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October 15, 2023, 08:40:05 PM
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The purpose of studying at university should be to learn science. To find a job, you need to learn crafts and gain work experience at an early age. You can spend your life in a pleasant way by doing this but the fathers and mothers of our generation saw that a person who studied at university was a great person and they told their children that this was true. Almost all mothers and fathers did their best for their children to study at university but there was something they forgot. As a result of this situation, many unemployed people with university degrees emerged and the number of people who knew crafts decreased.

Now the situation is reversed, craft owners are doing well economically and university graduates are doing badly. If you are not going to do a job where you need to use your diploma such as lawyer, doctor, pharmacist, you can learn all kinds of professions much better from outside. For example, the software business is very popular today and you can learn software yourself from outside instead of dealing with theoretical computer science and mathematics courses at university. If you study economics at university, unfortunately you will not become an economics professor. This situation goes on and on, so in summary, it is unnecessary to go to university except for academic purposes.

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October 15, 2023, 08:51:15 PM
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I don't know of your country but to my country we have already given and failed up with our government why because every year by year the numbers of young graduates are increasing and the work opportunities are getting lower. This means there is a very slim chance for any graduate to gain job except those their parents are already in government house that are still on power before their children graduate from the University, and they always have automatic working chance but the poor go into acquiring skills that will favor them than relying on government that is to say we are already productive even though our government don't care we already know the system and we not depending on them rather creating more jobs opportunities for ourselves.

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October 15, 2023, 10:03:10 PM
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It has been a long time since the last time I expect anything good from my government, and I think most of the people in my country felt the same. In an ideal situation ones could expect governments to fix thing including employment problem but when most of governments are corrupt, we should find our own way out. Not only that but the increase in population make the competition get more harsh everyday. Not only skills but fresh-graduates are expected to have prior working experience, this means they should already work even when they haven't graduated, it forced them to accept internship work with extremely low salary, or even no salary at all.

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October 15, 2023, 10:34:57 PM
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Things has really changed unlike before when a graduate is coming out from the university their are job opportunities around the corners, people don't even stress themselves to acquire skills as an alternative just in case they don't get a job. Getting a job as a graduate some years back was a thing never to argue about or think about.  In this recent time things have really changed, expecting so much from the government as a graduate can lead people into serious problems.  The life we live now is so unpredictable, no one can be sure of practicing their desired career from what they have learnt in school.

I think if people really want to be happy in life, expecially undergraduates and young graduate they should learn not to give all expectations of having living job from the government.  If people create the mindset of being creative and productive in this era they will live a more happy life than putting all expectations of getting a dream job from the government.  A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.
It's not without reason why a lot of people recommend upskilling to others who are looking for a better job or better opportunities. The job market is pretty damn competitive at this point, especially if you consider how there were already a lot of layoffs before. It also helps a lot to others, especially those in fields where job offers/salaries are so damn low that learning other careers is rather easy as well, even without a diploma (though getting hired might be a different thing).

I just wished schools taught us properly how to have confidence, negotiate, taxes, and other real-world stuff. I was pretty dumb when it comes to those when I just graduated.

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October 15, 2023, 10:52:25 PM
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I don't want to be the grumpy old man telling kids what to do with their life or how they should think (for crying out loud I'm still 23 lol), but coming straight out of one of the most tumultuous phases of my life and just learning the ropes of being a young adult, here's what I have to say about staying positive or adapting a positive mindset in life for that matter:

  • There's no real merit nor reason why we should stay positive, there's not much to work around or be happy about, and for the most part, you'll have to be delusional (which is not necessarily a great or bad thing either) for you to remain grounded.
  • Being young comes with the angst and the pressure that the whole world is putting you against, especially when you're a young adult and you're just getting all the responsibilities in life. You want to live out your life how you dreamt it to be when you are a kid, but there are bills to pay and the fridge isn't going to fill itself, so you have to find work.
  • Business is out of the question for many, we don't have that much time in our hands between living out our life the best we can (partying, socializing, interacting with friends) and working towards the future that we want to build.
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October 15, 2023, 11:59:40 PM
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Young minds need to be more of entrepreneurial than fixing it to 9-5 job. Another thing, everyone wants to be on the safer side. Very few have the courage to risk. This is where people move towards government sectors and private firms for jobs even though they've got good skills. In some countries young people with productive minds were well received recognised and supported by the government. Most of the third world countries lack this kind of support from the government. This makes the young minds work for someone else, as days pass they loss interest over it. So, it is government that needs to motivate as well as provide financial support understanding the worth of the concept taken forward by the young people.

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October 16, 2023, 12:16:05 AM
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Young minds need to be more of entrepreneurial than fixing it to 9-5 job. Another thing, everyone wants to be on the safer side. Very few have the courage to risk. This is where people move towards government sectors and private firms for jobs even though they've got good skills. In some countries young people with productive minds were well received recognised and supported by the government. Most of the third world countries lack this kind of support from the government. This makes the young minds work for someone else, as days pass they loss interest over it. So, it is government that needs to motivate as well as provide financial support understanding the worth of the concept taken forward by the young people.
if only it was this easy, but becoming entrepreneur requires tremendous amount of effort and capital, even worst if someone have no experience dealing with entrepreneurship which is these people exactly are.
its should be the older generation that already accumulated wealth that start out entrepreneurship and opens up more opportunity for young people to work and accumulate wealth, not the other way around.
there's always big misconception that young people, should start out their own business but really? do many people think the capital required just falling down from the sky?
certainly most young people that just graduated are usually either broke or in college debt.

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October 16, 2023, 12:52:52 AM
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This is some utopia mindset btw. I had no idea what has been changing to the job market. A lot of people mentions on the massive monetary base expansion, easy money, low interest rate, and compress loan up to two generations! What exactly is all this fancy experiments they are doing, and how does all these complex instrument work. Look like the days where people are actually putting on hardwork to acquire what they want in life has gone!

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October 16, 2023, 01:16:31 AM
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Things has really changed unlike before when a graduate is coming out from the university their are job opportunities around the corners, people don't even stress themselves to acquire skills as an alternative just in case they don't get a job. Getting a job as a graduate some years back was a thing never to argue about or think about.  In this recent time things have really changed, expecting so much from the government as a graduate can lead people into serious problems.  The life we live now is so unpredictable, no one can be sure of practicing their desired career from what they have learnt in school.

I think if people really want to be happy in life, expecially undergraduates and young graduate they should learn not to give all expectations of having living job from the government.  If people create the mindset of being creative and productive in this era they will live a more happy life than putting all expectations of getting a dream job from the government.  A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.

Times have changed, in the past, graduates from well-known universities would have found it easy to get a job, but currently there are too many graduates from top universities who are unemployed and only hope from the government. You can be sure that the government will not really care about these graduates, so we have to change our thinking, many things that can be used as a source of money if we are creative and willing to learn.


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October 16, 2023, 02:41:50 AM
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Do you wish to alter their mindset? Believe me, it's quite challenging. For most people, the 9-to-5 mentality is the path they tread. Creative and productive thinking often faces apprehension due to the associated risks, while working 9-to-5 poses no risk other than perhaps the occasional scolding from the boss, with a steady monthly paycheck being the norm.

From my observations, more individuals tend to utilize their free time for productive pursuits, such as delving into textiles, video editing, photography, or other activities typically linked to their hobbies. Everyone yearns to engage in riskier ventures only when they feel financially secure. And the productive behaviors they undertake often carry high costs. Thus, it's usually their hobbies that bring them joy.
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October 16, 2023, 03:47:15 AM
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Currently, it is very necessary to instill an entrepreneurial spirit in undergraduate graduates so that they are not too dependent on work because it is difficult to find work, because what companies need is expertise and experience.
And most of them also have a high sense of prestige, and most of them will refuse if they are accepted into a job that is not in line with their profession and the salary is not appropriate. In fact, that is where his career and success will begin. Because as long as they start from the bottom, they can develop their abilities and also learn from the work they do, so they can be promoted when there are vacancies or they are needed.
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October 16, 2023, 05:10:10 AM
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 A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.


I think that now we are living in an ever-changing and developing world, opportunities have also expanded and there are now a lot of ways for us to generate an income. Since we are now in the technological age, as young people, we should know how we can properly utilize such so that we can be able to take advantage from it. For instance, there are a lot of social media platforms that we can use in order to generate money. You can do online selling, or establish a start-up business through online, you can also learn how to trade. And there are a lot of more opportunities, we just have to explore and just like what you have mentioned, develop a productive mindset.

In fact, there are a lot of people who did not finish their college or have a degree but were able to be successful and generate millions because they establish businesses and took advantage of social media. But still, education is still valuable and that having a degree will take you to places.
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October 16, 2023, 05:38:24 AM
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Of course, we cannot just have a mindset of relying on government jobs. Most countries' populations are growing so we expect more people at a working age rather than people retiring from their jobs. The growth of government jobs isn't that high, except maybe for socialist, communist, and other totalitarian governments where capitalists and businesses are restricted or limited; so most industries are nationalized.

Having a productive mindset is necessary. I remember when I was a very young kid, I heard Chinese people have productive mindsets or business-minded no matter how small or big. Now China is the second biggest economy in the world and its GDP continues to grow.

 

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October 16, 2023, 07:32:47 AM
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Yes, a lot has changed with the newer generation...

1. A lot of the younger generation think the world owe them something..... and they demand it.
2. The younger generation like to jump from one job to the next.. (job hoppers)
3. They are also studying longer and getting multiple qualifications. (multi skilled)
4. Technology are causing quick changes in the job opportunities, so they must keep up with the changes. (IT technology being one of the most extreme examples)
5. Long term loyalty and dedication to the job has been replaced by arrogance and self interest. (I see this every day, with the younger employees at my work... but there are exceptions)
6. After Covid, more people want to work from home or remotely and productivity has declined.

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October 16, 2023, 10:02:21 AM
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Every youth needs a productive mindset to be happy in life because nowadays it is very difficult to get government jobs. If there is a productive mindset it will make their life better than the job in fact we need a change in social attitudes. No job is big or small no one is big no one is small. A BCS cadre has as much right to live in the world as a productive one has to live just a disruption of space and time. In no way less productive than employment if engaged in productive work the child also gets limited experience from childhood and does not suffer from depression at a young age. If engaged in productive work then the number of unemployed in the country will decrease.
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October 16, 2023, 10:28:50 AM
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I agree with you, not one of us should even be that dependent on the government. Anyway, it's true that having a diploma and finishing a degree doesn't guarantee anyone to immediately have a job and then live happily after. These days having a degree is just one thing, an individual needs to have the skills, experience, and a whole lot of other requirements to even land an average-paying job. Moreover, it is also smarter for the youth (well honestly anyone at this point) to have various sources of income like a side job, an investment, or a business to ensure that the goal of reaching a stable income gets reached. Having one decent-paying job is never enough these days.
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Things has really changed unlike before when a graduate is coming out from the university their are job opportunities around the corners, people don't even stress themselves to acquire skills as an alternative just in case they don't get a job. Getting a job as a graduate some years back was a thing never to argue about or think about.  In this recent time things have really changed, expecting so much from the government as a graduate can lead people into serious problems.  The life we live now is so unpredictable, no one can be sure of practicing their desired career from what they have learnt in school.

I think if people really want to be happy in life, expecially undergraduates and young graduate they should learn not to give all expectations of having living job from the government.  If people create the mindset of being creative and productive in this era they will live a more happy life than putting all expectations of getting a dream job from the government.  A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.

I think the importance of education cannot be denied, because good education gives us more chances to advance in life and get rich opportunities.Education plays a very important role in the development of any country and nation .You are right that if the youth cannot get more education then graduate or under graduate people should try to find alternative sources. Rather, I would say that even highly educated people should learn some skill along with education.I think we can get better results if we work for ourselves instead of working for someone else.

I have often seen highly educated people unemployed, while I have also seen under-matric people living happily after learning a skill. People who prefer to learn a skill and work for themselves with their creative minds rather than relying on the government are often successful, and such people earn even more than employed professionals. However, you have given very good suggestions for the youth and surely by following these suggestions the youth can shape their future.

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October 16, 2023, 11:11:25 AM
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The current global situation is not the same as it was 20 years ago. Earlier when a person could easily expect a good job after completing his varsity life it is not possible anymore. On the one hand, the population has increased along with the competition, on the other hand, the employment opportunities are not increasing. As a result, if the target youths end their academic studies and lead an unemployed life, then it will be a threat to their lives as well as to the country. At this moment every graduate and under graduate should be productive and self employed. Thinking of academic studies to manage personal life and should be proactive and productive otherwise it would be difficult to establish oneself in this competitive world.

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October 16, 2023, 11:13:46 AM
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Do you wish to alter their mindset? Believe me, it's quite challenging. For most people, the 9-to-5 mentality is the path they tread. Creative and productive thinking often faces apprehension due to the associated risks, while working 9-to-5 poses no risk other than perhaps the occasional scolding from the boss, with a steady monthly paycheck being the norm.

From my observations, more individuals tend to utilize their free time for productive pursuits, such as delving into textiles, video editing, photography, or other activities typically linked to their hobbies. Everyone yearns to engage in riskier ventures only when they feel financially secure. And the productive behaviors they undertake often carry high costs. Thus, it's usually their hobbies that bring them joy.

With the economical problems in the society, it doesn't make entrepreneurship the safest zone for everyone. Working 9-5 is also productivity. Division of labor increases productivity. When beginning a business alone it takes up time and requires additional help from people to stand the business firm. So, not everyone can follow that route. They'll prefer to do 9-5 work and grow their skills there. Provided that the employee is been treated well, there is no need of leaving 9-5 to venture into personal business. Many graduates that do corporate works, enjoy it. I'd only advise people who don't enjoy their 9-5 jobs to venture into other businesses. Also, it's important to follow up our skills, such that when we decide to stand alone it won't be a hassle. If the skill turns hobby, then it's a good thing for the person. They can also stay consistent with it, and build strong reputation. On the other hand, most people may not be able to remain consistent even when the skills being exerted is their hobby. Not everyone can be a boss. Some are or become productive, when taking orders from their boss. Such people when left alone to start a small business, they'll fail to do the right thing. Without a mentor, present. I've seen friends, who don't need to entangle themselves with the risk involved in running a business. Hence, they do work hard for the government or boss, not to be yelled at by their boss. It's a matter of orientation and personal behavior in the establishment or company they work.

Currently, it is very necessary to instill an entrepreneurial spirit in undergraduate graduates so that they are not too dependent on work because it is difficult to find work, because what companies need is expertise and experience.
And most of them also have a high sense of prestige, and most of them will refuse if they are accepted into a job that is not in line with their profession and the salary is not appropriate. In fact, that is where his career and success will begin. Because as long as they start from the bottom, they can develop their abilities and also learn from the work they do, so they can be promoted when there are vacancies or they are needed.

That's why entrepreneurship was integrated into the school curriculum, to help undergraduates understand what the labor market looks like. It's funny to say that, students, some, believe they'll get automatically employed after hitting 4.0 and above GPA. And a good number of them get frustrated after performing well in school and faced with no job. It has led many to venture into bad activities that land them into a more difficult life situation. Hence, with entrepreneurship being thought in school, students will easily learn about fresh skills. Build it from school days, until they graduate. At least if they have 2 year skill experience before graduation. They can practice that skill, after school. Earn some funds through it, and improve the quality of the skill. While looking out for a company to work. Luckily, when such a person gets hired s/he will be proficient in the company.

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October 16, 2023, 12:19:41 PM
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Things has really changed unlike before when a graduate is coming out from the university their are job opportunities around the corners, people don't even stress themselves to acquire skills as an alternative just in case they don't get a job. Getting a job as a graduate some years back was a thing never to argue about or think about.  In this recent time things have really changed, expecting so much from the government as a graduate can lead people into serious problems.  The life we live now is so unpredictable, no one can be sure of practicing their desired career from what they have learnt in school.

I think if people really want to be happy in life, expecially undergraduates and young graduate they should learn not to give all expectations of having living job from the government.  If people create the mindset of being creative and productive in this era they will live a more happy life than putting all expectations of getting a dream job from the government.  A productive mindset is what young people needs to make life easy and worth living.

I don't object to what you say, but how can young people understand what you are trying to convey to them? Do you think they will be willing to listen to anyone who gives advice when they have never experienced anything in life? For me, let new graduates experience real life and they will realize what they need to do to develop themselves, to be able to support themselves. Everyone's life is different so it's difficult to give advice, the best way is to let them experience it themselves. What you are saying is from the perception you have experienced in life, so let them realize things for themselves through experience.

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