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October 21, 2023, 02:58:50 PM |
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Yeah, that's what we expect to see people buying and selling but holding as well, the market remain favourable to its holders, as the halving us gradually approaching, new bitcoin will be mined and the value will be added to the supply stream while people will be buying the more and also selling the more because of the high volatile market following every halving, many Institutional holders would also have released to acquire more while the value increases together with the corresponding demands.
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October 21, 2023, 08:23:47 PM |
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Yeah, that's what we expect to see people buying and selling but holding as well, the market remain favourable to its holders, as the halving us gradually approaching, new bitcoin will be mined and the value will be added to the supply stream while people will be buying the more and also selling the more because of the high volatile market following every halving, many Institutional holders would also have released to acquire more while the value increases together with the corresponding demands.
Yes right now, long term bitcoin holders are having the best of times, most especially those that bought Bitcoin at a time when the price of Bitcoin was low, let's say those who bought at the 15k to 25k region, be for the recent price recovery that brought us to this current spot, and so much so bitcoin halving is around the corner with many being optimistic to see a new Bitcoin price regime that will change the face of everything in respective of what price you do buy bitcoin before now, but then we can't still say when the bull market will occur so for that there be a need for us to always attempt to make accurate price predictions and best position to hold bitcoin and to what time frame. I the demand for Bitcoin is on the increase and at that, anyone buying Bitcoin at this point is directly contributing to the current condition and state of the market, and still be on time because until Bitcoin recover back to above 40k price, any price below 40k is still a discount price altogether.
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October 21, 2023, 11:09:39 PM |
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If you are an investor, then you don't want stress and pressure. What others say is right: you should hold long-term. This is a good strategy, especially as we are getting closer to Bitcoin halving, and we know very well that there will be a rise in Bitcoin in the market. So for others out there who want to keep up with the short-term and then you know yourself that your knowledge is not enough, don't expect that you will get a good profit in the short-term because the risk is high.
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October 22, 2023, 12:09:08 AM |
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People are holding for a specific time and for a specific reason. In the end, he wants to keep the Bitcoin to sell it later. Otherwise, he would have sent it to the address proving the burning. There will be a golden opportunity every four years to sell Bitcoin at the highest possible price and buy it at the lowest possible price. Therefore, expect that each holding will sell a percentage during this period and will buy a percentage when The price drops again, and relying on any statistics that tell you that this can be predicted will not give accurate results. The most accurate measure is Publicly-Traded Bitcoin Miners Holdings, which sees it rise in the period -6 months before halving and +6 months after. Last cycle
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October 22, 2023, 11:54:58 PM |
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If people are not selling 76% of bitcoin that are in circulation, it means people are holding it and you know what this could mean for the next halving and the approval of spot bitcoin ETF by the US SEC.
This doesn't affect the chances of getting approval for ETFs. And as for the price, we also need high demand, not just low supply by people refusing to sell. The price won't be moving much if the demand is even lower than the offered supply. People like to quote that only a small fraction of global population owns Bitcoin, so there's a huge potential for new adopters, but it's also true that a lot of people have already heard about Bitcoin and are not interested. And there's no reasons to think that suddenly the masses would change their mind.
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Give a figure like that and I can't understand it, because of that 76% many do not have them anymore because what they have done is lose the private keys, this means that the btc that were under their power are no longer under their power, etnones me I think that when we are thinking about how much or little we can have worldwide, those BTC should no longer be counted, but that makes the price go up more because we have to see how much it is being valued in those who have bitcoin , I am a person who would like to have bitcoin but I have not been able to Collect 1, because the people who have bitcoin in the future will be the ones who have their future assured , is what I think.
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October 23, 2023, 04:25:41 AM |
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Just to balance the potential over-bullishness, these "long-term investors" can just as easily dump their holdings at any time they want. Not because they're currently holding, doesn't automatically mean they're waiting for new all-time highs.
Other than that, people who self-custody their bitcoins do not have an influence on the price, as the OP seems to suggest, because the price of Bitcoin is calculated from buy and sell orders on exchanges. To influence the price, one way would be to deposit those Bitcoins on the exchanges and place high sell orders (at $100K, $200K or whatever one's target is) but no one does that, as usual, because it means losing control of your Bitcoin with your private keys.
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October 23, 2023, 01:42:20 PM |
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I think we should focus on market sentiment. There are no good/perfect news. Bitcoin etf thing was fake. There is not much reason to start another Bitcoin bull market. Patient holders are not bad thing for sure but its influence on price can be quick and easily finished. For example we saw Bitcoin hitting 30k, but there its volatile. I am only planning to return if price hits around 35k. That would confirm at least mid term bull trend.
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October 23, 2023, 03:01:56 PM |
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Most probably those hodler bought their Bitcoin at a cheaper price and they are just waiting for the next bull run before taking profit. This could be a good study about Bitcoin adaption as well and I’m also part of it since most of my holdings are with Bitcoin right now. The next hull market will be a big thing, let’s hope that whales will not take profit at the early part of the bull market so we can still see the real peak with Bitcoin.
To accumulate that much I don't think they did all of that when the price was going down or when the price was down, pretty sure that some big company out there are buying no matter what the price is because as you've said, they're waiting for the bullrun and while they're waiting, they might as well continue accumulating no matter what the price is and in regards to whales taking profit early, the best thing that you can do about this is to take the profit when you have the feeling that the whales are going to make waves or a better option would be that you should have a certain price where no matter what, that's where you're going to sell all your bitcoins and then hope that it's the price right when bitcoin's about to go down again to do some correction.
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October 23, 2023, 07:06:05 PM |
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Most probably those hodler bought their Bitcoin at a cheaper price and they are just waiting for the next bull run before taking profit. This could be a good study about Bitcoin adaption as well and I’m also part of it since most of my holdings are with Bitcoin right now. The next hull market will be a big thing, let’s hope that whales will not take profit at the early part of the bull market so we can still see the real peak with Bitcoin.
To accumulate that much I don't think they did all of that when the price was going down or when the price was down, pretty sure that some big company out there are buying no matter what the price is because as you've said, they're waiting for the bullrun and while they're waiting, they might as well continue accumulating no matter what the price is and in regards to whales taking profit early, the best thing that you can do about this is to take the profit when you have the feeling that the whales are going to make waves or a better option would be that you should have a certain price where no matter what, that's where you're going to sell all your bitcoins and then hope that it's the price right when bitcoin's about to go down again to do some correction. A big institution has its own balance sheet and yearly report about it. So if most of them are buying bitcoin gradually then some of their actions have already been revealed by the media. There are people who have the wealth to accumulate a large chunk of bitcoin in the long run. This can be some wealthy Arabs, some drug mafia, some corrupt politicians and even some government officials who are buying bitcoin secretly.
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October 23, 2023, 07:15:19 PM |
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Most probably those hodler bought their Bitcoin at a cheaper price and they are just waiting for the next bull run before taking profit. This could be a good study about Bitcoin adaption as well and I’m also part of it since most of my holdings are with Bitcoin right now. The next hull market will be a big thing, let’s hope that whales will not take profit at the early part of the bull market so we can still see the real peak with Bitcoin.
To accumulate that much I don't think they did all of that when the price was going down or when the price was down, pretty sure that some big company out there are buying no matter what the price is because as you've said, they're waiting for the bullrun and while they're waiting, they might as well continue accumulating no matter what the price is and in regards to whales taking profit early, the best thing that you can do about this is to take the profit when you have the feeling that the whales are going to make waves or a better option would be that you should have a certain price where no matter what, that's where you're going to sell all your bitcoins and then hope that it's the price right when bitcoin's about to go down again to do some correction. And the reason for this is that their mentality is completely different, a retail investor is worried about whether their investment does well or not on the short term as they have invested a great deal of their money on this market, while the whales can invest a fortune and they still have a lot of money to spare, so this allows them to not care too much about the price or how long they will need to hold their coins as they know that once the bull market arrives they will make so much money that nothing else will matter.
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October 23, 2023, 07:55:18 PM |
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Yes, the word “HODL” will be a trend and will be the most used word during the coming months before the halving. Most people are optimistic about a significant rise in the price of Bitcoin after the halving, so most of them will not sell their Bitcoin at the present time. This will definitely boost the price.
It is true that all of these are just predictions for the future, but their impact will begin to become clearer and clearer during the coming period, and this magic word will play a major role in achieving these expectations. So yeah the golden advice for everyone is to just “HODL”.
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October 23, 2023, 10:23:44 PM |
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I think we should focus on market sentiment. There are no good/perfect news. Bitcoin etf thing was fake. There is not much reason to start another Bitcoin bull market. Patient holders are not bad thing for sure but its influence on price can be quick and easily finished.
The ones that has been published by Cointelegraph about the Bitcoin ETF was fake but there have been applications already and waiting for them to get some approval at the perfect time. It's true that there are no perfect news either good or bad that affects the market sentiment. Those that have been patient all over the time and understands the importance of this attitude towards the market won't get easily get triggered by any of these news because we've been there and done that before. One wrong emotion will tend to do a wrong move. For example we saw Bitcoin hitting 30k, but there its volatile. I am only planning to return if price hits around 35k. That would confirm at least mid term bull trend.
Return? You've left the market or you've sold already your holdings? I know people like you that are waiting for some push before they go back and these are the people that have sold majority of their Bitcoin and that's the move that they're waiting for because they find the market so sluggish and uninteresting when it's laggard.
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This data has already started pricing in the Bitcoin market looking at the sudden surge in price we got lately. Just today Bitcoin had a tremendous price increase that saw the price smash the strong $31k resistance level drop the price more than 3 times on getting to that level and go as far as touching $33.7k from the $28k price level, making it roughly a six thousand-dollar increase in the price of Bitcoin. The momentum is back and Volatility has increased hugely.
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seems like so many whales are faithful with bitcoin but some people concern here in regard of some people that lose access to their bitcoin therefore increasing the amount of bitcoin never moving is also valid point. not to mention the fact that some people might not care about some bitcoin, a minimal amount, that still stuck in their wallet and don't bother with it. that could accumulate to massive amount but I guess saying that this gonna affect massively on percentage of that 76% is a stretch. I'm sure its mainly because many people are just faithful with bitcoin and know that its best investment ever thats why they choose to hold. this could reflect the fact that maybe bullrun is near, but of course the correlation isn't strong.
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This data has already started pricing in the Bitcoin market looking at the sudden surge in price we got lately. Just today Bitcoin had a tremendous price increase that saw the price smash the strong $31k resistance level drop the price more than 3 times on getting to that level and go as far as touching $33.7k from the $28k price level, making it roughly a six thousand-dollar increase in the price of Bitcoin. The momentum is back and Volatility has increased hugely.
This are the best time to hold. The reason for the latest price surge is because of bitcoin spot ETF hype. Let us see what would happen, but I think bitcoin is still bullish right now. Only what that is needed is time, United States SEC will approve bitcoin ETF and the price would likely go higher. And according to what dansus021 just posted, the exchange outflow has increased and that only means people are not ready to sell but hold instead.
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October 24, 2023, 09:12:28 AM |
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This are the best time to hold. The reason for the latest price surge is because of bitcoin spot ETF hype. Let us see what would happen, but I think bitcoin is still bullish right now. Only what that is needed is time, United States SEC will approve bitcoin ETF and the price would likely go higher. And according to what dansus021 just posted, the exchange outflow has increased and that only means people are not ready to sell but hold instead.
The trend of increasing prices this month is quite good. You are right, this cannot be separated from the news that the SEC will approve a spot bitcoin ETF and perhaps because of other events that I don't know about, but the hype spiked in prices that had already reached $35K and are now at $34,152. Of course, what is needed now is patience because time will continue to move forward. The increased exchange outflow posted by dansus21 is 2021 data. The Coindesk article was updated March 6, 2023 at 22:34. The picture was published in 2021 and now it is 2023. Bitcoin owners who withdraw some of their assets on the exchange are a better thing than leaving them stored on the exchange for years. So, time will determine when we will experience the next highest price. I predict that will happen in 2024.
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October 24, 2023, 09:55:24 AM |
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This are the best time to hold. The reason for the latest price surge is because of bitcoin spot ETF hype. Let us see what would happen, but I think bitcoin is still bullish right now. Only what that is needed is time, United States SEC will approve bitcoin ETF and the price would likely go higher. And according to what dansus021 just posted, the exchange outflow has increased and that only means people are not ready to sell but hold instead.
Yes, HODL is something we must continue to do at this time, especially since the price of bitcoin has now reached $32k. Let's hope this increase continues until $35k and take a break for a bit. I'm optimistic that the SEC will approve a bitcoin ETF and as you said, that could push the price higher than it is now.
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October 24, 2023, 02:15:30 PM |
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Sometimes slot machines are Double-edged swords, because I have seen many people saying that with little money in a casino you can win a lot of money? The Answer is yes , yes it can because basically when a person can put some money in their games, it can make a Difference in that, if a person focuses on what they can achieve just by using good money in the slots, but this is It is a double-edged Sword, because when a person indulges in the game of trickery, he knows very well that he is in the hands of pure luck, whether good or Bad, a player will appeal to good luck to do Something like a macro profit, So in this Order of ideas we can do many things, for example start playing with very little money, (as long as the trams or the game allows it, if so then play with the minimum and only euse search, so when we do Something like for example trying to win free spins is what would give us the extra to start with a good Streak, Something that is very difficult to do.
People who put their faith in lucky hedges are Waiting for the good Streak, the one that makes you multiply the little balance you have in a big profit, that makes you withdraw that money that is so needed, however when we zoom in a little on things, we know that the big Players have spent a lot of money in the scams, nor are they able to Account for how much they have lost, or how much they have invested in the scams, it is something that costs a lot to say but it is something that is present in each of the experiences of them, but of course there may also be the Possibility that a Newbie makes a movie with 10 or 20usd and that multiplies to $2k which would be something excellent, then as the game is played it would be like that, it would be something ideal, but this type of Things don't happen all at once, those I have seen who win a lot of money are because they have Obviously lost a lot.
If you play slots, you will need a lot of luck to win a lot of money because slot games are luck based so you really need luck. No one knows when your luck will come and you can only keep playing slots until your luck really comes to help you win. But it's also not worth doing, considering that luck cannot be predicted when it will come. Even if you play for a long time, it doesn't guarantee that your luck will come, especially if you increase the number of bets because that will trigger bigger losses and many people can't accept it. Therefore, if you play slots, you only need to use it as entertainment and don't chase wins because it is clearly difficult to get. So determine the amount of bet you want, not too much so that you don't lose a lot of money if you lose. Gamblers can double their money in gambling, but they will not always be able to win and get a lot of money. But therein lies the temptation of gambling that will always make gamblers keep coming back endlessly because they want their big win just by betting a small bet amount. Only people with luck can get it while unlucky people will keep trying endlessly. And if you are wise, you will not try hard to get that big luck but will only play enough slots and wait for luck to come at the right time. Many people have experienced big losses in slot games so you don't need to follow them to use big money or increase the bet amount. Of course, things are like that when it comes to how to bet on slots, for me it is an art to be able to do it, because I have seen many people who say that slot machines don't do so well, and this can trigger many things, first of all, they may feel bad. Due to the amount of money they lose, they can surely trigger some ways in which humans can fall into addiction when there is no necessary control of the money, it is something common that basically we must know how to deduce so that we are not wrong as we should bet on a slot because it is very likely that if you indulge too much with the slot, you can lose a lot of money, there are people who usually play the slots only for little money, and I don't blame them, it is a very good strategy, for me it is the best, as I have said in many threads, for me these slots are used to relax, I'm not looking to win, I'm looking to relax and get the hang of it better, to de-stress, I may be very stressed but if I start playing in slots, it happens to me, but for me the trick doesn't It is not about winning, nor about seeking profits, my trick is purely for fun, as I like their music, their way of doing things, well I enjoy it, what I do is basically put myself in the game and play until I spend my money, of course I have to play with 10usd in each game, sometimes I play once a week or 2. There are people that I have seen who put up to 500usd in the slot machine and lose everything, the truth is that it is something that gives me a lot of pain, I don't know how they do it or how they play but if they lose everything and suddenly rapadia and sporadically they raise the bets and They can have many things that make mistakes, for this reason I will always prefer slots not to play to win money, but for fun, as I have said, I see tagamonedas as a diverse service where you must be very careful, That's why it's like a game for Adults, because any bad movie doesn't involve money and that's delicate.
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