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October 18, 2023, 09:52:59 PM
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I don't think the guy actually owns the car but the plates on the car are New Jersey - 12845QQ and he gave me a name of Damon Eden

Did you find this add on Facebook?

Was this 1967 Chevrolet Nova SS PROJECT for $15000?
How did you contact the seller?

Did you use messenger?

Usually there's some trace the police could follow.
If he told you he was the owner of the car and scammed you, that's a matter for the police, pretty much like if you gave him cash and he bailed.

The good thing is that  taufik123 had traced the transaction where the possible true identity of the scammer can be identified since the BTC was sent to a Binance account.  If @OP wanted to pursue the case and wanted the scammer apprehended he can then ask a the court for an order so that Binance will disclose the owner of the stated address. 

It might be more costly but it will possibly prevent future scam done by this person.

The trouble of chasing this scammer may not be worth as it is not big money.
However, that is true, this will serve as a good lesson to the OP not to trust strangers over the net.
If you want to be sure of your transactions, better deal with reliable platforms or better yet, pay it physically and see what's in it for you.
In today's world, so much fraud has been happening over cyberspace and you are the one responsible not to be victimized with such.
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October 18, 2023, 09:56:51 PM
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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC
This is one reason why some people are afraid to use online transactions and BTC, especially when it is already a huge amount. Although we can trace the wallet where we send our money and point out who is the owner of that wallet is hard to prove. It is a big mistake and it was hard to take your money back, maybe you consider it lost money already. You are not just a victim of a scam but also, a victim of trusting someone who can't be trusted as well. Maybe if you make DP in front of that person, I don't think he could run away with the money.

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October 18, 2023, 11:06:38 PM
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The trouble of chasing this scammer may not be worth as it is not big money.
It may not seem like a lot of money to you, but to some people, it is very valuable.
If the OP wants to develop this fraud case, she can actually report it to the authorities.

But the problem is, will this get a good response from the authorities?
Because if only one case like this is not followed by many reports of fraud on the same person or method, they do not process cases properly.
It takes several other victims to make the process faster and investigate immediately.

If you want to be sure of your transactions, better deal with reliable platforms or better yet, pay it physically and see what's in it for you.
In today's world, so much fraud has been happening over cyberspace and you are the one responsible not to be victimized with such.
You can choose a trusted escrow that is widely available on this forum, or use a recommended online shopping platform escrow.
There are actually many safer payment methods for sellers and buyers.

Many types of scams like this will eventually harm the victim and they continue to change identities and start scamming other victims.
In fact, they are also organized and have a group.
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October 18, 2023, 11:40:58 PM
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I think this is what you are looking for - 7ff518aae3b8c95c530410aff6c37601c8a3cfda65cd960c3ad63a0551ac57a6

There's no way to reverse this transaction it has already had 454 confirmations. Only 0 confirmation can still be reversible.

How did you find this guy?
If you have more other info than wallet ID and transaction you can maybe still able to find that guy.
Like the full name or a plate number of the car if the guy gives you some pics of this car?

I don't think the guy actually owns the car but the plates on the car are New Jersey - 12845QQ and he gave me a name of Damon Eden
Bad and sad at the same time,  but you have to move on while still trying to recover your money which at this point is near impossible since the transaction os already confirmed and coins arrived at the scammer's wallet this is what we have to know before making a transactions,  I advise you that it do best you first of all make some research about the car to know whether or not he truly own the car or he just snap a random plat number and sent to you.

But to be honest with you, you did not do well because how can you send someone you don't know or haven't met before such an amount,  or deposits,  when you have not even had a physical inspection on the car to see if it did meet the value or verify it documents to be sure you are not buying an accident car or even buy a stolen car.

So it is better to make such purchases directly from the car stands that have a registered company and have some good reputations in the car dealing business.
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October 18, 2023, 11:53:37 PM
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Whenever you read stories like this I feel it is important to remember that it wasn’t some failure of a protocol or software bug that lead to this rip off occurring. It was just a standard run of the mill scammer that happened to find a victim willing to send funds online in a non-reversible fashion. Let his mistake be your education.

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October 18, 2023, 11:54:15 PM
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Too many questions yet OP doesn't seem like to be online again. And again, when it comes to transaction like this, since this is a physical item that needs a thorough check with a mechanic engineer, highly recommended is to do the transaction offline, at least the other person is there when transferring money online.

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October 19, 2023, 12:41:38 AM
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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC

Do you mean you want to buy a car now? You gave a downpayment via bitcoin using your Electrum wallet account even though you don't have the car you want to buy yet. If I said this correctly, I think you did it wrong.

Why didn't you pay when you actually took the car? The way I said that this is more safe than the one you sent the down payment right away, you moved a little wrong here in my assessment of you. The wallet ID and txid can't do anything for you to recover what you sent him.



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October 19, 2023, 01:06:52 AM
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hopefully you are in good condition, the bitcoin you sent for the down payment of the purchase was with someone you know, or the transaction was made face to face? if you know the information of the fraudster, either his home, office he works / photo identity before deciding? you can try to report to the authorities and the money and investment protection agency in your country, I am sure every country has protection.

However, if to ask for your bitcoin back by withdrawing or canceling from the blockchain it is not possible for this decentralized transaction, because there is no managing body / organization that validates the manual to continue, cancel and control an action in bitcoin.

I just found a transaction that I think is this big, I have transacted with than 50$ and I feel this is really amazing with fast transactions. decentralization is the future.









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October 19, 2023, 01:51:04 AM
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Whenever you read stories like this I feel it is important to remember that it wasn’t some failure of a protocol or software bug that lead to this rip off occurring. It was just a standard run of the mill scammer that happened to find a victim willing to send funds online in a non-reversible fashion. Let his mistake be your education.
Let's also see that the victim is also to blame. Remember,  there's no scammer if there is to be scamming, as he says he doesn't have any information about the recipient, and even if he does, there's no way to trace who's the owner of that address. That's why there are so many scammers out there because they know that some people can be easily fooled. I'm not victim-blaming here, but that's the fact: before sending money or your asset, you have the responsibility to assess first if the person with whom you're in a transaction is legitimate and trustworthy. You should conduct an assessment and also ask for proof or anything else that could identify the legitimacy of the person. This will serve as his lesson, but what about the others? We should spread awareness about this matter, especially about cryptocurrency-related transactions.

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Too many questions yet OP doesn't seem like to be online again. And again, when it comes to transaction like this, since this is a physical item that needs a thorough check with a mechanic engineer, highly recommended is to do the transaction offline, at least the other person is there when transferring money online.

This is a transaction that OP should have met in person to discuss and transact on the spot, but it is difficult to understand why OP could transact online with a stranger that he did not know before. I don't mean to be suspicious but OP's story is unbelievable, I guess OP is investing or buying and selling bitcoin more than he is buying a car. But unfortunately, as soon as he entered the market, he immediately encountered a scammer. Everyone will make mistakes when starting their career and that is also considered a lesson for him.

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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC
You are not telling the complete story here because how did it happened that a random Guy was just received Bitcoin from you like that?

Looks like you are just asking to take that Bitcoin back or you wanted to take that bitcoin for all that matter or reason .

though it has been said completely from above , that you are rigged and nothing you can do to take it back , maybe Unless if you have contract that he did not follow so the police may interfere .

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October 19, 2023, 07:35:50 AM
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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC
A guy? Who is this "GUY" that you're saying? Where did you know this guy? Online? If yes, then... I guess you learned a lesson from there.

You sent a stranger almost $1500 hoping that you will get your dream car, but that dream became a pain for you because you got scammed. There isn't any way to recover your money. A transaction is only reversible if it has 0 confirmation still. It doesn't matter if you have the wallet address of the scammer or the transaction ID of the transfer. Unless you can track the scammer thru it's past transaction on his wallet address, there's no way that you can at least know who it is.

Overall, just forget about it. I will say it again. Learning really is very expensive. Just a few weeks ago I saw somebody lost I think 6-digit amount because he got scammed. Now another one got scammed in a different way. I hope you learned from this one. Smiley

Wait. Did really this happen to you OP? I mean how in the hell you gave that amount to a random stranger? Kindly share it here. Smiley

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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC
This is the painful way to learn ,

- First to never trust strangers(as how you mentioned whom you trusted)

- Second to Never Send crypto when you are not so sure because it is not reversible .

- Third is to tell true story , because it seems to us that you are not telling if not all truth here.


Wait. Did really this happen to you OP? I mean how in the hell you gave that amount to a random stranger? Kindly share it here. Smiley
Like you mate, upon reading the thread? i am not convinced that what he said is correct(at least some part are story telling)









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October 19, 2023, 08:28:19 AM
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Whenever you read stories like this I feel it is important to remember that it wasn’t some failure of a protocol or software bug that lead to this rip off occurring. It was just a standard run of the mill scammer that happened to find a victim willing to send funds online in a non-reversible fashion. Let his mistake be your education.

Things like this are common because most of their victims listen to their nonsense and take their bait about their good-to-be-true offers. Well, the only good thing about this story as you said is to learn from them because they really exist in this world and they are willing to use every trick in the book just to fool their victims. Thankfully, as he said, it's just a small amount, and looks like he can afford to lose it.

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October 19, 2023, 08:48:56 AM
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This is an ugly experience that people can experience in the crypto world and so sorry that you happened to fall victim to it.
I will urge you to move on and take it as a lesson, become more cautious of the people you deal with online, and never put total confidence and trust in the people you meet online.

The chance that you would recover these funds is tiny, as it will even tend to cost you more stress in trying to recover it, and it could be more possible if the scammer used an exchange wallet to run the shit or receive the fund, which I do think the scammer will be most stupid at doing that.

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Whenever you read stories like this I feel it is important to remember that it wasn’t some failure of a protocol or software bug that lead to this rip off occurring. It was just a standard run of the mill scammer that happened to find a victim willing to send funds online in a non-reversible fashion. Let his mistake be your education.

Things like this are common because most of their victims listen to their nonsense and take their bait about their good-to-be-true offers. Well, the only good thing about this story as you said is to learn from them because they really exist in this world and they are willing to use every trick in the book just to fool their victims. Thankfully, as he said, it's just a small amount, and looks like he can afford to lose it.

This can be avoidable if they made the payment to the right venue where they can meet up and sign the documents legally. But if they made the transaction online and tell that later on he can get the unit he bought from that guy then this is totally risky condition. Now he understand why we need to be aware about this scamming happened and his unfortunate experience maybe a learning experience to him also to other that they should never believe to anyone especially if there's money involve in the discussion.

This is harsh incident but since it really happen then there's nothing he can do with that money lose for side of OP and he should be more careful next time if he want to deal something with his crypto balance or even with fiat he have.

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October 19, 2023, 10:19:53 AM
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Whenever you read stories like this I feel it is important to remember that it wasn’t some failure of a protocol or software bug that lead to this rip off occurring. It was just a standard run of the mill scammer that happened to find a victim willing to send funds online in a non-reversible fashion. Let his mistake be your education.

Things like this are common because most of their victims listen to their nonsense and take their bait about their good-to-be-true offers. Well, the only good thing about this story as you said is to learn from them because they really exist in this world and they are willing to use every trick in the book just to fool their victims. Thankfully, as he said, it's just a small amount, and looks like he can afford to lose it.

This can be avoidable if they made the payment to the right venue where they can meet up and sign the documents legally. But if they made the transaction online and tell that later on he can get the unit he bought from that guy then this is totally risky condition. Now he understand why we need to be aware about this scamming happened and his unfortunate experience maybe a learning experience to him also to other that they should never believe to anyone especially if there's money involve in the discussion.

This is harsh incident but since it really happen then there's nothing he can do with that money lose for side of OP and he should be more careful next time if he want to deal something with his crypto balance or even with fiat he have.
For transactions involving money, especially cryptocurrency that can change quickly and cant be reversed, its important to do p2p and have legal proof to back up the deal. Many people still do risky things online without having solid guarantees. Thats not just a mistake; its a clear disregard for the widespread nature of online fraud today.

Speaking from experience, its simple: being careful is the most important thing. Nevertheless, as well-informed Internet users, isnt it our shared duty to keep pointing out the risks? Assemble the tools we need to tell the difference between real and fake deals. OP's loss isnt just a personal tragedy; its an important reminder of how bad it is to overlook safety issues. Dealing digitally requires not only being aware of security issues but also working hard to fix them all the time.

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Too many questions yet OP doesn't seem like to be online again. And again, when it comes to transaction like this, since this is a physical item that needs a thorough check with a mechanic engineer, highly recommended is to do the transaction offline, at least the other person is there when transferring money online.

Some people seem to be victims of those who make blind transactions, and they get to trust someone easily. I believe that was just the OP's mistake. He got an advertisement for a product that someone wants to sell online. He liked the product online without even any doubt, and he quickly got convinced since the plate number of the car was visible.
 
After all, the plate number can be used to track the car, forgetting the fact that someone can just go anywhere and snap any car they want and paste it online without any proper verification. If the seller is truly the owner, anyone can just get scammed if they are not careful enough. I have seen cases like that mostly on the internet more often.

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October 19, 2023, 11:03:49 AM
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I sent a guy a down payment on a car. I use a program called Electrum. After I sent him the money I figured out I was being scammed. Do I have any recourse? Any way to recover my money?

I do have the guys wallet ID and the transaction ID.

Thankfully is was only 55.58663 mBTC

There is no chance that your funds will get back once you send to the other address, can you elaborate more what happened with your conversation?. Actually, you can report this guy if you meet him and seek for the number registered with your conversation its on the use of the sim registration now. Still it was a big lose man, try to file a case as possible so still possible to identify the master mind of this kind of scam.

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October 19, 2023, 03:55:49 PM
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Too many questions yet OP doesn't seem like to be online again. And again, when it comes to transaction like this, since this is a physical item that needs a thorough check with a mechanic engineer, highly recommended is to do the transaction offline, at least the other person is there when transferring money online.

Some people seem to be victims of those who make blind transactions, and they get to trust someone easily. I believe that was just the OP's mistake. He got an advertisement for a product that someone wants to sell online. He liked the product online without even any doubt, and he quickly got convinced since the plate number of the car was visible.
 
After all, the plate number can be used to track the car, forgetting the fact that someone can just go anywhere and snap any car they want and paste it online without any proper verification. If the seller is truly the owner, anyone can just get scammed if they are not careful enough. I have seen cases like that mostly on the internet more often.
OP made the mistake of trusting the seller so easily. That leaves him to make a rush decision on buying the car. Maybe after seeing the car in pictures, he got excited and immediately made a reservation for the car. There's a possibility that OP did this kind of transaction for the first time, specifically a car, that's why he sends a down payment without even checking the car physically. When purchasing a car or doing any other transaction, better to check the legitimacy of every information that needs to obtain prior to sending money to another party to avoid getting scammed.



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