesh nets and our own internet service providers. It will take a long time to build and things will be very decentralized but they will be much more resilient against attacks since they don't have a single point of failure like our current ISP system has.

All we can do for now is plan for the worst and hope for the best. Try to get involved in your own local community and see what you can do to build your own mesh network systems and secure your own food, water, shelter, healthcare, etc. If the grid falls out, you will be glad you have at least some sort of a plan.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Actually, Bitcoin should be the least of your concerns, because Bitcoin wouldn't exist as long as the Internet went shut down universally. Nobody could send transactions, nor create new coins, so it'd be an absolute pause. Since there would be no economic network activity, then nobody could sell bitcoin either. The price of bitcoin would pretty much remain the same, because there would not be any volume.

Once the Internet come back after x years, the Bitcoin network could continue operating normally under a hard fork (to adjust the difficulty manually). That would definitely decrease its price.

[bbigtart]

That's why we need to invest in two worlds, the first is the digital world, of course bitcoin, crypto, shares, and the second is the offline world, for example owning land, property, gold, houses.

Because as the digital world advances, the offline world is also okay because offline is flexible. Meanwhile, if the digital world disappears, for example if the electricity goes out or the internet goes down, we still have an offline world that we can use. And I didn't expect that suddenly the entire internet world would die at the same time, what is certain is that if that happens it will definitely be gradual.

[macson]

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I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown? Who do we hold responsible? I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one  chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.

I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?

hahaha, Your concern is really excessive, the possibility of the internet shutting down permanently is 1%, this is because people in this world without exception are very dependent on the internet, even international governments in various countries continue to work hard to develop and improve internet infrastructure by continuing to upgrade the world's internet network until Now we have reached 5G, Elon Musk has also started to get involved in making the world's internet network continue to be active through his Starlink project, so you don't need to worry too much at this time, there is no reason for the internet to shut down permanently.