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October 18, 2023, 03:18:12 PM
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I remember one member who was also from Cuba a few years ago and had similar questions as the OP, and he wrote that the internet in Cuba is very expensive and not available everywhere. According to some information I read, the situation has improved a bit, but I wonder how the OP gets the internet, or whether $2 a day would be enough to cover those costs?

If you do this, you can buy tarjeta Nauta internet, a Nauta Internet scratch card, from numerous shops or even doorways around Cuba.

Many private persons are certified to sell these cards, and they cost 50 CUP (€1,8 or US $1,94) for four hours of browsing online.

There are Etecsa stores in every city and village in Cuba. Etecsa is the governmental telephone and internet provider in Cuba, which has a monopoly on both services on the island. The price of the 1-hour card is €1/CUP 125, and the 5-hour card is €5/CUP 625 for surfing time.

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October 18, 2023, 03:23:16 PM
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I want to clarify something in this forum, because I see that it is something very serious, I am realizing that 90% of the world population is unaware of the reality of Cuba<...>

Hi CryptoDeivid, nfortunately I am aware of the situation in Cuba, mainly because of this Youtuber who emigrated to Spain a year ago:

Anita Mateu

I say unfortunately because it made me realise that the best plan for the vast majority of you in Cuba (except for those who are very close to power) is to emigrate.

I invite you to come by our local Spanish forum as well.




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October 18, 2023, 03:41:59 PM
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If you want to earn online without any upfront investment you'll need to have some special skills that you can render online it could be content creation, virtual assisting, online tutoring and freelancing. If this area are not the best for you develop your crypto knowledge and join signature after you have reach the require member rank.

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October 18, 2023, 03:50:03 PM
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so the minimum wage is around ~$10 and the average is lower than $20.
Hence my question: if someone in Cuba were to earn $20 in Bitcoin, does that mean it gives him more purchasing power than his salary? Or does that add another level of getting screwed somehow?

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October 18, 2023, 05:52:29 PM
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I want to clarify something in this forum, because I see that it is something very serious, I am realizing that 90% of the world population is unaware of the reality of Cuba, the government shows exchange rates that are not real, those numbers are only possible. For the foreigner or tourist who is visiting and can buy things in Cuban pesos, in reality for us each USD costs us 250 pesos, therefore do the respective calculations, NOTHING or NO information that the government shows to the world is REAL, just show something beautiful, a mirage, we Cubans live in a parallel universe
If that's the case, why do you calculate the price of eggs in dollars, and not in pesos? It can't be that a box of eggs costs two thirds of your monthly salary. If that's the case, you'd have starved to death by now. So I'm curious: how many Cuban pesos do you spend on your groceries each month?

Well, it is not fun, I visited Cuba several years ago and I know that it is true. The fact that there are few chickens in the island, importations are restricted, and the Government give a few to each citizen every month make remaining eggs surprisingly expensive and only affordable for tourists.
I've never been there, but I've read about it a few times. It sucks for the people Sad
If eggs would be that expensive, I'd eat something else. I still don't get it though: hatching chickens is no rocket science. If someone has a a few hens and a rooster, they'll basically multiply themselves and eat whatever they can find.

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This is also true: there are extremely different exchange rates for Cuban pesos (for citizens) and USD pegged pesos (for foreigners); 1 to 250 is not what I saw when I was there, but in the last years thing may have worsen to that extent.
So, if a Cuban citizen were to earn 1 mBTC (worth $28.73 at the moment), would he be able to use that money? How many pesos would he get for that? If exchange rates are that twisted, what's the point of converting? Do you need dollars for daily expenses? I don't get it: if trading and imports are expensive, can't the (tropical) country focus on producing for it's own needs? It looks like a beautiful place, and it's such a waste to see it in poverty.

For reference: if I sell 1 mBTC, I'll get €26.10 (after transaction fees). That's enough to buy 88 eggs in a supermarket. And eggs already got a lot more expensive lately, because of inflation and regulation that improves living conditions for chickens.

I gave the example of eggs because it is the food that we used the most in Cuba and it was the cheapest so that from there they can extrapolate and imagine how much any other food would cost, pork is for the ''rich'' here.  it is a luxury, currently 25kg is sold for 153usd ((if we convert those 153usd to Cuban currency at a rate of 200cup, which would be the cheapest you could get it for, it would be about 30,600cup and with a monthly salary of 3,500cup it is impossible)) We eat rice and some fruit like plantain or banana, or rice with legumes like beans, but we don't have other foods, we are an island surrounded by water and yet we haven't tried fish for more than 5 years, how is it possible? Well, all the fish is left for the hotels and tourism, seafood, etc.... and I put it in dollars so you have an idea because I can put it in Cuban pesos which would be about 2500 or 2700, but it is a large number for which doesn't really give you a picture of how much inflation we're talking about. The other thing is that here the government pays us in Cuban pesos, however in the stores they ask us for the MLC currency, it is a virtual one created by themselves whose value is determined by the USD, but the worst thing is not that, if you go to the bank with your Cuban money to buy that MLC currency, you cannot buy it, they do not let you nor can you buy USD so you necessarily end up buying in the informal market, that is, from Cubans who have relatives in other countries and who send dollars to their MLC cards and then they sell you that MLC at the price they deem appropriate to make money.

Excuse my English, I am relying on a translator so that you can understand me as best as possible.
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October 18, 2023, 06:14:22 PM
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I remember one member who was also from Cuba a few years ago and had similar questions as the OP, and he wrote that the internet in Cuba is very expensive and not available everywhere. According to some information I read, the situation has improved a bit, but I wonder how the OP gets the internet, or whether $2 a day would be enough to cover those costs?

If you do this, you can buy tarjeta Nauta internet, a Nauta Internet scratch card, from numerous shops or even doorways around Cuba.

Many private persons are certified to sell these cards, and they cost 50 CUP (€1,8 or US $1,94) for four hours of browsing online.

There are Etecsa stores in every city and village in Cuba. Etecsa is the governmental telephone and internet provider in Cuba, which has a monopoly on both services on the island. The price of the 1-hour card is €1/CUP 125, and the 5-hour card is €5/CUP 625 for surfing time.

Currently the internet is one of the worst services that the government provides us, unlike other countries you have several companies that offer internet service so there is always competition among them to win over more people, here there is only one, monopolizing the telecommunications service, Etecsa, that's what it's called, and it's also of very, very bad quality (to give you an idea, to talk to you and write to you I have to go out into the street to send responses and read them, well within The signal does not reach my house, we only use mobile data, there is no Wi-Fi inside the houses, the coverage is very bad) Therefore things like playing to win money or something that requires my constant internet connection is impossible. In addition to the connection being slow, it costs us 250 pesos for a 3.5GB data plan, which you must consume within a period of 30 days otherwise you lose it, but not only that, they have increased consumption, if you watch a video that It should consume 30mb because it consumes maybe 50mb or 60mb, almost double, they do it with the objective that you run out faster and buy again, I only use textual things that is, Whatsapp to communicate by messages since they consume very little, or forums like this, that is, nothing that uploads images or videos, otherwise if I did it would run out in a matter of 5 or 6 days. Guys, it is quite difficult to live in Cuba, I just warn you from the bottom of my heart that you never come to visit, it is not worth spending the money that you have earned by working hard to spend it in a country that offers bad service. ((On top of that, the government tells us on TV and radio that all the money collected and obtained from tourism is used for our improvement and it is a lie, they keep it all!!))
I want to take advantage of talking something about the YouTubers in Cuba who have been able to leave the country, many were imprisoned or their right to internet service was taken away because they showed the reality here and obviously it was a negative image that did not suit the government, this is a dictatorship, a wrong image has always been given, nothing that is shown on official pages is real. If I made videos on a YouTube channel about things about my country, they would come and question me to know for what purpose I did it and if I mentioned something that was not beneficial for them... well, I already mentioned what happens.
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October 18, 2023, 06:32:15 PM
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therefore I would like someone to please advise me on a page where I could work without investments, such as a faucet that is worth it or something that allows me to generate $2 a day because per month it would be almost $60 and as you can see that exceeds by far my salary in my country and it would help me a lot.
$60 a month is still not so big, you only see that amount as big because you have not started earning such yet. You can earn more from learning other important skills like trading since mining may be difficult to start. With what you earn, maybe you will be able to find a mentor or academy to help you learn the basics and have a good foundation. In less than a year, with serious dedication, you should be able to earn and make more profit than what you will earn from signatures and bounties. It is also a lifelong skill that can assure you consistent financial benefit if you stay dedicated to learning.

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October 19, 2023, 03:34:02 AM
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Hence my question: if someone in Cuba were to earn $20 in Bitcoin, does that mean it gives him more purchasing power than his salary? Or does that add another level of getting screwed somehow?

I do not know the ways to use Bitcoin in Cuba to buy things, where I imagine there are not many options, but I understand that to exchange Bitcoin for local money, at least in the big cities, there are. Actually, looking at coinmap, there are some places to pay with Bitcoin and even some ATM in the capital, so anyone who earns $50 a week in signature campaigns in the forum has a purchasing power 10 times greater than a skilled professional in Cuba, where most depend on remittances from relatives abroad to subsist.

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The first thing I can sense from your request is that you are desperate at this point and its leading you to a great mistake if you're not careful, and from your tone of request, you don't sound vibrant and exposed. I surely reflects laziness and I encourage you not to be lazy in thinking and acting. You're looking for a revenue generating model without investment. I'll correct you my dear, there is no such thing as something for nothing, you must be ready to sacrifice something special to achieve success. Those faucets might end up disappointing you in the long run and you would've lost valuable time engaging in them and increase your frustration. I will advise you to learn a skill instead and consider freelancing with maybe Upwork, Fiver or others. You can upskill in possibly copywriting, which you can do with just your phone. Graciously, there are some free good trainings on YouTube that can get you started. Give yourself four to six months of consistent learning and you're good and earning some cool cash in it while engaging in forum activities and ranking up until you are set for signature campaigns as a side hustle. You will succeed, that I know, but you need to work harder and smarter.

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October 19, 2023, 11:52:17 AM
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Currently the internet is one of the worst services that the government provides us, unlike other countries you have several companies that offer internet service so there is always competition among them to win over more people, here there is only one, monopolizing the telecommunications service, Etecsa, that's what it's called, and it's also of very, very bad quality --- I only use textual things that is, Whatsapp to communicate by messages since they consume very little, or forums like this, that is, nothing that uploads images or videos, otherwise if I did it would run out in a matter of 5 or 6 days.

Taking into account the price of the internet and its availability, do you think it could be profitable for you to do something online? As far as it seems to me from what you wrote, you are quite limited in terms of how you can use the internet, which means that there is not much left that you can do online as a kind of work.

Guys, it is quite difficult to live in Cuba, I just warn you from the bottom of my heart that you never come to visit, it is not worth spending the money that you have earned by working hard to spend it in a country that offers bad service. ((On top of that, the government tells us on TV and radio that all the money collected and obtained from tourism is used for our improvement and it is a lie, they keep it all!!))

I won't say that you are not telling the truth because you live in that country, but is it possible that you are not objective with regard to your personal experience? One of the most famous journalists from my country (but also from abroad), Goran Milic, made a documentary about Cuba (Cuba si, Cuba no) and as far as I remember, what he recorded there and concluded from talking to people doesn't look so black.

Besides, isn't it a bit destructive to invite tourists not to come to your country as if it will make things better? Aren't these same tourists also spending by buying food, drinks and souvenirs from ordinary people who can earn something that way?

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Taking into account the price of the internet and its availability, do you think it could be profitable for you to do something online? As far as it seems to me from what you wrote, you are quite limited in terms of how you can use the internet, which means that there is not much left that you can do online as a kind of work.

He is still able to access valuable, textual information, and he can also create and publish textual content, so IMO there are still many works he can do.

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I won't say that you are not telling the truth because you live in that country, but is it possible that you are not objective with regard to your personal experience? One of the most famous journalists from my country (but also from abroad), Goran Milic, made a documentary about Cuba (Cuba si, Cuba no) and as far as I remember, what he recorded there and concluded from talking to people doesn't look so black.

Besides, isn't it a bit destructive to invite tourists not to come to your country as if it will make things better? Aren't these same tourists also spending by buying food, drinks and souvenirs from ordinary people who can earn something that way?

I agree with you, even if it was true that most of the money charged by the state wasn't used to improve the citizen's life, indirectly there are many ways to make money out from tourists (creating little restaurants in your home called paladares, providing little casual services in exchange of a little (not do little for the Cubans) tip...

But I have to say that all Cubans I have met in my life, both in the island and those who came to live in Spain, all of them talk really bad about the life conditions there.

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The first thing I can sense from your request is that you are desperate at this point and its leading you to a great mistake if you're not careful, and from your tone of request, you don't sound vibrant and exposed. I surely reflects laziness and I encourage you not to be lazy in thinking and acting. You're looking for a revenue generating model without investment. I'll correct you my dear, there is no such thing as something for nothing, you must be ready to sacrifice something special to achieve success. Those faucets might end up disappointing you in the long run and you would've lost valuable time engaging in them and increase your frustration. I will advise you to learn a skill instead and consider freelancing with maybe Upwork, Fiver or others. You can upskill in possibly copywriting, which you can do with just your phone. Graciously, there are some free good trainings on YouTube that can get you started. Give yourself four to six months of consistent learning and you're good and earning some cool cash in it while engaging in forum activities and ranking up until you are set for signature campaigns as a side hustle. You will succeed, that I know, but you need to work harder and smarter.

A few days ago I was looking for pages where I could offer 3D graphic design or translation services, logo design or styles or images that could later be used in other products such as clothing, but pages like Fiverr, Workana, Upwork I just opened right now but They are not accessible in my country, they are blocked for Cuba, many of the pages that you have suggested do not open to me, only with VPN, but it is impossible to use them because the connection becomes even slower. It's not that I don't have the desire to work, if that were the case I wouldn't be here, of course there is some desperation, it is overwhelming to live this way where at only 28 years old you live in a country where you have no future because every year it gets worse and There is no improvement and you cannot leave either, it is a prison shaped like an island. If I am open to trying everything, I have already been doing it, but there are many obstacles that we have from Cuba when browsing the internet, it is very limited. Even so, I continue reading them and trying every method they give me.
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October 20, 2023, 09:34:34 AM
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It's not that I don't have the desire to work, if that were the case I wouldn't be here, of course there is some desperation, it is overwhelming to live this way where at only 28 years old you live in a country where you have no future because every year it gets worse and There is no improvement and you cannot leave either, it is a prison shaped like an island. If I am open to trying everything, I have already been doing it, but there are many obstacles that we have from Cuba when browsing the internet, it is very limited. Even so, I continue reading them and trying every method they give me.


What do you mean you can't leave? Then how did all those other Cubans leave and today live all over the world? If you really want to change something, then it's hard to achieve it this way, because if the situation in your country is so bad, the only way out is to move somewhere else.

I live in Europe, and since my country became a member of the EU, at least half a million people have left the country in search of a better life. The one who wants to do something always finds a way.

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pages like Fiverr, Workana, Upwork I just opened right now but They are not accessible in my country, they are blocked for Cuba
Could that be because of sanctions? Or because of this:
To employ in Cuba, companies must own a local legal entity in the country or work with a global employment solution. Developing the processes required to manage payroll, benefits, taxes, and onboarding in countries like Cuba can get complicated fast, especially without localized expertise.

I noticed this:
Excuse my English, I am relying on a translator so that you can understand me as best as possible.
I was looking for pages where I could offer ~ translation services
Nobody is looking for a remote translater who uses machine translation.

If it would be easy, many companies would hire cheap remote workers. If that would happen, rates would go up. You're basically competing with cheap remote workers in much easier countries.

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It's not that I don't have the desire to work, if that were the case I wouldn't be here, of course there is some desperation, it is overwhelming to live this way where at only 28 years old you live in a country where you have no future because every year it gets worse and There is no improvement and you cannot leave either, it is a prison shaped like an island. If I am open to trying everything, I have already been doing it, but there are many obstacles that we have from Cuba when browsing the internet, it is very limited. Even so, I continue reading them and trying every method they give me.


What do you mean you can't leave? Then how did all those other Cubans leave and today live all over the world? If you really want to change something, then it's hard to achieve it this way, because if the situation in your country is so bad, the only way out is to move somewhere else.

I live in Europe, and since my country became a member of the EU, at least half a million people have left the country in search of a better life. The one who wants to do something always finds a way.

I will briefly explain something about my country regarding this: the economy is a total failure, doctors do not have basic supplies to work in addition to the very low salary, so no one wants to work for the government, therefore the country is in a moment in which it does not have enough doctors and therefore the Cuban state has restricted all medical categories and specialties with a resolution that regulates their departure, prohibiting them from leaving the country to keep them trapped here and they necessarily have to work. That's what I mean, there are other Cubans who have left the country, yes, illegally, on boats, putting their lives at risk by sea since Cuba is an island, the sea is the only means of escape, the Cubans who leave It is because they have studied any other career or do not belong to the Cuban health system and many of them have relatives in other countries who lend them money to fill out all the paperwork in the relevant embassies (paying people, corruption) to validate their documents and go through 3rd countries and/or crossing borders.
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Hello, I live in Cuba and I am 28 years old, a few days ago I made a post asking for advice on cloud mining, I see that it is a scam no matter how you look at it, so here my monthly salary is about 3,500 Cuban pesos, which is equivalent to 12 dollars approximately, therefore I would like someone to please advise me on a page where I could work without investments, such as a faucet that is worth it or something that allows me to generate $2 a day because per month it would be almost $60 and as you can see that exceeds by far my salary in my country and it would help me a lot. THANKS FROM THE HEART TO EVERYONE WHO HAVE RESPONDED TO ME PREVIOUSLY

There would be a better option for you is the signature campaigns that are happening on bitcoinTalk, for which you have to learn from the users who have up ranks like I can say Legendary. Just follow them and see their interaction and how they post and first of all read the forum rules to get more knowledge about the bitcoinTalk Forum. As it is necessary before you start your journey a this forum. Also, that will give you more than 100$ per week but for which you have to work hard and you have to make better posts and the posts should be quality. Spamming or other things can't give you merit, so you have to earn merit and work for it with your heart. I hope you will see after some time your rank up and you will easily join the signature campaign that will pay you even Weekly or some of them that pay after the end of their bounty Programs.
I don't even think trading would be a better solution for you at this stage and this salary.

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October 20, 2023, 06:48:09 PM
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Hello, I live in Cuba and I am 28 years old, a few days ago I made a post asking for advice on cloud mining, I see that it is a scam no matter how you look at it, so here my monthly salary is about 3,500 Cuban pesos, which is equivalent to 12 dollars approximately, therefore I would like someone to please advise me on a page where I could work without investments, such as a faucet that is worth it or something that allows me to generate $2 a day because per month it would be almost $60 and as you can see that exceeds by far my salary in my country and it would help me a lot. THANKS FROM THE HEART TO EVERYONE WHO HAVE RESPONDED TO ME PREVIOUSLY

Honestly, the salary you receive per month is very small when compared to what my country gives to workers. with the equivalent of $12 you can meet your daily needs?

You are lucky to be able to join this forum because there are many BTC paid campaigns that can pay you around $ 1 just for each post you make. You must be able to focus on making your account's reputation good, never commit plagiarism or make spam posts. As for cloud mining, it's currently not profitable at all, it's better if you just leave it, focus on what's real.



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I remember one member who was also from Cuba a few years ago and had similar questions as the OP, and he wrote that the internet in Cuba is very expensive and not available everywhere. According to some information I read, the situation has improved a bit, but I wonder how the OP gets the internet, or whether $2 a day would be enough to cover those costs?

If you do this, you can buy tarjeta Nauta internet, a Nauta Internet scratch card, from numerous shops or even doorways around Cuba.

Many private persons are certified to sell these cards, and they cost 50 CUP (€1,8 or US $1,94) for four hours of browsing online.

There are Etecsa stores in every city and village in Cuba. Etecsa is the governmental telephone and internet provider in Cuba, which has a monopoly on both services on the island. The price of the 1-hour card is €1/CUP 125, and the 5-hour card is €5/CUP 625 for surfing time.

That's interesting (and off-topic) but this probably is the thing that they tell you on many podcasts about bitcoin. That bitcoin's price has a potential many people fail to recognize and that potential lies in countries where internet is hard to access, expensive, or literally inaccessible, unless via a mobile phone, which can be painful to use.

If you're looking for $2 a day, you could try translating texts to spanish, or teaching courses online. Youtube or tiktok videos can get you more than that if you know how to attract viewers. A signature campaign can easily (even for a full member) get you $2 a day. I feel like you could make $2 a day collecting scrap, or sweeping the streets.
Try washing cars, buy a wet vacuum cleaner, or a pressure washer and wash cars. You can easily make some money this way.

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I remember one member who was also from Cuba a few years ago and had similar questions as the OP, and he wrote that the internet in Cuba is very expensive and not available everywhere. According to some information I read, the situation has improved a bit, but I wonder how the OP gets the internet, or whether $2 a day would be enough to cover those costs?

If you do this, you can buy tarjeta Nauta internet, a Nauta Internet scratch card, from numerous shops or even doorways around Cuba.

Many private persons are certified to sell these cards, and they cost 50 CUP (€1,8 or US $1,94) for four hours of browsing online.

There are Etecsa stores in every city and village in Cuba. Etecsa is the governmental telephone and internet provider in Cuba, which has a monopoly on both services on the island. The price of the 1-hour card is €1/CUP 125, and the 5-hour card is €5/CUP 625 for surfing time.

That's interesting (and off-topic) but this probably is the thing that they tell you on many podcasts about bitcoin. That bitcoin's price has a potential many people fail to recognize and that potential lies in countries where internet is hard to access, expensive, or literally inaccessible, unless via a mobile phone, which can be painful to use.

If you're looking for $2 a day, you could try translating texts to spanish, or teaching courses online. Youtube or tiktok videos can get you more than that if you know how to attract viewers. A signature campaign can easily (even for a full member) get you $2 a day. I feel like you could make $2 a day collecting scrap, or sweeping the streets.
Try washing cars, buy a wet vacuum cleaner, or a pressure washer and wash cars. You can easily make some money this way.

No, friend, in my country that doesn't work like that, that would be normal in other countries, here those activities are not done nor are they monetized if you did them either.
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