Sad to see such manipulations in this market.

[tetaeridanus]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.


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[Oshosondy]

Did you think there is manipulation in what that happened yesterday as the price of bitcoin increased from $27500 to $30000 and decreased back no quite long to $28500? Try to always know what is going on. There was a rumour yesterday that SEC has approved spot bitcoin ETF was the reason and after people knew it was not true, the market fell back.

[yudi09]

I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

No matter how strong they play their role in manipulating market prices, in the end they will not be able to stop it when the market enters a bullish phase.
It won't surprise holders if Bitcoin (BTC) prices return to the $26,500 range. In fact, it will be an opportunity to increase the number of Bitcoin holdings in your wallet.
What is regrettable is that altcoin voters are against this game of manipulation.

[stompix]

Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top.

Small investors should stop playing with leverage and reacting to any FOMO trend.
If you're playing with your lunch money better go and buy food with it, not risk it in a volatile market!

And not just them, but everyone should stop blaming everyone else but themselves for these losses

This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later.

Ironically you're the one here spreading rumours about manipulation and painting a bad image of BTC

[tetaeridanus]

Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top.

Small investors should stop playing with leverage and reacting to any FOMO trend.
If you're playing with your lunch money better go and buy food with it, not risk it in a volatile market!

And not just them, but everyone should stop blaming everyone else but themselves for these losses

This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later.

Ironically you're the one here spreading rumours about manipulation and painting a bad image of BTC

I'm not a small player if you are asking my friend.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Small investors should stop playing with leverage and reacting to any FOMO trend.
If you're playing with your lunch money better go and buy food with it, not risk it in a volatile market!

Especially small investors who exclude themselves from the casinos, do whatever it takes to keep betting, and when they can no longer find a way to bet in the casinos, they move on to betting short on the crypto market, because they can't exclude themselves from that one.

And not just them, but everyone should stop blaming everyone else but themselves for these losses

The OP knows a lot about that.

[stompix]

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Especially small investors who exclude themselves from the casinos, do whatever it takes to keep betting, and when they can no longer find a way to bet in the casinos, they move on to betting short on the crypto market, because they can't exclude themselves from that one.

Oh my bad, I should have known, it's always like this, I'm even afraid to check posting histories anymore, the one starting a topic on giving advice is in deeper trouble than any of us! So, seeing this:

Years later im in debt to loan sharks

let me rephrase it:

People should first treat their own addictions, then they should learn to stop borrowing money for addiction or investment and only then they should talk about manipulation and others, If you can't control your own actions knowing well that they are faulty then why the hell would you try trading when it's basically gambling on what news are coming out next day?

I'm not a small player if you are asking my friend.

Yeah, you're right, you know how we call someone who borrows money from loan sharks and loses it all in a day? Big player

[bittraffic]

Bears were liquidated in the leverage market. At some point, I think the fake news did something good so that these bears will learn lessons. If there is anything like this happening and it's still fake news, everyone in the leverage market should really wait for confirmation before taking action.

Cointelegraph was already sorry for the post about it without verifying the source. https://cointelegraph.com/news/clarification-sharing-false-spot-bitcoin-etf-news
It was well timed though that people were expecting something like the approval of it while the SEC didn't appeal.
A bit fun to watch and the price is actually staying at $28k so it actually did a good pump.

[tetaeridanus]

Bears were liquidated in the leverage market. At some point, I think the fake news did something good so that these bears will learn lessons. If there is anything like this happening and it's still fake news, everyone in the leverage market should really wait for confirmation before taking action.

Cointelegraph was already sorry for the post about it without verifying the source. https://cointelegraph.com/news/clarification-sharing-false-spot-bitcoin-etf-news
It was well timed though that people were expecting something like the approval of it while the SEC didn't appeal.
A bit fun to watch and the price is actually staying at $28k so it actually did a good pump.

Thanks for your nice reply sir.

[YOSHIE]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top.

In my opinion, these investors are easily influenced psychologically by other people, so that they lose in calculating the spot trades they make, My current assessment is that the crypto market is not friendly, so be careful of market manipulation or behavior carried out by irresponsible people.

Try to make your own speculation on Bitcoin and the current crypto market, ignoring all the tempting questions and profits, which in the end we can lose and be miserable, The current crypto situation is a little difficult to say for real, whoever is involved in the crypto world, the decision is up to them, said one Bitcoin expert.

Predictions & Speculation are currently a mess, maybe if you look more outside of Predictions & Speculation, you could say it's crazy, it will take the next 10-20 years for Bitcoin's development, but it has been predicted that next year's level will be so and so, it's not something that can't happen, but thinking logically and with common sense, everything is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand.

[rhomelmabini]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

I guess that cointelegraph said was true and they just hidden it by now, whoever posted that tweet might have been scolded or worst fired. Manipulation is present anywhere else and what more to just an emerging market? The market reacted simply and what more if that news was indeed true, it could be a parabolic run considering a lot of people are expecting as well that spot Bitcoin ETF especially in the US. I don't think that fake news was to see it as scam, it has long been know that manipulation and volatility around Bitcoin is always present considering it's not regulated fully.

[tetaeridanus]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

I guess that cointelegraph said was true and they just hidden it by now, whoever posted that tweet might have been scolded or worst fired. Manipulation is present anywhere else and what more to just an emerging market? The market reacted simply and what more if that news was indeed true, it could be a parabolic run considering a lot of people are expecting as well that spot Bitcoin ETF especially in the US. I don't think that fake news was to see it as scam, it has long been know that manipulation and volatility around Bitcoin is always present considering it's not regulated fully.

Creating fake news and insider trading is a fraudalent behavior; not entitled to opinions unlike the poster who tried to turn the topic into my own life struggles; I won't be replying that type of posters from now on; If I did I would go as the same level of intelligence and humanity.

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Especially small investors who exclude themselves from the casinos, do whatever it takes to keep betting, and when they can no longer find a way to bet in the casinos, they move on to betting short on the crypto market, because they can't exclude themselves from that one.

Oh my bad, I should have known, it's always like this, I'm even afraid to check posting histories anymore, the one starting a topic on giving advice is in deeper trouble than any of us! So, seeing this:

Years later im in debt to loan sharks

let me rephrase it:

People should first treat their own addictions, then they should learn to stop borrowing money for addiction or investment and only then they should talk about manipulation and others, If you can't control your own actions knowing well that they are faulty then why the hell would you try trading when it's basically gambling on what news are coming out next day?

I'm not a small player if you are asking my friend.

Yeah, you're right, you know how we call someone who borrows money from loan sharks and loses it all in a day? Big player

I would give an answer to this; won't be bothering.

Did you think there is manipulation in what that happened yesterday as the price of bitcoin increased from $27500 to $30000 and decreased back no quite long to $28500? Try to always know what is going on. There was a rumour yesterday that SEC has approved spot bitcoin ETF was the reason and after people knew it was not true, the market fell back.

No there wasn't a rumour; there was a fake news created.

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[danadc]

I don't think that the manipulation is on their part, I think that the market is very big as you can see that only there is where it is manipulated, I think that the manipulations occur and sometimes we don't even notice, because they do it at a such a high level that they are only seen in the news, and everything related to what they make us believe. Could it be that your theory about the Dex is true, but the truth is I don't see it that way, this goes much further, for My big whales are those that do their part and those that have a lot of money like the institutions, but that's just where I don't see the events going, because there is too much money at stake.

[rhomelmabini]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

I guess that cointelegraph said was true and they just hidden it by now, whoever posted that tweet might have been scolded or worst fired. Manipulation is present anywhere else and what more to just an emerging market? The market reacted simply and what more if that news was indeed true, it could be a parabolic run considering a lot of people are expecting as well that spot Bitcoin ETF especially in the US. I don't think that fake news was to see it as scam, it has long been know that manipulation and volatility around Bitcoin is always present considering it's not regulated fully.

Creating fake news and insider trading is a fraudalent behavior; not entitled to opinions unlike the poster who tried to turn the topic into my own life struggles; I won't be replying that type of posters from now on; If I did I would go as the same level of intelligence and humanity.

And if they were to be investigated for that fraudulent behavior then I'll be happy for that, but what I'm emphasizing is that these large players will continue to manipulate even not in this market. Not gonna comment on that but as I see it, they're just having their own opinions which may totally not matter if I may asked.

[tetaeridanus]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

I guess that cointelegraph said was true and they just hidden it by now, whoever posted that tweet might have been scolded or worst fired. Manipulation is present anywhere else and what more to just an emerging market? The market reacted simply and what more if that news was indeed true, it could be a parabolic run considering a lot of people are expecting as well that spot Bitcoin ETF especially in the US. I don't think that fake news was to see it as scam, it has long been know that manipulation and volatility around Bitcoin is always present considering it's not regulated fully.

Creating fake news and insider trading is a fraudalent behavior; not entitled to opinions unlike the poster who tried to turn the topic into my own life struggles; I won't be replying that type of posters from now on; If I did I would go as the same level of intelligence and humanity.

And if they were to be investigated for that fraudulent behavior then I'll be happy for that, but what I'm emphasizing is that these large players will continue to manipulate even not in this market. Not gonna comment on that but as I see it, they're just having their own opinions which may totally not matter if I may asked.

They don't have opinions they are just keyboard warriors who worth nothing to me. Boasting with their rank and they think they can bully; I won't answer. Both talking offtopic shows their adulthood.

[pixie85]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top.

That's what you get for shorting bitcoin. I don't feel for anybody who shorts it, especially with leverage. The sheep got sheared and I can only hope you weren't among them.

If you were, learn that trading with leverage on crypto casinos like Bitmex is gambling. When you gamble you can expect to lose it all.
What if the ETF was really approved and you had a leveraged short position? You'd get destroyed too!

I believe this is a %100 manipulation

So sue the manipulators who spread the news. I wasn't affected because I don't short bitcoin and I don't trade on leverage and I don't care if it was fake news or not.

I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon.

That's because you're not a bitcoiner but a player who likes to bet short on crypto casinos.
I believe bitcoin will go to 30000 soon and I'm happy with the recent 27-20 thousand move.

[karabiber]

The latest manipulation shows that they will do everything they can to not only drive people away from the market but to make sure they never return. What they forget is that manipulations don't cause price rockets anymore. We can see that people are becoming more aware of manipulation but the innocent masses are still suffering losses. Manipulation has always been the nature of this market.

Now we may see more manipulation to prepare the ground for regulation in these situations. After recent events, Gary Gensler could cite Cointelegraph's fake news and reject all ETF applications as proof of how easy it is to manipulate markets. Unfortunately, he is right. Let's hope this ridiculous incident doesn't bring the market to a dead end.

[ShowOff]

I believe these manipulations made by a group of people or CEXs affect the inflow to the cryptocurrency. Small investors lost a lot of money yesterday on leverage or buying spot at top. I believe this is a %100 manipulation hence the ghost wick and BTC creating a short squeeze of 5K durin a war crisis. I also believe BTC will go back to 26.500 range soon. This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.


Teta Eridanus

Don't blame others for something that carries a high risk of losing money. You must be prepared for all the consequences that occur in the market and may have to be prepared to lose everything after you consider the risks. In fact futures trading should be avoided as much as possible by anyone who cannot accept the risks, not just low-budget investors.

Many people are so greedy about futures trading, it seems like they can make them rich faster. If you really don't want to lose your money, then stay away from futures trading even with low leverage. Start investing even though I may never be worthy of advising you.

[hatshepsut93]

This type of moves create a media view of BTC as a scam and a manipulation device which the cex's or dex's who do manipulation will regret later. These are just my two cents.

No one outside of Bitcoin community is even going to notice a 10% price increase or decrease. The sort of bad reputation of Bitcoin comes from the bull/bear cycles, because some people win big and those who buy at the top lose big. Such unpredictable volatility goes against the principles of investing that investing should be a calculated and known risk. With Bitcoin no one knows when a bull market starts or when it ends.

[Odohu]

Did you think there is manipulation in what that happened yesterday as the price of bitcoin increased from $27500 to $30000 and decreased back no quite long to $28500? Try to always know what is going on. There was a rumour yesterday that SEC has approved spot bitcoin ETF was the reason and after people knew it was not true, the market fell back.

I am also wondering how he concluded that it was a case of manipulation. Perhaps, he does not understand how market react to news (fundamental). Manipulation is actually possible and do happen but the event of yesterday was not what I know manipulation to be; the market was just responding to a supposed positive news.

If it was a manipulation, the price would have dumped so hard, far below where it started the rise. The few times I have seen something that look like market manipulation, it dumped so hard against the initial direction the impulse happened. By this, those who jumped into the initial move will be in deep red with little to no motivation to cut the huge loss.